Hour 1 - Iran Optimism

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 1 – Iran Optimism

Date: March 17, 2026
Hosts: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Overview

In this episode, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton discuss the major international developments surrounding Iran, reflecting on recent U.S. military strikes, shifts in global alliances, and implications for American foreign policy. With humor and candid analysis, they break down media narratives, political responses (especially among Democrats), and what these events could mean for related hotspots like Cuba and Venezuela. The conversation also touches on President Trump’s high-profile decisions and dovetails into broader discussions about bureaucratic effectiveness in U.S. counterterror efforts and the possible diplomatic aftermath in the Middle East.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Situation in Iran: Strikes and Outcomes

• Clay opens by noting the unprecedented scale and apparent effectiveness of recent U.S. operations against Iranian leadership:
  • “Many of the prominent remaining leaders of Iran were wiped out overnight with additional strikes and things seem to be going really, really well.” (03:04)
• Both hosts critique mainstream American media for failing to provide proper context or analysis, commending an Al Jazeera article for its depth (03:59).
• Distinction between the realities on the ground and media coverage:
  • The media often presents “very surface level, ‘oh, Trump sucks, oil and gas is now expensive.’ There’s no idea what’s going on.” (04:03, Clay)
• Markets and oil prices show measured response, suggesting the operation is not destabilizing global energy (07:11).
• Buck provides granular detail about Iranian militia structure, specifically the Basij, underscoring how significant the recent leadership losses are:
  • “The head of the besiege, he’s toast. Good news. And then another senior Iranian military response official, he’s also gone. Good news on that front. These are terrible people…they order the execution of people without trial.” (09:59)

2. Political Reactions and Trump’s Leadership

• Discussion around bipartisan consensus opposed to Iranian nuclear proliferation, and the shifting stance among Democrats:
  • “Everybody agreed that Iran couldn’t have nuclear weapons. Yes. Democrat, Republican, Independent.” (04:03)
• Notable anecdote about who called Trump to commend his Iran policy, hinting at Bill Clinton:
  • “It’s quite clear that President Clinton is the one who called President Trump and that President Clinton has said, according to Trump, hey, I wish I had done what you have done on Iran.” (06:14, Clay)
  • Trump’s coy answer:

    “I don’t want to say because Barack Obama, a member of a party, they have Trump derangement syndrome. But it’s somebody that happens to like me…I wish I did it, okay, but I don’t want to get into who.” (06:23, Donald Trump)

• Political dilemma for Democrats:
  • “You’re trying to oppose an act that is overwhelmingly acknowledged to be a good one—that is, take out terrorists and keep them from getting a nuclear bomb.” (07:11, Clay)
• Trump is clear the operation will end soon:

  “We’re not ready to leave yet, but we will be leaving in the near future. We’ll be leaving in pretty much the very near future. But right now they’ve been decimated from every standpoint.” (28:46, Donald Trump)

3. Bureaucratic and Administrative Analysis

• Buck explains why the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC) is ineffective, a product of post-9/11 bureaucracy duplicating the CIA’s efforts:

  “NCTC is essentially useless. Trust me, I know.” (13:18, Buck)
  “All you had was this bloated bureaucracy…fighting each other as if that’s going to prevent, you know, who has primacy that’s not going to prevent a terrorist attack.” (13:26)

• He also critiques the Director of National Intelligence (DNI):

  “The DNI does not have the power to meaningfully do that, which means replacing people that you think need to be replaced.” (15:11)

4. Broader Geopolitics: Cuba and Venezuela

• Discussion of Cuba’s power grid collapse following U.S.-led cutoff of Venezuelan oil, framed as part of a regional domino effect also touching Venezuela and Iran:

  “Cuba is in basically a blackout situation now because of the embargo, because we’re not letting oil get to the island of Cuba anymore. It’s not coming from Venezuela.” (24:13, Buck citing CNN)

• Trump, in a clear moment of bravado, on prospects for Cuba:

  “I do believe I’ll be the honor of having the honor of taking Cuba. That’d be good. That’s a big honor.” (24:31, Donald Trump) “Taking Cuba in some form…whether I free it, take it, think I could do anything I want with it.” (25:03)

• Clay speculates about possible transformational changes across Cuba, Venezuela, and Iran—comparing the moment to the Berlin Wall’s fall:

  “It has a bit of an echo feeling for when the Berlin Wall came down to me because of Venezuela, Iran and Cuba, all American adversaries being staggered collectively as one.” (47:08)

5. Trump’s Foreign Policy Philosophy & Independence

• Both hosts push back against conspiracy that Trump is acting solely for Israel:

