Hour 1 - Get Ready to VOTE

Summary

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 1 - Get Ready to VOTE
Date: October 28, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton focus on the imminent 2025 elections, with particular attention to high-stakes local races in New Jersey, Virginia, and New York City. The discussion centers on the political spotlight in NYC, where the potentially radical policies of mayoral candidate Zoran Mamdani come under sharp scrutiny. Interspersed with personal anecdotes and signature humor, the hosts also touch on timely topics such as food stamps fraud, government shutdown politics, and the efficacy of progressive government programs. Throughout, they invite listeners to reflect on the direction of local and national governance as voting day approaches.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Countdown to the 2025 Elections and Civic Engagement

• Voter Urgency:

  • Clay Travis opens with a direct call to action:

    "One week exactly. Exactly until we are officially on the election day of 2025. New Jersey go vote. Virginia go vote. New York City Go vote." (02:25)

  • He shares his own experience voting for alderman, emphasizing local elections' significance.

• Political Stakes:

  • Clay hints at the critical nature of this year’s elections, noting enthusiasm and high projected turnout, especially in NYC.

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2. New York City Mayoral Race: Spotlight on Zoran Mamdani

• Critique of Mamdani's Background and Integrity:

  • Clay Travis expresses incredulity at Mamdani’s rise, labeling him “a more transparent liar” and “shape-shifting amoeba.”
    • "He's 35 years old, never really done anything of any significance in his life, was raised in UGANDA, and unbelievably, 24 years after 9/11, we really have hit the Norm MacDonald joke..." (04:41)

• Controversial Islamophobia Anecdote:

  • Mamdani’s shifting story about his “aunt” fearing to wear a hijab after 9/11 is dissected.

    "He now says it wasn't his aunt, it was actually his father's cousin." (04:41) "[Mamdani:] I was speaking about my aunt. I was speaking about Zarafui, my father's cousin sadly passed away a few years ago..." (07:17)

• Buck Sexton's Analysis:

  • Buck draws parallels to the Jussie Smollett incident:

    "This is the Jussie Smollett. How dare you question me when I'm caught in my lie, sir? Well, yeah, actually that's how this works.” (07:59)

  • He challenges the premise of widespread Islamophobia after 9/11:

    "There was so little actual Islamic bigotry on display here after 9/11... They still have to make up stories like this Zoran Mamdani." (08:24)

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3. Unpacking Mamdani’s Radical Statements and Policy Positions

• Quotes and Positions:

  • Clay and Buck highlight Mamdani’s past remarks that have resurfaced during the campaign.
    • On NYPD and IDF:

      "[Mamdani:] We have to make clear that when the boot of the NYPD is on your neck, it's been laced by the IDF." (11:41)

    • On policing:

      "[Mamdani:] We need to defund these institutions... We do not need police to be in these places. They do not create safety. We need to take this money, defund the NYPD and refund the people." (12:57)

• Clay’s Commentary:

  "He's a shape-shifting amoeba. That is just an actor more than anything else..." (13:24)

• Electoral Cynicism and Voter Rationalizations:

  • Buck critiques Andrew Cuomo’s lackluster campaign, arguing that voters rationalize Mamdani’s past radicalism by assuming he has “apologized” and will maintain moderate public figures:

    "He’ll keep Jessica Tisch in her role as NYPD commissioner... But how long does he keep her in that role?" (13:37)

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4. The Role of Media, Adversarial Feedback, and Political Realities

• Listener Feedback:

  • Buck plays a “salty” podcast listener message calling Clay out on his campaign commentary, injecting levity and underscoring audience engagement. (21:31)

• Curtis Sliwa Endorsement & Guest Tease:

  • Clay references the upcoming appearance of Curtis Sliwa and his willingness to uphold a bet by wearing a red beret if Sliwa wins. (22:42)

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5. National Issues: Government Shutdown, Food Stamps, and Policy Effectiveness

• Shutdown Politics:

  • Clay covers Senate developments and alleges that Democrats are keeping the government closed as an election tactic:

    "I think the calculus clearly is that Democrats have decided they want the government shut down, maybe to help juice turnout…" (24:16)

• Food Stamps/SNAP Critique:

  • Buck provides statistics: 40 million Americans are on food stamps, with an estimated $11-12 billion in fraud.
  • Clay and Buck question the real need vs. abuse in the food stamp program, tying it to broader cultural and health issues like obesity:

    "If you could wave a magic wand in this society, do you think we have a bigger issue in America with obesity or with starvation?" (29:42)

• Failed Progressive Interventions:

  • The hosts revisit Michelle Obama’s “food desert” initiatives, pointing out their lack of impact on consumers’ choices.

