Hour 1 - MABA: Make American Babies Again

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 1 – MABA: Make American Babies Again
Date: October 3, 2025
Host: Clay Travis
Notable Topic: Buck Sexton is on assignment in Taiwan

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Episode Overview

In this hour, Clay Travis covers a range of breaking news and political commentary with his characteristic blend of intelligence, humor, and straight talk. The main thread is the “MABA: Make American Babies Again” theme—exploring demographic trends, political messaging, the cultural divide, and their long-term consequences for the American electorate. Clay touches on the government shutdown, the stock market’s record performance, violent political expressions, and the power of cultural marketing in politics. The show is interactive, with Clay promising listener calls and teasing an upcoming interview about protests in Portland.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Stock Market Highs vs. Political Turmoil (00:04–04:30)

• Key Point: Despite ongoing political shutdowns, the stock market continues to hit record highs.
• Quote:

  "If you are out there and you just bought S&P 500 index funds... congratulations, you have got more money than you ever have had in the history of your 401k." — Clay Travis [01:17]

• Clay is optimistic about the American economy, highlighting investors' resilience and criticizing doomsday predictions made earlier in the year.

2. Crime and Federal Intervention in Memphis (04:30–06:30)

• Key Point: Clay spotlights the Trump administration's intervention in Memphis to combat crime—a positive story he feels is underreported due to geographic media bias.
• Quote:

  "If it happens in New York city or Washington D.C. or LA, there are tons of media there... if it happens in the middle part of the country... people don't pay attention to it." — Clay Travis [05:13]

3. Portland Protests and Nick Sorter Arrest (07:10–08:30 & 17:23–19:50)

• Upcoming Segment: Investigative journalist Nick Sorter will join the show next hour to discuss being arrested while covering Antifa protests in Portland.
• Background: Sorter was reportedly attacked by protestors for protecting the American flag and subsequently arrested by local police.

4. Main Theme: Birth Rates, Demographics, and Ideological Worldview (08:30–20:00)

• Key Point: Using data from Ryan Gardusky, Clay observes that most U.S. births are in Trump-voting areas, linking this to optimism and belief in the future.
• Quote:

  “If you’re not willing to have children, you are effectively saying, I don’t believe in the future. I don’t buy into the idea that humanity is going to lead us to a better place.” — Clay Travis [10:38]

• Clay argues that the Democratic Party’s message is not just being unheard—it’s being rejected due to its negativity and pessimism.
• He points out that Democratic messaging has become so dark that even staunch supporters are reportedly choosing not to have children.

5. Political Violence, Social Unrest, and the Shutdown (12:00–15:50)

• Key Point: Clay links left-leaning political messaging to radicalized behavior—escalating from personal pessimism (not wanting children) to acts of violence.
• Quote:

  “Democrats... are saying, things are so bad now, America is so awful that I don’t want to bring children into this country.” — Clay Travis [13:30]

• He warns that continuing on this path could lead to even more violence and that the party’s base is “toxic and sick,” influencing broader society negatively.

6. Long-Term Electoral Consequences for the Democrats (15:50–18:00)

• Key Point: Demographic and census changes will shift electoral votes toward red states, making it almost impossible for Democrats to win presidential elections after 2032 unless they win in the South.
• Quote:

  “The next census is going to basically make it impossible for Democrats to win a presidential election.” — Clay Travis [16:22]

7. Economic Commentary – Inflation and Biden vs. Trump Era (19:50–23:16)

• Key Point: Despite solid economic growth, people still “feel” the aftermath of Biden-era inflation. Clay predicts it will take several years for a sense of price normalcy to return.
• Quote:

  "We need probably five years of 2%, 2½% inflation in order... to normalize and get used to the rapid increase in prices that occurred during the Biden administration." — Clay Travis [20:56]

8. Socialist Messaging and Pop Culture in New York City Politics (23:16–29:18)

• Key Point: Clay analyzes the political strategy of Zoran Mamdani, a socialist candidate in NYC, who ran an ad during The Bachelor using cultural cues to connect with young voters.
• Audio Excerpt:

  “Listen, you deserve better. You deserve to be able to raise your family here, to be safe… That’s the kind of mayor I promise to be. New York, will you accept this rose?” — Zoran Mamdani [26:01]

• Clay’s Take:

  “He’s good at cutting through the noise because, oh, he watches The Bachelor too. He’s giving us a rose. How bad of a guy could he be?” — Clay Travis [26:32]

• Clay cautions conservatives not to dismiss such tactics, referencing Trump’s own cultural savvy as key to his political success.

