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Clay Travis
This is an iHeart podcast, Guaranteed Human. Welcome everybody, to the Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Strap in because we are taking off. We have a lot to discuss with you today. Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan is going to be joining us bottom of this hour. Michael Whatley, former RNC chair and North Carolina Senate candidate, joining in the second hour along with our friend Shannon Breen, chief legal correspondent at Fox News. She's got a new book out. We'll be talking to those fine folks and we will also be breaking down all of the latest news and analysis and important goings on for all of you. Big story still, biggest story, I should say, the ongoing airstrikes against the Iranian regime. Also some jitters people are having around the price of, of oil. So we're going to address all of this. Here is Secretary of War Hegseth at a press conference this morning promising everyone that we're just getting warmed up with all this stuff. It's going to get even more intense. Play three.
Pete Hegseth
Today will be yet again our most intense day of strikes inside Iran. The most fighters, the most bombers, the most strikes. Intelligence more refined and better than ever. So that's on one hand. On the other hand, the last 24 hours have seen Iran fire the lowest number of missiles they've been capable of firing yet. Just the bifurcation, just the trend lines that we talked about on our first briefing. You see, this is not 2003. This is not endless nation building under those types of quagmires we saw under Bush or Obama. It's not even close. Our generation of soldier will not let that happen again. And nor will this president who very clearly ran against those kinds of never ending, nebulously scoped missions.
Clay Travis
So he is saying that everything is going according to plan. We are essentially kicking the Iranian military's ass with one arm behind our back from the sky entirely. And this is going to continue and get more intense as the days go on that we will not relent. Trump last night speaking at Doral, he was down here in the Miami area near, near where I am. Here he is. This is cut six. He's saying, look, we are making strides toward achieving what we need to in Iran. Play six.
Donald Trump
We're achieving major strides toward completing our military objective. And some people could say they're pretty well complete. We've wiped every single force in Iran out very completely. Most of Iran's naval power power has been sunk. It's on the bottom of the sea. It's almost 50 ships. I was just notified it's 51 ships. I didn't know they had that many. Didn't last very long. And these are fighting vessels. They're meant to fight, but they're not meant to fight against us. We've struck over 5,000 targets to date, some of them very major targets. And we've left some of the most important targets for later in case we need to do it. If we hit them, it's going to take many years for them to be rebuilt, having to do with electricity production and many other things. So we're not looking to do that if we don't have to.
Clay Travis
Clay it seems like the strategy is bomb them back into the Stone Age, so to speak, and wait until they cry uncle and come up with I don't know what. That's the, that's the big question that I have. What is supposed to emerge here? Unconditional surrender, but contingent on what? Even if they were to say it, what are the next steps supposed to be? This gets to who's going to run this country? Because Pete Hegseth is saying very clearly and Trump has said the same, we're not going to be sending 20 year olds from Kansas and Maine and Washington State, et cetera, and Texas and everywhere to walk the streets of Isfahan, Kermanshah, Tehran and Tabriz. Not happening.
Buck Sexton
I think we're in a balancing act where who is the person we want to be in charge in Iran? That is the one thing that we really haven't gotten any indication of. Now simultaneously, I understand that why that is, because as soon as the United States acquiesces or acknowledges that Iran has got a leader we want to work with, that definitely puts political pressure on the individuals in Iran too. Do you remember, Buck, how the Delsey Rodriguez played out? Del C. Rodriguez and the reason why I point to this is I think it's the best analogy. Although obviously Venezuela and Iran are very different. But when Del C. Rodriguez came into power, she said a lot of tough talking things about the United States and many of our United States leaders just kind of said, okay, she's got to say that for political viability inside of Venezuela. But meanwhile we were having back channel conversations with her and she was basically letting us know what she had to do. Are we having back channel conversations with anyone in Iran that could rise to a level of power? That's a good question, right? Who are the people that Israel may have been working with to help get all of these targets that we were able to focus on and take out so quickly? All of those questions I think are still incumbent upon us to resolve. But I do think at a minimum, the message that we sent, even if we pulled out tomorrow, Buck, even if we said, hey, mission accomplished, we are out and we are going back and we're not going to continue to bomb Iran, we have sent the message and I think it's a very significant one, not only to Iran, but to everybody around the world, that we can basically take out any world leader that we want to. And so whomever comes to power in Iran, we can wipe that person out too. They know it, we know it, the world knows it. And so the question that I have is, to what extent is there someone that we are amenable to that could be rising to power and what is the timeframe under which that could occur? I think that that's the question that is still out there right now. I think the argument that we were going to lose tons of soldiers is out the window. I think the argument in the wake of the last day, Buck, this is one of the craziest things I've ever said. When we came on the air yesterday, everybody was in a full fledged panic over the price of oil and gas. It hit $120 on the market on Sunday before we came on the air. They open overseas, it's now $85. Now that's significant, but it's not that much of a bump. And the straight of four moves, it appears the oil is actually coming through fairly comfortably. We just haven't seen the spike that everybody said we were going to see. And I think we have the ability to exit this escalation whenever we want. And we have effectively neutered Iran for decades to come. In terms of the. They have no air force, they have no navy, they have no, they have no missiles. Largely their ability to even send off these drones has been significantly curtailed. I just, I look around, Buck, and say we're at the who is going to lead Iran stage of this military, of this military endeavor.
