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The Thursday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We are racked, we are stacked. We got a lot of news to discuss with all of you and we've got some great guests lined up to Sean Duffy, Transportation Secretary and Congressman Steve Scalise in the second hour, much to discuss with them. So make sure you stick around for that. But big news of the day, first and foremost, the DC January 6th pipe bomber allegedly this is the guy. Alleged pipe bomber has been arrested. We will dive into this, a five years long investigation. We will discuss this shortly. We also have top military officials up on Capitol Hill. They are briefing members of Congress. It's closed doors. They're briefing members of Congress though, on the strikes on narco boats in the Caribbean, those Venezuelan narco boats. We've also got Trump changing the name of the Institute of Peace. That's a less, less intense story. We can get to that in a bit. And Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania has some choice words for Kamala Harris. We shall discuss all of this and more and of course get you to weigh in with your calls and talk back. So line those up now. Get those going. Clay, the big news today here is the we'll play this news bite here. This is Fox News correspondent David Spunt on the alleged pipe bombers arrest play cut one we don't know the suspect's.
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Name or anything about this person other than the fact this is a male that was living in Northern Virginia arrested at some point with within the last.
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90 minutes now in federal custody.
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The suspect, as I said, wore a face mask, hooded sweatshirt, glasses, gloves. But using FBI technology, agents told the public the suspect they believe is around 5 foot 7 inches. Over the past four years, agents visited 1200 homes and businesses, conducted more than 1000 interviews, reviewed approximately 39,000 video files, went through 600 tips.
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It's notable the reward bill in Dana.
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Was half a million dollars.
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Clay, the FBI is going to be holding a press conference soon on this and we will get a whole lot more details. But there are some additional details swirling from different news sources right now. This, it feels like this is, well, let's just say a lot of a lot of FBI and law enforcement credibility is at stake here on this arrest because it took them five years to you'd like to think if this is the arrest they're making, they've got the guy.
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But we'll see.
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Yeah, look, I was just on Fox News. I was going to talk about a variety of other topics. They're going to have a news conference on this. And I ended up talking about this case which has captivated many different people out there. In fact, maybe we can reach out to producer Ali, to Julie Kelly, who has my experience been covering this really, really well over the last five years, who Was the pipe bomber. What was the motivation here? Young guy, right? Buck, the reports are that this individual who was arrested is 30 now, which would have made him 25 years old five years ago. And there are reports if you watch, they are showing the raid as it is occurring from a helicopter shot I would imagine above Woodbridge, Virginia. You worked in Northern Virginia for a while. Woodbridge is a pretty, correct me if I'm wrong, pretty high end ish area. And this home, again, it's on a cul de sac. Looks like there are reports that he may have been this individual living at his parents home but looks to be fairly high end in nature. In other words, we don't know if he was living there at the time that this incident would have happened. But I look this, this to me looks like a million plus home. And, and you definitely wonder again what were the motivations of this guy and hopefully do they have the right guy. I would also mention this, and I said this on Fox News just a few minutes ago. Those of you who were listening last week, did we have Cash Patel on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. Right, exactly. Basically eight days ago if I remember correctly. And we're producer Greg is working to pull the audio. Cash Patel said basically, hey, buckle up, we got a couple of things that we're working on that I expect are going to be occurring imminently. This, for many people, this case in particular, and I think he probably was hinting that this, this case had heated up and he thought that something was coming in an imminent nature. This case for many people out there has been an obsession. I mean it has been something that, you know, there are people out there who have spent inordinate amounts of time. I'm talking about media, I'm talking about, you know, just people on social media accounts. This, this pipe bomb connection to Jan 6th and what exactly happened and who did it and what their motivations are has been a feverish discussion point for five years now. I haven't, we haven't gotten into it a ton on this show but it has been, there is a, there is a subset of the world out there that has been very, very focused on this.
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Well, it was also very apparent, I think Clay, that there was an absolute spare no expense, all out mobilization of the FBI under Biden. Not really by Biden, he allowed it, but by the people that were handpicked by the Democrat apparatus to run things. That there was this. We'll do anything to get anybody who was involved in January 6, even people that were entirely nonviolent. We're going to send the FBI after them. We're going to track them down, we're going to use facial recognition, we're going to send a tactical team into their home to make that arrest at 5:30 in the morning to scare everybody in their home and in the neighborhood. But they couldn't find the guy that was leaving pipe bombs out that they couldn't find that guy.