    "They were not able to statistically in any way measure any change in the buying habits..." (33:36)

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6. Mamdani and Government-Run Businesses: Economic Realities

• Groceries and Central Planning:

  • The hosts explain why government-run grocery stores fail, citing business realities and New York-specific logistical challenges:

    "They had those in the Soviet Union. It did not work out well. They have them in Cuba now..." (34:12)

  • Clay lays out why public sector-run businesses in NYC face insurmountable operational hurdles.

• Broader Economic Cause & Effect:

  • Buck details how regulatory policies in NYC (e.g., parking, green initiatives) end up as hidden taxes, raising overall costs for residents.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “He's a theater kid, cosplaying radical, and so it's totally normal for him to make up the story of the aunt who... was the one who was too scared to ride the subway with her hijab. Give me a break, dude.”
  —Buck Sexton (09:53)

• “We have to make clear that when the boot of the NYPD is on your neck, it’s been laced by the IDF.”
  —Zoran Mamdani, clip played by Clay (11:41)

• “If you see what people are buying with food stamps…I see it in my grocery store. I shop, people using EBT cards…they’re getting soda and potato chips. People can say, ‘oh, that’s so classist,’ but that’s what they’re buying.”
  —Buck Sexton (29:21)

• “If you could wave a magic wand in this society, do you think we have a bigger issue in America with obesity or with starvation?”
  —Clay Travis (29:42)

• On government-run groceries:
  “They have them in Cuba now to get meat. Every now and then you will see video of all the people in Cuba lining up to try to go into their government run stores. They're never anything on the shelves.”
  —Clay Travis (34:12)

• Listener feedback:
  "Clay, I don't think my mayoral campaign's going very well, Buck..." (22:01)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Opening/Election Urgency: 02:25
• NYC Mayoral Spotlight—Mamdani Critique: 04:41
• Islamophobia Story Discussion and Scepticism: 07:17–09:53
• Mamdani’s Radical Statements (NYPD, IDF, Defund the Police): 11:41–12:57
• Commentary on Cuomo Campaign and Voter Rationalization: 13:24–15:29
• Listener Feedback Segment: 21:31
• Government Shutdown & Senate Dynamics: 24:16
• Food Stamp Fraud & Obesity Discussion: 26:53–29:42
• Food Desert Policy Failure: 31:14–33:36
• Government-Run Grocery Stores & Economic Realities: 34:12–37:29

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Tone and Style

The episode is fast-paced, irreverent, and opinionated, with Clay and Buck combining news analysis, cultural critique, and wry humor. They challenge progressive orthodoxies, highlight left-wing political strategies, and urge their audience to participate energetically in civic life.

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Closing Notes

The hour closes with a look ahead to further discussion on Mamdani’s influences, more campaign analysis, and upcoming guest Riley Gaines. The hosts promise continued scrutiny of radicalism on the left, connected by their broader theme of the 2025 elections as a crucial inflection point for the country.

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Transcript

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay and Buck. One week exactly. Exactly until we are officially on the election day of 2025. New Jersey go vote. Virginia go vote. New York City Go vote. I know there are other elections taking place. I voted for alderman today in my town of Franklin, Tennessee. So a lot of different Aspects underway as we move into the election season of 2025. And in particular, by the way, we'll talk with our friend Riley Gaines, who AOC decided to attack out of nowhere over swimming. I, I sometimes I text. Was texting with Riley yesterday when this happened that a lot of these attacks seem like gifts because so many of the people that are attacking Riley for just saying men shouldn't be involved in women's sports. I can't believe that this has become such Democrat Party orthodoxy that AOC would decide kind of out of nowhere to just start tweeting at Riley Gaines angrily about her past swimming successes.

[Buck Sexton]

Speaking of swimming, I went for a rare dip in the Atlantic Ocean, technically Biscayne Bay, over the weekend. And right around the same time there was in fact a shark attack.

[Zoran Mamdani (clip speaker)]

Clay.

