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This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Welcome everybody, to the Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. Appreciate you all being here with us. Clay is out today. He is doing fancy things at Mar A Lago, Trump's Southern White House, if you will. The Southern Command for the Trump administration. And he'll be back with us tomorrow. He sends you all his warmest regards, of course. So it's just gonna be me today, which is interesting timing because Manufacturing Delusion is my book and it came out yesterday and already, my friends, it is rocketing up the charts because of all of you. I am deeply gratified, grateful and humbled. But I need those of you who are hearing this for the first time or have been busy or haven't had a chance yet. Get your copy. I am in a head to head struggle with anti Trump lunatic Meacham, who now used to write history books, now writes books about how Trump is destroying the Republic. So yeah, we have to beat him. Have to beat the big lib offering this week and I need your help to do it. Otherwise the smug Morning Joe table will be high fiving him for the number one New York Times bestseller next week. We cannot allow that. We cannot have it. I need you to mount up. Get a copy of Manufacturing Delusion. It is, as people are finding when I talk to them in various interviews about the book, very topical. It is about political madness. The Democrat Party, I would argue, has been seized by political madness for years now. They are, in fact, in the grips of continuous but shifting mass hysteria. Sometimes it's climate change, sometimes it's blm, sometimes it's Covid. Some. And, and this is something. And obviously the transgender issue and the transgender mass shootings that we've seen the last week bring this to the forefront. It is time that we call this what it is. It is mass delusion. And it is only possible because there are tactics of mind control that are being deployed against these individuals. And then en masse, they all come together and this is what ends up happening. So this is why Manufacturing Delusion is such an important book. And I really need you to go get a copy of it today. And I am going to shamelessly plug it throughout the show because I wrote it, I care about it, it matters. Also some cool CIA stories in there and stuff from the NYPD when I was there. So things I've never written about or talked about before. Even if you've listened to me for 15 years, there are things in this book, some reminiscences that I have. That you will have never heard or, you know, I've never talked about before. And yeah, some. Some stuff I did in Iraq, which you may find really interesting. Some stuff I did in Afghanistan. So go get your copy today. All right, now, I said mass delusion in the grip of mass delusion. Democrats, that is certainly the case for them. And we get Mamdaniism already on full display. Now. I get that for a lot of you, there's going to be this feeling of schadenfreude. You're going to feel like, you know, New York voted for this. New York gets what it deserves. This is obviously Clay's point of view on this. And this is something that you think doesn't concern you. Here's why I think it does. It concerns all of us in the same way that Venezuela is a cautionary tale as a nation state for the rest of the world. When you put social justice above actual justice and private property rights and capitalism and individual, individual rights, all this. The situation in New York City is unfortunately, I think, going to be something of a lesson for the rest of the country. And what happens when you put a totally unqualified individual in charge of America's premier city? And what are the sorts of things that he does as a result? This is not somebody with any history of management experience. This is not somebody with any policy expertise per se. He knows how to sound charming to people while he tells them, while he tells the ignorant and the resentful what they want to hear and smiles while he does it. And that was apparently enough, enough to become mayor of New York. Now, you might point out that's more than de Blasio brought to the table, who was just a Democrat machine thug. And it's more than Eric Adams brought to the table, who tried to make the city better but really failed. I think it was, at best treading water on most issues. He did say the right things on immigration. And of course, the Democrats turned on him because he did not want his city to become a refugee camp, which is what was happening in New York City. But Mamdani, as we all warned that this would be what starts to happen, and this is just the early stages of this. He gave a press conference where he announced that he is going to raise taxes. You know what? I'll let you hear it from Kami Mamdani himself. This is cut one. Play it.
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At heart of this path is a property tax increase. This would effectively be a tax on working and middle class New Yorkers who have a median income of $122,000. The second path also requires us to raid our reserves. It would mean withdrawing $980 million for from our city's rainy day fund in fiscal year 2026 and $229 million from the Retiree Health Benefit Trust in fiscal year 2027. These are steps that have been taken before, but only in moments of extraordinary external crisis. Mayor Bloomberg's response to the 2008 financial collapse and Mayor de Blasio's response to the enormous revenue shortfall caused by the pandemic. We do not want to have to turn to such drastic measures that to balance our budget.