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I mean this is, yeah, that's the, that's the, that's the point that has just a lot of people have said wait a minute, what's going on here?
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You're, you're able to devote the resources and time to track down somebody who walked into the Capitol for less than a minute and did, did nothing other than that, but you weren't able to find this guy. Now I know people say well, oh, but it's so hard given all the resources they had, they had video of this individual. Maybe if they hadn't, My, my take here, Clay, would be maybe if they hadn't been so hell bent on tracking down everybody who was involved in even the most Minor Way on January 6, the Biden FBI might have been able to find. Ah, but did they want to find this individual? I know that is the other question that many people, were they really that interested in finding this person? Is the term false flag something that is going to be used again in the near future? I mean there's a lot of stuff that this all brings together. I don't want to get too far ahead of any of it. Even though this has been discussed for five years, Clay, because I think the FBI press conference that's coming up here is going to tell us a lot. But you know, what's the, I mean what would be the motive, the motivation of this individual would have been. Now you're talking about probably a crazy person at some level because you're leaving a pipe bomb public in our nation's capital. So we're, you're already at a disadvantage because you're trying to think like a crazy when you're not crazy. But what was the, what would be the idea here? You know what, what would be the motivation?
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It seems unlikely that there is, look, first of all, it could just be pure anarchy, right? You know, it's going to be a chaotic scene and you are just an anarchist, I think psychologically. And there's probably some people who are going to be living at home like what are you talking about? If you're 30 in a general rule, if you are 30 and you still live in mom and dad's house. Maybe you haven't launched in a way that maybe mom and dad would have hoped. Maybe there are some extenuating circumstances there. We don't know that he's been living there full time. But I think most people when you're 30, if you said hey what is your ideal life path? And you ask people when they're 20, I don't think it would be I'll still be living in my bedroom with mom and dad. My point on that is when I hear 30 year old guy, 30 year old guy who's living at home with his mom and dad, I think Internet nerd, I think someone who is. Is this wrong? I mean little harsh.
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A little Clay's being a little harsh here. Okay. You know, some people just like to.
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Be close to family. I 30, 30 years old dude. Like you're going out to Applebee's and you're like trying to pick up a girl and she's like where are we going to go? And you're like back to my bedroom at my mom and dad's. There's a little bit of a failure to launch there if you're 30 and you're still living at home. And so when I hear by the way, probably going to get deluged now with 30 year olds who live at home. But when I hear 30 year old who lives at home, alleged pipe bomber, I think somebody who is steeped in Internet world because they're, you know, the, that is what comes to mind with me.
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I think someone you're thinking left wing because this is the night before January 6th. This, this seems to be because to me it's either left wing anarchist, burn it all down again. I'm surmising. This is analysis. This is not reporting. Ok. We're not saying this is fact. We're going to find out a lot more from the FBI. But if someone is asking for my analysis or rather I am offering it because that is what we are paid to do here. Often it's either left wing anarchist Clay from the, from the malcontent antifa school of just I want to blow things up right before, right before the you know, January 6th festivities. Or, or I want to do something. This guy wants to do something because he wants it to be blamed on pro Trump forces. Right.
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Those are really the, that's my takeaway. There's no, let's just put it this way. And again we're trying to read into the tea leaves here. Is there anything that would benefit Democrats from like the Democrat perspective from bombs going off on January 6th. I think most people would say no, right? Like there's nothing.
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And this is in advance of the riots to be, to everything that happened, to be clear. So it's not like, oh, add to that and it'll look even worse.
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By the way, here's the cut. Cash was on with us last week, November 26th. This is the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. Cut 30. He kind of hinted that something like this might have been coming. Some of you may remind it. Producer Greg pulled it. Let's listen to that. Cut 30.
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You're right. We've had a historic year. We've taken down twice as many violent offenders as last year alone, seized more fentanyl than ever before, struck a deal.
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With China to shut off fentanyl precursors.
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Arrested more than 490% increase in 764 extremists, those attempting to and violating our children's rights. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. This FBI is on fire. And Clay and Buck, we're not stopping.
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Wait till you see what we got.
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Coming up in another week or two, okay?
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Wait till you see what we got coming up in another week or two. I think Buck, he probably had a pretty good sense that they were getting close on the pipe bomber.