  “There is the, I don’t know, 10%, 15%, I would say, of the Trump base that is out there arguing, oh, this is all just because of Israel, it’s the Jews. And I think, frankly, you guys are out to lunch on that argument.” (16:28, Clay) “I don’t think Trump would do anything that anyone told him to do.” (16:28) “Trump has had a long simmering anger, as many people his age have with Iran, dating all the way back to 1979…” (16:28)

• Trump restates long-held views on Iran:

  “You have to attack Karg Island…For 48 years they’ve been bad players, vicious players, and you can’t let them have a nuclear weapon.” (27:48, Donald Trump)

6. Notable Quotes & Moments

• On media coverage:

  “It’s honestly an indictment of the American media that there haven’t really been pieces like this. Right. There’s like very surface level, oh, Trump sucks oil and gas is now expensive.” (04:03, Clay Travis)

• On resignation and integrity in government:

  “If you are working for an administration and you truly believe that in the area you’re working…you should resign. You should resign. So I respect that move.” (12:44, Buck Sexton)

• On the lack of Russian/Chinese support for Iran:

  “Russia and China have done nothing for Iran…It’s like a WWE alliance…There was no alliance here. There is no support anywhere for Iran from any country.” (35:20, Clay Travis)

• Colorful banter/levity:

  • Joking about accidentally color-coordinating their shirts, the Irish PM’s comments, traveling to Ireland, and even Tommy Lee Jones’ filmography. (08:09–09:55, 34:08–35:20)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:01] – Opening discussion on Iran’s leadership being “wiped out”
• [04:03] – Critique of media coverage and mention of the Al Jazeera article
• [06:14–07:11] – Trump’s phone call with a former president (Bill Clinton)
• [09:59] – Details on Iran’s Basij and impact of U.S. strikes on their leadership
• [11:18–15:43] – Buck’s critique of NCTC and DNI’s bureaucratic issues
• [16:28] – Discussion on why Trump isn’t “bullied” on foreign policy
• [24:13–25:03] – Cuba’s blackout; Trump on “taking” Cuba
• [27:48] – Trump’s rationale for attacking Iran, attacking Karg Island
• [28:46] – Trump asserts war is “not forever”; leaving Iran soon
• [35:20] – Clay on lack of Russian/Chinese support for Iran
• [47:08] – Clay’s “Berlin Wall” analogy for regional changes (Cuba, Iran, Venezuela)

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Tone, Style, and Memorable Exchanges

• The episode is marked by the hosts’ trademark blend of sharp political analysis, brash humor, and sometimes personal anecdotes.
• The tone alternates between serious, especially when discussing military action and bureaucratic inefficiency, and playful, when riffing on St. Patrick’s Day, movies, and college football rivalries.
• Quips about April Fools’ Day, Trump’s unpredictability, and the ill-fated Batman movies featuring Tommy Lee Jones provide comic relief.

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Conclusion & Big Picture

This episode encapsulates a moment of perceived U.S. strength abroad—with the Trump administration conducting assertive operations in Iran, which both hosts see as effective, justified, and strategically sound. They indulge in speculation about global ripple effects—especially regarding Cuba’s destiny and the diminishment of American adversaries in the region. While acknowledging a tense international environment, the hosts generally remain optimistic, lauding Trump for following through on long-held policy beliefs and lambasting both the media and bureaucratic hurdles within the U.S. government.

For listeners seeking a punchy, right-of-center take on current affairs—with an eye for both immediate headlines and historical context—this hour delivers both insight and entertainment.

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Notable Quotes for Quick Reference

• Clay Travis:

  “I shared an article and I was stunned too from Al Jazeera that actually went...I was blown away by how good it was.” (03:59)

• Buck Sexton:

  “These are terrible people. They order the execution of people without trial. They torture people…some of these guys gots to go and they’re gone.” (09:59)

• Donald Trump (audio):

  “You have to attack Karg Island…For 48 years they’ve been bad players, vicious players, and you can’t let them have a nuclear weapon.” (27:48)

• Clay Travis:

  “It has a bit of an echo feeling for when the Berlin Wall came down to me because of Venezuela, Iran and Cuba, all American adversaries being staggered collectively as one.” (47:08)

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End of Hour 1 – Iran Optimism

Transcript

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome in as we get rolling on the Tuesday edition of the program, a lot of news to keep you all updated with as Iran continues to be dominate the news cycle. Woke up this morning to news that many of the prominent remaining leaders of Iran were wiped out overnight with additional strikes and things seem to be going really, really well. I, I, I think this is Buck right off the top, one of these examples of where largely the media doesn't do a and there are a lot of these examples, but a very fair job of just contextualizing ex is going on and this is going to blow people's minds. I shared an article and I was stunned too from Al Jazeera that actually went did you see this article? I was blown away by how good it was.