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He doesn't want to get to drastic measures. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Mamdani. Mamdani has proposed a preliminary budget of $127 billion for New York City. $127 billion. The entire state of Florida, in which I live has a budget of $117 billion. So New York City, 8.5 million people. Florida, 21 million people. And Mamdani wants to spend more taxpayer dollars on New York City than my entire now home state is going to pay for everything. Everything in the. Every line item in its budget. And this is just completely insane. This is completely nuts. And it put it in the context for you of how nuts Is this $127 billion budget? You know what the budget was in 2021? High. But in New York City, the budget was $88 billion. We're talking about roughly a 50% budget increase in five, let's call it six years. In six years, a 50% budget increase for New York City, which was already a massive and bloated budget. Now, there are going to be many lessons, but I pulled the numbers here for you. In 2021, it was 88 billion. In 22, it was 98 billion. In 23, it was 101 billion. In 24 was 106 billion. In 25, it was 112 billion. In 26, it was 115 billion. 120. He wants to jack it up. 12 billion in one year. In one year from where it's already been sky high. There's so much here. My friends and I know we have a lot of listeners in New York. We have fantastic W O R radio listeners. And many people listen on podcast and however they. They listen to the show. And my family lives in Manhattan still. Half of my family. And there are unfortunately a lot of us that sit around and just say, well, of course this is what's happening. We knew this was going to happen. But it's still crazy to watch it unfold this way. New York City's budget, 40% of it, 40% is going to go to the Department of Education. New York City's public school system is awful overall. There are some exceptions, there are some elite schools. And the overall New York City school system is awful. The overall spending per pupil is above what a vast majority of private schools across America in the same grade year would cost. I mean, I team pull for me what the, what the per pupil spending is going to be under this budget. I can't do the math in my head, but I'm sure it's going to be in the $30,000 range, maybe $25,000, something like that, which is just insane. 26% of this budget is going to go to social services. A lot of that's just kind of welfare stuff. So you're paying for a massive education bureaucracy that fails and a welfare state. And that is what you get for being in New York City. That is why you have maybe second only. Although with this, with the tax hike that he's, he's talking about here, it might be more. It's either this place or California. I think actually state and local with New York City is worse than any state and local burden you get in California without taking property taxes into account. So I'd have to do a side by side comparison. But you're, you're paying absolutely egregious taxes in New York so that you can have a failing education bureaucracy and a massive welfare state. And a welfare state that let's remember, was estimated to be spending $14 billion a couple of years ago on illegals, on newly arrived illegals alone in the New York City budget. There are so many lessons from this and so many things that we can take from this. But a few, a few that come to mind right away. It's never enough money. Whatever the Mamdanis of the world, whatever Kami Mamdani and his progressive left wing lunatic base, whatever they want this year from the taxpayer to take. Remember they don't ask, they take this from you with the force of the state. If you don't pay, they'll take your business, they'll take your house, they'll take you to prison. You have to pay this year whatever they want. And then next year it will somehow be more because they say so next year it's going to be more. And sure enough, it's a burden. Oh wow. It's going to fall on, on middle class people too. Oh, how many times Must we learn the lesson? How many times? But this is where you get to the other part of it, which is there also this kind of fiscal policy, this kind of spending, this approach to government that Mamdani has, which is the same for a lot of Democrats in a lot of cities and even states. The state of California is run with the ideology of New York City. It's the same thing. Gavin Newsom and Mamdani really see things the same way. They pander to the takers by scapegoating the makers. They tell people who have resentment for whatever their financial situation is, it's because of those rich fat cats who aren't paying enough. The fat cats, meanwhile, are paying without the top 1% of earners in New York City. The whole thing is preposterous. Like, you lose 50% of the revenue. 1% is paying 50%, but that's not enough. And the failures of, not just the failures that will come from this tax policy, but the implementation failures that you will see, meaning schools aren't going to get better, streets aren't going to get safer. The free bus thing is never going to happen. I mean, all these different things, it will be blamed on the people who are paying the taxes that are never enough and that will be wasted by these communist fools. It's. It's inevitable. It's inevitable. But remember, communism is a religion. Leftist progressive political thought is a religion replacement. It is in fact a. A civil or civic religion, if you will. It is their view of themselves. This it. They will do things that make people poorer, that hurt the city overall. Because they say, and this was also Obama, it's the right thing to do. They have to pay more in taxes because it's the right thing to do. If there's less, if there's less money that comes into the government coffers, if the flight of high earners hurts the budget even more, fine. It's the right thing to do, they will say, because it's about envy and resentment and spreading the frustration of some people out and targeting others with it. It's just neo Marxism. That's what this is. It's neo Marxism. It's not going to bring down the price of anyone's apartment. The people who believe that are ignoramuses. He's not going to bring down costs. He's going to raise costs. Just like we knew what they were going to do in Venezuela when the idiot government seized private property, seized factories, set prices. Guess what? They couldn't make washing machines at half the price that they were Being sold before the government seized the washing machine factories. What a shock. The lesson is not yet learned. They will never learn the lesson though, because they don't care. They don't care. 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Cozy Earth.com is that website use promo code Buck for 20% off your next pair of sheets. But so many of their products, you're going to love. Go check them out today. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Mic drops that never Sounded so good. Find them on the free iHeartrad radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. 800. 282, 282. Let's hear from some New Yorkers or New York area folks about what they think with this latest. I know people are gonna say, I told you so, and we. We all told each other so. This is not a surprise that this was going to happen. Um, but here is Mamdani, if you want to talk about this guy. He. He is like the quintessential student council, student council contender, you know, for school, who's like, and I'm going to ban homework, and no one's going to have to show up on time and everyone's going to be able to just take, you know, long walks in the park in the middle of the day instead of doing math homework. Okay, Here is Mamdani saying a 2% tax on millionaires. That's all it would take to make everything amazing for everyone. This is back in November of last year. Play it.