[Clay Travis]

Yes. 46 year old guy got attacked. You sent me the link and I was looking at it and I mean, can you imagine if you had gotten attacked by a shark after all our sh. This is why I don't want our shark discussion.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm just saying, this is, this is. I'm starting to worry about your Alcatraz swim a little bit here, buddy, which we've already committed to. And I'm going to be in that launch boat cheering you on nice and warm with my Crockett hot cocoa. We were going to start making by then, but this guy, I believe was snorkeling and it looked like he tried to touch the shark, which is a bad idea.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, well, that's very, very different.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, it was not a predatory attack. It was a leave me alone bite on the hand and he had to go to the hospital. But technically a shark attack. Not far from where I was swimming.

[Clay Travis]

On Sunday, I was walking into church. This is 100% true. Guy I had not met before comes up and he says that he is part of a long distance swimming team and they have been hearing us talk about he had swam Catalina, he had swam from Alcatraz, and they do regular long training sessions and he was offering his skill set and his team to me as a training companion. This is, I mean, legitimately, as I am walking into church on Sunday, this gentleman I'd never met before came up and he wanted me to, to know that he had my back on the swims and that he and the team were ready to assist as necessary. And I told him, I said, well, I'm kind of getting a little bit terrified, not of the swim, but that I'm tempting fate and I'm going to be eaten by a shark and he told me that I would be fine. So I hope he's right. But yeah, you, you narrowly avoided attack on a, on a swim in Biscayne Bay. Speaking of attack, Buck, I cannot believe that New York City is really going to elect Zoran Momdani. And the more videos I watch, the more deep dive I do on his life story. I'm not sure there has ever been a more transparent liar that has accomplished nothing in his life that is poised for an election victory. Like Mamdani is 35 years old, never really done anything of any significance in his life, was raised in UGANDA, and unbelievably, 24 years after 9 11, we really have hit the Norm MacDonald joke where everyone now says, oh, can you imagine on the left the Islamophobia that so many victims of 911 had to deal with? And mom, Donnie claimed to have an aunt that was afraid to wear her hijab on the New York City Metro after the 911 terror attack. And now after it was pointed out that the ant story couldn't possibly have been true, he now says it wasn't his aunt, it was actually his father's cousin who passed away a few years ago. This is after he was caught in the lie on an aunt. Let's play this cut to please.

[Zoran Mamdani (clip speaker)]

I was speaking about my aunt. I was speaking about Zarafui, my father's cousin sadly passed away a few years ago. And for the takeaway from my more than 10 minute address about Islamophobia in this race and in this city, to be the question of my aunt tells you everything about Andrew Cuomo.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, why does that. I mean if, if I said to you, Buck, something that, I mean, I've got two aunts, they're both deceased, but if I said something very specific about their life story at a point in my political career, it wouldn't be unfair for people to say, okay, tell me about these ants of yours.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes, he made, he made it an issue. This is the Jussie Smollett. How dare you question me when I'm caught in my lie, sir? Well, yeah, actually that's how this works. A few things on this clay. One is the lack of. First of Islamophobia is a nonsense term. I think Christopher Hitchens once said it's like a nonsense term used, you know, used by thugs to silence idiots or something like that. It was essentially the whole point of Islamophobia is to create some word that shuts down criticism of aspects of a faith that now has about 2 billion adherents worldwide and is Certainly something that people should be allowed to discuss. Phobia is an irrational fear of. There was a period of time where there was plenty of rational fear of radicalized elements from within the Islamic world. And by the way, there still is plenty of rational discussion to be had, plenty of about elements of the Islamic world that are a problem for Western civilization and for the state of Israel, for America, for a whole bunch of things. Ok. But putting that aside for a second, couple of things. One is, I mentioned this yesterday. It is to America's extreme credit that there was so little to the American people, There was so little actual Islamic bigotry on display here after 9 11. Given the scope, scale of those attacks and the continued attacks that happened, this is something that gets lost in this discussion, Clay. There were further jihadist mass murders of Americans that went on for the better part of two decades here. It's kind of slowed down in the last few years, but it was a regular thing. Oh, another. Another, you know, bomb goes off somewhere or someone's run down 10 people for no reason in the street in a mass murder attack. And so with all of that going on, and we had multiple wars and counterinsurgency operations going on against Islamist elements and a, you know, billions and billions of dollars spent on security. We effectively have airport security lines because of Islamic radicalism. Thanks. Islamic radicalism. With all of that, they still have to make up stories like this Zoran Mamdani. He's not telling a story about something that would be truly horrific and wrong. You know, oh, my gosh. The. The firebombing of a mosque that occurred on, you know, in Brooklyn, right? No, none of that happened. But he's a theater kid, cosplaying radical, and so it's totally normal for him to make up the story of the aunt who, among hundreds of thousands of Muslims in New York City, was the one who was too scared to ride the subway with her hijab. Give me a break, dude. Clay, the guy's a fake and he's a phony, but the people voting for him don't care.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, well, let me hit you with a couple of more clips that continue to get attention. Um, this is in September of 2023. I know most of you know this, but maybe you've got friends or family out there. I just saw a report, Buck, that New York City's mayoral race is on track for the highest turnout since 1993. That was the Rudy Giuliani win. So wor people in New York City are woken up. There is a lot of enthusiasm. There's a lot of interest here. Let me play a couple of these cuts from Mamdani. This is September of 2023. We have to make clear, this is a quote, that when the boot of the NYPD is on your neck, it's been laced by the IDF. This is Mamdani again, cut 3, September 2023.

