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The issue with the new information that you just indicated.
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Buck Sexton
Is the department seeking information perhaps from the Epstein estate because Mr. Blanche did not have that information when he interviewed Ghislaine Maxwell.
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What new information?
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Buck Sexton
And would you limit the new investigation to just those named persons that the President talked about, or is this a broad open ended investigation? I would refer to the deputy Attorney.
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Clay Travis
General's post that he put out on X. And we will, we're not going to say anything else on that because now.
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Buck Sexton
It is a pending investigation in the.
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Southern District of New York.
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Clay Travis
A pending investigation. Meanwhile, the House has demanded Epstein financial records from JPMorgan Chase, Deutsche bank and the US Virgin Islands. That's just in the last 24 hours. Now, a few things here I can't tell you. I don't know, obviously, and none of you know. No one outside of a very small circle knows what is in this release that Donald Trump, I am very confident, is going to sign the final step, if you will, before the release. And then there's 30 days. So we're going to wait a bit. We're going to wait a bit for this information. I don't know exactly how many days, but they have up to 30 days to release. Maybe it'll come much faster than that. We'll see how the bureaucracy handles this. But I sit here and I say to myself, because, you know, and the House has already released 65,000 documents related to Epstein. You know very well that I have been pounding a certain drum on this issue of follow the money, follow the money. It is completely unthinkable, unthinkable to me, or rather it should be unthinkable, maybe a better way of putting it that we do not have a full accounting of how Epstein pulled together a fortune that was approaching a billion dollars. This guy did not create some new product. He did not found some company. He was not some, you know, hedge fund guy running $30 billion of other people's money. There are ways you can make a billion dollars. Tax advice is not one of them. It's just not one of them. And so this then brings up, how did he make this money? Why is it that there were some people in Epstein's orbit who were unbelievably. And I mean that in the real sense of can't believe it. Unbelievably generous to him. Why? The money, I think, is the single best chance we have to get these answers. According to the subpoenas that were just put out by the house, JPMorgan Chase began an internal investigation into accounts previously held by Epstein, flagging some 4,700 transactions as suspicious. Epstein held accounts and bench with the banked with Deutsche bank from 2013 until 2018. So they're going back in here into the money trail and I sit here wondering how it is. And as, by the way, I want to be clear that sometimes I will ask questions here that are rhetorical because something isn't adding up. How is it possible that we don't have a full and, and clear understanding of where all of Epstein's money came from? We've had a little bit here, a little bit there, but this should be obvious. And I might add, if it's somewhere already, if they have the, the flowchart of funds, if it's in the release, why haven't we already been given it? Why is it taking all of this pressure and all of this time? Why is it taking us to this place to be in a situation to finally get those answers? So there's more that is, that is coming out here now. I think you can pretty much set your watch to this one. No matter what happens here with the files, in terms of nothing on this is all about getting Trump for the Democrats. And there's something very grotesque about Democrats suddenly caring. They didn't care about this during the Biden administration, suddenly caring so much about the Epstein files, Epstein's victims, all of this, it's hard not to view it as posturing, because it is posturing meant to create the moral high ground from which they can throw mud at Donald Trump, or at least the appearance of such a thing. No matter what happens with these files, I can assure you they will not say, you know, you know, Trump is cleared. Trump didn't do any. Didn't do anything. And so that also brings us to why I think Trump wasn't so immediately in favor of the release. Because no matter how much transparency he offers, or rather he gives and For a lot of you, I understand this is a follow through on a campaign promise. So you want it irrespective of anything else. And that's very valid. And clearly Trump has decided that that's what's going to happen. This should have been done. I think a lot of people recognize now sooner a lot of you were calling in and demanding it, to which I just kept saying, yeah, I want more transparency. I don't have the files right. It's not in my power to release them. All we can do is air as we did, our sense that there's, there's more here and that there's more to be uncovered. And I think that that has certainly happened. I think that has certainly been a very real motivation here. Right? Telling people, having the Trump base come forward and say, we don't have the answers we want, we're not accepting anything else. It's time for this all to come clean. Now, Speaker Johnson, he is pointing out here, this is cut one. He's saying that the President has nothing to do with it. Democrats are going to weaponize it. Just be prepared for this. They're going to attack Trump even if his name doesn't appear one more time in the files. Play Clip 1. This is a political exercise for Democrats, and it pains me to say it. I wish that was not the truth, but it is. It's undeniable. This is as deceitful and dishonest as their pointless stunt was to shut the government down. Democrats are using the Epstein tragedy, the unspeakable evils that this guy committed with his trafficking ring and all of the abuses that they, that they made these young women go through, they're using that as a political weapon to try to distract from their failures as a party and to try their best to try to tie President Trump somehow into this wretched scandal. The President had nothing to do with it. He's been very clear and he has nothing to hide, and that's why he's endorsed the vote today. I think that's where we are. I think the President is about to show all of his naysayers, detractors, haters. They're haters. They're not detractors and they're deranged. In many cases, they hate him in a way that is, that is irrational and that is extreme to the point of being unhealthy. Trump derangement syndrome. But they're not going to ever say that it's enough. You can never convince the people who have been trying to dirty Trump up with Epstein that There's not more to be found that would prove that Trump is really the bad guy. So just be prepared for that. And in fact, Chuck Schumer is out there saying already that this is. And this is cut three. One of the worst, most damaging moments of the Trump presidency. This will go down as one of.
