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Buck Sexton
Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton show coming to you across the nation. Buck is in la, I am here in Nashville and we are taking you into what hopefully will be a fantastic Weekend for all of you, no matter what part of the country you are in. President of the United States at the Ryder Cup. I don't know if you follow the Ryder cup at all, Buck, but it is taking place in New York City area and we are getting smoked early by the Euros, which is not a good start. Competition between the European golfers and the American golfers. We are down 3:1. Some of the videos of Trump flying over the golf course of the usa Chance, it's pretty awesome. And so I know many of you are going to be following this throughout the course of the weekend. Farmingdale, N.Y. buck, is where Beth Page Black is hosting this. It's a public course. Beth Page, one of the great golf courses in America. And that is where Trump is going to be. Would not surprise me. We've got some audio of Trump speaking as he was boarding alongside of his granddaughter Kai, who we met Buck up at the Trump Course in New Jersey at Bedminster before she was a golfer who is a college athlete now at the University of Miami. So they flew together to go to watch the tournament. I bet a huge percentage of our audience is paying attention here. Buck, do you know anything about the Ryder Cup?
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Clay Travis
No, but I want to know, has President Trump ever seen the famous Clay Travis swing? Because I've seen it on video.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. He has lied and said that the Clay Travis golf swing is good, which is a sign that Trump is actually a really nice guy. He's a great man.
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Clay Travis
He's a great guy.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. In fact, maybe we could grab. I don't think we played it, but producer Greg I'm sure saw it. Scotty Scheffler, who is the best golfer in the world, talked about what Trump is like on his golf courses and hanging out around the golf community. What's amazing is all the Euro golfers love him, too. So this is going to be Trump in his element. That is where he is right now. Now, he broke a couple of news stories as he was about to board Marine One to begin the process of flying up there this weekend. In fact, he said that he thought they had potentially a deal in Gaza, which would obviously be a huge deal if we finally got a ceasefire nearly two years to the day after the October 7 terror attacks from Hamas. But President Trump, not surprisingly, the biggest story, and we're going to dive into this in detail and we will walk you through everything, is yesterday evening news broke that James Comey, former FBI director, had been had been indicted. And here is Trump saying Comey lied. He lied a lot. This was just a little bit earlier as he was flying to the Ryder Cup. Cut to.
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Donald Trump
This about justice. He lied. He lied a lot. But this was a very important thing. This was. He could have said, well, maybe or I don't remember. He didn't say that. He gave a very specific answer and then he verified it numerous times and he got caught. The problem that Comey has is he got caught lying and he was very strong. It's not like well, maybe or I don't remember or he gave a very specific answer because it was a very powerful question, a very important question. And when he gave the answer, the only problem is he got caught.
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Buck Sexton
Okay, that's cut to here's cut four buck of Trump again saying this is not a hard case. He lied. He didn't think he was going to get caught. Cut four.
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Donald Trump
It's a pretty easy case because look, he lied. You saw my truth today. He lied.
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Buck Sexton
It was.
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Donald Trump
Yes. No, he didn't say. Well, in my opinion he didn't do a lot of things that maybe he should have, but I don't think he could because he lied. That was a very important question that he was asked and he wanted to be specific, but he didn't. The only thing that happened to him, he didn't think he'd get caught. That was a very important answer and it was very for him, it was a very good answer if he didn't get caught, but he got caught lying to Congress.
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Buck Sexton
Okay, so charges now from Northern Virginia. This is a very blue area. We talked about this some yesterday, Alexandria area, two different charges brought and indicted against Comey by the grand jury. Buck, you covered this Russia mess way more than me. What's your reaction?