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I think the FBI director knew something about something. Knew something about something. Also wanted to come on the show right before Thanksgiving, which, you know, it's not usually when you'd have a guest of that stature necessarily because we haven't had him on in, in months. So, yeah, I think he, I think he knew something was coming. That's a fair bet.
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What time do we know what time the, the press conference is scheduled? Producer, producers, we'll dive into. We'll dive into that and maybe carry it live because again, we're trying to paint the picture of what the motivation of this guy might have been.
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Especially, as we have seen, I think it's fair to say, a long list of left wing political violence that has all kind of come together in the. I know everybody wants to focus on what happened at the Capitol on January 6th. But in terms of actual different strings of violent murders and attempted murders, there has been far more, I think, left wing violence in the last several years than there has been right wing violence. And we always say, we don't want any of you to be violent. We want you to be happy. We want you to be happy warriors. But the motivations here are going to be significant. It's the lead story. Even MSNBC and CNN are now covering this as the lead story in America right now.
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Pressure is coming down.
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Travis Buck Sexton show. By the way, Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy gonna join us at 1 and Steve Scalise from the, what is he, the whip? The House House majority leader, second in command to the speaker. He will join us at 1:30 in the next hour. But major breaking news and arrest of the alleged pipe bomber January 6th in Washington, D.C. 32 years old is the latest update. I have seen reports that they were able to eventually track him based on some of the documents that some of the materials that he purchased that were used to make this pipe bomb. But again, there's going to be a press conference in the near future. We should also update. Maybe we can dive into this a little bit on the backside, Buck. The Venezuela boat discussion that we had a lot of discussion about on this program, the second strike and whether there were survivors. The admiral involved in that strike has reportedly testified that there were two people still alive on the boat, that they were trying to salvage the drugs and potentially continue the mission that the first strike was designed to stop. So.
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Some dedicated drug runners.
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I gotta say much of the reporting here, and there's evidently video to support this has suggested that that was not the case. But the testimony, again under oath from the admiral. We will see what exactly is said as that continues. But this idea that there was a significant war crime, it seems like the Washington Post may have, go figure, whiffed to a certain degree on this story based on the testimony that is going on. Julie Kelly, by the way, will join us, but not till 2:30. That's good. A couple of hours from now. She has been covering this as aggressively, just about as anyone out there, Buck. And there was a recent story where they thought they had found the pipe bomber, a media story ended up not being true. She weighed in a lot on that as well. So by 2:30, that's a couple of hours from now, I would think we will have much more information about the motivations and the individual who was arrested here. So make sure that you stay tuned to us because that is going to be intriguing to see exactly how all of that is shaking out. Want to tell you, Buck, as he gave up his man card has been talking about how he loves to cuddle with blankets to cover his toes on.
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No, let's be fair. He was taken away by the truckers. The truckers took away my man card for a day.
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Well, I thought it was funny when you were like I'm going to go buy A bunch of guns. It feels like a response to, to blanket gate. Buck's going to be buying a bunch of guns. But this is 100% true. Thanksgiving week producer Ally just came back. She's been out with her family. She said I was, I was that cozy or blanket. It's unbelievable. She didn't even know. I said, my sister used this with our, at our house on Thanksgiving. She covered herself up. It was so comfortable that she pulled out her phone, went on Amazon and bought the exact same blanket without even knowing there was a code she could have used if she went to Cozy Earth for the best possible blankets, the most comfortable blankets and sheets on the planet. Cozyearth.com C O Z Y Earth. You get 40% off everything right now if you use my name. Clay. I had to tell my sister. I was like, you didn't even use the code. She didn't know. So, you know, cozy earth.com you're going to love it. Go check out these blankets. Most comfortable blankets on the planet. Buck loves them. Cozy Earth.com code clay. 40% off.
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All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. So we've got much to discuss, my friends, including what's going on on Capitol Hill here with the Venezuela boat strikes. Now, we're going to have more for you shortly on the FBI arrest situation of the pipe bomber. We're following that story as closely as we can. Everyone's essentially in wait and see mode until this FBI press conference, which is going to be in the next hour. We also have Secretary of Transportation Duffy on and we're looking forward to that conversation. So we got a lot. And I think we have Steve Scalise next hour, House Majority Leader Scalise. So we got, we got a lot going on. We can talk to him about the pipe bomber for sure as well as you remember Steve Scalise.
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Somebody who knows left wing political violence all too well as he had to fight for his life after he was shot by a maniac at a baseball field in Alexandria, Virginia, who was screaming, this is for.