[Buck Sexton]

I read it because you shared it. It was quite good analysis and I've

[Clay Travis]

looked and I've tried, I try to read everything. And to a large extent, what you read right now is, oh, this is a disaster. What in the world is Trump doing? And we'll put this up on Clay and Buck and you can go check it out at Clay Travis I thought it was a really reasoned, analytical, logical analysis of exactly what has been going on in Iran. And I think it's honestly an indictment of the American media that there haven't really been pieces like this. Right. There's like very surface level, oh, Trump sucks oil and gas is now expensive. There's no idea what's going on. And then you push back like we said. And when this initially started, we said, wait a minute, everybody agreed that Iran couldn't have nuclear weapons. Yes. Democrat, Republican, Independent. And then you say, okay, well, Iran was working to get nuclear weapons. At some point they were going to have them. That's a logical reality. And then you get to okay, what can we do to stop them from getting nuclear weapons? And Democrats seem to be of the position that it is, well, not this. Okay, so not this. But meanwhile, they all said for a long time, hey, we should do this. And I give credit to Peter Doocy. I think we have this audio. I thought it was kind of funny. Yesterday we played the audio of President Trump saying he had gotten a call from a former president, but he didn't want to let everybody know who the former president was saying, hey, I wish I had done this. And yesterday in the Oval Office, after we went off the air, Peter Doocy followed up on that statement which was made earlier in the day yesterday. And I thought this was pretty funny, Buck. He said, was it President George W. Bush? And President Trump said, no. And then he said, well, was it? There's not very many former presidents, right. So we're talking about a relatively limited number of people who could be involved. This is cut three. I thought this was pretty funny. It's quite clear that President Clinton is the one who called President Trump and that President Clinton has said, according to Trump, hey, I wish I had done what you have done on Iran. Listen to cut three, as Trump doesn't quite say it, but basically does say it. Just want to ask you about something

[Buck Sexton]

very interesting that you said twice today

[Clay Travis]

that you talked to another former president about the Iran strikes. Was it George W. Bush?

[Donald Trump]

No.

[Clay Travis]

Was it Bill Clinton?

[Donald Trump]

I don't want to say. I don't want to say because Barack Obama, a member of a party, a member of a party, they have Trump derangement syndrome. But it's somebody that happens to like me. And I like that person who's a smart person, but that person said, I wish I did it, okay, but I don't want to get into who. I don't want to get him into trouble. Maybe, hey, you know what? I think you probably know. You know, it's interesting and maybe he'd be proud and I could even ask him that. Would you like me to reveal your name to Peter at Fox? Well, at least you have high ratings. Your ratings are through the roof, Peter.

[Buck Sexton]

Thank you for noticing.

[Donald Trump]

Congratulations.

[Clay Travis]

All right, so all of that, very funny. We said yesterday, hey, this is former President Bill Clinton. The only other one we could think about was George W. Bush, and Trump specifically said it was not him. And so I think this is where you're kind of in a difficult position. If you are Democrats now, you're trying to oppose an act that is overwhelmingly acknowledged to be a good one, that is take out terrorists and keep them from getting a nuclear bomb. And basically all they are left with is the price of oil and gas, which is predicated on the free flow of oil and gas through the Strait of Hormuz. And Buck, the markets seem to be kind of, of the opinion, yeah, this is, this is effectively over. The price of oil and gas is not surging one way or the other. Now, I think it's going to come back down relatively soon. And this is where we are. Like, it's a pretty successful operation so far.

[Buck Sexton]

You know, we're wearing the same color T shirt again today. This is becoming a thing where Clay and I spend so much time together that we don't. We need to start coordinating. I don't know what this is. We're on like the same.

[Clay Travis]

I'm even wearing a Clay and Buck T shirt, which, which is even the next step on coordination here.

[Buck Sexton]

I just, you know, we are. We got to figure this out. But anyway, for those of you who are watching on the YouTube, Clay, a couple things. First of all, happy St. Patrick's Day to everybody. Happy St. Patty's Day. Yes, you have Trump right now as we are talking to you live with the prime minister of Ireland. We'll bring you anything relevant to our discussions and the news cycle from that. Of course, Trump is going to be like St. Patrick, one of the best saints. Love the St. Patrick green little leprechauns everywhere, all over. He'll say some nice things. Ireland, interestingly enough, unfortunately, Clay has not learned, or rather the leadership has not learned the lessons of the rest of Europe. And they. They now have the president of Ireland going off on how St. Patrick's Day really is a day of globalization and migration. That's actually what it has become instead of a celebration of Irishness. And we can get into this more later. I don't want to. The Iran thing, though, is we're blowing them.