Clay Travis
The whole irgc, which we talked about a bit yesterday, is set up to be a decentralized and survivable security apparatus for a situation like this. This is the challenge that we have. So they've got the guns, they've got comms set up, they have down to a very localized level, terrain knowledge, human terrain knowledge. Basically, anyone who walks out of their home to start a protest in the street liable to just get shot by these either besieger or IRGC units. So what do we do about that? This is the, this is where things get a little open ended I'm not really sure what the plan is on this. We can keep blowing their military equipment out of the, out of the sky, but ultimately whoever has the most manpower with guns on the ground willing to fight is likely to be able to stay in control. It's also, by the way, big lesson about the Second Amendment, how important the Second Amendment is and armed citizenry. Right. Because they don't have that. The people with the guns are the government. That's it. Very few people in Iran are going to be able to get out there and get into a gun battle with members of the Iranian security forces. So with all that Clay, I think that the military side of this is showing incredible. Everything that Hegseth and Trump have been saying about this is true. It's been an amazing display of US Military capability. Does this go beyond this month? I don't think so. Does this end with US Troops on the ground? I don't think so. Does this end with a new government in Iran? I don't think so. That's where I come down on this one here. By the way. Here's Hegseth saying this morning, this cut four Clay. Just saying they're going to take this to the end until the enemy says we give up Play four, destroy their
Pete Hegseth
missile stockpiles, their missile launchers and their defense industrial base missiles and their ability to make them. Two, destroy their navy. And three, permanently deny Iran nuclear weapons forever. It's a laser focused maximum authority mission delivered with overwhelming and unrelenting precision. No hesitation, no half measures. As President Trump declared yesterday. We're crushing the enemy in an overwhelming display of technical skill and military force. We will not relent until the enemy is totally and decisively defeated. But we do so. We do so on our timeline and at our choosing.
Clay Travis
Sounds good. I hope we get there.
Buck Sexton
How many people do you think we in general, how many people do you think we have named that we would be okay with being leaders of Iran? How?
Clay Travis
I don't think we even have a list of. I don't think we even have a list of people that we think would be. We're hoping they emerge. That's my guess. Obviously, I've been out of the game a while. Maybe they've got someone just ready to go, but I would highly doubt it.
Buck Sexton
Do you think Israel does? Because it seems like they have basic full optics. It feels like on some level of inside of Iran and some of those.
Clay Travis
I think finding an Iranian who doesn't hate Israel, who has any political juice whatsoever inside of Iran is, I'm not sure it's possible.
Buck Sexton
It's very. I wonder whether you could publicly hate Israel, but privately have a relationship with Israel.
Clay Travis
I mean, maybe, like, maybe. Sure, sure.
Buck Sexton
That would be, that would be my hope is that we could find a, a solution in that way. And I think the long run here, look, if, if you want to tie Venezuela and Iran together, I think the long run is we should have more oil and gas stability going forward when this situation is ended than we did before. And when you combine it with the United States ability to produce a ton of oil and gas, you know this because this was a conversation that when you started working at the CIA, would have been a big one. The Middle Eastern countries, which basically had the ability to curtail oil and gas shipments. It led to a lot of petro dictator states. It feels to me like the petro dictator state power is altering in a way that is favorable to the United States in many respects.