9. Generational Divide and Understanding Young Voters (35:29–38:50)

• Call-in: Bob from Minnesota points out that 25-year-olds see capitalism as something that hasn’t worked for them, thus are open to alternatives.
• Clay’s Response: He agrees that decision-making improves with age, citing research pegging peak decision-making at 57, and suggests younger voters lack the lived experience to value capitalism.
• Quote:

  “25 year olds, they need 32 more years of life experience to understand how much they didn’t know when they thought they knew it all.” — Clay Travis [38:37]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On optimism, babies, and politics:

  “If you're not willing to have children, you are effectively saying, I don't believe in the future.” — Clay Travis [10:38]

• On government messaging:

  “One of the real challenges that the Democrat Party has is not that its messaging is being unheard, it's that its message is being heard. And it's so profoundly dark…” — Clay Travis [11:54]

• On pop culture strategy:

  “You have to go where people are, and you have to confront them. These girls saw that ad, and they're like, oh, he's where we are. He's watching The Bachelor, too.” — Clay Travis [27:03]

• On the generational gap:

  "Decision making peaks on average at 57 years old. Why is that?... you have lived long enough to have learned by 57 and you have not lived so long that your overall brain function has began to decline." — Clay Travis [37:46]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Stock Market and Economic Opener: 00:04–04:30
• Memphis Crime Coverage: 04:30–06:30
• Preview of Nick Sorter Portland Interview: 07:10–08:30 & 17:23–19:50
• Main Theme—Demographics and Political Worldview: 08:30–20:00
• Violence and Shutdown Analysis: 12:00–15:50
• Electoral Future for Democrats: 15:50–18:00
• Economy, Inflation Critique: 19:50–23:16
• Zoran Mamdani/Bachelor Political Ad Analysis: 23:16–29:18
• Generational/Caller Perspective: 35:29–38:50

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Tone and Style

Clay Travis’s delivery is candid, sometimes provocative, frequently humorous, and always assertive. He leverages pop culture and data, peppering his commentary with analogies and stories to connect controversial issues with the everyday experience of his listeners. The episode’s language is energetic and conversational, inviting listener participation and challenging conventional narratives about culture and politics.

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Summary

This episode serves as an incisive, unapologetic critique of leftist cultural pessimism and political strategy while championing optimism, family growth, and a culturally attuned approach to political messaging. Clay contends that messaging, not methods, are leading Democrats astray with both voters and cultural trends. He praises those in “red” America for their optimism and openness to the future, warning that demographic realities—and continued left-wing negativity—are steering the electoral map irreversibly rightward. Clay closes with a reminder that savvy political marketing (on all sides) now depends on cultural fluency as much as policy prowess and that the experience gap between younger and older Americans is shaping core political debates.

Transcript

[Announcer]