[Clay Travis]

Have you been to Ireland, by the way? Have you ever been?

[Buck Sexton]

It is the next place on the list that Carrie and I have decided we're going. I loved Scotland, even though it turns out it's basically like a communist enclave in the north of the United Kingdom. I mean, it's very left wing, very awesome geographically.

[Clay Travis]

It's super cool.

[Buck Sexton]

It's beautiful. I love it. I mean, it's a beautiful country, but I just wish the politics of it were quite a bit different and unfortunately the same thing. You know, they say Ireland is the Cuba of Europe. Side note, Cuba having a get into.

[Clay Travis]

We're going to get into Cuba as well today.

[Buck Sexton]

So we have all these things floating around the ether. I didn't mean to do divert you from Iran talk here, but the Iran. The situation in Iran is we killed. We killed the head of the besieged. We killed one of their other senior defense. Like senior defense guys. I forget. The besiege is the militia that I've been telling you about. They're the ones whose job is to know everybody in the neighborhood and anybody who goes out and does anything, you know, protest or tries anything against, they just kill them. That's their whole job. That's what the besiege is. So the head of the besiege, he's toast. Good news. And then another senior Iranian military response official, he's also gone. Good news on that front. These are terrible people. They order the execution of people without trial. They torture people. Like, I'm usually not a bloodthirsty individual at all, but I'll tell you, some of these guys gots to go and they're gone. So that's a good thing. And Trump is continuing on with the plan here. And I think that Clay, they will be able to start getting those ships going again in the Strait of Hormuz. That's going to happen. And as that happens, the, the anxiety around oil flows and everything else will open up quite a bit, and that will be good. So we'll see where this, where this happens. I do not see any reason for panic from anyone right now based on what Trump is doing. I saw the senior resignation, Joe Kent.

[Clay Travis]

We had.

[Buck Sexton]

We've had him on the show, right? We've had.

[Clay Travis]

At some point, I think, for sure. I think. Well, he ran for Congress. I think we had him on for sure in 22.

[Buck Sexton]

That's right.

[Clay Travis]

Lost a very close race. And we certainly have had him on. I don't think we've had him on since he joined the Trump administration, but that's getting a lot of attention. Do you know Joe Kent well, like, what's your. I don't know how to take.

[Buck Sexton]

I've interviewed him. I've interviewed him a few times. I like, on a personal level, I like the guy. A lot of respect for him. A lot of respect for not only his service, but also the sacrifice that he has made. You know, he lost his wife in Syria.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

Working alongside Special operations there in a suicide bombing. So a lot of love for Joe Kent from me as just a general love and respect as a general thing, leaving this way. I actually think that this is more people should do this instead of staying in jobs. I'm not saying that he's right, but we'll get into the analysis of what he thinks about this war. But I am saying if you are working for an administration and you truly believe that in the area you're working. Right. If you work at the Treasury Department, I don't think you have to resign because, you know, you disagree with something that's going on in, in dhs. But, you know. Right. If you're if you're working on an issue and you truly cannot, in good conscience, as he said in his resignation letter, continue on with it, you should resign. You should resign. So I respect.

[Clay Travis]

Because otherwise you're just going to be a direct obstacle to the President's prerogatives. And that isn't a healthy thing to do inside of an administration.

[Buck Sexton]

And you don't have the right to do that. You don't have the right to, to, to work at the pleasure of the President or to have your job at the pleasure of the President and to try to be an obstacle to his agenda. I mean, if, you know, even if you think it's illegal and you would be better because you can try to throw sand in the gears. No, you take that to, you know, the doj, good luck with that, you take it to an inspector general and, you know, you resign. So I respect that move. NCTC is a total waste of time. The whole thing should be scrapped, defunded. It's a joke. So just understand that NCTC is essentially useless. Trust me, I know.

[Clay Travis]

And so he doesn't do so and say why you think it's useless? Because you're way more plugged in on this than the average, than me and also the average listener.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, and I also say this for, you know, I, on also a personal level. And I always want to say that, not be, not to be like, we know these people because we're so cool. It's so that you can assess that. It's like, you know, disclosing when you have a vested interest in, like when I, like when we're friends with somebody, we're friends with Pete Hegseth. I also think he's doing a great job in the Department of War. But people should know we're friends with the guy because that does affect your perception of individuals. Right. I was not friends with Kristi Noem, so I was able to be very, very straightforward on a lot of those things. So I can tell you guys this. NCTC came out of post 911 reordering and rearranging of government. And NCTC was supposed to be the tip of the spear of duty to warn preventing another terrorist 911 incident. Right. But the CIA already had the Counterterrorism Center CTC, which is where I work. And so for the first 10 years of its existence, all you had was this bloated bureaucracy of ctc. I'm sorry, NCTC and ctc, a lot of acronyms, folks fighting each other as if that's going to prevent, you know, who has primacy that's not going to prevent a terrorist attack. Total waste of time. CIA should have primacy on that issue. Working with the FBI. Ok, that's one. And then the other thing is the dni. I like Tulsi Gabbard. I think she's a good person. I think she's a patriot, and I think she's doing everything she can in the role she has. I also think she should come out and say the DNI should be scrapped. I think she should say, I'm going to do all the reforms I can in this job while I can. And then we should. We should, you know, go to Congress and unroll this thing. Because they don't have the authority to really oversee the community a meaningful way.