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Clay Travis
Well, I think for a lot of people the sense is finally something has been done, finally there could be, and I want to emphasize could there could be accountability for the. This is more than just the lies that Comey told because the lies were in the service of the Russia collusion hoax. So the lies that Comey told and as Trump was hammering there, these are material lies. Right? These are lies that have meaning and significance. It's not oh, in a three hour long FBI sit down, which as Clay has told you, never without a lawyer. Never without a lawyer. That is the most. Whenever you talk to the FBI in the three hour long sit down, you forgot what you had for breakfast last week that you would be able to argue even if it was untrue or incorrect, it's immaterial in this case. Trump has made it clear it is quite material it is an important issue of fact that he was lying about and the lie was part of obstructing justice, which is why that charge has also come to the forefront. But now here's where we get to analyze what comes next of it. So on the one hand, I think, Clay, this, this needed to happen because there was a clear two tiered system of justice at work. And Comey, I might add, has been a pioneer or on the forefront of that. And a lot of people are pointing out, myself included, that Comey was far and away the guy who wanted Martha Stewart prosecuted for what was really a he said, she said on a phone call with the broker about conduct that was not actually criminal. She did not actually do anything illegal other than she said that they did, that he did. You know, she did say she was going to sell or whatever it was. There was some dispute over what was said on that phone call. And the broker, I think with the broker it was, we'll say what we want you to say and you get to walk clean and free. Right? That's easy. So people realize that Comey has been using its, you know, it's US code 1001 is the lying to the FBI statute or it's really lying to federal agents, but the FBI is the one that uses it the most. This is something that he's been a big proponent of. So it feels like what's good for the goose is good for the gander. That's part one of it. The other thing is, as we love to say on the show, the process is the punishment. And that's important to keep in mind here. The process is part of accountability. The decision to prosecute is itself a punishment, which is why prosecutors have such a fearsome level of power in this country, because the decision to prosecute is usually a decision to destroy, even if you're innocent, going to cost you a ton of money, it's going to hurt your reputation, all that stuff. But now, Clay, we can get into. And I know, I know you're going to have strong thoughts on this one. You alluded to this. It's in Northern Virginia. It's at a. The judge is, I think an Obama appointee. That's correct, right?
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Buck Sexton
Yes.
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Clay Travis
Obama appointee, Judge, Northern Virginia, a roughly 80% Democrat jurisdiction. And all it takes is one purple haired resistance cat lady or guy who works at the Commerce Department or whatever to say, I'm just not letting anybody who goes after Trump go to prison. I don't care what for. And at worst, you get, you're at Either a hung jury or an acquittal. So I want everyone's expectations to be kept in line here. I think it's the right move because it's what's true and what the statutes require. But I don't know if we're going to get to a conviction.
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Buck Sexton
I'm impressed that they got a grand jury indictment. They got two of them. They reportedly brought three. One was struck down and not given the indictment. Two of the three were. But what Buck just hit is the key. I mean this is what I've been saying and I understand people get upset that I even talk about it. We're playing with a rigged justice system. By being required to get indictments in D.C. area cases that are predicated on blue strongholds, Democrats will indict Republicans for anything. We have a 95, 5 in Washington D.C. to Buck's point, it's probably 80, 20, 75, 25 in Northern Virginia. And so I think there's going to be at least one juror who refuses to convict no matter what the evidence shows. It wouldn't shock me, Buck, if this Obama appointed judge finds a reason to toss these indictments. Um, I, I think you have to prepare yourself for the fact that you are not on an even playing field. From a sports analogy, you're starting off and the scoreboards already got you down 21 points before you even snap the ball. And I, I think this is the right result. I give credit to the prosecutors. The son in law of Comey was in the Northern District of Virginia. Did you see this? He resigned. The son in law is inside of the office. I mean this is one of the craziest things I've ever seen. Now I'm sure they tried to wall him off I would think from being involved in investigating his father in law. But the fact that this guy is employed there is a sign of how deep the swamp is. Wasn't it Maureen Comey? He's employed in New York in the most important federal district there.
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Clay Travis
These people who messed up the, the.
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Buck Sexton
Diddy case and then she got forced out and now I think she's suing or something like that. These people, man, they rigged this system in so many different ways to have their allies. And here is what I've said for a long time you've been on this but I think the average person has just become aware of it. Violent crime is relatively easy to prosecute in theory. If you run up to somebody with a gun and you rob them, it's pretty self evident that a crime happened. If a Dead body shows up with bullet holes and.
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Mark from North Carolina
And.
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Buck Sexton
Or stab wounds or something is a pretty good sign that a murder happened. Where these prosecutors have all their power is, I guarantee you, everyone listening out there who thinks that they have led an upstanding life and never done anything wrong. If a federal prosecutor decided to investigate you and spent a year going through every tax return you've ever filed and spent a year asking you to sit down for every interview and examined every property transfer you've ever been involved in, ever employment contract you've ever signed, they would find a way to prosecute you. And that is where the will and the power of the state has been marshaled. It was used against Trump, and now we'll see if Comey can be convicted of crimes. But spare me all the hand wringing. We told you this. When they crossed the Rubicon and indicted Trump in New York, in Georgia, in Florida, and in D.C. the gloves were officially off. All of that came at the direct behest of Joe Biden. So spare me the oh, my goodness, our republic is now being challenged. If you didn't say a word when they came after Trump, it's very straightforward for me.
