Hour 1 - Fourth Branch of Gov't?

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 1 - Fourth Branch of Gov't?
Date: June 29, 2026
Host: Buck Sexton (Clay Travis on vacation)
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts

---

Overview

This episode centers on major recent Supreme Court decisions and their implications for federal power, election integrity, and administrative oversight—themes Buck Sexton frames as pointing to the rise of a potential "fourth branch" of government. The conversation is interwoven with analysis of political fallout from the 2024 presidential debate and ongoing foreign policy, especially regarding Iran. Sexton brings his signature blend of conservative commentary, skepticism toward the administrative state, and humor, offering both legal breakdown and political strategizing.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Supreme Court Rulings: Administrative Power & Election Day

Presidential Authority to Fire Agency Officials

• Segment: 03:00–08:00
• Ruling Highlighted: Supreme Court clarifies that the president has broad authority to fire federal agency appointees for reasons including lack of alignment with administration priorities.
• Buck Sexton explains:
  "There is now clarity that at least a broader subset of the deep state than allowed by lower courts is subject to the president’s just saying, ‘I don’t want you to be running an agency anymore.'” (07:30)
• Federal Reserve officials (Lisa Cook) remain insulated, reinforcing Buck’s "fourth branch" concern:
  "It seems to operate almost as its own branch of the government ... It's not spelled out in the Constitution, but it is almost a fourth branch of government." (07:50)
• Implications: Reasserts executive authority but highlights how deeply certain bureaucracies are entrenched.

Supreme Court Decision on Election Day Ballots

• Segment: 08:00–14:00, 23:54–28:08
• Case: Watson v. Republican National Committee (5-4 decision)
• Majority (Barrett, Roberts, Sotomayor, Kagan, Jackson): Upheld that states can count ballots postmarked by Election Day but received up to five days after—the "day" becomes a "window."
• Buck’s reaction: "This has now extended election day to be a multi day process ... In a close election, there will be days where all of a sudden new ballots can appear, and the Supreme Court ... says that is supposed to be fine." (12:30)
• Dissent (Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh): Warns this breaks historical precedent and opens the avenue for fraud.
• Clay adds (read by Buck):
  "If you're a state out there that counts ballots after election day based on your state law, that state law will stand." (23:54)
• Broader worry: The expanded timeline could erode public trust in elections, fueling perceptions of vulnerability to fraud.
• Notable Quote (Alito):
  “Today’s decision is inconsistent with the terms of the election day statutes, contemporary election law principles, two centuries of historical practice and the case law on the question presented.” (24:28)

---

2. Birthright Citizenship & ‘Temporary’ Federal Protection

• Segment: 14:00–17:12; referenced elsewhere
• Buck highlights that the citizenship case is still pending and expresses doubt about a decision aligned with what he deems “reasonable.”
• On Temporary Protected Status (TPS) for Haiti:
  Buck promises discussion about how “temporary” often becomes de facto permanent (i.e., “20 years plus and never ending,” 24:45), focusing later in the week with a guest expert.

---

3. Foreign Policy Update: Iran

• Segment: 19:00–23:54
• Buck summarizes Trump’s hardline message following recent U.S. airstrikes on Iranian targets for violating a ceasefire:
  • Trump (as paraphrased by Buck):
    "If that happens, the Islamic Republic of Iran will no longer exist ... There may come a point when we are no longer able to be reasonable." (20:00)
• Buck doubts the seriousness of mutual threats and sees the main geopolitical goal as maintaining low oil prices for domestic stability ahead of the mids (20:58).

---

4. Political Theater: Anniversary of the 2024 Presidential Debate

• Segment: 28:08–40:00
• Buck reflects on the two-year anniversary of the 2024 Biden-Trump debate, describing it as a watershed event that exposed President Biden as unfit and triggered Democratic panic:
  • Montage of media reactions played (33:45–34:31):
    “There is a deep, a wide and a very aggressive panic in the Democratic Party ... The party is in full blown panic mode.”
  • Buck’s take: "This was one of the greatest moments in American politics in my lifetime because the jerks, the liars, the frauds and the fakers all got a giant pie slammed in their face." (34:31)
• He mocks prominent pundits—especially Joe Scarborough—for their reversal and claims of Biden’s excellence prior to the debate:
  • Scarborough previously:
    "This version of Biden intellectually, analytically, is the best Biden ever, not a close second. And I’ve known him for years." (excerpt replayed 38:00)
  • Buck calls this: “one of the biggest, most absurd lies ever told by anyone in media at any time.” (38:50)
• Takeaway: The moment highlights media complicity and the willingness of political elites to cover for their side until they're publicly exposed.

---

5. Listener Calls & Audience Engagement

• Segment: 43:06–44:52
• Buck takes a call from Bob in Louisiana, who references the famous (if misattributed) Stalin quote: “Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.”
  • Buck clarifies the origin and warns about misplaced historical confidence:
    "...as somebody who's read a few Stalin biographies, that's actually a misattribution.” (44:15)
• Emphasizes the importance of vigilance in U.S. electoral processes.