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I continue to think that having the top 1% of New York City who are making more than a million dollars a year, having them pay 2% more for an economic agenda that would transform every New Yorker's life, including their own, is something that is worthwhile.
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How could anyone believe that this. That this charlatan, which is really, I think the word for him, he's a charlatan. He's smooth talking. He is full of bs. How could anyone think that he will transform their life for the better? How could anyone think that you just give this guy more money and you will be in a place where. Where all of a sudden you find yourself, you know, able to. It just does not make any sense to me, my friends. It does not make any sense why people believe this, why people think that somehow he is the guy. So, look, we'll continue to dive into this and. And more. But look, Birch Gold, my friends. Birch Gold makes so much sense. And owning gold is something that I want you to consider for your 401k or your IRA, because it makes sense over the long term. Birch Gold Group wants to help you transfer Money into your 401k or your IRA. Text my name, Buck to 9898 98. Birch Gold will send you a free info kit. Birch Gold Group, my friends. 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You know, the usual obstruction and misdirection and they don't have any well, they can't be honest with the American people about immigration enforcement because at the end of the day, the Democrat Party is an open borders party party and they won't say that, but that is what they are. They do not want people to be kicked out of the country because the more people that are here, as we know, who are illegal, the great and they tend to consolidate in well, not all, but a lot of them are in blue states. And they want more congressional representation, as we know, in the census. And they also want to bring in people who will become either through amnesty or through having children here who are then now the Supreme Court's still looking at this issue, but having people here who are anchor babies and then they're likely to be raised in a household where they will view the Democrat Party as their ally and friend because they are pro illegal and their parents are illegals, et cetera. Democrats do not want these laws to be enforced, but they do not have the honesty with the electorate to say that. So instead they just quibble with the tactics or the how it's being done today. They don't want this to be done. They, they oppose taking people off the streets, including people who are public safety threats. I mean, that's the part of this that has been so remarkable, I think. And that's why the madness that we saw so much of in in Minneapolis where they were making this their big stand against evil. ICE and the latest from the Trump administration, these were targeted arrests of people that already went before a judge, have a deportation order. And the reason they went before a judge and got the deportation order in so many cases is because they did something really bad and really illegal. They committed some crime in addition to their illegality. So they can't even be in this country without breaking additional laws, and we're not allowed to send them home. And understand this, too. They, the Democrats abuse the process so much. They just, they, they want to make it impossible to actually send anyone home to their actual country. They want to say that there's new evidentiary burdens and there's, you know, they create this endless amount of process. I'll tell you. You know, a friend of mine who worked in the, in the District Attorney's office, very good friend of mine, many years, we grew up together working in the District Attorney's office. And he told me once something that I just thought was fascinating and really, you know, devious but clever, that the Bragg administration was doing Alvin Bragg in New York City, Remember the guy, the DA who brought charges against Trump, the most absurd charges imaginable. I mean, the whole thing was. It's just preposterous, truly. But one of the things they did was they would make these agreements in process for the evidentiary burden. And this was because of these far left, like, don't, don't put anyone in prison groups that exist out there, because prison is inherent in this country. The far left believes that prison is inherently racist, that our justice system is racist. And therefore, we really just want to just have, like, no one go to prison to the greatest degree possible. Like, almost nobody should go to prison for anything. That's what the left, fundamentally, the hard left on this issue, they don't just want to abolish ice, they want to abolish prisons. They call it an abolition movement. This is real now. This is a little more in the vanguard of the left. This isn't something that, you know, you're going to have, like, Chuck Schumer coming out and saying, but they really do, at the end of the day, they want to make it so that there are very few people go to prison. And so the way they did this in New York City was they made the paperwork burden on ADA's Assistant District Attorneys so high, it would take so many hours just to file the paperwork so that they could bring charges against somebody for, you know, assault with a deadly weapon or whatever it is, that they would have to drop a lot of cases. And this didn't understand. This doesn't go through. It's not a. That, that's not something that was voted on in the State Assembly. And as I talked about. No, no, they just. DA's office goes, all right, well, now we have to basically fill these out in triplicate. And it's going to take you instead of, you know, two hours, it'll take you six hours of filing this and filing that and going, so. So the manpower reality is that you're going to have far fewer people