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Health care. Right. And we all remember that. This is for health care. And he's shooting at people who are defenseless after.
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Also, Buck remember asking, are those Republicans? Are Democrats? Like, because they were just playing baseball. You didn't know who, you know, they were warming up on a field. It wasn't like you could really tell who they were.
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Yes, exactly. So that's where we are on, on that story. We're waiting to hear more from the FBI, but we'll speak to Steve Scalise about that. In the meantime, you know that this has become now the primary attack on the administration. This, all the different anti Trump news outlets, their, their main thing that they are covering right now is this. In fact, it even overshadowed, you know, there was some Epstein stuff that was released. Nothing, some photos. You see this. Nobody even really paid very much attention to it in the media. It wasn't anything of particular interest, be honest. From what I saw. There's a lot more, I think that's coming out. But this is the story right now. So here is what is, what is at issue. As we have discussed, I believe in Clay has believed all along here, based upon the facts as presented to us, that Secretary Hegseth and those below him in the chain of command acted lawfully. Ok. But there is also an understanding here that there is a situation in which it is possible that you can be in a situation where you cannot just like finish off the survivors of a strike. That is also a thing. I think both sides have agreed on that and I think that's important because I see some people saying, oh, if they were, you know, clinging to wreckage and they were knocked out unconscious, we could just mow them down. No, but if they were still in the fight, meaning if they were still actively communicating with the drug cartels and trying to salvage the drugs and trying to basically continue the mission. It is what it is. And then you Continue on. Here's ABC's Martha Raddatz on this play. She's obviously a Trump hater, but you know, this is what she said. Play three tonight, new information.
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According to a source familiar with the incident, the two survivors climbed back onto the boat after the initial strike.
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They were believed to be potentially in.
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Communication with others and salvaging some of the drugs. Because of that, it was determined they were still in the fight and valid targets. A JAG officer was also giving legal advice. So again, David, that video will be key and Admiral Bradley will be on.
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The hill tomorrow behind closed doors.
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So they have released the video. And if, as has been reported there, that is true, this story is going to vanish. So we'll see. You know, there may be some dispute about what in the fight still looked alike. And again, how high quality is the video version of this? But this would seem to be a pretty clear validation of the decision that was made as well as legal, having been there and signed off as, you know, watching the, the incident saying, yes, they're still enemy combatants, yes, you can take this action. Um, that seems to me to be kind of an Open and shut case. So we will see whether this starts to vanish. What I would say is, in the new studio that I have here, buck the ability to drive narrative on CNN or msnbc, you can kind of judge whether they think they got something. They're already pulling back on their coverage of this strike. Now that the video's out there, now that more details are being released, it feels to me like the Washington Post story over promised the video has under delivered what they said it would and we're on to whatever the next controversy is inside of the Trump administration.
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I think you said this earlier in the week, and I believe it was an astute, astute observation that this is turning into a little bit of a Kilmar Abrego Garcia situation for them, where the Democrats, to people who are paying attention, the Democrats are going to the mat in order to take the side on these issues. I know they would say of like the Geneva Conventions and human rights, but of the drug cartels, yes. Which are killing. Last year, I think it was like 80, 90,000.
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That's right.
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But, but close. Something approaching 100. The worst years have been in the low hundred thousand range. It's far too many people. And I also think it's important to remember it's not just the people who die. Lives are shattered just by the addiction to fentanyl. Think about the families that are destroyed. Think about the criminality, the criminal enterprises.
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The drug turf wars that happen. We look at that number, it's like looking at murders in a city. You know, the murders give you a sense, but don't cover the whole totality of, oh, this city has far too many assaults and rapes and robberies and everything else going on. The drug war isn't just about overdoses, although that's the most, you know, poignant and, and, and destructive aspect of it. There's a whole lot of other secondary effects that are horrible and people are tired of it. And my point here, Clay, is that once again, you have Democrats who are like, hold on, we need to make sure it's not so hard for the cartels to bring the drugs into America. That's you're being too harsh with the cartels. And a lot of Americans are saying, yeah, I don't know about that.