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Clay Travis
Did he break the law? And you know what's interesting is that there used to be this presumption I think of, oh, well, because of the politics involved, maybe we let this one slide. I'm not saying I agree with that presumption. I'm just saying, oh, the former FBI director, it's bad for. It's a bad look for all of us if you were to go after somebody like that. And then they went after a former president and current president now four times with absolute garbage prosecutions. So they crossed the Rubicon over and over. I mean, the Rubicon doesn't even exist anymore. They've erased the Rubicon, all right? They pushed so that there's no more political question overriding a legal question. And in fact, I would argue they took it even further where they fabricated a legal issue that for in the service of politics. What I'm saying here, Clay, is if Comey broke the law, the law is the law. He presided over plenty of prosecutions. Remember, he was a U.S. attorney previously, before he was at the FBI. He's really a lawyer. He's not like a G man FBI guy. For his career, he was a lawyer and a very politically, you know, maneuverable one in the Justice Department, and then eventually found himself all the way at the head of the FBI. He sent plenty of people to prison for exactly this, lying in the course of an investigation, and he would have sent Donald Trump to prison for heaven knows what. He was the one who orchestrated. And we played that audio for everybody yesterday. The destruction and prosecution. Actually, you know, the career destruction and prosecution of General Michael Flynn. And he thinks it's funny. So, you know what? I think this is funny. I think Comey should have to lawyer up. I think it's a fair prosecution based upon the facts presented in the case. And I think that we now have to have one system of justice for all of us to operate under. And, you know, they're the ones that pushed into the Lavrenti Beria category. You know, the old head of the nkvd, which people think of as the kgb, but it was called the nkvd, who said, you show me the man, I'll show you the crime. They did that to Trump. They fabricated crimes. This is. Comey broke the law. Let's see what happens.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, and look, somebody broke the law for sure. Because if you compare, and if you want to get into the nitty gritty, and maybe we will a bit, if you compare the testimony, I think it was Senator Ted Cruz who really kind of went at the details here. If you compare the testimony relating to Russia collusion about whether or not there was any instruction to leak information, one, I think it was McCabe testified, yes, there was an instruction to leak information. And then Comey says, no, there was no instruction. Well, both can't be telling the truth. So someone is lying, and we know there was a leak. So how someone is lying, Someone is lying. Someone broke the law.
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Clay Travis
Either one of them spending six months in a, you know, minimum security federal federal prison, or federal camp, as I think they call them, sometimes seems like it could. It seems like it could be a fair outcome. Will it happen? I think that's different. That's not very likely, but we'll see. But there also could be other indictments, which we should talk about here in a second. We'll get to that. But it's big news. Comey indicted, finally. He's such. He's such a punk. Honestly. I really. You know, the emailer yesterday was like, Buck gets fired up about Comey because, Clay, I was following the Russia collusion thing very, very closely, and the President was retweeting a lot of my assessments of what was going on with the Russia collusion. And Comey was an abs. Absolute dirtbag over the whole thing. All right, look, a weekend from now, not this Saturday, but next Sunday, October 5th, you're likely to see remarkable display of humanity. You'll see Israeli flags on full display in your community and it's not too late for you to join them. This is a movement of support for the people of Israel called Flags of Fellowship, organized by the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. The date is next Sunday, October 5th, just 10 days away. Millions of Americans across our nation will plant an Israeli flag in honor and solidarity with the victims of the Hamas terrorist attack on October 7, two years ago in Israel. And now you can be a part of this movement too. To get more information about how you can join the Flags of Fellowship movement, visit the fellowship online@ifcj.org that's ifcj.org making.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. Just to give you a sense of where we're going today, a lot of things happening. We're discussing the Comey indictment that came down in Northern Virginia. We've also got a showdown in Broadview, Illinois at an ICE facility. A bunch of left wing hashtag resist, anti immigration enforcement protesters. There's been pepper balls, pepper spray, all kinds of stuff deployed here. They're acting like maniacs. Clay. We did call this, I might say, I might want to remind you everyone early on this was always going to be the thing that brought the Democrats together in opposition was deportations. So we've expected this the whole time. I will say they've been a little slower in their organization against this or a little less effective maybe than anticipated. But this is becoming the thing that they are all obsessed with trying to stop the government from doing and push back on. Also, just to give you a heads up, everybody we've got here, Jack Cittarelli will be with us. He is running for governor of New Jersey. We heard those numbers yesterday from our friend Ryan Gardusky. Want to talk to him about that very important race. Want to hear from him. I think he can win. I would, I will say that I think he can win. Now that's not the same as Will and Byron Donalds. Congressman Donalds will be with us, possibly the next governor of the great state of Florida, which matters a lot to me because I love Florida because I live there. So good things, good things.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