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Buck Sexton on the 'Fourth Branch':
  "It's not spelled out in the Constitution, but it is almost a fourth branch of government... You can't just come in and fire people from the Federal Reserve." (07:50)

• On ‘Election Day’ Redefined:
  "Now they just got a huge addition to the toolkit..." re: eligibility for late-arriving ballots, tied to risk of fraud. (13:40)

• On Media Response to Biden's Debate Performance:
  "All these people who sneer at you and me ... They will openly humiliate themselves in front of anybody with an IQ over 60 and just the least bit of accountability and wisdom." (39:30)

• On Audience Engagement:
  "Just search the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show and hit the subscribe button. Takes less than five seconds to help un-unk me." (43:03)

---

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Presidential Firing Power & FTC/ Federal Reserve: 03:00–08:00
• Supreme Court Ruling on Election Day: 08:00–14:30, 23:54–28:08
• Iran/Foreign Policy Update: 19:00–23:54
• Listener Calls (election integrity & counting): 43:06–44:52
• 2024 Debate Anniversary & Media Critique: 28:08–40:00

---

Tone & Style

• Buck Sexton’s tone is engaged, occasionally sardonic, and clearly partisan. He leverages personal anecdotes and jabs at both political figures and media personalities to underscore his skepticism of federal bureaucracy and the mainstream narrative.

• Political and legal analysis is interspersed with humor and a touch of nostalgia, especially in the debate segment. Buck encourages vigilance and conservative engagement, framing current events as critical to the structure and trustworthiness of American government.

---

This summary covers the major substance of Hour 1 of the episode, capturing both the legal analyses and the larger ideological concerns driving the show, supplemented with direct quotes, timestamps, and contextual notes for listeners who missed the broadcast.

Transcript

[Clay Travis]

This is an iHeart podcast guaranteed human

[Buck Sexton]

this July 4th, come celebrate at America's Block Party hosted by America 250. America's Block Party is a can't miss 4th of July concert happening at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.

[Clay Travis]

Experience music, performances by major artists, patriotic tributes and the kickoff to giving 4th, helping to make July 4th the largest day of giving in American history.

[Buck Sexton]

It's more than just fireworks.

[Clay Travis]

Join this landmark celebration and get your America's Block Party Tickets now for $[e-mail] LA with my mom and dad living in Orange county, when we bring my five and seven year old to visit, we are sometimes in for a two hour drive that could feel like ten.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, as an avid camper, I know all about this. We'll pack up the RV and know this is either going to be the trip of a lifetime or a complete disaster.

[Clay Travis]

Which is why we load up the iPads with Lingokids before we even pull out of the driveway.

[Buck Sexton]

It's what dreams are made of. Lingokids keeps kids engaged and quiet with over 4000 interactive games, songs and shows that kids simply cannot get enough of.

[Clay Travis]

You can pack whatever you think you'll need, but Lingokids is the only entertainment you'll need for a stress free car ride.

[Buck Sexton]

Or really any ride, plane, train, hovercraft, whatever.

[Clay Travis]

Download Lingokids for free today or unlock

[Buck Sexton]

even more amazing content with LingoKids.

[Clay Travis]

Plus choose the yearly plan and save up to 60%. Search LingoKids in the app Store or Google Play.

[Buck Sexton]

Lingokids Everything kids love. AI is taking over the Internet. Made up facts, technology thinking for you. StartPage is the private search engine that still finds what you need without the noise. Try [e-mail] that's startpage.com hi, it's Karen

[Clay Travis]

in Georgia from my favorite Murder. We cruised around LA in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr. Want the full story? Take a listen. She starts dating Howard Hughes and in fact she helps him design a faster plane. So she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy and Lamarr and Billie Jean King presented by the Hyundai Ioniq 5.

[Commercial Announcer]

Goodbye professional wrestling fans. The action continues every week. This is total non stop action. TNA Thursday Night Impact every week on AMC for showtimes and more information, visit

[Buck Sexton]

tnarestling.com welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show podcast. Welcome in everybody, to the Monday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate you being here with me, everyone. Clay is on vacation for this week as well, I think until Thursday.

[Commercial Announcer]

Until Thursday.

[Buck Sexton]