[Zoran Mamdani (clip speaker)]

The importance for me of international solidarity is that it takes me out of the American political landscape and reminds me just how tame some of the things are that I'm actually calling for. And it reminds me of the necessity of grounding ourselves in the struggles as opposed to the fights around the startups. For anyone to care about these issues, we have to make them hyper local. We have to make clear that when the boot of the NYPD is on your neck, it's been laced by the idf. We are in a country where those connections abound, especially in New York City. You have so many opportunities to make clear the ways in which that struggle over there is tied to capital's interest over here.

[Clay Travis]

Okay, let me play one more buck. And again, he said, when the NYPD boot is on your throat, it has been laced by the IDF. Here he is in 2020 saying, we don't need police, they don't create safety. We need to take the money and defund the NYPD. This is about as direct as you can be. Cut 33.

[Zoran Mamdani (clip speaker)]

We need to defund these institutions. And I say that as somebody who has grown up in this city, who has seen what these cops can do and who has seen the ways in which that police have been integrated into every part of our lives, that we had them in our high school, so we had them in our middle schools. We do not need police to be in these places. They do not create safety. We need to take this money, defund the NYPD and refund the people.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, this is pretty straightforward. The guy has told you what at least he thought was popular at the time, which is he's a shape shifting amoeba. That is just a. An actor more than anything else, I.

[Buck Sexton]

Think here's the truth, Clay. It's like when they hit him with all these ads. All Cuomo is run. Cuomo's run a garbage campaign relative to what it should have been. For a guy who you can tell that he's a Nepo baby who became governor because daddy was governor and he has a big. He has a last name that New York has recognized. He was a horrible governor, by the way. He's not a good campaigner. He's Actually not a talented politician. He has not run a good campaign in the city of New York at all. And as I've said, if Mamdani is an F as mayor in waiting, Cuomo is maybe a C minus. Better. Better, but not great. Not great at all. And I think that the attacks on Mamdani, saying he doesn't have enough experience, the people voting for him don't care, and the attacks on Mamdani that you and I are now leveling, which is that he's clearly a woke radical leftist who is anti cop at his core. Clay, they've already gotten around this by saying, you know, he believed that, then he's apologized. He'll keep Jessica Tisch in her role as NYPD commissioner, whom everyone respects and, by the way, people do respect. But how long does he keep her in that role? And does he allow her to actually do the job the way she wants to? Does she end up resigning in a year in frustration because she's handcuffed, so to speak, from doing the job the way that she should, even if she's kept in that role? But, Clay, that requires a degree of political wisdom, insight, and foresight that you and I and all of you with us now have, but the Mandani voters don't. They're just going to excuse whatever they have to excuse. And by the way, a lot of them think that he's just fooling some of the normies and is still every bit the radical. And they like that. Right? So, yeah, you know. You know, we're. We're preaching to the choir on how anti Copy is, but they're playing this game very well. In the Momdani campaign, we will play.

[Clay Travis]

Another couple of cuts, including Momdani's dad saying that Hitler learned everything he knows from Abraham Lincoln. Again, these are direct news to Abraham.