I would also remind everyone, because it matters, the standards that we are supposed to apply in these situations. The standard is just supposed to be the law and the facts. Right. It has been shifting, though. And if we allow the other side to bring prosecutions that are nonsense and we never bring prosecution, even when there's a violation of law, that is an imbalance that we just can't abide as a country. I mean, the violence that that does to the concept of the rule of law is just going to continue to get worse. You know, the destruction of that concept. I would also remind everyone, whether it's the Washington Post or CNN or any of the voices out there that are chirping about how terrible this is right now. Where were they when Bannon and Navarro, who were senior White House advisers, were sent to prison? Yeah, let's remember, not just indicted, not just prosecuted, actually made to go live in a cell for six months, something like that. Whatever the time period was, they thought that was for contempt of Congress. Yeah, for contempt of Congress. Why wasn't that the worst moment in American democracy, you know, in years? Why wasn't that the destruction of norms? They love to talk about norms. Destruction of norms means they get to do whatever they want and we have to play by their rules. Those are the only norms that actually matter to them. And this is saying enough is enough with it. I think it. Absolutely. I think it's not just a good thing, Clay. I think this is a necessary thing that we are seeing.
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Buck Sexton
So to me, the question now, so we've got the indictments. You have to get the indictments upheld in some way by the Obama appointed judge that has been assigned this case. So prepare for ample roadblocks. There potentially even a way to dismiss these charges. And then you've got the jury pool to. To deal with, which will be slanted very strongly in Comey's favor. But the real question that I have is, can they get someone to testify to help prove that Comey lied? That is, is there someone out there, as this investigation is expanding, that will, under oath, raise their right hand and say these leaks happened at the direct order of James Comey? Because then the perjury charge is very easy for a jury to understand. Because right now, the challenge with jury juries applying perjury charges is we know that somebody lied under oath to Congress. That is 100% true. Because the statements that were made both cannot be true. That I have seen from Andrew McCabe and from James Comey. So either McCabe lied or Comey lied. I don't believe there's a way that even an artful lawyer could argue that both of those comments were true. You have conflicting stories. Under oath, having been told. So is there going to be in this trial that eventually emerges? Will there be an opportunity to truly kind of come after Comey with witnesses saying he lied? And here are the specifics of those lies. That's the question to me, that's going to emerge in this case.
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Clay Travis
I also think if you want to know whether somebody has any principles whatsoever in this discussion, and I mean the public figures, Democrats and pundits and everyone who's weighing in, but you can establish this is a clear litmus test. Okay. This is as straightforward as it could be. If this person, whoever it is, who's upset about this person's upset about the Comey indictment, I want to see them absolutely apoplectic about Trump being charged with. Was it 37 or 31 felonies?
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Buck Sexton
I thought it was 34, but they all together. Sorry. I think it's 34 city. 34. I think in New York City, felony charges.
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Clay Travis
Elsewhere, 34 felony charges, and using the. Getting rid of a basic principle in prosecution, which is, you know, if somebody's being arrested. I've explained this before, but I know this from prosecutors that I've worked with in the past when I was the nypd. If somebody has drugs, okay, and you're going to charge them for illegal drug sale, illegal drug possession, and you have them on video and they pass the crack pipe between each other 10 times, you actually charge them once for crack possession and maybe once for crack, you don't charge them 10 times for that. Right. Even though you could theoretically make that argument. That is what they did to Trump. They charged him for every version of the ledger that would. That existed, where they said he misrepresented his own internal accounting business, business practices, it is insane. If someone was not deeply upset at the abuse that Alvin Bragg engaged in, in New York against Trump, they have absolutely no grounds to say anything about any principle involved with Comey. And I might add, I don't think that Trump even broke any law at all. I know you agree with me. Full stop in New York. Not even close. I think Comey actually broke. I believe it's alleged. We'll see in court. I think he broke the law, I.