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Who you pick as your face of any argument is huge. And again, I said the, you know, the plaintiff, the name plaintiff in a case is always a huge part. For anybody out there that files a lawsuit, class action, they try to find the most sympathetic plaintiff out there, the one that is going to pull at the heartstrings that is going to make people say, wait a minute, are we really doing the right thing here? And we told you, part of the, the deportation of illegal immigrants. They are going to focus on the mom, the little girl, the, the, the heartstring issues. But then they blew it. Then they were like, hey, actually, do you know how aggressive this thing is? Kilmar Abreu Garcia, a human trafficking, drug smuggling illegal who his wife had to call the police on because he was allegedly beating her up. He's being forced out of the country. And people are like, yeah, okay. And it didn't really land. And now Democrats are going to make the face of Trump's combat. Combating of illegal drugs coming into the country. A couple of narco terrorists in Venezuela who we were too mean to. There's a tough sell, remember? Or was it Linda who called in that?
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Linda's like, were they, were they floating around with little floaties, like in a pool? Blow them up, take them out, I don't care.
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He's like, deep drag on the.
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Oh, they're doing a backstroke. I saw a backstroke there. Another missile, another missile.
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Wax them and everybody. I don't even think anybody came. Like, everybody was. In Linda's defense, we got loaded. I don't think we should go track down some of those talk backs. But it looks like Linda's being vindicated here. Wax.
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I gotta say, we did. I did not get. I did not see. And we. This is the great thing, you guys. You're all a part of the conversation. Whenever you send in a talk back, an email, or you even just talk to producer Greg if you want to get on live, because that all gets. Clay and I are talking about in the breaks. We read it, we see it. I don't think I saw anybody who was calling out Linda like, you know what I'm saying? Nobody was like, how dare she? A lot of people are like, I'm kind of with Linda.
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Yeah. No, I think it is really very funny in many ways that the things that they think are going to rally their base actually often rally the Trump base instead. And part of it is just not understanding basic narrative. And I've talked about this for a long time. If you are a student of history, this is obviously, what, 60, 70 years ago now? But they waited on the Montgomery bus boycotts until they had the right face of the Montgomery bus boycotts, which was Rosa Parks. If, if you go back and study that era, they actually arrested a young single mother who refused to give up her seat before Rosa Parks did it. And the civil rights leaders, including Martin Luther King Jr. Said, no, no, no. The single mom who is unmarried is not the right face of the bus boycott. We want Rosa Parks to be the face of this boycott. So she wasn't even the first who refused to give up her seat. That turned into the beginnings of the civil rights movement in the South. Back in Montgomery, Alabama, in the day, they looked at it and they were waiting for what they thought was the most sympathetic plaintiff, the best face of their. Of their argument that they could find. And I just. I look at some of this stuff, and. And I just say, who is making these decisions on messaging for the Democrat Party? They're really just poor at even making the cases that they're trying to make.
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And sometimes you just gotta bring in somebody. Like, Linda was going to say, light them up. Light them up. That's it. I've had enough of these clowns. You know, this is also. We sleep soundly at night. We sleep soundly at night because Linda stands on that wall smoking that stogie, saying, enough's enough.
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Colonel Linda Jessup out there. We talked about this before. Who's tougher? Who's tougher in your house in discipline, you or your wife? Oh, it's not.
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B
It's not even. Not even close. It's the carry his way. And this is also dealing well, like, with anyone who's trying to play any funny business with us. Like a contractor or something comes up, I just kind of want to always pull them aside, be like, look, you really want to deal with me?
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Yeah.
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B
You don't. You don't want me to bring.
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C
You don't care. You. I am the softy in this house. If you. You do not want Laura as the. On the wall making decisions. You don't want to be a problem.
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B
I'm the hostage negotiator.
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C
Carrie.
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B
Carrie is the CT team that goes in with flashbangs. Like, it's just a different deal. You want to deal with me?
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C
If you missed Linda, who people love, and Linda may be listening right now. Linda, we will play what she said, as she is now being vindicated. But she was fine. Even, you know, like. Like Buck said, these guys could have been, you know, with floating around on noodles with. With nothing left. She's like, just wax them. But we'll have some fun. We'll play that when we come back. All right, look.
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This is where Mindset comes in.
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Someone will be eliminated.
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Pressure is coming down.
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This is Trainer Games.
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Watch it on prime video starting January 8th.
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Shh.
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Duty, Tetris, Trackmania, Tony hawk, Pro Skater.
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34 and Tekken 8. Season 0 of the Global Gaming League is live streaming on YouTube and Twitch. Head over to globalgamingleague.com.