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome in Friday Edition. Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Buck is still in Taiwan. He may be flying back. That's a long trip. I'm not sure exactly where he is, but I know he interviewed the president of Taiwan and he will be playing that for you on Monday. I'm sure telling you much about what he has learned in his overseas trip. We have got a loaded show with you. There's a ton of different breaking news stories that we are going to be tracking during the course of today's show. Of course, the shutdown is still ongoing. The stock market does not care some positivity to start off the day on Friday. Record highs across the board in the stock market again. So if you are out there and you just bought S&P 500 index funds and you've said, I don't know what the politics politicians are gonna do, but I'm just gonna invest in American companies, congratulations, you have got more money than you ever have had in the history of your 401k. Uh, the stock market has continued to set new highs over the past year. And remember it was only back in April that all of the experts told you that the economy was collapsing because of the decisions that President Trump had made instead of go ahead, learn it, they were wrong. The Dow to a record high today as we are all talking the NASDAQ to a record high and the S&P 500 all to record highs along with many of the stocks out there, including nearly. Although it's come back down a little bit. Tesla, remember when Mike Walls, sorry, Tim Walls, whatever the heck his name is, the governor of Minnesota held up his phone and said, boy, does anybody else get really excited when they see that Elon Musk Co. Stock is going down. Yeah, good move. I hope you sold all your stock. You because Tesla has continued to set new highs as we are rolling through the early days of fall. So that is going on. Memphis, I love this. I, I, I, I do think that if this were a city where people paid more attention to from a media perspective, the fact that the Trump administration has gone into Memphis, the fact that many of the leaders of Memphis have said, hey, we really need the help, crime is out of control. You heard some of our callers yesterday from the Memphis area. One of the things you learn, I know Rush talked about the drive by media all the time. If it happens in New York city or Washington D.C. or LA, there are tons of media there with microscopes basically just leaning right over and looking at every little minute detail if it happens in the middle part of the country. And I say this as a guy who's lived in the middle part of the country pretty much my entire life, oftentimes people don't pay attention to it. Um, and so the fact that we actually have a partnership going on in Memphis designed to drive down the murder rate in a city that per capita has one of the highest murder rates in the country is actually an incredibly successful and positive story. Of course not getting very much attention at all. There is to a large degree, as we enter, I think it's day three of the, of the shutdown, there is also sort of a recognition setting in. I think that Democrats have no idea what they want to do and they have no real message. And there are a bunch of things I want to talk about with that, by the way, also, ICE protests outside of a facility in Portland have spiraled out of control. There was a, a reporter arrested who is getting a lot of attention. They are now investigating somehow the Portland police can't investigate anyone but this guy who saved a would be burning American flag and was there reporting on it. He is going to join us. Nick Sorter is his name. He's going to join us at 10:05 Pacific. That is 105 on the east Coast. He is out in Portland. So we're going to talk about what he is seeing on the ground. I know we have a lot of you out in the Pacific Northwest, refugees in many ways you feel like from the insanity out there that listen to this program. So we will be talking with Nick about that. But I wanted to start with this idea because I saw our friend Ryan Garduski share a data point that some of you may have also seen out there. And he said, hey, the only place that's having babies is Trump voting areas. And that's a little bit of an exaggeration. But here is Gardusky's headline and I was reading it this morning as I was getting ready. Among the counties with the highest fertility rate so far in 2025, all of them voted for Donald Trump. 60.5% of the babies born in 2025 so far were in states that voted for Trump in the last election and he dives into the data. And I was thinking about this because my assistant Katie had her baby girl and we went to go visit Annie, who is one day old and I got to hold a one day old baby and I forgot I had three one day old babies at one point in my household, but I just forgot how small they are. And her in laws were there and she's doing great. And this is her second baby. And everybody's very excited. And if you are fortunate enough to have kids or grandkids that have recently joined your family, you know that feeling of just optimism and excitement. And we talked about this on the program because Buck's got a six month old. And it's hard not to be optimistic about the future and also committed to building a better future when you have a baby in your arms. And I was thinking about this in the context of the government shutdown and putting all this together as I was doing my reading and getting ready for the show today. And I was thinking about what is the message that Democrats are selling, such that the most ardent of all Democrat supporters have decided that they should not have children, that kids are too much of a drain on the climate, that we are headed for some form of apocalyptic future. And if you add children to the mix, that somehow you are making things worse and you, you are throwing them basically into the proverbial boiling pot and there's no hope. And I was thinking about that in the context of the shutdown. And I think one of the real challenges that the Democrat Party has is not that its messaging is being unheard, it's that its message is being heard. And it's so profoundly dark that even the people who buy into the message are making decisions that are worse than if they never listen to the message at all. This is a big picture analysis, but I think it all kind of ties together. If you're not willing to have children, you are effectively saying, I don't believe in the future. I don't buy into the idea that humanity is going to lead us to a better place. And I think it ties in with one