[Clay Travis]

In theory they do, but in practical impact, meaning the way it was designed is, is different than what the way it actually is run.

[Buck Sexton]

They, they have the, they have the mandate, Clay, to oversee the intelligence community. They don't have. The DNI does not have the power to meaningfully do that, which means replacing people that you think need to be replaced.

[Clay Travis]

If you need to hire the CIA director or the FBI director, in theory, that would be the role of this. And they do not have the capability to do that.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah. So I'm just. NCTC is, I think, a total waste of time. I'm sorry for some of you who work there or have worked there, but. And I come from ctc, so Clay, it's a little bit of like an Auburn, Alabama thing, to be fair.

[Clay Travis]

Right.

[Buck Sexton]

But I think it's a total waste of time. And then in terms of his assessment of the war, I just don't. And like I said, I respect Joe Kent not throwing any shade at Joe Ken at all. I don't think that anyone twists Donald Trump's arm and pushes him into something. I don't think that. I don't think that Israel. Which is what the. Which is what the claim is in Joe's resignation letter. I don't think Israel's in a position. And some people can disagree with this, it's fine. But I don't think Israel's in a position to say, hey, Trump, start a massive aerial campaign against Iran now because we want it, not because. Not because you think it's good for America. It can be good for America and good for Israel. And I think Donald Trump sees it that way. I don't think he did it because someone else told him to do it. I don't think we've seen Trump do that with, like, really.

[Clay Travis]

I don't think Trump would do anything that anyone told him to do. In fact, I think Trump's whole career to a large extent is doing the opposite of what many people in positions of power have told him to do. He trusts his gut. And what I would come back with as we go to break here, buck to think about is there's evidence of Trump saying that we should do all of the things that we have done in Iran decades ago. Maybe we can go pull some of those. Have you guys seen that circulating of Trump out publicly doing interviews long before he was a politician, talking about seizing Carj island, talking about wiping out the ayatollah? I think Trump has had a long simmering anger, as many people his age have with Iran, dating all the way back to 1979 when they seized our embassy. And I think he sees this as a score settling in many different ways. But if we can grab that audio, I think it puts to rest. There is the, I don't know, 10%, 15%, I would say, of the Trump base that is out there arguing, oh, this is all just because of Israel, it's the Jews. And I think, frankly, you guys are out to lunch on that argument. I don't, I don't think it's a good one at all. I don't think Trump can be bullied into doing anything he doesn't believe is in the best interest of the country.

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back into Clay and Buck so we have a lot going on with Iran right now. President Trump continuing with the mission. And that's something that we will bring you more details on. But also I wanted to point this out, Clay, because I mentioned this before in the background. This would normally get a lot more attention, but because of what's going on, Iran, it's quite a bit secondary in news coverage. Cuba is in basically a blackout situation now because of the embargo, because we're not letting oil get to the island of Cuba anymore. It's not coming from Venezuela. This is cut one. Listen to this. The CNN

[Clay Travis]

Cuba's electrical grid has suffered a complete and total collapse. This is according to the country's power operator. It's the first nationwide blackout since the US Effectively shut off the flow of oil to Cuba.

[Buck Sexton]

Clay, here's Trump on Cuba. Play to A lot of Cubans have

[Donald Trump]

said, oh boy, would they love to go back. I think Cuba is in its own way, if you know tourism and everything else. It's a beautiful island, great weather, they're not in a hurricane zone, which is nice for a change. You know, they won't be asking us for money for hurricanes every week, but. But I think Cuba seeing the end. You know, all my life I've been hearing about the United States and Cuba. When will the United States do it? I do believe I'll be the honor of having the honor of taking Cuba. That'd be good. That's a big honor.

[Buck Sexton]

Taking Cuba.