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Buck Sexton
The most damaging moments of Donald Trump's presidency.
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Clay Travis
In trying so hard to hide the truth, Donald Trump has provoked the fiercest rebellion he's ever faced among his own supporters, both in Congress and around the country. All the lying, all the broken promises about transparency, all the bullying and threats to members of Congress who wanted these files released, it's all blown up in Donald Trump's face.
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Buck Sexton
His usual methods of intimidation and dishonesty have failed spectacularly in this instance.
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Clay Travis
So we are to believe, if you listen to Chuck Schumer there, who's had a rough go of it lately, you know, the whole Schumer shutdown disaster for him politically, people are realizing the guy's too old. Whatever fastball he used to have is no longer there. Chuck Schumer is saying, this is such a disaster. We are to believe that the Biden doj, which was on a jihad against Trump, we are to believe that they had derogatory information about Donald Trump while they were prosecuting him in two federal criminal trials that were, as we know, political, totally politically motivated, but that they, they didn't release this. How does that add up? You know, they never really addressed this. They just didn't pay attention. It's not hard. You have all these files, especially now with AI. I'm going to tell you something. You can find Trump's name and find every reference to him in seconds. Doing a simple search. And you could use AI to find anything that even vaguely is Trump adjacent in all these documents. So don't tell me, oh, they didn't have the manpower, they didn't have the ability to figure this out. No, they're doing this because, for one thing, unfortunately, they have been successful and completely changing the national political conversation away from the stupidity, the selfishness and the absurdity and the destruction of the Schumer shutdown. They've already managed, you notice. Does it even feel like we had a month long government shutdown for no good reason except for a Democrat tantrum? Feels like it was years ago now because they've completely shifted the conversation. That's already happened. I can't stop it. You know, I wish I had the power to direct the whole national conversation. We've got millions of you who listen, but there's you know, 350 million people in the country when you add all the illegals, something like that. So here we are and we're going to see Trump, we're going to see Trump signing this and then there's going to be more files released and we'll continue to work through them. I do not believe there will be a smoking gun. I was actually on with Piers Morgan for his show which will be airing later today. And Piers dramatically, strenuously disagrees with me on this. He thinks that there are people who are going to go to prison over the what's in the. I complete. I just don't see it because the DOJ then would have to admit that they were holding files that should have brought prosecutions for, for child sex traffickers. Really, the doj. I mean, I'm not saying that it's impossible to believe the DOJ would do that, but it's pretty extreme. That's, that's quite a stretch. And then they're going to release it and have to say, oh yeah, we were covering up for these guys. Are people even going to accept this? Ask yourself this question. Ask it now. Are people going to accept, if they do put out all the stuff they've got in their possession, will there be an acceptance that this is everything that they really have? Will we ever get all the answers? This is the reality of this moment we find ourselves in. I want to take your calls, take your talk backs on this, 800-282-2882. I've been on the show for four years and pure Talk has been a steadfast part of the program. Gosh, it'll be five years in June. Little known fact, they wanted to be the first sponsor you heard when Clay and I came together to co host this program. So we totally appreciate them. We never forget that. Let me tell you though, about their best offer ever, because this is about you. Pure Talk is offering you unlimited talk, unlimited text and unlimited Data with a 30 gig hotspot for just $29.95 a month for life. That's their lowest price ever. This is Pure Talk's top tier plan, normally $65 a month, now through December 7, 29.95amonth. You're saving over 50% a month every month for life, let alone the savings percentage you might realize from a more expensive plan from another carrier. And if you're wondering, yes, this is on their ultra fast 5G network. It's extremely short lived though, this offer. Make the switch today. Dial pound250 say Clay and Buck for Pure Talk's best unlimited plan. For just 29.95amonth, Pure Talk's US customer service team can have you switched in minutes. Keep your phone, keep your number. Start saving with unlimited for life for less than 30 bucks a month. Dial £250, say Clay and Buck to switch to my wireless company, Pure Talk. Taxes and fees not included. Some restrictions apply. See PureTalk.com for details. That offer. Expires December 7, 2025. Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton Mic drops that never sounded so good. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Sexton