of the questions that we asked that was so important in the aftermath of Trump's big win in November that so many of you and us all contributed to it was, what is the Democrat Party going to do with this? They had two options. They could look in the mirror and they could say the nation heard our message and they overwhelmingly rejected it. Or they could argue, as Kamala Harris is now doing in her book 107 Days, which Buck is reading and I cannot wait to hear his review of. Or they could argue as Kamala Harris did, we just didn't have enough time. Our message didn't get out there. It wasn't able to be heard by the American public. And Democrats are still focused on number two. They're focused on the message not being heard loud enough But I think that's profoundly wrong. I think the message of what they are selling is being heard and rejected, and it's being rejected by huge swaths of the population, white, black, Asian, Hispanic, reasonable, common sense, family oriented voters out there across the nation of a wide variety of backgrounds. Remember, all 50 states moved towards Trump in 2024. But it's not just that their message is being rejected by the American voter. It's that the people that are hearing their message and acting on it are actually making worse decisions for their lives. Think about that for a moment, because I don't know that we've ever really lived in an era where something like that could happen. Democrats that are the most committed, the most left wing in the country, they are hearing what their party is arguing and they are saying, things are so bad now, America is so awful that I don't want to bring children into this country. They are hearing what Democrats are arguing and they are saying, we have to kill President Trump because he is Hitler. They are hearing what Democrats are arguing and they are saying, we have to go kill Charlie Kirk. We can't argue against his message. His words are violence that we have to answer with violence of our own. They are burning down churches, they are going into schools, and they are killing innocent children at Christian schools in Minneapolis and in Nashville. They are trying to show up and kill Supreme Court Justices because they are concerned about what their rulings are going to do on the Roe v. Wade issue. You stitch all this together and the nation, thankfully, is rejecting the arguments being made by the Democrat Party. But the shutdown is being led by the far left of this party. The part of the party that is just angry and just demands that there be conflict and confrontation. And yet that element of the party is toxic and sick. And it's now infecting not only their political beliefs, but it's impacting in a very negative way the larger society around them, such that if you voted for Kamala Harris, you don't want to have kids. Now, long range, this is a very self defeating proposition because as Ryan Gardusky is saying in 2025, if 60.5% of kids are being born in Trump states and if Trump counties are overwhelmingly seeing population growth, well, this is a lot of babies being born for freedom. And the overall structural problems that confront the Democrat Party actually are profoundly more challenging going forward because theoretically, those families are going to raise their kids to be proud of America and to support freedom and to support the overall American way of life. But as they fall further behind and as their worldview becomes darker and more nihilistic, I think we have to all prepare ourselves for way more violence. And I don't think all of this has been put together necessarily. And a lot of people have thought about it. But the next census is going to basically make it impossible for Democrats to win a presidential election. No one is talking about this, but the only way Kamala could have won in 2024 was by winning Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. And she came about 220,000 votes ish away from winning those states. If she had, she would have won the electoral college. 270 to 268. 2028, we still have the existing census that's broken and didn't get things correct. 2032, that pathway is gone forever because way more electoral votes are shifting to the red states. And even if the Republican candidate in 2032 lost the so called blue wall of the Midwest, which I'm skeptical would happen, but even if that happened, that wouldn't be a pathway for the Democrat Party to win. Sooner or later they have to come down to the south and they have to start winning Southern states where I live. And I just don't think that's going to happen from a cultural perspective. I think those states where I live are all moving redder in a rapid fashion. And so this awful worldview that they are selling that leads right now to the government being shut down. And they don't really have any argument for why it needs to be shut down. They're just angry. This awful worldview that does not create babies like the baby I just went to go see, does not create optimism, does not create American ingenuity and an embrace of the human spirit and just basic optimism. It's leading the Democrat Party to a very dark place where unfortunately, I think we have to prepare ourselves for more Charlie Kirks. Because it's not that the Democrat message isn't being heard, it's being heard and rejected by sane people all across the United States, which is why all 50 states move towards Trump. But it's particularly being heard by the toxic base of the Democrat Party. And they are acting out in an angry fashion because the dark dystopian vision that is being shared by the Democrat Party is now motivating direct acts of political violence and just outrageous attacks on the idea of government even being open itself when there's nothing that they're even arguing for. It's just a anger, a lash out, the petulant fit of a child. That's where we are. And I think it's important to put all these things together and recognize where that's going to lead us. So that's what I was thinking about this morning. We'll take some of your calls, take some of your talk backs. We only have one guest as we try to get as many of your reactions in as we can on a Friday morning here as we head into the weekend. And I want to tell you maybe you're out there and you want to prepare. Looks like I knocked on wood. We're going to have a relatively relatively so far quiet. I hope it continues hurricane season, but tornadoes are going to be coming back through. 