[Donald Trump]

Taking Cuba in some form. Yeah, taking Cuba. I mean, whether I free it, take it, think I could do anything I want with it. You want to know the truth? They're very weakened nation right now.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in Clay. Travis BUCK SEXTON SHOW we're going to get into Cuba because I think Cuba is an interesting discussion. Top of the next hour. I know we've got a lot of Cuban listeners, but Cuba, Iran, Venezuela, they're all connected. By the way, big baseball game happening in Miami tonight between Venezuela and the United States. Buck, I might talk about this in the third hour a bit, but the scene if Trump went to this game and threw out the first pitch from all of the Venezuelan expats and all of the pro America fans that are going to be at this game, if you're a sports fan at all, I'm telling you, put it on. Tonight. This World Baseball Classic has been awesome in Buck's backyard in Miami. It's going to be an electric scene. I'm watching it tonight, going to a sports bar with a couple of buddies down here and my kids. Okay, let me hit you with this. President Trump just now with the prime minister. Is it the prime minister, I think of Ireland answering questions from the media. And here are a lot of what he has said. Let's see. Trump, I wanted to play this. This is cut 34. Trump said years ago that you have to attack, attack Kharge island. That is the primary deposit or departure point of Iranian oil. And he just addressed that again, he's been saying this for decades. So anyone out there saying, oh, the only reason Trump's doing this is Israel. And cut 34, listen, I said you

[Donald Trump]

have to attack Carg Karg Island. You have to attack them years ago where they were acting up. They've been acting up for 37, 47, I guess, now 48 years. For 48 years they've been bad players, vicious players, and you can't let them have a nuclear weapon. If they got a nuclear weapon, I would say they would have used it within 24 hours after having it, and they would have had it if we didn't bomb them out from that great rate with the B2 bombers eight months ago or so, you would have had a nuclear war in the Middle east and maybe beyond. I think it would have hit Europe, maybe not Ireland, but it would have hit Europe. I think you would have been a nice piece of it. It all gets you. It's big enough that you would have been effective. They would have hit Europe.

[Clay Travis]

All right. And then Trump says, we're not ready to leave yet, but we'll be leaving in the near future. Not putting an exact timetable on Iran, but letting everybody know this is not a forever war. Cut 35.

[Donald Trump]

We're not ready to leave yet, but we will be leaving in the near future. We'll be leaving in pretty much the very near future. But right now they've been decimated from every standpoint. And again, we've had great support from countries in the Middle East. Great support, support, but we've had no support from essentially no support from NATO.

[Clay Travis]

And then he's there with the Prime Minister of Ireland. He teed off on the current leader of the uk, England's Starmer, and he said, look, he's no Churchill. Cut 33.

[Donald Trump]

Well, he hasn't been supportive and I think it's a big mistake. You know, they make a lot of money on trade with the United States. I did and I went out of my way. As you know, they couldn't make a deal with Biden because they had no real administration to make a deal Biden. But we made a deal. We made a good deal for them and frankly probably wasn't appreciated. I do look forward to seeing the King. He's going to be coming, as you know, very shortly. But no, I was disappointed because Kiir was willing to send two aircraft carriers after we won because essentially there's no threat for the aircraft carriers right now. And I said no, no, we want things sent before the war, not after the war is won. So yeah, I'm disappointed with Care. I like him, I think he's a nice man, but I'm disappointed. Okay, so you see that?

[Clay Travis]

Okay, so President Trump just moments ago in the Oval Office. Buck, I think it's going to be hard to attack Trump very long on this because to your point, if you were setting an over under of when major operations cease in in Iran, I think you said yesterday, April 1st, thereabouts, I would be stunned. What are we sitting at right now, the 17th? I would be stunned if a month from now we're still engaged in acts. So look, we're talking about relatively short lived process at this point in time.

[Buck Sexton]

Hopefully Trump won't end it on March 31st and then announce a full scale ground invasion on April 1st. Psych. April Fools. That would be quite an April Fool's joke. I'm just saying I don't think Trump will do that. But he has been known to make some jokes. So.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, yeah, I'm just, I'm just laughing at the stock market reaction. If we actually had Trump April Fool's reactions. Can you imagine? Like, oh, my goodness, it would be

[Buck Sexton]

the fastest crash and the fastest rebound in the stock market we've ever seen. If he's like, we're going in heavy. We're sending in 100,000 soldiers into Iran. Just kidding. April Fools. You could see it in real time, like, just completely go nuts. But I. Look, Trump is very clear on what the mission is here. He's going to finish this up, and it will be done. And I suppose, Clay, that the idea is there'll be a different tone of negotiation from the Iranians going forward. Like, do you guys. Do you guys want this kind of stuff or do you want to. You know, basically, Trump says, you got the easy way and the hard way. And the Iranians were like, hard way, because they didn't think he would do it. And he's Trump. So he did it. And now I think he'll go back to them again and it will be, do you want the easy way or hard way? Part two. And maybe since he's taken out so much of the existing leadership, whoever is in charge going forward will say we're willing to be a little bit more constructive in these negotiations on a whole range of things. I think that's the best. That's the best possible outcome. As I see it right now. I don't see anything else.