The team tells me his. His new name, Clay the Big Kahuna Travis. He is showing the Hawaiians how to surf. He's picked it up very quickly. Almost as good at surfing as he is at golf, I am told. Some people are saying so, but he misses you all and he will be back very soon. It's just me today. We have a ton of news which is a little bit unexpected, honestly, because the week before a big holiday weekend, America's 2 50th, you would generally think things start to slow down. As I always tell you, news is a narrative. For the most part, it is stories that people choose to tell. It's not things that happen in a vacuum that everyone must know. So when the journos go on vacation, there tends to be less stuff talked about. Not here, though. We have a ton to discuss with you and I want to just lay out some of where we're going today. A couple of, I would say, pretty important Supreme Court, not mega cases, but some pretty important Supreme Court decisions came down today. A little bit of a mixed bag. We did not, unless it happened while I was in the elevator or something. We have not yet gotten the birthright citizenship case coming down, which I. I am prepared for disappointment on that. I am hoping for a better outcome than I am expecting. But I have a couple of things, including on can Trump fire deep state bureaucrats at some of these agencies, these agencies that are both quasi legislative and quasi executive, we are told, like the ftc, the Federal Trade Commission. Ftc, I might add, doesn't actually deal with trade in the sense of like US China trade. It's really a regulatory body against fraud, which very few people. Well, you guys look at me like I'm crazy. Why am I. Why am I crazy? Am I crazy? No. Okay. They're looking at me for something else. Maybe I'm just having a good hair day. I'm here with. With the team in New York, so I am in Mamdani ville and all is well. It's very. I gotta tell you, this city is bumping. It is. It is perhaps momdani proof so far because it is thriving despite some of his idiotic policies, decisions and all the rest of it. Uh, we've also got updates for you on the Iran situation. Um, the Iran situation, which is, you know, it's. It's moving along. I'll. I'll share with you what the latest is from the president on that. Let's just say it is not a totally done deal. It is not a totally done deal. Oh, and then the outrage from the left over the weekend. I spent a lot of time on this one. I've really been digging into the temporary protected status, particularly of Haitians, the history of this, what is going on in Haiti today. And our friend Clay and Buck. Podcast host David Rutherford, former Navy seal, guy's a combat vet, did some really cool stuff, interesting stuff. He'll be with us in the third hour to talk about why is it that Haiti is a failed state, completely run by gangs, where whoever has the most AK47s and PKMs on the back of pickup trucks is somehow the government? We'll talk to him about that in just a little bit. But I will begin today with some of these Supreme Court decisions, because those just came down. So that goes. We gotta put those in the breaking news category. You had in a. Should we do the good news first or the bad news first? This is always a. I don't know. I don't. I don't. I feel like if I go bad news first, some of you might, you know, change the dial or something. I can't have that. I'll give you the good news first. It's a Monday. We gotta lead with the sweetener. Before we get to the. Before we get to the sour. The. Generally speaking, the Supreme Court has ruled that there is a pretty broad authority for the president, in this case, of course, President Trump, to fire people who work in federal agencies. And not just to fire them for cause, to fire them because, as the administration said, in some of these cases, they do not align with the priorities of the current administration. Now, this is where things get a little bit muddy, a little bit murky. Well, are these executive branch agencies? Because then, of course, an executive branch appointee should be able to be fired, should be subject to the serving at the pleasure or lack thereof of the president. And in this case, some lower courts said, no, how dare you? You can't actually fire people because you don't like what they have done. You can't fire them because this is a 6, 3 ruling, by the way. But federal regulators, these are regulatory agencies, including Rebecca Slaughter, who is a commissioner on the Federal Trade Commission. So Trump is allowed to fire her. They said. So that's the good news part of this is there is now clarity that at least a broader subset of the deep state than anticipated, or I should say than allowed by lower courts is subject to. The president's just saying, I don't want you to be running an agency anymore under my administration. The part of this that's a little bit weirder is that the Federal Reserve governor, Lisa Cook, that one is still, well, let's just say he's not able to get rid of her quite yet. That one is still in that process of. Hold on a second. Does she actually work for is she actually, you know, subject to presidential oversight, presidential jurisdiction? You would think that this would be the case. You would think that this is really straightforward. But sure enough, there are deep state elements that are burrowed in so deep that, for example, the Federal Reserve, it seems to operate almost as its own branch of the government or something. It's the uncon. It's not spelled out of the Constitution, but it is almost a fourth branch of government government. You can't just come in and fire people from the Federal Reserve. So that's a, an important case that came down, the one that's disappointing. Although that's, that's, maybe that's a partial, you could say that's a partial win. The, the one that is, that is a bit tougher to, to handle right now has to do with what is election day. So, yeah, so far Trump can't fire the Fed governor so far. But what is election day? This is a case that went down by 5, 4. It's Watson v. Republican National Committee. And it has to do with can, can you count ballots in an election if they are actually received by the election authority, the state of Mississippi, in this case, up to five days after the election. So this was five, four. And you can guess who was the five for the and who was the four here? Amy Coney Barrett, I believe, wrote for the majority on this one. And what they ended up saying is, yeah, in fact, election day just means the decision is made by that day. So if it's postmarked in time, you can count it five days later in that election. Now, in the dissent on this one, Justice Alito made the point that from the founding of this nation until the last few decades of the 20th century, having an election on a particular day meant completing ballot collection on that day. This has now extended election day to be a multi day process. The day is not, it is done on the day. The day is did you make your thought process known on that day or before and then we got five days to gather it all together. We can all see why this is a problem, right? This is really about arguing what does an election day mean. Where does federal preemption come in for election laws? There, there is some, there's some complicated precedent based analysis of this and all the rest of it. But when push comes to shove, what it really means is in a close election, in a close election, there will be days where all of a sudden new ballots can appear and the Supreme Court that were not counted initially, four or five days later, new ballots can show up and oh, those can tip the election. And we are told that that is supposed to be fine. As you can imagine, the justices on the four side of the five, four decision, including Alito, are just saying you are changing the definition of an election day, which they are. And you are also inviting through this the single most destructive thing that can occur to the faith we have in our elections, which is people can just show up with extra ballots to close the gap after they know. Remember, it's a huge advantage if you are trying to cheat to know that I don't need 50,000 votes, I just need 5,000 votes. Because if you get 50,000 out of nowhere, people might start to check. And it's a little, you know, the scale of the, of the cheating, the gap you have to make up is critical information for anybody who wants to illicitly tip an election one way or another. Well, now they just got a huge addition to the toolkit which is, okay, this election, this, this election for this House seat is, you know, one's one, you know, the Republican has 35,000 votes, the Democrat has 32,000 votes. We got five days team to show up with 3,000 more votes. We'll call it 3213 just to make it seem a little bit odd and you know, odd numbered and boom, that's totally valid, totally legit. Supreme Court now says that that is fine. Amy Coney Barrett riding along with the communist wackos in judicial robes. So that's a disappointing one. You will note from my voice, from the way I'm talking about this. That is a disappointing one. And I think election integrity. Now a lot of people are going to say this might charge up the save act a bit. We'll see. You know, call Thune's office, send in your letters to his office. Let's see if that happens. But it certainly does raise for people yet again. There are far too many ways that it's easy to cheat and hard to get caught. And The Supreme Court just gave them another one. So I agree that's a bit of a bummer. I wish it was not the case, but that is a bit of a bummer. I also am waiting as everyone else is before, and I think it will come. Well, it will come down this week for the birthright citizenship case, which I would if I were a betting man. I would not bet on the reasonable. I would not bet on the rational. I would bet on the political. As in, yeah, even if you're a birth tourist who comes here explicitly to violate our laws. Anyway, I don't want to get ahead of it though, because I could be wrong. I could be wrong on that one. Maybe the maybe the court. Yay. Maybe the court does the right thing. We'll see. You know, there are people going through life with constant stomach aches and no idea what's causing them. Every meal is a gamble and the bottle of Tums is just an uncomfortable crutch. Some foods are fine while others leave us feeling just awful. Truth is, we don't know and guess with the little info we have. This was my life for a while, so I can relate. If your DNA is the blueprint, your RNA shows what's actually happening. That's where viome comes in. Viome is a simple at home gut health test that uses advanced RNA technology to analyze your gut microbiome and understand how your body really functions. From there, viome creates a personalized food and supplement plan designed specifically for your body. Instead of guessing, you get guidance based on real data. And when people follow their plan, many report better digestion, more energy and improved mood. Go to viome.com that's V as in victory. I o m e.com use code CB50 to get $50 off. That's viome. V as in victory. I o M e.com CB50 is your code for 50 bucks off.