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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in Clay. Travis BUCK SEXTON SHOW Appreciate all of you as always hanging out with us on the Friday edition edition of the program. A lot of people weighing in on the situation going on in Portland and I want to give you a little bit of a preview. This is going to be at the top of the next hour. Portland is an amazing place and we have a great radio affiliate in Portland and we appreciate all of you who are listening there in that, in that city and in the surrounding communities. But they let of all the cities out there maybe other than Minneapolis, which obviously was directly connected to George Floyd, they let the crazy people take over the city of Portland and as a result it's been incredibly destructive to quality of life there and the battles are still ongoing. And a journalist by the name of Nick Sorter was there just covering what Antifa is doing in Portland outside of the ICE facilities. And they tried to burn a United States flag. He grabbed the flag, wouldn't allow them to do it. And later these Antifa lunatics attacked him and the Portland police arrested him for not allowing a flag to be burned and for being beaten up by Antifa in Portland. And so the United States. Pam Bondi, the attorney general has announced an investigation into his arrest. He's going to join us at the top of the next hour and just tell us the story of what he is seeing and out there in Portland. I think it's going to be very eye opening for many of us in the rest of the country. But that is one of the flashpoints that's going on right now when it comes to resistance to Trump's law and order. Do your gutters a favor this fall. Get Leaffilter Leaffilter, America's number one gutter protection company. Protect your home from flooding, roof damage, rotting and foundation issues. Right now you can get a free inspection, free estimate, save up to 30% off your entire purchase at Leaffilter's website. 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I think it's frankly just that the lingering impact of how often awful Biden's economic picture was is hard to get past because a lot of you still feel, and I feel it when I buy things too, that things just all cost too much. And it's going to take years for the rapid increase in prices that occurred during Biden's era to actually normalize itself out. The reality is we need probably five years of 2%, 2 1/2% inflation in order for us to kind of normalize and get used to the rapid increase in prices that occurred during the Biden administration. And other than oil and gas, which the prices have come back down and that's a more fluctuating commodity price, the reality is once you have embedded inflation, prices don't come back down. They don't ever go negative. So the, the reason I think there is a disconnect between what is rapidly becoming a very strong economy and what still feels frustrating every time you buy something is I just, I don't think most people out there really understood how bad Biden managed the economy. And I wasn't alive back then or at least was so young, I certainly had no impressions. My bet is those of you who lived through the rapid inflation of the 1970s, pricing normalcy didn't really return to you until the second term of Ronald Reagan, where finally the rapid price increases that occurred during Jimmy Carter's tenure came back down to a form of normalcy. Now I mentioned off the start of the program about the fact that Democrat message was being heard and they recognize that it's hard to stand for left wing policies because those left wing policies actually end up costing everyone. New York City is going to bear the cost of this because there is an articulate and charismatic and young and attractive socialistic candidate that is saying things that people want to hear without understanding any of the economic realities that underpin this. Remember Zoran, Madame said the way to deal with higher grocery prices is for the city of New York to be in charge of groceries. Let me just tell you something. There has never been a successful city or state sponsored grocery in the history of mankind that I'm aware of, this is what they do in Cuba. So the idea that suddenly things are going to get cheaper if a much more inefficient method of bringing produce and bringing product to the city is going to be put in place is madness. And many of you out there understand this because you understand basic business. And the reality is there are very few businesses on the planet that have a lower profit margin than grocery stores. We're talking about grocery stores making 1,2%. They sell a lot of product, but it's a volume based business with very tiny margins. So the idea that you're going to be able to somehow cut into the profit margins of grocery stores and make way more money is frankly bonkers. It's insane. It's a form of, of, of just absolute madness, which unfortunately has overtaken, as I laid out, much of the left in this country. But Mamdani is an eloquent advocate for awful policies. And I, I saw this and I said I should share this, cuz sometimes you guys complain. I don't know why you talk about culture so much. Tell me more about how the flat tax intersects with the, the larger geopolitical ramifications of a Bering street energy pipeline and, and how that's going to. Okay, you can talk super specific policy. Super specific policy doesn't win elections. I'm sorry, it doesn't. You have to tap into the culture. And I saw this and I said, this is how. Mom, Donnie's doing it. The Bachelor is back on air. Okay, the Bachelor you may not watch. I think it's the Golden Bachelor. Now this is an old guy meeting with older women and it's wildly popular in pop culture. And Zoran Momdani made a New York City ad that aired during the Bachelor this week. And this is what you would have heard. And so for those of you who have ever watched the Bachelor, the concept of the show is at the end of the show, a host. A Bachelor at 2 is a version of this gives the contestants a rose if they get to continue to compete to win the true love of the Bachelor or the Bachelorette. Momdani speaks the language of young, disaffected voters. It's important you go where they are. You don't ask them to come where you are. And this is the ad he ran. I think it's ridiculous. I think it's absurd. Guess what? It works.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Listen, you deserve better. You deserve to be able to raise your family here to be safe to travel where you need to free of costs and worry. You deserve someone who works as hard as you do, who thinks about you every second of the day. That's the kind of mayor I promise to be. New York, will you accept this rose?