I am in Rome. I'm overlooking the tomb of Augustus. And I got to go and see the Pope today in the Vatican to, you know, complete this idea that we had, which I think was a pretty cool one, to invite the Pope to come to Chicago and throw out an opening pitch for the Chicago White Sox. So all of this has. Has happened today. It's evening. Getting ready to go out and have some wine and have a good dinner, but it was an awesome day. So that was the super secret trip. I didn't want to step on anything about the, about the process of getting that invite out to the Pope, but got to meet the ambassadors to Italy and the Vatican City, got to be there for the offer to the Pope. And there's video and footage I think that's going to be up on outkick soon that we'll try to get shared with you guys.
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Clay Travis
So. So you. You have met with the Pontiff. You are not. You're not a Catholic, right, Clay?
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Buck Sexton
No, I am not. Yeah, and you're not. And. But it was, it was a. Yes.
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Clay Travis
But yeah, what I was gonna say is for.
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Buck Sexton
Of people, right, for our Catholic audience.
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Clay Travis
Is like a really, really big deal. You know, it'd be amazing to, to be able to actually meet the Pope in person. What was it like? I mean, take us through this. Did he. Did he tell you that, you know, Nick Saban is the greatest of all time? Like, did he make a sports joke? Like, did he. Bless you. Take us. Take. Where did you see him? You got to give us some of these details.
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Buck Sexton
So on Wednesday, they do a open public forum sort of Pope address in many different languages, you know, with probably 10, 15,000 people, maybe more than that in the, in the square outside of St. Peter's Outdoor. It was a great weather. I believe they have a big public area down on the, in the, in the larger sort of plaza there. We were up close to the stage. He does all of his. All of his homily, his address in multiple different languages. And then afterwards, there are people that he greets. And the new owner of the Chicago White Sox happens to be a law school classmate of mine. And we were a couple of months ago, sitting around trying to think of ways that he could introduce himself to the people of Chicago. And I had seen that JD Vance presents a Chicago Bears jersey to the Pope. And I said, you know what? We should. You should invite him to come and throw out the first pitch at a proposed new stadium that they are in the process of working through in Chicago for the White Sox. And that seems like a good Idea and then the process of, okay, well, how do you get in touch with the Pope to be able to get a meeting? He seems really, really excited at the idea. He got a. For Peter out there who are sports fans. The Chicago White Sox won the World Series in 2005, and Pope Leo, obviously not the Pope, then, was in the crowd at the World Series. And. And so he's a huge White Sox fan. And so my, My friend, the. The new owner, one of the new owners, soon to be officially the owner, got the whole team from 2005 to sign a White Sox jersey from that year and then also conveyed the offer to the Pope. You know, schedule permitting for the Pope to come and throw out the first pitch when they open the stadium. Pope hasn't been, to my knowledge, to Chicago since 1979. So, again, this happened early this morning in the Vatican and is becoming a big story, obviously, in Chicago. And I think a lot of people are finding it to be just a, you know, awesome, cool story in general overall, if you are, you know, there's not a particular political connotation to it or anything like that. But if you are a fan of. Of sports, it's just kind of cool to have an American Pope and someone who is going to. To hopefully in the next couple of years be able to come to Chicago and. And do something incredibly unique and awesome in the. In the city. So that's kind of.