This July 4th, come celebrate at America's Block Party hosted by America 250. America's Block Party is a can't miss 4th of July concert happening at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.

[Clay Travis]

Experience music, performances by major artists, patriotic tributes and the kickoff to giving 4th helping to make July 4th the largest day of giving in American history.

[Buck Sexton]

It's more than just fireworks.

[Clay Travis]

Join this landmark celebration and get your America's Block Party Tickets now for $17.76 at america250.org LA mom, can I have Lingokids? Dad?

[Buck Sexton]

Lingokids please. When did we become the Lingokids House?

[Clay Travis]

No idea. Last week it was dinosaurs. This week It's Lingokids.

[Buck Sexton]

Why Lingokids?

[Clay Travis]

Because it's the best thing ever. We can play games with astronauts, wild animals and superheroes.

[Buck Sexton]

With more than 4,000 interactive games, songs and shows, LingoKids is the number one entertainment platform for young kids.

[Clay Travis]

So no dinosaurs and dinosaurs.

[Buck Sexton]

Lingokids. Everything kids love, download it for free.

AI has taken over the Internet. Wrong answers, made up facts. He asks a simple question and get a generated essay. Nobody asked for technology. Trying to decide for you and still getting it wrong. The Internet didn't used to be this way. When you just want to search anything online and find what you need, StartPage is the private search engine that keeps it simple. Real links, less noise. And we don't keep track of what you asked. Try [e-mail] that's startpage.com

[Commercial Announcer]

professional wrestling fans. The action continues every week. This is total non stop action. TNA Thursday night impact every week on AMC. For showtimes and more information, information, visit tnarestling.com these days, it seems like AI agents are just about everywhere you turn, every field and every function. But without identity, you can't trust they'll serve your business instead of jeopardizing it. Fortunately, Okta helps you get identity right by securing your AI agents identities, giving you a single layer of control, a single standard of trust. So whether an AI agent supports a single user or your entire enterprise, with Okta you'll turn risk into opportunity. Secure every agent, secure any agent. Okta secures AI.