[Buck Sexton]

Lincoln, which is the most amazing thing. Abra Abe would be like, whoa, I didn't know that. I learned everything. Or rather that I, you know, taught.

[Clay Travis]

That he was the inspiration for Nazi Dom. According to Mamdani's dad, this is what he's been raised to believe. And this race, again, there's data out there that suggest that we may be headed for the highest turnout in a mayoral race since. Since 1993. So maybe there is hope that I could be wearing a red beret for a week. On the program. Uh, Curtis Lee was gonna join us tomorrow and make the case for why I'm a moron. Um, and some of you have already signed onto that. We'll play some fun feedback on that. Uh, look, Having a lifeline during an emergency is key. Rapid Radios can be that lifeline. These are modern day walkie talkies. They work on a nationwide LTE network. Rapid Radios will keep you connected to family members, particularly when you experience service disrupt caused by natural disasters or power outages. They're small, they fit in the palm of your hand, they're easy to use. Just press a button and boom. You can talk to anyone anywhere in the US that's also carrying one. Rapid Radios has a battery that lasts for up to five days. This holiday, give a gift that keeps you connected to the people you love. No monthly fees, no complicated setup, just pre programmed reliable communication when it counts. Because when everything else goes silent, Rapid Radios won't go to rapidradios.com make sure you and your family always have a way of staying connected. That's Rapid Radios.com saving America one thought at a time. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.

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Start your 7 day free trial today. Offers are subject to change. Go to Fox one for complete terms and conditions. Fox one we live for live streaming now. All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We're deep diving into the big mayoral race in New York City because the whole country is looking to see if Commie momdani can pull this thing out or if Cuomo is going to be a mayor who is perhaps better than a governor because he was a horrible governor. We will get into all of that here. And also I just want to note Clay, see in the eastern Pacific. So really the Pacific Ocean off the coast of Mexico because the Pacific Ocean, so you say strikes in the Pacific, it's like, what are we off the coast of Guam here? The Pacific's a very big place. Off the coast of Mexico, three now three ships blown up by American military. Drug cartel ships basically go fast. Boats laden with fentanyl blown up. And I believe 14, 14 killed it. And in those ships.

[Clay Travis]

We're at the point now, Buck, where I don't think there's anyone who is involved in transit of drugs on shipping boats in that area that isn't thinking constantly. This could be the last moment of my life when they're on those boats.

[Buck Sexton]

We're going to talk more about that because this is a, this is obviously a major escalation. But on the Momdani, bringing us back to this Momdani discussion, some very astute analysis coming in via the talkbacks. Here is a female podcast listener, A.A. who has a message that I haven't heard yet for Clay, but I'm told it is salty.

[Clay Travis]

Absolutely absurd.

[Buck Sexton]

There has to be a Republican fighting, fighting, fighting for New York.

[Clay Travis]

What are you thinking about? You. Clay, I don't think. Clay, you. I don't think. I don't think my mayoral campaign's going very well. Buck, that is. What was her name? Do we know a name there?

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

Did not give her name. But I'm telling you, buddy, you better stay out of fall Rockaway, out of Sheepshead Bay, Staten Island. You know, you better not go for a long. A long walk in Ron Konkoma. You know, people are upset with you right now, buddy. You know, they. They usually love the Clay Travis and the five boroughs and Nassau county, but right now, I don't know. Getting salty.

[Clay Travis]

Look, I will wear my red beret with pride if Curtis Lewa wins and we're going to continue to attack, attack mom, Donnie, because he is an awful choice. And Curtis Lewa is going to be on with us tomorrow. As Buck has said, Cuomo has not run a good campaign and he's put himself in this position. The Democrats have put themselves in this position. So I'm going to play a cut. Listen to what this guy is saying. He's not lying to you. I don't think he's a left winger the likes of which we have never seen getting this close to major office.