Clay Travis
This is a reminder where any of you who know somebody who works for big oil in this country works for a natural gas company, an oil exploration company, you should give them a high five. Because America is the true global energy producer superpower, which has enormous, enormous geopolitical advantages for us in dealing with all of this. We got so much of that stuff that we're selling it all over the world. But we know we've got secure supply and we know that we are the single most important energy power, energy, energy producing power on the planet. That's, that's, that's how we come at this 100%.
Buck Sexton
That is the best decision we have made in a long time. And by the way, the states that have rejected that, if you're listening to us in California right now, you may well be paying well over $5 a gallon. Because California, which still to my knowledge Buck and I know we got a lot of oil and gas guys and gals out there, still has a lot of oil and gas, right? California has the ability to pump far more, even more. Instead they turned it off effectively because the greenhouse, the climate change, crazy people.
Clay Travis
How many Americans even know this really important trivia know you've got Saudi Arabia, you've got Russia, you know, you've got some of these countries. You know which country is the biggest oil producer in the world? America. It's America.
Buck Sexton
That stuns a lot of people. No, it does. I mean, it stuns people.
Clay Travis
We produce more crude oil than any other country. We've surpassed Saudi Arabia, we've surpassed Russia. And our oil industry has done this despite all the climate change which is a complete waste of time and an absurdity that no human being should ever waste three seconds concerned about anything else. But our oil industry is one of our biggest strategic assets as a nation. And yet Democrats trash them all the time and act like they're killing all of us. No, actually you should go thank an oil man today, or a woman if she happens to work in the oil industry. You should go say thank you for what you do.
Jim Jordan
Because.
Clay Travis
Because that's why we can go around the world and kick anybody's ass and do it in a way that is blowing the minds of our top adversaries and enemies.
Buck Sexton
Which by the way, in the first Gulf War, for those of you who remember that fear that they would curtail our ability to get oil and gas was the impetus to a large extent for the first Gulf War back in 1990 or whatever it was, it was a totally different world. I'll add into what you just said, Buck. Do you know what country they believe in? The Western hemisphere has the largest untapped resources of oil and gas? Venezuela.
Clay Travis
Well, the biggest proven reserves on the planet. Yeah.
Buck Sexton
So the fact that we now have the ability basically to also access that is yet another sign that we are curtailing the power of the. Of the oil and gas petrodictators all around the world, including Iran, Russia. It's not a surprise that a lot of these countries that are natural adversaries to ours are very oil wealthy. Well, tax season can be scam season. Every year IRS can expect as many as a million tax returns filed by cybercriminals using somebody's Social Security number and address to get the refund before you do. This year, no different. If you're an identity theft victim, it's up to you to prove it to the irs. It's important to understand how cybercrime and identity theft are affecting our lives. Just like it's important you know how to protect your online identity. It's best done with a LifeLock membership. LifeLock monitors millions of data points a second for risk to your identity. That's how they discover your identity is in the wrong hands. And when Lifelock sees it, they're in touch with you quickly to confirm whether you have a problem. If you become a victim of identity theft, a dedicated US based restoration specialist will fix it, guaranteed or your money back. It's easy to help protect yourself with LifeLock. Join now and save 40% off your first year. With my name, Clay as your promo code, call 1-800-LIFELOCK or go online to lifelock.com promo code Clay for 40% off that's lifelock.com promo code clay for 40% off saving America. One thought at a time, Clay. Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in play. Travis. Buck Sexton show. Little bit of news to pay attention to and I know they have said potentially they are going to run together, but if you look at the odds markets on who the 2028 Republican nominee is going to be, J.D. vance had been a big favorite for some time. Marco Rubio. Buck, amid reports that a lot of donors love him, is now surging to the point where he is about to pass J.D. vance as the favorite to be the nominee in 2028. I know it's a ways away. I know we have to get through the midterms, but the day after the midterms, so November 8th, or whatever the heck that day is this year, effectively the brand new 2028 presidential campaign will begin. And one thing to think about, Buck is not only JD and other people who might run. What's Trump going to be like when he's no longer able to be running for president and potentially no longer the central story of the political scene?