[Buck Sexton]

As I was saying, some big Supreme Court cases that came down today, and we're still waiting on the birthright citizenship case. People have a lot of questions about, about these two cases and whether there'll be any further implications. I mean, the one thing that comes to mind for those who are saying, oh, what's the big deal? Five days, okay, why not 30 days after the election? You can still keep counting ballots. You say, oh, well, as long as they're postmarked. How hard is it to. And this is an actual question, not a rhetorical question. I don't know. How hard is it really to counterfeit a postmark? Probably not that hard. It's not like counterfeiting bills. I don't think postmarks have quite the security measures in them. But I can say I don't have expertise on this. I've never tried to counterfeit a postmark. So, yeah, that's, that's some of what. But it really, I think, is just more. This opens the window. So now we're not going to have the basic Regularity of expected of an election day on the Iran front for a second because I mentioned this, this is changing really hour by hour. But over the weekend I can tell you the following. Trump shared this on Truth social media. United States aircraft just struck Iranian missile. This was again over the weekend just struck Iranian missile and drone storage locations and coastal radar sites for violating the ceasefire agreement. Again, all caps. It is very possible that they will never learn. There may come a point when we are no longer able to be reasonable and will be forced to militarily complete the job that we very successfully started. If that happens, the Islamic Republic of Iran will no longer exist. They are not. I'm just, again, I'm rooting for Trump on this one, I'm rooting for America on this one. But the we're going to make Iran no longer exist is not a threat that in any way concerns them. We've gone way past that kind of, oh, I'm going to, I'm going to hit you so hard. You're going to, you know, you're going to feel it through next Wednesday or something. That's not, that's not doing anything. So we just got to keep this thing on track for our own, let's just be honest about it, our own oil and gas and domestic political purposes. Got to keep that oil price low or it's going to be ugly in the midterms. That's really where we are now. I'm not even looking to get too deep into the deal. A ceasefire where neither side has really ceased firing for any length of time is a, is a shaky thing. By the way, Iranian state media also said it has, quote, no choice but to obtain the atomic bomb to remove the military option for the occupation and partitioning of Iran, arguing Iran must absolutely reach nuclear deterrence before current negotiations can be conducted from a correct position. That's from the fars. That's like their state news agency. So the Iranians are talking tough too. Like I said, where does this go? Let's just hope the thing stays on some pathway and the gas prices stay low and we won't have to focus on too much of this. Beyond all of that, you know, what would you do if an intruder broke into your home? This can happen anywhere in the country. As you know, not something we like to think about, but just like having a fire evacuation plan, you want to be prepared before you are in that imminent danger. So part of preparation is having the right self protection tools. Our sponsor Sabre, has been manufacturing non lethal self defense tools for over 50 years. We got a bunch of them in the Sexton household, including their best selling Sabre Home Defense Launcher. Sabre Home Defense Launcher is easy to use, delivers seven powerful pepper or impact projectiles, two more than most competitors. Sabre products are non lethal, very effective at stopping the threat. Right now you can save up to 15% on select bundles from Sabre. When safety matters, America chooses Sabre. Go to Sabrotect.com s a b r e protect.com or call 844-824. Safe.

[Clay Travis]

Is a 54 loss for Republicans and an interesting cobbling together of who wrote on this. Justice Barrett wrote the opinion. Justice Roberts joined her along with Justices Sotomayor, Kagan and Jackson. So those five stuck together on this. The dissent comes from Justice Alito. Thomas, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh join him. And essentially what the majority said is that these federal statutes setting election day don't prescribe or don't they don't stand in conflict with states that want to say, okay, we have a procedure to count ballots after election day. Justice Alito, writing for the dissent, says today's decision is inconsistent with the terms of the election day statutes, contemporary election law principles, two centuries of historical practice and the case law on the question presented. So if you're a state out there that counts ballots after election day based on your state law, that state law will stand.

[Buck Sexton]

Our friend Shannon Bream over at Fox right as that decision came down this morning, telling everybody really good overview. She's the best court reporter in the business, doing a great job and doing a great job. Shannon Bream, some people are saying and then I think also you could break the recent decisions down into what is the meaning of temporary? We'll talk about the whole Haiti TPS thing coming up. What is the meaning of temporary? Democrats when it suits them say temporary means 20 years plus and never ending, which doesn't feel temporary to a lot of us. What is the meaning of in America? That was another decision that came down last week. The Sotomayor, Ketanji, Brown, Jackson, Kagan wing of the court says in America means well in Mexico, but like you want to be in America, you're really close. But that's not in America, is it? Today, unfortunately, election day means not. The election is concluded on the day. In terms of the collection of ballots. It means, you know, mostly, but like we'll take others for a few days. Now. Some people are very upset by this, some people probably a bit less. So I would just say until we have a massive caught red handed where everyone's clear on what happened? You know, I'll tell you this. People would say, buck, what about 20, 20, what about that election fraud? And I'll say, okay, do I believe that there was fraud? Yes. What exactly happened? What exactly? If I asked 20 of you right now or 10 of you right now, what was the fraud? We would all say there was fraud, but I would. But what would the specifics of it be? How was it done? Where was it done? What were the numbers? Until we have, I think, a moment like that where an election is essentially stolen and the people stealing it are caught red handed, and we're all clear on that evidence, and there's a Republican in a position to do something about it with the courts, and the courts don't shut it all down. This is starting to feel pretty remote. Then maybe attitudes on this will change. Because one of the big challenges that you have on all of this is always going to be. Be. Well, there's like some fraud, but there's not that much fraud. There's a little bit of fraud, but it's not that much fraud. Mm. Actually, the first thing that they tend to say is, there is no fraud. And this is just gaslighting because there are people who are sitting in prison for voting fraud of different kinds, vote fraud of different kinds. So we know that it exists. But they'll say that as sort of a first. A first line of throwing people off. And then they'll say, well, there's not much. And then they'll say, well, there's not enough to change an election. And then they'll say, you can't actually prove that there was enough to change that election, even if you. And so on and so forth. Just always changing the goalposts. You know, it's that. That's the way they do this. But something that I was thinking about over the weekend just to have a little fun with all of you, which I love to do. We're approaching America's 250th, which is exciting and gonna be a lot of revelry, American flags, fireworks. Please let the pros handle most of the fireworks. Okay? There's always somebody who does something somewhere with. It usually involves some kind of M80.