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in on shutdown watch for the 13th time, a Republican bill seeking to reopen the government has been blocked by Senate Democrats. The defectors. Just to kind of keep you updated as the lockdown shutdown continues, John Fetterman, Cortez Masto from Nevada, I believe, and King, one of the senators from Maine, voted in favor of it. That's three Democrats and that gets us to 56. Meaning in order to effectively open the government, we need 60 votes. And if my math is correct, we are still four short of being able to do that. And so this is something that I think continues to, to play itself out at this point. Buck, I think the calculus clearly is that Democrats have decided they want the government shut down, maybe to help juice turnout in what they believe are must win governor's races in New Jersey and in Virginia. And so I don't think anything's going to change till after November 4. I also think that after November 4, the question becomes, as we come up on Thanksgiving, are they going to reopen anything prior to Thanksgiving? And part of me just thinks the answer is going to be no. Now Trump is in Japan. I don't know if we mentioned that off the top, but he remains in Asia. And I just don't think there's a lot of pressure being brought to bear to get anything to change. So that is the reality of where we are.

[Buck Sexton]

Democrats have decided that absent an actual message, absent a political platform to try to counter and be constructive in what they would offer as governance, they just are going for full on sabotage. And to your point about how the election's coming up, this certainly is a huge part of really all of, I would say the calculations that Democrats are making right now. Food stamps are about to run out. I know we're supposed to call it a snap now. It has a catchy title, Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program, Food stamps, free food for people, Food welfare is really what it is that is about to shut down, meaning that they're going to run out of money for this. And so far there is no contingency in place for it. So there are, this is amazing, clay. There are 40 million people in this country who are on food stamps.

[Clay Travis]

This is, this is an honest question. How many of those people do you think actually need food stamps in order to be able to successfully live? And the reason I asked that question is I, my suspicion is that the food stamp world is rife with tons of corruption and we've just allowed it to expand and expand. And many of the people that are on food stamps are actually morbidly obese, which means they're not actually struggling to feed themselves. Right. Like, there isn't a deep well.

[Buck Sexton]

It's not a calorie deficit, it. That anyone is in. Well, this also goes to the way, remember, you were lied to, all of you. You were lied to by the New York Times and others when they said that there was mass starvation in Gaza. Just to be clear, there was no mass star. There was no starvation period. No one was starving. There was what they call food insecurity and nutritional deficiency, which one, I think probably existed in Gaza before the war to the nutritional deficiency part of it. And two, Clay, something like 40 million Americans in this country are considered food insecure. They're on food stamps. So there's all these ways that they. Starvation is a horrific. One of the most horrific things that a human being can suffer through. It's a very specific thing, which is not enough food for your function, for your system to function, and it will kill you. Not having, you know, whatever food you want in whatever quantity you want is a different problem, a different thing. And to your point about obesity and the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program, there's always this fight over, well, can it cover soda? Can it cover effectively just sugar and empty calories? We have a huge type 2 diabetes problem along with the obesity problem. Those things go hand in hand in this country. But we. The actual program estimates, Clay, that it's about 11 or 12 billion dollars of just straight fraud in that program. Yeah, 11 or 12 billion. And that's what the government thinks. So what the real number is, who knows? But beyond that, the fact that we are the wealthiest country in the world and we have 40 million people on food stamps is indicative of something. It's indicative of a dependency that the government has created and fostered with no end in sight. And that's not a good thing.

[Clay Travis]

Correct.

[Buck Sexton]

We have more than enough calories for everybody. There's more than enough ways to get food for everybody. And if you see what people are buying with food stamps in a lot of, you know, you see people. I see it in my grocery store. I shop people using EBT cards and they're. They're getting soda and potato chips.

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[Buck Sexton]

And people can say, oh, that's so classist, or something, but that's what they're buying.

[Clay Travis]

Well, here's an easy question. If you could wave a magic wand in this society, do you think we have a bigger issue in America with obesity or with starvation? Would anyone say that we have an issue with starvation in America or obesity? Like, if you could wave a magic wand and solve one of those things, which would be the healthier thing to be able to solve. If we cut obesity in half in this country, Buck, I bet our overall medical cost would decline by half as well, right? Obesity is a huge signifier of significant health related issues. So if you were out there right now and I gave you a magic wand and I said you can, there are lots of countries, by the way, where you would say, oh no, we 100% need to address starvation. There are people who have truly not enough food to be able to survive. That is not this country. We have so much food, in fact, that our bigger issue is we have way too many fat people relative to the overall population. And a lot of those people are using, to your point, these, these food stamp policies to go and buy super unhealthy food that makes them unhealthier. And we're all subsidizing it. And you can argue, okay, well why would you, you know, freedom of. They should be able to buy anything they want with their food stamp, but we're subsidizing it. So I do think it's worth asking as taxpayers, is this a, is this a, a policy? Is this a program that is getting good value?