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Clay Travis
So the offer was made, but we don't. We don't yet know if the Pope is going to be able to do this. Is that right?
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Buck Sexton
Well, he just. I mean, the Pope's schedule, as one might imagine, is very busy. He said that he wants to do it. We've got to figure out exactly what the date is, but it's kind of what I would say is a conditional acceptance. He knew that the offer was coming. He was excited to be able to get the offer to get the jersey, to be able to meet. And I think he's going to. I think he's going to try and. And I mean, he said he's going to try and do it, so it could. It should be a pretty awesome event.
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Clay Travis
Look at you, globetrotting.
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Buck Sexton
So making. It's trying to do good things and make the world a little bit better place, as everyone assumes that I always will be trying to do.
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Clay Travis
And Clay. Clay is. Is making his. Making his moves over there at the Catholic rock of St. Peter. That is the church. So now tell me what you think about the Epstein file. Since we got you on the phone, since we got you.
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Buck Sexton
I'm glad that everybody has voted to release some buck. You've got the rest of the show. I am going to have abundant amounts of wine tonight and have a great dinner in Rome. I hope that you have some.
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Clay Travis
I'll handle it. I'll handle it. You go have some gelato with Laura and the kids. Go have fun. And a very cool congratulations on the meeting with the Pope and thank you, sir. Come, come back Friday or Monday, whatever you got. We'll see you then.
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Buck Sexton
Okay, we'll do.
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Clay Travis
I'll see you. Have fun, man. Have a good dinner. So I decided. There you go. Clay met the Pope. So there's that. And that was why he was, he was gone this week. It's very exciting, Very exciting. The Pope also, we did have. I was going to read the email from, from Sissy who said that that's what she thought was happening. And that's a pretty remarkable, pretty remarkable call. She said, I'm looking forward to hearing the details of Clay's super secret trip on the show. My guess is he got a once in a lifetime interview with the Pope since he's a baseball fan. Just a wild guess. There you go. You nailed it. And Sissy, we got your follow up email. Oh, my goodness. I got it correct. Clay and the Pope. Maybe I should buy a lottery ticket. So we did have. That was before Clay tweeted about this or put it out on X, but this was before that happened. Clay was supposed to reveal this on the show, but he's Clay, he does whatever he wants. So there we are, team. Why don't we. Because, because we're gonna have kind of a hard turn coming up here into the world of. From meeting with the Pope to the release of the Epstein files. We have a little bit of a, of a transition to do. And we'll rack and stack some calls and some talk backs on this one because I think that what we are seeing is hopefully what many of you have been demanding all along. We also have the White House weighing in on the filibuster via Caroline Levitt and Trump really rolling out the red carpet for the Saudi leadership, which is something that I think this is a good thing for the region, a good thing for America, for the Middle East, I mean, good thing for America. I think you might see a normalization of relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia under this Trump presidency, furthering the Abraham Accords. And I think you might see a big move in the, in the Middle east with regard to that. And Trump is trying to bring that about, of course, there are the detractors, the haters out there, the people who are upset that Trump would sit with the head of state of a country that whether we want to deal with the Saudis or not is critical to our energy infrastructure or rather energy markets. And we really don't have a choice. So why not have a constructive relationship with the Saudis? Why not try to encourage them to, yes, invest in America, which is a huge focus from Trump, but also to do what they can to liberalize. I know Saudi Arabia is an autocracy. I'm fully aware of the, and I know about the past with Saudi Arabia's role in unfortunately exporting the what used to be referred to very much as the Wahhabist ideology, which is a radical interpretation of Islam, setting up Wahhabist mosques all over the world. And they've moved away from that. They've become a constructive partner for security in the, in the region. And they're making overtures toward a better relationship with Israel. And that would be very helpful for Middle east peace and stability. So that's why that's going on. Also something else. We're gonna have Michael Watley joining us later. He's running for Senate up there in North Carolina, very important Senate seat. And there's some major immigration enforcement operations underway in North Carolina that there's pushback, of course, from Democrats. What's really going on there? When I tell you, I have some stats. When I tell you how many kids are staying home because of immigration, illegal alien immigration enforcement in North. Carol, I think you're going to be pretty shocked. And it gives you a sense of how enormous the scale of illegal immigration is and the costs associated with this. You are paying for this, especially if you live in North Carolina, live in these, these districts where the kids are staying home. You're paying for English as a second language training in these schools. You are bringing in students from abroad who are going to be far beyond, far behind. We already threw the Americans behind grade level. We're going to be way behind grade level and hold the rest of the class back. Think about this. If English is not their first language and then they're put in these classrooms, there's just so much going on here. We'll talk to Michael Watley about the immigration enforcement component of this coming up. And like I said, we'll get to your calls here. Epstein files. Trump is signing it. Congress has said, all right, you're getting the files. Is this good enough? Is it assuming it happens, is this good enough? Is there more? What do you think give us a call? Look, Clay unfortunately doesn't have a rapid radio right now. Technically I think that would be too far away in Italy. 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Buck Sexton
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Buck Sexton
Thank you. I love the show. I love Clay being able to go see the Pope and get him to throw out the first baseball. I think that's awesome. I'm a local pastor, but the reason I called in was just to say it's sad that the only unity we can have is something that has to do with a man that's already dead and we can't do anything about what's already been done. Yes, everyone should be prosecuted. That's done wrong. And that in that sense, with Epstein. But where is the unity of Congress when it comes to the economy of our nation?