Okay.

Be very careful out there with your fireworks. Go to a fireworks show where people are doing this for the most part. I know a lot of you're like, I'm great at fireworks. I got a whole shed full of them. I'll tell you the. I had very limited explosives training in the CIA and a pretty good amount of gun training. The gun stuff, I always felt I enjoyed that training. I enjoyed learning and getting better. Explosives always freaked me out, man. And I was, you know, on a scale at a 1 to 10, if 10 is like an EOD, I was like a 1 or a 2. You know, I knew very little, but I was around them, built some explosive stuff, man. Once you've, once you've built something with C4 and clacked it off and seeing what it can do, you're like, oh, so just be careful with your fireworks, please. Little, little public safety tip there. That's coming up. But there was another anniversary that just passed. No, not Juneteenth, of course we, we celebrated that Clay and I celebrated it in our own ways because we did the show that day. We could, you could say we did a quiet Juneteenth celebration, a subtle one. But that is not the celebration that I have in mind. That is actually not the commemoration that is in the forefront, if you will. It is the two year anniversary of the greatest presidential debate maybe of all time, certainly the most memorable, and I think the one that had the greatest impact. You recall, it was on June 27, year of our Lord 2024, that this moment on live national television occurred. And so over the weekend we commemorated the two year play. Cut to please. Making sure that we continue to strengthen our healthcare system, making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for. What I've been able to do with the, with the COVID Excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with. Look, if we finally beat Medicare. Thank you, President Biden. President Trump was right. He did beat Medicare. He beat it to death. And in that moment, President Trump essentially sealed his second term. We knew at that point, I was watching that live as it happened. And I don't think we should ever. We should commemorate this because you will see as we go forward into this midterm, the Democrats will say a lot of things as a party about Republicans. I think they will lie, they will smear, they will slander, will they apologize? Will there be one moment where any Democrat of any standing looks at the American people and says, you know, what was really wrong when we had a president with clear dementia who was not mentally of capacity, not of sound mind, truly not of sound mind to be president. And we all just chose to lie about it. And we all chose to cover it up. We, meaning the Democrat Party, their allies in the media, the NGO industrial complex, the purple haired nose ringed ladies who are always unhappy about everything. They all chose to Cover this up. And then they got their comeuppance all at once. Two years ago, almost to the day, it was over. It was a Saturday. This past Saturday was the, technically the June 27th. So we weren't on the air for it, but I wanted to commemorate it. The most important presidential debate, the only presidential debate that has ever caused a not just a contender, but a sitting president to no longer be an actual nominee for the presidency. You've never seen anything like this before. And I'm gonna tell you, there aren't that many moments where you get to really revel, where you get to, as I say, joyride in the wreckage of Democrat hopes and dreams. Quite the way we did on that night. It was honestly a like a near religious experience. It was incredible. I drove home with my wife after watching the debate and we turned on the live stream. Not of Fox. I don't need to know what Fox thinks about it because Fox thought about it. What I thought about it and you thought about it. I don't need to hear that. Right? No, no, no. That's not the pro move. The pro move in a moment like this is to turn on the home team media for the communists to go right over to MSNBC and cnn. And just what was Conan's line? You know, hear the lamentations of their women. Well, this was like, hear the lamentations of Chris Hayes. This was going over to MSNBC to watch the tears flow down from Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper and all the rest of them. This was, oh, Joe Scarborough too. We have the montage, right? Which one is the montage? We have. Listen to this incredible montage from that 24 hour news cycle after Biden's massive disaster debate. There is a deep, a wide and a very aggressive panic in the Democratic Party.

[Clay Travis]

The panic that I am hearing from Democrats is not like anything that I have heard. They're in a. I won't say a full fledged panic, but it's getting there. The party is in full blown panic mode.

[Buck Sexton]

That was painful. He didn't do well at all.

[Clay Travis]

I don't think we should sugarcoat this. This was not the debate performance that

[Buck Sexton]

the Biden campaign team wanted.

Joe Biden had one thing he had

[Clay Travis]

to do tonight and he didn't do it.

[Buck Sexton]

It's kind of a defcon. One moment.

Is that how he is every day? Tragically did not rise to the occasion last night. There are going to be discussion about whether he should continue, whether or not Biden can effectively go on with this campaign calls to replace him at the top of the ticket are getting even louder. It's not just panic, it's pain of what we saw tonight.