[Clay Travis]

Okay, I get it. A lot of you are rolling your eyes. Producer Ally was so mad when I sent her this. She said, oh, it works. The reason he's gonna win is he's glib. He connects on the culture. He's good on social media. He's handsome on Instagram. He's good at cutting through the noise because, oh, he watches the Bachelor, too. He's giving us a rose. How bad of a guy could he be? He's gonna make my rent lower, and he's going to build grocery stores, and I'm going to be able to get all of my hair care products and all of my face cream so much cheaper. He's so great. I love Zoran Mamdani. That works. It works. You have to go where people are, and you have to confront them. These girls saw that ad, and they're like, oh, he's where we are. He's watching the Bachelor, too. He's gonna make my. I don't know. I don't even know what people buy face. He's gonna make. I buy books, and I buy, like, Kirkland products at Costco, so I'm not very good at thinking about how everything's gonna be cheaper. He's gonna make my Ugg boots. That's popular with the girls, right? He's gonna make my Ugg boots so much cheaper. Oh, my God. He's so amazing. Like. Like. Like. You think this is crazy. I'm telling you, this Bachelor ad is echoing all through. All through this young voting public which overwhelmingly thinks socialism works. See, one of the challenges of capitalism is it so good that people start to take for granted how good it is. This is true of anything in life that is really great. At some point in time, you forget how important it is to have solid foundational values in place. Because solid foundational values work so well that you can start to think, hey, what if. What if we just didn't care about this anymore? The ultimate flaw of capitalism is capitalism works so well, people start thinking that other forms of government might work, too. All these kids that are mostly having their rent paid for by mom and dad living in New York City because they can't afford their own rent. They have no economic basis in reality whatsoever. But Mamdani looks like the kind of person that they think should be their politician. This is how Kamala's entire career happened. Kamala Harris was smart enough to realize, hey, you know, the average left wing California voter wants someone who looks like me to be in a position of prominence in this state. And she rode that almost all the way to the White House. I'm not sure what Kamala Harris has ever done well in her entire life, but she looks like the kind of person that makes rich white women feel better about themselves in California. And she can win an election based on it. Mamdani looks like the kind of person that rich white liberals want to represent them in New York City. And, and then he shows up at the places that they care about and he's conversant in the pop culture language. And you may think it's ridiculous that this 34 year old socialist Ugandan outta nowhere is suddenly showing up with a rose telling New York City that he should be their mayor. But according to the gambling markets, right now he's at 90% likelihood to win. He's really good at marketing himself. He's got a genius for selling the product and the product is him and it's awful. And everything that he supports is wrong. But there is no alternative for him in New York City right now. And I gotta give him credit because again, a lot of you are gonna say, oh, this is cringe. Oh, this is ridiculous. You're not the target. You're not the target. Everybody who watches the Bachelor, I bet the Bachelor in New York City, I bet the people watching the Bachelor in New York City vote Democrat 9010. It's an overwhelmingly young female audience. They see mom Donnie with that rose, their hearts melt. Oh, look at that handsome guy. This is the kind of guy I would like to date. Oh, he'll take care of the city just like he would take care of me. And they go vote for him. And then meanwhile, a bunch of people who don't understand how to compete in the modern cultural wars are just sitting around like, I don't know, who cares about the Bachelor? You know, we did just elect the most successful Republican 21st century political candidate with a landslide election, who was famous to a large extent because he was on a reality television show. You can say a lot of things about Donald Trump. People get mad sometimes when he comments on Taylor Swift getting engaged or when he comments on what the NFL kickoff rules are. You go to people where they are and that's how you win. And mom, Donnie showing up on the fricking Bachelor. I don't know that any politicians ever done an ad like this before. And it's going to work. 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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you. Let's see, we got a bunch of calls. Let's see. Bob in Minnesota. Bob, what you got?