Clay Travis
Probably going to do a podcast.
Buck Sexton
I don't, I don't think anybody's really
Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
I just, I think we've gotten used to Trump as the focal point of everything. I don't know what it's going to be like in 2027. Very soon from now,
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Jim Jordan
I'm doing fine. How about you?
Clay Travis
Pretty good actually. Pretty good. Got a little crazier last night. We're in a little blackout of Miami beach, this part of it but now the powers back on so. That's nice. Gets hot here pretty quickly. Yeah, it's good deal. So unfortunately it was not an Iranian cyber attack or anything of the. Of the like. But I was prepared just in case. So tell me about what's going on. There's a, there's a fraud hearing in Minnesota. You got Waltz, you got Ellison. You're talking. You expose Waltz as I understand it exposed him how? What went on here?
Jim Jordan
Well, he just lied. I mean and the court did something I've never seen. The court actually issued a statement in the press from the court saying what you have said about why you restarted this program. So understand what happened is all the whistleblowers and the folks in the government said hey, this feeding our future program got all kinds of problems. We don't know what's going on. All these, all these meals going to kids. But there are no meals, no kids and they're just stuffing their pot. There's all kinds of concerns. So they shut it down and then a month later they started back up and the payments resumed. And Wall said he did it because the court ordered. And the court said that's not true. I mean they just told the governor what you said is completely false. But I believe he did it for the politics. I mean the Somali community is a large voting block. And we had this statement from a Somali American who worked in Attorney General Ellison, the attorney general up there worked in his office as a fraud investigator and said the reason they didn't go after these folks like they should have is they were concerned about the voting block that was there for Democrats. And so yeah, this was. They lied about it and they, they fostered it and allowed it to happen for political reasons. And I think that is now becoming crystal clear
Buck Sexton
when you look. So it was good to see you Friday. Congressman Jim Jordan. Buck, by the way, I saw tweeted last night, you have to keep tabs on this too that he's working on the 110 mile an hour serve. I don't know which side of that you want to.
Jim Jordan
He's doing sprints, he's doing everything. Training hard.
Clay Travis
You know, the Rocky montage. Rocky's got nothing on middle aged Buck.
Buck Sexton
It's, it's rare that I see something that everybody agrees with in America that Congress can't pass. And Buck talked about this yesterday. Every day we hear about the SAVE Act.
Clay Travis
Save America, Save America. Trump is very specific. It is the Save America Act.
Jim Jordan
Yeah.
Buck Sexton
What is, what is the latest on this? And, and do you have any optimism at all? I know a lot of the hang up is on the Senate side, but it's crazy to me. This can't get passed.
Jim Jordan
No, it's. Crazy is the right word. You know, so many positions the left has, it makes absolutely no sense. It's completely crazy that you wouldn't want just citizens to vote. You wouldn't want them to show an ID because you have to show an ID for everything. And we got countless examples from mom, Donnie and the snow shovelers example on and on the go. So look, this is in the United States Senate. Let's have the debate. You know, Reagan used to talk about in politics you got to paint with big bold color so everyone understands what's at stake. And a debate in the Senate where you bring this bill up, you have the debate, you talk about it, you make the Democrats look like the fools that they are for embracing the opposite position of what is everyone knows as common sense. What, like 90% of the country agrees with you. Have the debate and then call the question. That's the only way you can see what's going on. And that's what needs to happen. And of course, I think, I think Senator Thune, Leader Thune will do that. But the sooner I think they get after that, the better it is for the country. And the people of this great nation will see one party is for this ridiculous position. The Republican Party is for common sense. And it's not just this you, it's countless others.
Clay Travis
So you're not thinking that this is going to get through or rather you wouldn't even support Congressman, if I know this would be on the Senate side. But if the Senate getting rid of the filibuster for this specific piece of legislation, this is really to make the point to the American people in a midterm election year that Democrats don't want secure elections, I mean, is that the biggest takeaway from the Save America Act?