[Buck Sexton]

I know, I promise we'll come back to commie mom, Donnie. But this actually goes to a lot of things because he's talking about grocery stores, for example, and how we need to have city, city run grocery stores that have the basically don't run for their nonprofits. They've tried this just to be clear, in different places they have pilot programs. It's always a disaster. Guess what you find out? Nobody in the city run grocery store cares if the shore, if the shelves are bare. Nobody cares if the produce actually looks good. Nobody cares because no one's making any money. And they get paid the same whether there's bread on the shelves or not. But even beyond that, a little trip down memory lane. Cuz I found this fascinating because this affected New York City way back in the day. The Obama administration, Clay, remember Michelle Obama's let's move campaign there was along with that when she was first lady. I'm taking you back a decade, folks. There was a food desert, a whole food desert thing. You know, you don't hear that term very much anymore. And the whole premise of the food desert was low income people. They're obviously not starving. Right? To your point, it's not that there's no food, but they don't have access to lean, lean cuts of steak and, and Organic salads and, and the, you know, these things that are generally considered more kind of upper end income lifestyle food choices. So they created this pilot program where not only did they bring in farmer's market produce into New York City, New York Times had all these stories on this. The reason, there's a reason, I'm gonna tell you why you don't hear about this anymore. Farmers market produce into all of these different cities or all of these different stores, rather subsidized it. Clay. The government said we're gonna make this artificial.

[Clay Travis]

We want you to make healthier choices. So we're gonna make the healthier choices cheaper.

[Buck Sexton]

So they truck the food into these low income neighborhoods. There's a whole PR campaign around letting people know, hey, you can get all the artisanal wildflower honey you want. Now you know, they're telling everybody in low income neighborhoods of New York and bring it so it's artificially cheaper. So now it's not, oh, I have to get like the off brand potato chips because they're. Now it's oh my gosh, I can. Do you know how much they were able to change the buying habits in these neighborhoods?

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[Buck Sexton]

They were not able to statistically in any way measure any change in the buying habits of. So unless you're going to force feed low income people the quote healthy, organic, blah, blah, all that stuff, they just want to eat what they want to eat. But I think there's very important lessons here about the free market and about economics and choice and central planning. And you look at someone like Mamdani, he's saying, I want to set up government owned grocery stores. Clay. They had those in the Soviet Union. It did not work out well. They have them in Cuba now to get meat.

[Clay Travis]

They have them in Cuba. Every now and then you will see video of all the people in Cuba lining up to try to go into their government run stores. They're never anything on the shelves. And this is again, this goes to a just complete failure to understand basic business. If you were going to go in business, a grocery store, and many of you out there have been involved in this in the past, has one of the tiniest profit margins of any business. It is a high volume, low profit based business. One reason if you walk around and you look at grocery store shelves that grocery stores themselves produce generic versions of Doritos or generic versions of soda is because that's much higher profit margin than the, the brand name, so to speak out there. And it is just, it's akin to someone saying as sometimes you will hear, oh, these gas stations, the price of gas, they're. They're making so much money. And you say, wait a minute. You realize gas stations make almost no money on gas, right? It is a loss leader. Very often, as many of you who have run gas stations know, the way that gas stations make profit is typically off of the store. So when you walk inside and you buy products, you buy a drink, or you buy a lottery ticket, or you buy something in a gas station, that's how the business is run. And so when you have people like Mandani and Buck, you know this better than anybody. But one of the toughest places to be bringing product into is New York City because the streets are narrow, like, the trucks are complicated. The cost of bringing in all that product and trying to deliver it to so many different stores. It is one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard from a politician, that they're going to make groceries more affordable by getting the government in the grocery business.