prosecuted and far more criminals unpunished. And that happened in New York City. And that is happening in New York City under Alvin Bragg, who just got reelected, I might add. That's what they want to do with immigration enforcement. But you see how it's so dishonest. They want to say, oh, well, everyone should just have process. But the process that they want to have is if you happen to be one of the people that ICE picks up, that ICE is prioritizing. You gotta go in front of a judge to fight. Maybe you get an asylum hearing. You say, oh, I meant I want to claim defensive asylum. And then you gotta go in front of another judge and say that ICE mistreated you. And now you gotta get. No one gets sent home. No one gets sent back to their actual country. That is the process that they're trying to achieve. They're gonna lie to you about this. I've been telling you for years that the whole asylum thing's a scam. These are asylum seekers. If there are asylum seekers. If, hey, I'm here from, you know, I'm here from Colombia because I want to get a better job and I want more money for my family. If that's asylum, then we better get ready for about a billion people to come to America, because that's what we're opening ourselves up to. That's not asylum. And also, asylum traditionally was a. It's a pretty small number that we take in any given year. 50,000, 30,000. And it's for extreme cases. And it's just us trying to be humanitarians. It is an act of humanitarian charity by the American people that we even have an asylum system, asylum process. And none of these people who are coming, who have been coming in for years, are actually going to qualify for Islam the biggest way. And I, funnily enough, I had a long conversation in the green room once of a TV channel with Tom about this before he was running, you know, running ICE under Trump. I mean, the biggest thing of all that you need to know is unless these individuals who came in through Mexico and say that they want to settle here, unless they stopped in, most likely Mexico, but even sometimes they come from some other country on the way, maybe they, you know, traverse Panama or they come up through the Darien Gap, and that unless they try to get asylum in that country, they don't qualify, they're not allowed to get asylum here. Because the point isn't I get to pick, I want to be in America. That's immigration. That's hey, we get to see if you're going to benefit the American people. The point is, hey, we don't want you to die or be tortured to death for your religion or your political beliefs or whatever it may be. So we're going to take in some people just to be nice, to save them because the American people are kind. If you didn't apply for asylum in some other country that you were fleeing and you went through Mexico, if you didn't apply in Mexico, you can't get it here because you're not actually seeking safety, you're seeking America, which is a different thing. And so this is why when you, oh my gosh, I had a few years. They're part of the process. They're doing what they're supposed to do. They're just waiting for their hearing. Like 70 or 80% of these so called asylum seekers never even show up for their hearing. So then what do you do? Oh, well, then we got to send people after them to arrest them and deport them. Oh, it's terrible. I look, you see how the game is played. They want the result of everyone's stays and they do not have the honesty. They do not have the courage to take tell you that is what they want because the American people aren't with them on that. And also that would be an admission that our country is the sovereignty of this nation is effectively gone. That we are the world's refugee camp, soup kitchen, welfare ward. That is what America has turned into. And that is a country that we, that is in the process of dissolving. That's why this is so important and that's why I've been on Immigration has been for me the most important issue in America of the last decade by far, by far. And we are finally now having a conversation around this rooted in reality. I was on the front lines of this one at least debating and CNN and these back when people actually used to like pay attention to CNN. Now CNN's actually almost feel. I don't feel sorry for them, but if they were nicer people over there, I could feel sorry for them because the channel's become such a joke and no one watches. It's, it's, it's a little sad. You want to take out a tiny. Every time you see Jake Tapper on the TV screen, you want to take out a Tiny little violin. You know, it's so sad what has happened to that channel, but they, of course, deserve every bit of it because they embrace dishonesty and they embrace the defamation not only of Donald Trump and his supporters, but even of individuals that, as you remember, CNN would target, like, show up on the front lawn of some woman. And you, you said this on Facebook about Trump. Do you realize? Russian disinformation? So they've earned every bit of the ignominious decline that they have suffered over there at cnn. I have no, no issue with that whatsoever. But I remember arguing with people about whether, and this is real, about whether Walls work on the first Trump administration. That was one of the debates that we were having just to bring it all full circle. While now they're saying ICE officers need to show their faces and we need body cameras on them and we need to. I'm going to be very clear. I'm pro body cameras for all law enforcement all the time, to the degree that we can do that. I mean, there's a expenditure and there's costs involved. But I am one of the first people to say this. I'm not going to claim that I am the guy who said it, but I'm one of the first people who said body cameras effectively defeated the BLM movement. And now the free sharing of that footage that occurs on X without the hand of leftist commies at Twitter headquarters in San Francisco