Jim Jordan
Well, I hope it passes. And frankly, this idea of this talking filibuster where you really have to go to the floor and it's Basically, you know, Mr. Smith goes to Washington like it used to be. I mean, remember the Democrats used to use this way back when, back in the 50s and 60s when they were stopping good legislation, they had to go talk and talk forever to stop it. And it was actually then the racist Democrats who were stopping the Voting Rights act and all the good things that were civil rights issues that were happening, they would use that technique. So I'm all for them having to do that. But in the end, you've got to call the question at some point too. And you got to show the country this is what's at stake. This is where one party is crazy position. This is where the Republicans are. I mean, I think this election, we were just talking about this with some colleagues. I think this election is real crazy, real straightforward. They're crazy, we're not. And you can go issue by issue and show that it's crazy to defund the police. It's crazy to abolish ice. It's crazy to say men should compete against women in sports. It's crazy to shut down the government for 43 days. It's crazy to say you shouldn't have to show an ID to vote, you shouldn't have to be a citizen. I mean, you can just go every stinking issue and it's like their position is crazy. And the president pointed this out so well in the State of the Union when they wouldn't stand for something that was just so common sense.
Buck Sexton
A ton of people are travel traveling right now, Congressman, because it is spring break season. A lot of kids, a lot of grandkids making trips and some of the lines that you're seeing to build on what you just said, I mean, we're talking about three four hour lines at different locations just to get through airport security. I know Iran's going on. You can give us your take on Iran too. But when people start seeing in their day to day life incompetence from government, it makes them angry. And I can only imagine, I know a lot of people out there listening to us right now have found themselves in long TSA lines at a time of war. It seems beyond absurd to me that Democrats won't pay TSA agents and get everything back fully open.
Jim Jordan
No, again, just one another example, their position is abolish ice. If not do some of the crazy things we want to do. We're going to shut down the Department of Homeland Security. And as you point out now, people are starting to have real implications, real consequences for this ridiculous action that the Democrats have taken and never forget when they attack ICE, understand what happened in Minneapolis with Mr. Prady and Ms. Good were tragic, but understand what ICE agents have been up against. They've been tracked, they've been doxed, they've been spit on, they've been sworn at, they've been screamed at, they've had death threats to themselves, to their families. They've been attacked physically. You name it. It's happened to them all because of the radical left. And now they're taking this position. Unless you change all that, we're not going to fund the Department of Homeland Security at a time when we're in this armed conflict with Iran makes, again, no sense.
Clay Travis
So tell me about this conflict with Iran as you see it. We've played some sound bites from the president last evening at Doral. We've played Pete Hegseth, secretary of War, this morning. They seem both very pleased with the progress so far and very confident in the mission. We hear from a lot of Trump supporters who are cautious in their assessment of this. They're concerned in their assessment of this. Where do you come down on this, Congressman?
Jim Jordan
No, I mean, I agree with the president and, you know, God bless our military and what they've been able to accomplish in this short period, short period of time. I do think, you know, the concern is not the same here. This is, this is, this president is not going to, I believe, get America locked into something like we have with Iraq, which was all those years and years and all the money that was spent there. So we all know that Iran's the largest state sponsor of terrorism. We know that taking out and stopping these guys from getting nuclear capability, building on Midnight Hammer from last year, taking out their missile launch sites and their missiles, so they can't continue to pursue this, this nuclear capability that they're after, that is good for us, that is good for our best friend Israel. That is good for the world, that is good for the Iranian people in the end. So, and they've been at this, this, this regime for what, 47, almost, almost 50 years, where they have killed Americans, killed Israelis, killed all kinds of other people around the world and killed a number, huge number of their own citizens. So I think this is good. And look, we hope it doesn't last real long. The president has said that. And this president makes decisions that are in the best interest of the country. We've seen it time and time again. And this president, more than any president I've ever known, does what he said he would do. And he told us he was not going to let this nation, this terrorist sponsoring nation get nuclear capability. Is bound and determined to make sure that that doesn't happen.
Buck Sexton
We're talking to Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio. I saw you Friday afternoon at the White House for the NIL event. How optimistic are you that in addition to solving all the other things going on right now, that Congress is going to be able to, under President Trump, who's super fired up about this issue, fix college athletics?