[Caller Bob]

Hey, been listening since 1992. Love the show. Two things. First one on the on capitalism, you got to put your yourself in the mind of a 25 year old in New York City. Capitalism doesn't work for them. Tuition has been too high, inflation, rent, everything else. They don't know capitalism, the capitalism they know doesn't work for them. So why not try something else? I'm 60, I get it. But a 25 year old, we really need to put ourselves in their mind. That's for that one. And then go ahead.

[Clay Travis]

No, you go ahead, finish your second point and I'll react the second point.

[Caller Bob]

I got a story for you that I gave Rush about the reach of your program that he didn't understand. Open line Friday if you want, go ahead.

[Clay Travis]

No go. So look, we try to have open line Fridays. Get as many people to to talk. What is your story about the reach of the program.

[Caller Bob]

All right. 1992, Clinton got elected. I was driving a submarine in the Navy, well underneath the ocean. We put an antenna up and I'd be driving the boat and I'd get buzzed by the Captain. Come left 30 degrees, come right 20 degrees, come left 10 degrees. Steer this course for the next three hours. He was copying the Rush Limbaugh program from several hundred feet under the ocean.

[Clay Travis]

That is amazing. That is amazing. Thank you so much for the call. That is absolutely incredible. We never forget, we see the data. Tons of you listen on bases overseas and we are a little bit of a snapshot into home for so many of you. And we don't forget that. I, I don't disagree about the 25 year old. Here is the problem. And certainly the older you get, the more you understand it. A 25 year old doesn't understand the larger scope of life because you think you understand everything at 20, but your life experience is actually very, very much limited. I saw a study recently and I thought it was really well done. And it doesn't mean that it's true for everybody. But you know what age decision making peaks. You think about athletics. Most of us were probably the best, strongest version of ourselves. If you're male, around 27 or 28, that's if you continue to work out, you think about where talent kind of goes and you think about athletics, for instance, Tom Brady. You try to play till you're 45 and you just try to balance it all out at. Decision making peaks on average at 57 years old. Why is that? There's a study. This is on average, there's people who are older that are smarter, there's people who are younger. Average age, best decision making, 57. Because you have lived long enough to have learned by 57 and you have not lived so long that your overall brain function has began to decline. Most people peak at 57 years old. 25 year olds, they need 32 more years of life experience to understand how much they didn't know when they thought they knew it all. More next.

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