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B
And we're talking narco boats here and the explosions thereof. And just a reminder because we've been referring, we love Linda, by the way, one of our esteemed and wonderful listeners. We had some fun with her yesterday and I think a lot of people really enjoy her perspective. Here she is. This was our caller 32. Who cares.
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About the two guys in the water? They were bad guys.
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Light them up.
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She's also also 31. Linda is going to be elected. I don't remember what state Linda's in, but she's about to be elected statewide. There. Cut 31 as well. Light him up. Let me play devil's advocate here. If, if it were to be reported and confirmed that the narco terrorists, which I agree are bad guys, were floating in the water and we ordered a helicopter to go in and to mow them down as they floated in the water, you wouldn't have an issue with that?
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A
I wouldn't have an issue with that at all.
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She's ready to dunk their heads under the water herself.
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C
Yeah. Linda would jump out. Yeah. And hold them under the water. Let them till they stop kicking.
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B
She wants to be a spotter for SEAL Team 6. Who knew?
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C
Here we go.
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We got podcast listener Josh Ee Play it. Hey, yeah, I'm with Linda.
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C
I am with Linda. The bad guys need to be dealt with. And this is coming from somebody who.
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Has more felonies than.
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Buck Sexton is years old.
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I got caught up on drugs and.
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C
Went around, stole a bunch of stuff.
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A
So they got like 20 charges on.
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C
Me at one time. But, yeah, I'm with Linda. What a pivot. What a pivot on that. Talk back. Halfway through, he's all in on Linda. 20 felony charges. He went away for a while. That, that. I, I did not see that. That's a 20 second talk back. That was a. That was a whole life story there.
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B
Packed a lot. He packed a lot in there. I got to give him full credit. Angela in Pennsylvania wants to talk to us. What's going on? Angela?
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A
Hi there. The real victims are all the kids that are sitting in the foster care system because their parents are addicted or their parents are dead.
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B
Or we can go ahead and talk.
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A
About the kids that die or almost die because they ingest the illegal drugs that their parents take, or the kids that die because their parents overdose and die, and the kids die because they don't have care and they're not found in time.
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B
Angela, look, I totally, I totally agree with you. And that's why I was saying we talk about overdose deaths, but the overdose deaths are that, that then there's ripple effects off of each one of those deaths that devastates a family, a community, a city, in our case, a country. So once you start to really calculate all of this, we do need a real war on drugs.
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C
Thank you for the call, Angela. That's important. I also always want to point this out because I have heard from several parents who have come up and talked to me about this. So many of the people. You said 80, 90,000, which is an unbelievable number. I mean, that's five times as many people basically as get murdered. That's over half. Twice as many people as die in traffic accidents every year. Contextualizing it. First of all, many of them are relatively young, so they have a lot of lives, years of life left. Second, and this is super important, 80,000.
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B
By the way, is the 80,391 in 2024. Keep going.
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C
Many of them are being poisoned because they are not intending to be taking the drug. Even that kills them. One of the devastating things about fentanyl in particular, if you talk to people is you can think. And this is why you need to talk to all your kids and your grandkids. You can think you're using a Quote, unquote, party drug, right? You can think you're using cocaine. You can think you're using, like, you.
- [44:41]
B
Could think you're clay. You could think you're using something made by Pfizer. Like, I don't know who makes Xanax or whatever, which is the brand name. You can think you're taking a prescription Benzo.
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C
And so these kids, and I say kids, they're young people, overwhelmingly, they aren't even consenting to use the drug that kills them. They don't know because they are being poisoned. And so we talk about overdoses, and a lot of times overdoses we can conceptualize in our head, oh, that's a drug addict. Oh, that's someone who's using drugs regularly. This could be a kid who goes to a party and just takes the wrong pill, doesn't even know what he or she is consuming and it's been laced with fentanyl and they die. And so many of these deaths, tragic. They're not even necessarily all drug addict deaths. It can be casual party drugs that just have gone wrong. You gotta talk to your kids about the dangers here of the choices that they're making and the consequences that can emerge from them. When we come back, we'll talk with Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy about many of the issues going on in the country from his perspective. Plus Steve Scalise, Hour two. That's next.
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A
Ten athletes will face the toughest job interview in fitness that will push past physical and mental breaking points.
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You are the fittest of the fit. Only one of you will leave here with an IFIT contract for $250,000.
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B
This is where mindset comes in.
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Someone will be eliminated.
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Pressure is coming down.
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This is Trainer Games.
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Watch it on prime video starting January 8th.
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Shh.
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