[Clay Travis]

I know we talked something about yesterday, about the Gayetola Little Mo, as I called him. Did you see the report that came out? I think I saw it this morning. I'm not sure initially when it came out that they said he happened to go for a walk moments before the attack happened, which is the only reason he's still alive right now. That's the first explanation I've seen. Because it has felt strange that his dad, his wife, his son, and I think his brother all died in that attack, and somehow he survived. We don't know very much about him. We don't know very much about his condition, but that is a bit strange that he managed to go for a walk at the exact moment that the attack happened. Just tossing it out there. That is the report about how he survived. Now, he may be dead because we still have not heard him talk. We still have not seen any video of him. At a minimum, as we played for you yesterday, there have been reports that he was severely injured, but I do think anytime. Look, you were in the CIA, so anytime somebody happens to go for a walk right before a major bomb goes off, a part of my. I'm just going to say My alarm bells go, that's either an incredibly unbelievable coincidence if that report is true, or maybe. Maybe he had a little bit of a heads up about what might have been happening. I'm just tossing it out there. It just seems strange right before the whole place gets wiped out that you decide to go for a walk on the street. That's weird.

[Buck Sexton]

To borrow from our friend, the actor from the Fugitive. It's a bit hinky. It's a little hinky that you can't just know that your leader or you can't prove that your leader is in fact. Fine. There is something hinky about that. Something a bit strange, a bit unusual. It's a clue.

[Clay Travis]

I sent you that video. After Friday, we had the guy from the Fugitive on, among many other movies that he had done. And it is kind of crazy that they actually filmed the fugitive scene on St. Patrick's Day in Chicago live during the St. Patrick's Day parade. And there's an interview of Tommy Lee Jones as he is going through the parade. If you watch that, a lot of times, I just think, hey, they just staged this. There's no way they actually filmed part of the movie during the St. Patrick's Day parade. No, they did. It's a cool video footage of the Fugitive from that day. They were filming in Chicago. And Tommy Lee Jones gets interviewed on WGN.

[Buck Sexton]

Tommy Lee Jones in his heyday in the 90s. Fantastic. Great in that movie. Great. You know, in the early 2000s, no country for Old Men. Just forget about his appearance in one of those really bad Batman movies. Don't even forgot about that one. Or. No, no. He was Two Face. He was Two Face, right? Guys, I don't even know he was in one of those Batman movies that. I'm pretty sure the studio that owns the rights to it, like, lit all the copies on fire, so. But Tommy Lee Jones back in the day was. Was fantastic. Clay, you're very optimistic about all things in Iran right now.

[Clay Travis]

Super. I mean, look, I tend to be optimistic in general, but I trust Marco Rubio and Pete Hegseth. I just think they've been phenomenal on most of their foreign policy. And I think if you look at how well things are going in Venezuela, and if you question how well things are going in Venezuela, you know, they're going well because there's no media coverage. We have a predisposition in the United States for negative media coverage across the board. Things go poorly, they get more coverage. Things go well, they get less coverage. We just opened back up the embassy in Venezuela for the first time, I think since 2013. Ish was what I saw. And we've now raised the American flag there. I think we're going to be out of Iran quickly. I suspect that we're going to eventually figure out who we can negotiate with and deal with. I think one of the challenges in Iran right now the President's dealing with is who actually has power and who can make promises and who can engage in any court, any sort of rapprochement as it. As it currently exists. And Cuba, which we're going to talk about at the top of the next hour. Buck, you said it. Ordinarily, what's going on in Cuba would be a top story. I remember, what was it four or five years ago when we first started on the program together, if I'm remembering the math correctly, there were protests in Cuba and we talked about that as the lead story. Remember when they had the huge protests, people were waving American flags. Then the Cuban government rose up and pushed back against them. That was during Biden's administration. But the fact of where we are right now with Cuba is kind of extraordinary by itself. And I think it's directly connected to Venezuela and to Iran. Here's one other thing as we go to break here to think about, Buck. Russia and China have done nothing for Iran. Remember when everybody out there was like, World War 3 will start. China's not going to let Iran get wiped out. Russia is not going to let Iran get wiped out. This is the weakest alliance. It's like a WWE alliance for those of you who are wrestling fans, where you look over your shoulder when you're in a tag team match and your boy is now, you know, in. Has joined, is now in cahoots with the other side. There was no alliance here. There is no support anywhere for Iran from any country. It's kind of extraordinary to see just based on the way we were all told. Oh, you got to be careful. Iran's got powerful allies. Yeah, they ran and they were not there at all. I want to tell you. Tunnel the towers born on America's darkest day of 9 11. We're coming up on the 25th anniversary of 9 11. We are in the 21st, 25th anniversary year. And we've got a story here about one of America's heroes. Robert Welsh, New York City firefighter. Robert served as a police officer before his appointment to the fire department in 2001, just weeks after the 911 attacks. He was on the front lines of recovery efforts. Robert dedicated nearly two decades of his life to protecting his community. He coached youth sports, shared a great life with his wife Jennifer and their three kids. But Robert lost his courageous battle with 911 related cancer, leaving behind his family. In this 25th anniversary year of 9 11, we continue to see the toll that day is still taking on heroes and their families. The Tunnel the Towers honored Robert by playing the well by paying the Welsh family's mortgage. Show your support as both Buck and I have done. We love this organization. Frank Siller does an amazing job. I'm happy to be able to help them. You can join us and donate $11 a month. Amplify your impact with a car or land donation. Go to t2t.org that's t the number two t.org Patriots radio hosts a couple of regular guys, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We'll get some of your talk back, some of your thoughts about all of this, for sure. We'll also discuss the situation of Cuba because I think, Clay, there was a time when Trump could say some aggressive things about the future of Cuba and a lot of people might have dismissed it and said, you know, that's just Trump being Trump. But given what's happened in Venezuela, given what's going on right now in Iran and the fact that Cuba is effectively in the dark, the power grid is down.