[Commercial Announcer]

I can't overstate the degree of freakout about what they were seeing.

[Buck Sexton]

This is the last chance for Democrats to decide whether this man we've known and loved for a very long time is up to the task. Can I just tell you something? Notice the, not just the sort of melodramatic nature of this, but also the feigned shock. They all knew, Everybody knew because I knew and you knew. And we were saying it every day for years, but now it became too much. Now it's like he really got caught and there was no way around it. And good old Joe Scarborough, whose show, as you know, I was watching leading up to that 2024 election. I was watching that show. I mean, I was probably a top viewer. I don't know if anyone was watching more Morning Joe than I was because they were telling us about the, it was the rise, the end of the republic and the rise of Nazism if Trump won. Every day, every day. But they also told us, again, I'm just, this is like great moments in basketball history where they show you the coolest dunks or, you know, the greatest, like long touchdowns. I just wanted us all to enjoy this together. Two years ago was one of the greatest moments in American politics in my lifetime because the jerks, the liars, the frauds and the fakers all got a giant pie slammed in their face simultaneously, courtesy of stumbling, mumbling Joe Biden. That was what happened. It was a beautiful moment for truth and justice and America overall. A beautiful moment. And never shall we forget that Joe Scarborough, just a few months before that event. And as you know, I was a Morning Joe super fan. He said this about 81 year old. Joe Scarborough, play three. Start your tape right now because I'm about to tell you the truth. And F you, if you can't handle the truth, this version of Biden intellectually, analytically, is the best Biden ever, not a close second. And I've known him for years. The Brzezinski have known him for 50 years. If it weren't the truth, I wouldn't say it. I will tell you this. That goes down as one of the, the biggest own goals and the most appallingly, condescendingly, just blatantly dishonest. One of the biggest, most absurd lies ever told by anyone in media at any time. I mean, that goes up there with like the Russia collusion hoaxers. That goes up there with the Bush National Guard documents in Dan Rather. This goes in the pantheon of journo fakery. This gets its own statue. And it was two years ago, almost to the day. Why am I talking about it now? One, because it's just so fun. All these people who sneer at you and me and pretend that people like Gavin Newsom are honest and patriotic and care about the republic and blah, blah, blah. And Kamala Harris is up for the job. Oh, yeah, Kamala's really smart. Everyone loves Kamala. They don't believe any of this. They will say anything for power. They will openly humiliate themselves in front of anybody with an IQ over 60 and just the least bit of accountability and wisdom. They will say anything. And this Biden moment two years ago was proof of that beyond any doubt. And all at once, all of a sudden, the crazy ancient emperor was dancing around the street naked with no clothing on. And everyone's like, oh, wow, the naked guy doesn't have any clothes on. What a shock. I know. Sorry. That's an image that I can't wipe from your mind now, naked Biden dancer. I'm sorry, I was just trying to do the metaphor thing and it got a little. Got a little crazy. When July arrives on Wednesday, it is the kickoff of National Grilling Month. Whether you're cooking burgers on a Tuesday, steaks on a Saturday, or hosting a backyard barbecue with friends over the weekend, you're going to want good ranchers meat, chicken and pork for the grill. I love good ranchers. You guys know this and they partner with local farmers and ranchers to deliver 100% American meat straight to your door. Everything they offer is pasture raised. No antibiotics, no added hormones. It's the kind of quality you can feel good about serving to the people gathering around your table for a meal. We've been cooking and eating good ranchers meat and chicken for a couple years now. Month after month, we get a great delivery of their products. And for steak lovers like me, feels like Christmas morning opening that steak box. I gotta tell you, really, really good stuff. The ribeyes. Ah, delicious. This July, Good Ranchers is celebrating all 50 states with $50 off your first order, go online to goodranchers.com, use My Name Buck at checkout. Get $50 off anything on their site. Remember, that's code buck. For $50 off, you can also get free meat with every order on top of the $50 off. If you decide to start a plan like we've had at our home, make this summer one to savor. Start with good [e-mail] goodranchers.com Code Buck

for Dollar this July 4th, come celebrate at America's Block Party. Hosted by America 250. America's Block Party is a can't miss 4th of July concert happening at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.

[Clay Travis]

Experience music, performances by major artists, patriotic tributes and the kickoff to giving 4th, helping to make July 4th the largest day of giving in American history.

[Buck Sexton]

It's more than just fireworks.

[Clay Travis]

Join this landmark celebration and get your America's Blood Party Tickets now for $17.76 at america250.org LA mom, can I have Lingokids? Dad? Lingokids, please.

[Buck Sexton]

When did we become the Lingokids House?

[Clay Travis]

No idea. Last week it was Dinosaurs. This week it's Lingokids.

[Buck Sexton]

Why Lingokids?

[Clay Travis]

Because it's the best thing ever. We can play games with astronauts, wild animals and superheroes.

[Buck Sexton]

With more than 4,000 interactive games, songs and shows, LingoKids is the number one entertainment platform for young kids.

[Clay Travis]

So no dinosaurs and dinosaurs.