deciding, oh, you can't show that footage. Oh, that's not allowed. Now that the body camera footage can get out and be freely shared, yeah, BLM movement's got a big problem. BLM movement's not. Not. And I would say in this case, or rather in the cases in Minneapolis, without the body camera footage that did get out in those cases, those instances, the situation would have been far worse for the administration because they would have just made up whatever narrative in the media they wanted. So I'm pro body cameras. But note, once again, the Democrats are criticizing on process what they actually don't have the courage to criticize on policy. They want to nitpick. They want to say, oh, it's about this or that. They have to do this a little differently or whatever it may be, just so they can make it impossible for deportations to happen and for Trump to keep his promise to the base, because locking down the border, that's something he was very capable of doing and has already done that. That ship has sailed. They know that. And also, I might add, they won't be able to have the same debate around that issue that they've had in the past. Because there has been in my mind at least a big shift in the public's understanding of what is possible. The border. I was saying years ago at CNN, I would have an argument over whether walls work and people would say things and think themselves clever. I think even Nancy Pelosi said this once on tv, but there were a bunch of Democrats who would say, you show me a 10 foot wall, I'll show you an 11 foot ladder. Now, I had been at the border with border patrol doing ride alongs where people had scaled the fence and you know what happens? They are slowed down. They it's clear what they're doing. And then border patrol arrests them because it's not that they work perfectly, but they help a whole heck of a lot of. It also slows people down in high traffic areas, usually around cities where there's a border crossing place like El Paso, for example. It slows them down so that you can deploy those resources more effectively at the border. We don't need as many people in this sector. We can put them in because we have a wall which frees up manpower to make the arrests that we need to make elsewhere along the border. So we're winning on this issue. It's very important to understand we're winning on this issue. The only way that Democrats can win is to emotionalize it and to honestly just deceive the public about what's really happening. And this is why they're making this huge issue of funding right now, right now for the government. They're holding up funding for the Coast Guard and for FEMA and for. And there's somebody that's already been set aside for this. But they have to come up with something because otherwise the whole thing just becomes an admission that they've lied about everything related to the border, they're wrong about everything, and the American people are not with them. And that's a tough thing to carry into, into a midterm election. It really is. We can only hope. All right. One of the great things about becoming a dad is realizing that you're building the next generation. I can't wait to teach Speed so many things, but also I can't wait to show him his family roots. 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That's legacybox.com buck want to be in the know when you're on The Go the Team 47 podcast Trump highlights from the week, Sundays at noon Eastern in the Clay and Buck podcast feed. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. Appreciate you being with us. Like I said, Clay is doing an event today, but he will be back with us on the morrow. And in the meantime, I want to take your your calls, your talkbacks and all of the that good stuff. We have Chris in Maine. Do we still have Mr. Chris in Maine? Let's hear from Mr. Chris in Maine. You're up, sir.
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Far as on the immigration piece, you could build as many walls, as big a wall as you want. You can get as many ICE agents as you want. You can even start passing legislation as far as the immigration is concerned. But until we change the incentive, until we take away the money, people are going to continue to come. There's always the incentive for them to come here. So all these reactive things that we're doing, it's not going to stop the problem that we have. We haven't been proactive.
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I think you're correct in that that has to be a part of the overall approach. I mean, stopping people from coming in certainly helps. Deporting people who are here helps. But to turn off the magnet, that is, that's a fundamental issue of our immigration. And that goes then to workplace enforcement, which is a whole nother part of this that even a lot of Republicans get very squishy on all of a sudden. But this idea that you can take, I mean, look, the H1B scam has been exposed now after years of people saying it's only the best and the brightest in the H1B program, that's a lie. It's an end run. It's allows people to skip to the front of the line for permanent status here while getting underpaid in their specific industry We've all, we all see the scam. There's a lot of scams that are run on immigration and people, look, they hire illegals in a lot of these factories and stuff because they can pay them below market wages, and they can assume that the government's going to make up the shortfall by giving them welfare and all these other things. And that's just not right. It's not right. It's actually against the law. We don't even have to pass a law that says, don't do this. It's already against the law. But people just don't want to enforce that law. Well, we, we should either rescind that and live in the honest world of we're open borders or enforce at workplaces as well. So more on that coming up. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.