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Buck Sexton
Think he's a liar, and I think.
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Clay Travis
That he lied under oath, and that's illegal.
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Buck Sexton
I think there's also. You talk about breaking the. Breaking the, the, the precedent, crossing the Rubicon, whatever Way you want to phrase it, Comey is insignificant. They tried to put President Trump in prison and bankrupt him for the rest of his life. So for people out there saying, well, this is unbelievable, no, what would be an eye for an eye justice would be Joe Biden goes out in handcuffs and is charged in four different red state jurisdictions and gets his mug shot taken and sits in a courtroom for months being tried on relatively insignificant charges. We're not even talking about an eye for an eye. This is like we lost an eye and we like have given them a, a hangnail.
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Mark from North Carolina
Right?
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Buck Sexton
Like this is, this is not remotely equal justice in any way. And to your point, Buck, if you were really fired up about it, then you would point out that these are not equal situations remotely.
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Clay Travis
Comey, if he is found guilty, and I want to be very clear, we've said all along, I don't think anyone's going to prison over this stuff of these deep state people, that's been a shared assessment. But that, that's, remember, that's different than I don't think they should. I do think that Comey, if he is. I think that if Comey broke the law and we'll see the facts as presented, I believe he did, so does this grand jury, or at least they think there's enough to bring the indictment. But I think that he should be punished for this. But even if he, even if he is punished for this, he's going to go, it's going to be as very similar, most likely, to what you saw with Bannon and Navarro, where you'll go to a minimum security and he'll probably be in the seniors wing. So I don't know if they have like tennis courts there. But, you know, he'd be there for something like six months, maybe. Maybe. Would there even be any kind of carceral sentence based in fairness, Would there be a carceral sentence off this? Probably, but, you know, not very long. I know people will say, oh, but it's a five year statutory maximum. That's if you're like lying about who gave you the grenades before the terrorist attack and they can't get you on the terrorism or they want to add it into the terrorism, they're generally not going to hit you with the full five. I mean, the judge is not going to hit you with the full five years for something like this. That may be disappointing to people to hear, but Clay, I just think to keep it in perspective, if he's found guilty, you know, he's looking at anywhere from a zero to Six month prison sentence for this, maybe zero to a year, Maybe a year, something like that.
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Buck Sexton
It may also have to go all the way to the Supreme Court. Like, I just, I want people to understand what to expect. You're going to be dealing with a rigged jury pool. You're going to be dealing with a judge that is skeptical of any Trump prosecution. You're likely going to be. If he was convicted, which I'm skeptical will happen, you're going to get an immediate appeal. He's not like he's going to be taken into custody. He will appeal. It will go to a federal circuit court which probably will be favorable to him and it could go all the way to the Supreme Court before there's any result. That's in the event of a conviction, which I still think is unlikely. So if you were asking me right now, Clay, what do you think the chances are? What are the, what is the probability that, that James Comey ever is convicted and goes to prison? 10%. Yeah, I think, I think that's right. Still very unlikely that this guy ever goes to prison and is convicted.
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Clay Travis
But we'll see. We're not on that jury and we're not the judge, so.
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Buck Sexton
But the indictments have occurred which as you've said for some time, Buck, to be fair, oftentimes the process is the penalty. Yes, it has certainly been the case for a lot of Trump related prosecutions.
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Clay Travis
Well, that's why I think at a minimum, there's now an understanding that there can be a cost for people who abuse the system for political reasons to go after Republicans. That's really what this is. We talk about the deep state. It's people or not even really Republicans. It's more just Trump and Trump supporters like we saw with Bannon and Navarro and others. We'll take your calls here in a second and I'm sure you have a lot of thoughts on this one. So light us up, my friends. Mark my words. We'll see a number of headlines in the weeks ahead about the size of our federal deficit, growing and growing. It all ties into whatever budget comes out of the Senate. With a deadline looming in the future, that budget is gonna mean the printing presses go. It's gonna making lots of money happen. Now, I know it's actually digital on a screen, but you get the idea. 37, 38, 39, we're going to be at $40 trillion soon. This is just the reality that we face. So owning gold makes sense. It doesn't have to be a huge quantity. It should really just be a portion of your portfolio and diversifying your savings and retirement accounts with some gold makes sense as a hedge against inflation. Also, preparation for future economic uncertainty and rough waters until September 30th. This coming Tuesday. Birch Gold Group that's who I trust. They've got an offer for first time gold buyers. Birch Gold is offering a rebate of up to $10,000 in free metals on qualifying purchases. To claim eligibility and start the process, request an info kit now. Just text my name Buck to 989898 + Birch Gold can help you roll an existing IRA or 401k into an IRA in gold and you're still eligible for a rebate in free metals of up to $10,000. Diversify with gold like I do from Birch Gold Group. Make now your first time to buy gold or add to gold you've already got. Take advantage of a rebate of up to $10,000 when you buy by September 30th. Text my name Buck that's B U c. K. Text Buck to 98.98.98 to claim your eligibility again, text Buck to 989898 Birchgold Group will get you started.