[Buck Sexton]

Lingokids. Everything kids love. Download it for free.

Your 2am questions are nobody's business. Not the symptoms you're scared to tell your doctor. Not the money worries, not the things you'd rather keep private. Right now, companies are using what you look up online to track, target and make a fortune off your secrets. Startpage keeps your curiosity private. It's the private search engine that helps you find what you need without the spying and without the noise. Nobody in your business. No saved search history. Try [e-mail] that's startpage.com Professional wrestling fans,

[Commercial Announcer]

the action continues every week. Watch CNA Thursday Night Impact every week on AMC.

[Buck Sexton]

It is like electricity. Electricity flowing through your veins.

[Commercial Announcer]

Don't miss the adrenaline, the drama and the total non stop action.

[Buck Sexton]

No one can ever be as good as this right here.

[Commercial Announcer]

Don't miss the action of TNA Thursday Night Impact every week on AMC. For showtimes and more information, visit TNA wrestling.com these days it seems like AI agents are just about everywhere you turn. Every field and every function. But without identity, you can't trust they'll serve your business instead of jeopardizing it. Fortunately, Okta helps you get identity right by securing your AI agents identities, giving you a single layer of control, a single standard of trust. So whether an AI agent supports a single user or your entire enterprise, with Okta you'll turn risk into opportunity. Secure every agent. Secure any agent. Okta secures AI.

[Buck Sexton]

Hey, Buck.

One of my kids called me an unk the other day. An unk.

Yep.

Slaying, evidently. For not being hip, being an old dude. So how do we un unk you? Get more people to subscribe to our YouTube channel. At least that's what my kids tell me. That's simple enough. Just search the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show and hit the subscribe button.

Takes less than five seconds to help.

Un unk me. Do it for clay, do it for freedom. And get great content while you're there. The Clay Travis and buck Sexton Show YouTube channel. We've got a bunch of calls. Let's do the calls thing now. Let's see here. Bob in Louisiana, what's going on? Bob, good morning. How are you, sir? I'm great, sir. Thank you for calling.

[Clay Travis]

Terrific.

[Buck Sexton]

This morning's discussion, I think. And also when I heard the heard the beginning or the first interpretation of what happened today at scotus, I was reminded something that Stalin said. And I think it's very important for us all, all Americans to know this and to be very concerned about it. Because Stalin said, those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything. We've got to be very careful about what's happening in our country and what we're allowing to happen with our vote. So, Bob, can I give you a one, I agree with the sentiment. Two, as somebody who's read a few Stalin biographies, that's actually a misattribution. Stalin never said that in the historical record. The closest thing to it comes from the memoirs of his former secretary, Boris Bazanov that Stalin said at a Communist party meeting. I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote or how. But what is extraordinarily important is who will count the votes. So it's not really an exact quote and the sourcing is a little sketch.

This July 4th, come celebrate at America's Block Party. Hosted by America 250, America's Block Party is a can't miss 4th of July concert happening at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.

[Clay Travis]

Experience music, performances by major artists, parents, patriotic tributes, and the kickoff to giving 4th, helping to make July 4th the largest day of giving in American history.

[Buck Sexton]

It's more than just fireworks.

[Clay Travis]

Join this landmark celebration and get your America's Block Party Tickets now for $17.76 at america250.org LA mom, can I have Lingokids? Dad? Lingokids, please.

[Buck Sexton]

When did we become the Lingokids house?

[Clay Travis]

No idea. Last week it was dinosaurs. This week it's Lingokids.

[Buck Sexton]

Why Lingokids?

[Clay Travis]

Because it's the best thing ever. We can play games with astronauts, wild animals and superheroes.

[Buck Sexton]

With more than 4,000 interactive games, songs and shows, LingoKids is the number one entertainment platform for young kids.

[Clay Travis]

So no dinosaurs and dinosaurs.

[Buck Sexton]

Lingokids. Everything kids love, download it for free.

They track, they target. That hotel, those shoes, your searches, your clicks. Every time you come back, prices can change. When websites know you want something, look again and all of a sudden it costs more and they saw you coming. Startpage, the private search engine, helps keep what you look up online from becoming a price tag. Nothing saved, nothing to use against you. What you search for is your business. Try StartPage, the private search [e-mail] that's startpage.com

[Commercial Announcer]

Professional wrestling fans, the action continues every week. Watch TNA Thursday Night Impact every week AMC.

[Buck Sexton]

It is like electricity blowing through your veins.

[Commercial Announcer]

Don't miss the adrenaline, the drama and the total non stop action.

[Buck Sexton]

No one can ever be as good as this right here.

[Commercial Announcer]

Don't miss the action of TNA Thursday Night Impact every week on AMC. For showtimes and more information, visit TNA wrestling.com these days it seems like AI agents are just about everywhere you turn, every field and every function. But without identity, you can't trust they'll serve your business instead of jeopardizing it. Fortunately, Okta helps you get identity right by securing your AI agents identities, giving you a single layer of control, a single standard of trust. So whether an AI agent supports a single user or your entire enterprise, with Okta you'll turn risk into opportunity. Secure every agent, secure any agent. Okta secures AI.