Jim Jordan
Well, it needs fix and the president has determined like he has on so many other important issues. You saw that like, like I did on Friday afternoon. I think we can get the step one is to get a ball in play. To use sports analogy with this, we got it. We got to pass the SCORE act because at a minimum we have to do some kind of antitrust relief for the governing institution for college sports. Every major professional sports league has specific relief from our antitrust law. Baseball has it explicitly. Other sports, it's implied. And they have rule relief. You have to do the same here or it's just going to be more court cases that are going to determine all the rules for how college sports operates. And we're going to continue to have this mess. So that, at a minimum has to happen. There are other good things in that legislation that I do think I wanted to pass it last year during football season. Hopefully now we can get it done before the final four, which is coming quick. Let's hope so. But I do think the SCORE act is ready to go. I think there are a few people on our side who were opposed to it, are now going to be willing to vote for it. So we get that thing moving and then we'll go from there. And the president, of course, is going to weigh in all throughout the process.
Clay Travis
Congressman Jim Jordan, always appreciate you coming to hang out with us, sir. Thank you.
Jim Jordan
You bet. Guys, thanks for all the good work. Take care.
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radio hosts a couple of regular guys, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. We were talking. I do think this is a significant story and we'll get to a couple of your calls here in a sec too. That deserves more attention. Kevin Newsom and what California has Done. Sue, let's flip for a moment. Super positive as we laid out, the United States in the last 1012 years has become the foremost producer of oil and gas in the entire world. It's an incredible success story. It's one that should be talked about more. And it actually has created a situation where Middle Eastern countries do not have us constantly at their beck and call over what the price of oil and gas is, by the way.
Clay Travis
And can I just also point out, Clay, this is because of fracking.
Buck Sexton
Yes.
Clay Travis
Which used to be a dirty word. Remember they made documentaries about how fracking was going to catch the water on fire and all lie, all nonsense. Fracking has turned us into an energy superpower. Thank you, Big Oil.
Buck Sexton
This should be a big topic of discussion for many of you in California, as this is wild. As the United States has become the foremost producer of oil and gas in the world, California has simultaneously gone in the exact opposite direction and overwhelmingly begun to restrict oil and gas production in their state, which is one of the states that, if oil and gas production were permitted, would have one of the largest production capabilities in the country. Okay. What has the result actually led to? Overwhelming surge in oil and gas prices for people in California. So I do think this is so significant. The policy direction of California and other states, but California in particular, because it has the ability to produce so much oil and gas, has been directly contradicted by the larger American policy. If the nation had gone as California has, we would be totally reliant upon oil and gas producers in the Middle east, in Russia, in Venezuela, in A way that we are not, you know. Who is, Buck? China. 40%, I was reading this morning, of China's oil and gas comes through the Strait of Hormuz. They have to bring in the vast majority of the oil and gas that their country consumes, based on my reading of this situation. And that's one reason they've been allies of Venezuela and Iran, because they've been trying to preserve oil and gas that they have to bring in in order to fuel their economy well.
Clay Travis
And they're buying it at cut rate prices because you can't buy that oil if you're Europe. You can't buy that oil if you're America, obviously. So the whole deal is these sanctions busters, if you will, like China come in and say, oh, we'll buy your Iranian oil for, you know, 80 cents on the dollar or whatever, whatever.
Buck Sexton
This is what India has been doing that Trump finally cracked down on is taking all Russian oil and just sending it back out, but basically laundering Russian oil through India and taking a profit on top of it. We got a couple of interesting calls here. I'll start with Tom in South Carolina. He has a question for you, Buck. Fire away, Tom.
Jim Jordan
All right, my question is, and give me a second here, supposedly the Iranians have activated the sleeper cells all across the world in America. My thing is those people have probably been here a while, probably like it now, have families and think that their regime is going to be top. So do you think if they get that text to start attacking that they just ignore it and go on with their life thinking that they would rather live their life in America and regime will be gone eventually?