[Buck Sexton]

And you have. You have the green energy, you know, climate change maniacs who have decided that we can't have any more places to park, and we have fewer. Fewer lanes, and we're gonna force people onto buses. And now we're gonna, if Mamdani wins, gonna have buses with no fare. So they're just gonna be traveling homeless terminals that smell like urine and God knows what else. And they do all this clay, and what happens? And this is, again, the cause and effect reality of central planning by commie morons there. People would be staggered to know how many parking tickets are written every day in Manhattan in particular, and how that actually becomes a tax on all businesses. Because to get your deliveries, all of your delivery guys for all of your restaurants and all of your supermarkets and everything are constantly getting tickets that go to the city of New York. And so there's an addition that's just a tax because it raises the cost of delivering food, it raises the cost of delivering goods and services. All of this made worse by people in City hall in New York, and by the way, any Democrat city across the country that's following a similar playbook. It's all made worse by their decisions all the time. All they do is make things worse most of the time. I mean, that's really what you see. And Mamdani is certainly going to be somebody who falls into that category. It's. It's very frustrating.

[Clay Travis]

You know what is not frustrating? The fact that yesterday was the Equinox. I was talking with our team here. You know, game three was Game three, right? Game three of the World Series last night I wasn't watching. I went to bed. It went on until 2:50am Eastern. So if you're listening to us on the east coast and your eyes feel a little bleary, it might be because, like producer Mike here, you stood up, stayed up all night to be able to watch this game, and that is absolutely bonkers. But it ended on a Freddie Freeman home run. Freddie Freeman, first baseman for the Dodgers. Dodgers are up 21 in the world Series against Toronto and right now you can get hooked up. Whether you love Major League Baseball, whether you love the NHL, NBA, NFL, college football. I'm going to give you an NFL pick on Thursday and you can play along and you get $50 when you play $5 at price picks. You can play in California, Texas, Florida, Georgia, all over the country. If you're feeling left out, Prize Picks is there for you to have a little bit more Fun with sports. Prizepix.com Code Clay that is prizepix.com Code clay get hooked up today pricepix.com Code clay for $50 California, Texas, Florida, Georgia get hooked up today with Price picks Patriots radio hosts A couple of regular guys, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

Start your 7 day free trial today. Offers are subject to change. Go to Fox one for complete terms and conditions. Fox one we live for live streaming now. Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We got a quick turn here so we're going to tell you a few things where we're going to the next hour. One is we are going to play that clip of mom, Donnie's dad don't visit the sins of the father upon the son. I know this is what they're all going to say, but mom, Dani's dad saying some really, really bad stuff. And it's only relevant insofar as I think that Mandani believes this kind of stuff too. He's a radical leftist. He's a radical leftist. Notice how these radical leftists, when they want to get famous, they'll say all this crazy stuff when they want to build their support on the left and then Clay, when it comes to election time, like I'm not a radical.

[Clay Travis]

It is amazing.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm just a normal guy. Hello, fellow normies. I don't believe that Lenin was awesome and that we should just, you know, destroy capitalism. I'm like totally normal like you. I love Shark Tank. You know what I mean?

[Clay Travis]

It is, it is extraordinary how quickly they tried to disavow all the crazy things they said to become popular on the left. I mean, the nytd, NYPD boot on your throat is laced by the IDF is. I mean it is a crazy line. But this is the kind of thing he says that everybody cheers. And I think what you said is important here, Buck, because now what happens is he comes back and he says, well, I didn't really mean that. But all the people on the left who are Mamdani fans are quietly among themselves saying he's just saying that so he can get elected. Now he still believes what we do and we'll see whether or not he's capable of trying to put any of these policies in place if he wins. The best case scenario is actually he's incapable of doing any of this. Right.

[Buck Sexton]

I think that's a principle in Islam, in Islamist circles, from within Islam called taqiyah, where you are. It is not just morally permissible. You are obligated to lie if it is in furtherance of the jihad. Just saying it's a real thing. It's out there. So, so. But to your point, Clay, leftists have been doing taqiyah for as long as there's been a left. I mean they, whatever they gotta say, whatever they have to pretend, especially when it comes to election time, this is how they game democracy, right? This is how they get to the, you know, one, one vote, one man, one time. And that's the hope here, is that eventually they'll be able to control the whole system. But first, Mom, Donnie to see if he actually wins. Maybe there's a last minute Cuomo search. We will discuss this. We've also got Riley Gaines joining later. I'm going to challenge her to a doggy paddle contest because I think that's probably my best stroke. I think I got doggy paddle lined up. But we're going to get into that and we're going to play some stuff from. I'm Donnie. Some craziness. Also these strikes on the fentanyl boats, they're really doing this, folks. Like I said before, the war on drugs is not a metaphor anymore. It's a war on drugs. We'll talk about it.

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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