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

And you have to think about what this means, everyone. This means no lights. Yes. It also means refrigeration is down. It means communications are down, logistics, computers, you know, to the degree they have them, these are all huge problems.

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

And you have to wonder what stops this and what the outcome is going to be if this continues on.

[Clay Travis]

Well, this is what we said on the program. Everybody focused on Venezuela. But really what Venezuela did was isolate Cuba because Venezuela had been providing millions of barrels of oil at reduced prices to Cuba. Mexico had two. So there was sort of this Latin American beneficial treatment that Cuba was getting. And once you replaced Maduro Delsey Rodriguez as part of her coming into power, was told, hey, the free treatment basically for Cuba is done and Cuba's isolated. And I think President Trump, we'll talk about this at the top of the next hour. I think President Trump has got a significant decision to make and certainly Marco Rubio does. Our Secretary of State, who probably knows more about Cuba than anybody in the government based on his family's history. What do we do? There's 8.5 million Cubans in Cuba. I believe there's 1.6 million ish Cubans, many of whom are listening to us right now. Majority in South Florida, but all over the country. Cuba is a jewel of the Caribbean. It could rapidly become an economic Heavyweight. I really do believe that. And, well, in tourism. Yeah, tourism. Well, yeah, but I mean. But I mean, people could live instead of driving around the 1950s, you know, cars. Given the proximity to the United States, every cruise ship would be stopping in Cuba. You would be flooded with United States tourists. Again, it used to be Las Vegas before it was Las Vegas. I think Cuba would really be a very successful economic turnaround story. But how do we handle it? And how do we end up with somebody who is outside of the Communist Party in charge of Cuba? And again, there's a Supreme Court case, Buck, that's not getting a lot of attention. That has to do with the takings. 95% of Cuban property was owned by United States interest in terms of corporate property, and the Communist government just took it away. And so I think there's probably a lot of American companies with claims to assets in Cuba that would love the opportunity to have access to those again. So all of that is playing out, to say nothing of the geopolitical implications of not having an enemy of the country within 90 miles of key West. I think this is a potentially transformative time, and it has a bit of an echo feeling for when the Berlin Wall came down to me because of Venezuela, Iran and Cuba, all American adversaries being staggered collectively as one. I think it's a big picture story that is being undercovered under, discussed, and potentially could be foundationally transformational to the country. That's my optimistic side. Buck, as the pessimist probably will say, the communists will stay in power. Iran's gonna be the exact same. We're just gonna have to bomb them every few years.

[Buck Sexton]

And.

[Clay Travis]

Well, you are somewhat optimistic on Venezuela.

[Buck Sexton]

At least Venezuela is gonna be a little bit better than it was. What happened to Greenland, by the way? I thought we were. I thought we're on the cusp of doing a Clay and Buck show from Greenland, but apparently not.

[Clay Travis]

How about Alberta? That's actually potentially a play. Trump tweeted that Venezuela could be the 51st state. There's talk that Alberta is going to try to secede from Canada. That's their oil and gas behemoth in. In America's top hat. And they want to come join us down here in the good old USA

[Buck Sexton]

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