Clay Travis
It totally depends. It's a very good question. It's just there's so many facets to this. It totally depends. I think a lot. You have people who are ideological fellow travelers who are essentially jihadists who just want to lash out at, at enemies of the Islamic revolution, right? I mean this, this lunatic in Texas, for example, in Austin with like the Iranian leader or you know, the mullahs on his T shirt. There are people like that who I don't think have gotten, they haven't gotten any Quds Force training. They're not operatives that have received some level of tradecraft. They're just wackos who want to help Iran. And you know, we don't know how many of them there are. What you're asking I think is more what about Hezbollah trained infiltrators coming across the southern border, setting up here? The numbers that we have on those are guesses at best. And whether they are ideologically committed or not. You know, you can go and watch there's a great series, the Americans, about Russian deep, deep cover agents. Illegals, they actually call them, not illegal aliens, but illegals is what the Russian kgb. Have you ever seen the Americans play? It is a, I love, fantastic series. So good. It's an A. It's an A series. Really, really good.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, it's been out. I mean, what, it's probably finished about five years ago or so now.
Clay Travis
More, maybe 10.
Buck Sexton
It's been a while. Yeah, I watched it back in the day. It was fantastic. Marv, quickly, in California, in Canada, what you got for us?
Jim Jordan
I just wanted to weigh in on your comments about oil pricing. Oil pricing last week hitting almost 120. Oil pricing right now at below $83 a barrel, it's a 30% drop. The last time that we saw a 30% drop in oil pricing was when Russia invaded Ukraine. This kind of dramatic drop on the catalyst for that is global,
Buck Sexton
incredibly significant
Jim Jordan
global actions that are taking place.
Buck Sexton
We will discuss that and more. Oil prices down $35 since yesterday.
Clay Travis
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Episode Title: Hour 1 - Iran Endgame
Date: March 10, 2026
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts
In this incisive first hour, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton dissect the latest U.S. military campaign against Iran, focusing on the unprecedented air campaign’s impact, the unresolved questions about Iran’s internal future, and broader geopolitical effects — especially energy markets and America’s role as a global energy powerhouse. The hosts blend pointed analysis with signature humor, bring in key sound bites (including from President Trump and Secretary of War Pete Hegseth), and are later joined by Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan to delve into domestic policy battles.
No Clear Successor: No visible alternative leadership for Iran; U.S. and Israel may be waiting for someone to “emerge.”
IRGC Entrenchment: The Iranian Revolutionary Guard is highly decentralized, ensuring survivability, and brutally suppresses dissent.
Second Amendment Parallel: The hosts riff on how Iran’s inability to defend itself from its own government contrasts with America’s gun rights tradition.
Oil Price Shock—Or Not: Predictions of catastrophic energy price spikes proved overstated; markets stabilized quickly.
America the Oil Superpower: The U.S. is now the top global oil producer, thanks to fracking, and less vulnerable to energy blackmail.
Contrast to California’s Policy: The episode spotlights California as a cautionary tale, restricting oil/gas production even as the country surges ahead.
Sleeper Cells: Callers raise questions about Iranian sleeper cells in the U.S. and their potential impact. Clay responds it’s a mix of true operatives and ideological sympathizers, with the numbers unknown.
Oil Price Collapse: Another caller notes a massive drop in global oil prices, raising implications for the world economy.
Discusses ongoing fraud hearings in Minnesota and accuses Democrats of lying and political favoritism in the “Feeding Our Future” program scandal.
Expounds on the “Save America Act,” securing elections, and lambasts Democrats' resistance to voter ID as “crazy.”
On Iran, Jordan fully backs Trump’s approach, confident that the current administration won’t get locked into “endless” wars and is achieving significant objectives.
Brief discussion about reforming college athletics and the need to pass antitrust relief for college sports governance.
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This episode provides an unfiltered look at how the U.S. has waged a devastating air campaign against Iran while openly questioning what political future could follow the regime’s neutralization. Clay and Buck press the unanswered questions about post-strike Iran, assert the strategic leverage American energy production now provides, criticize “crazy” progressive policies domestically, and bring in Rep. Jim Jordan for the latest on internal political fights and to reinforce confidence in the administration’s tough, targeted foreign policy. Discussions are timely, punchy, and carry a strong conservative perspective, supported by both high-level sound bites and granular listener questions.