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Clay Travis
Well, I mean, that's. Thank you for calling in, sir. Yeah, there's, there's unity on this issue now. And we'll see how long the sense of unity lasts after this information is made public, because I think it will be very rapidly and in bad faith, really weaponized and transformed if it has to be. And it will have to be, in my opinion, to be somehow an attack on Donald Trump. That's, that's what's going to happen. As for why there's not unity, well, because they're lunatic communists who are emotionally unstable and don't view the world as it is. And we're trying to actually deal with a complicated world, like adults, as, as the right, as Republicans. That's, that's the reason we can't get unity, unfortunately. That's the way it is, and that's where we are. Anna in Raleigh, North Carolina. What's going on? Anna.
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Buck Sexton
Thanks for taking my call.
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Clay Travis
You're welcome.
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Buck Sexton
Can you hear me?
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Clay Travis
Yeah, we all hear you.
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Buck Sexton
I think it's. I think it's about time.
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Clay Travis
I do.
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Buck Sexton
I think it's about time that everything comes out about Epstein. All those that were involved in it need to be prosecuted, end all the conspiracies, be done with it. Be done with it, because nobody in the country is going to hear anything else until this is over.
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Clay Travis
Do you think this will be the end of it in terms of transparency demands and the information, or do you think that this is just another step in the process?
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Buck Sexton
Well, that depends whether or not if any arrests come out of it.
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Clay Travis
There we go. That's a big, that's a big and very valid, very valid point to raise. Thank you so much for calling in. Let's take some talk backs here. Sonny from Scottsdale, Arizona. BB bb Hello.
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Announcer
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Clay Travis
Cling and Buck. I am a huge fan. I listen to you guys every day. I'm in Scottsdale, Arizona, and it just makes me so mad that they cannot stop attacking Donald Trump. They had every chance to get the Epstein files open when Biden was in office and they did nothing. And now Trump is trying to be transparent with this besides taking care of everything else, and they're still attacking him. Just pisses me off. Yeah, it, I, I feel the same way about this. I think that they, you know, also, I'll tell you something, as, as a, as a man, there's something particularly galling and outrageous about people knowingly falsely insinuating some kind of sex crime or sexual impropriety. And they're doing this to Trump all the time. And you know, ask any guy, it's such an underhanded thing to do. And this is what they've been doing. Whether it was the, they've been doing this against Trump all along. There's all kinds of accusations they've leveled against him. And they're going to, I think, unfortunately, they're going to continue to do this. So we will continue to talk about this situation. Next hour, we'll have Michael Watley, former RNC chairman and North Carolina Senate candidate, talking about the immigration raids in North Carolina. And we'll also look at how the Democrats are positioning themselves with this Epstein release. And, oh, and Trump talking about Saudi Arabia and how the, he said, I think a trillion dollars of investment he's trying to get to the Saudis. Trillion dollars. Real money, everybody. We'll discuss all that and we'll take your calls and we'll keep rocking on the show and we will bask in the holiness. Maybe there's a halo over Clay's head after his meeting with the Pope. Shh.
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