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Clay Travis
Gonna get to your calls here in a second. There's pretty clear love for Trump going on at the Ryder cup as Clay mentioned. Wanted you to hear it play 30. I would say that the, the general golf audience that the true devoted golf audience, probably as pro Trump as a lot of the talk radio audience. I think you're going to see a lot of crossover there.
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Buck Sexton
Look, I think this is awesome. Trump is sitting near the tee box and I just shared this video. Scotty Scheffler, best golfer in the world, walking up to the tee box, gives a point and a fist pump at President Trump. And then J.J. spawn, who I believe is his partner, does a Trump YMCA dance right behind him. So US Is trailing three to one. A lot of Euros talking trash. But we have started off well with Scheffler and Spawn taking a lead in their match. And it's really fun even if you're not a golf person. This is a really cool USA it has sort of an Olympics feel to it. USA against Europe. Every two years Ryder cup takes place. They alternate playing in Europe or playing in the United States. And this is a great golf course, perfect to weather. I love the fact that the president's there. It does feel culturally significant that everybody's kind of coming together around him in the golf world.
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Clay Travis
It's, it's nice that, you know, Europe can compete with us in something, you know, we want to give them something, you know, this and soccer or football as they call it. So, you know, we want, we want to be nice. We want to be nice to our neighbors across the pond.
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Buck Sexton
Phil in North Carolina, by the way, I bet there's a lot of you doing this. He is listening to watch us while watching the Ryder Cup.
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Clay Travis
That's pro right there. Pro level.
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Buck Sexton
That is. That is. You got to have multimedia screen action going on right now. Phil, you wanted to give us a view of what Trump looks and looks like right now while you're watching.
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Mark from North Carolina
This is amazing. You know, seeing the President on the number one tee out there watching them. Especially when Shambo is, you know, knocking at 309, you know. Yeah, it's. Everybody's got a what even. Like you said, even if you don't like golf, you can't help but watch. You know, it's just, it's a good. It's good stuff. It's good tv. I mean, it's. No, it's not. There's no politics. Even though the president's there, there's no politics involved in it.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, the president should want America to kick everybody's ass. This is what the president should be doing. Right. I mean, by the way, I think Trump next year, Buck for the World cup and then in 28 at the Olympics. I don't. You can criticize Trump for a lot, as obviously his critics do. Being the most pro America sports president maybe we've ever seen is. I don't see how that's a bad idea. How that's a bad thing.
- [43:43]
Clay Travis
We got America's big birthday coming up, too.
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Buck Sexton
Yes, good point. Which is going to.
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Clay Travis
We're going to. We got America number one for a long time, my friend. So we're excited about that. That's going to be, I think, a lot of fun. Here we go. BB we got a talk back from Mark in North Carolina. This is talkback. BB Hit it.
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Mark from North Carolina
Hey, Clay and Buck, it's Mark in North Carolina.
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Clay Travis
One thing about the comey situation is even if they don't get a conviction, it'll be very gratifying to bankrupt that smug jerk.
- [44:11]
Mark from North Carolina
Let him spend all his money on defense attorneys and representing himself just like.
- [44:16]
Clay Travis
The left has done to our side for years and years and years. Well, I don't know what his finances are. I have a feeling that if he sets up a GoFundMe, a lot of hashtag resistance libs are going to pay for his legal bills. But, but I hear what you're saying, Mark. I feel, I feel your sentiment on that one.
- [44:35]
Buck Sexton
But smug comey lawyers are going to give their representation to him for free candidate.
- [44:43]
Clay Travis
That's unfortunately probably what's going to happen here because yep, their team gets away with a lot of stuff. We'll talk more about the ice standoff and a lot of stuff. Stuff coming up here in a second. Stay with us.
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