Hour 1 - Mean Girls

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 1 – Mean Girls
Date: October 30, 2025
Host: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

Clay Travis and Buck Sexton kick off Thursday’s show with a blend of humor and sharp political commentary, focusing on major current events and cultural battles. They discuss Trump’s recent summit with China, the state of U.S.-China relations, hot topics in U.S. politics, and sparring in the culture wars—especially the attacks on women’s sports advocate Riley Gaines. The episode also features banter about personal lives, ongoing election polling, and some pointed thoughts on cancel culture and the evolving tone of left-wing political commentary.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Banter & Personal Updates (03:01–06:48)

• Clay teases Buck’s new haircut: Buck describes getting a “low taper fade” at an all-Spanish-speaking Cuban barbershop, joking that the barbers wanted him to look “like he doesn’t live in 1985” (05:09).
  • Notable Quote: “If you are listening on the radio... you should subscribe to our YouTube channel so you too can enjoy Clay’s commentary slash gentle mockery of my very contemporary haircut.” – Buck (04:09)
• Window treatment woes: Both share hilarious complaints about the outrageous cost of window coverings, a surprise expense in adulthood or marriage.

2. Political Headlines – Election Season & Polls Preview (06:49–08:12)

• Upcoming guests: Ryan Girdusky will discuss new polling from New Jersey, Virginia, and New York City. Indiana’s lieutenant governor will join to discuss redistricting battles.
• Other notes: Brief hits include Kamala Harris’s rough international book tour and Gavin Newsom’s political maneuverings.

3. Trump’s China Trip & U.S.-China Relations (08:52–16:42, 22:15–24:05)

Trump’s Perspective:

• Trump rates his meeting with Xi Jinping as a “12 out of 10”, boasting about trade deals and foreign investment. (09:30–10:23)
  • Notable Quote: “Overall, I guess on a scale from 0 to 10, with 10 being the best, I would say the meeting was a 12. I think it was a 12.” – Trump, as quoted by Buck (09:30)
• Clay recaps Trump’s achievements: Reduction in tariffs, new Chinese agricultural purchases, and efforts to restrict fentanyl’s flow to the U.S. (10:23–11:23)
• Buck’s analysis: Cautious optimism; notes China has previously reneged on similar promises, especially concerning rare earth minerals and soybean purchases. (11:23–14:03)
  • Notable Quote: “If the Chinese live up to their side of this—which they have not in the past, to be clear... But stability is a very good thing.” – Buck (11:23)
• Taiwan policy: Discussion of strategic ambiguity and whether the U.S. would defend Taiwan in the event of Chinese aggression.
  • Notable Quote: “We’re in the maybe box with Taiwan. Nobody knows what’s actually going to happen and it is strategically the goal.” – Clay (15:52)

4. The “Mean Girls” Segment – The Politics of Personal Attacks (25:48–39:10)

Riley Gaines Controversy

• Clay introduces the controversy: Riley Gaines, a former college swimmer, Outkick employee, and women’s sports advocate is being targeted by both AOC and podcast host Jennifer Welch.
  • Notable Quote: “So, Riley was talking about the fact that she got attacked by AOC. Just out of nowhere... And then this awful chick who evidently comes out of the Bravo world.” – Clay (27:32)
• Jennifer Welch’s attack: A vitriolic rant against Riley Gaines is aired (bleeped for radio). Welch accuses Gaines of hatred, lack of compassion, and being a “bottom feeder” (28:54–30:00).
• Hosts’ Response: Clay and Buck defend Gaines, emphasizing her integrity, success as an athlete, and the absurdity of Welch’s insults.
  • Notable Quote: “People who have actually competed at any level... I think they all greatly respect being the fifth best swimmer in the NCAA in the United States.” – Buck (30:31)
  • Memorable Buck Moment: “The only thing she’s competing in is the Botox Olympics.” (30:31)
• Broader cultural point: Welch’s nastiness is symptomatic of a frustrated progressive left, especially among a certain demographic: “angry, Xanax and wine-swilling, left-wing coastal boss babe wannabe lib, no-kids, protest-attending white women of America.” – Buck (31:15–32:58)
• Clay on Riley Gaines’s effectiveness: She resonates with both older and younger demographics, inspiring women and serving as a beacon for college-age conservatives.
  • Notable Quote: “You would want Riley to be your daughter or your granddaughter. I will just say that.” – Clay (32:58)
• Attack Patterns: Leftist critics focus on straw man attacks (e.g., mocking Riley for finishing fifth, ignoring that Leah Thomas—a biological male—won outright).
  • Notable Quote: “Attacking Riley, to your point, is also a sign that you know nothing about sports.” – Clay (37:43)

Second Welch Clip – Attacks on Charlie Kirk (33:54–34:52)

• Welch continues: She says there should be more “celebration” of Charlie Kirk’s (hypothetical) death and criticizes Democratic leadership for being insufficiently radical.
  • Hosts’ take: The rhetoric is viewed as desperate, nasty, and revealing of a left on the defensive culturally.

5. The Broader Transgender Sports Debate (36:24–39:10)

• Buck frames the issue: The trans movement is “gaslighting” society, making any resistance seem like an attack rather than self-defense of fairness or basic reality.
  • Notable Quote: “They make it your problem... and then when you say, hold on a second, I don’t agree with that… they say, why are you making such a big deal of this?” – Buck (36:24)
• On sports fairness: Riley’s story strikes a nerve because she speaks from lived experience, unlike critics who ignore or minimize the issue’s athletic realities.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Buck’s Haircut:
  “Pretty sure they said in Spanish, let’s make this guy look like he doesn’t live in 1985.” – Buck Sexton (05:09)

• On Trump’s Trade Negotiation Optimism:
  “...with 10 being the best, I would say the meeting was a 12.” – Trump, quoted by Buck (09:30)

• On Riley Gaines and Leftist Attacks:
  “She’s an amazing employee and an awesome person.” – Clay Travis (30:23)
  “The only thing bad I can say about Riley is that she went to the University of Kentucky instead of... Tennessee.” – Clay Travis (25:48)
  “She’s a lovely human being. She’s a mom, she’s a wife, she is respected for her voice and what she’s doing, which is standing up for women and women’s sports all over America.” – Buck (30:31)

• On Transgender Sports:
  “The reason why Riley is so effective is... because people will say, I don’t know why you care about this... Riley, you can’t say that to.” – Clay (37:43)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:01 – Clay teases Buck’s "hip" haircut
• 06:49 – Upcoming election analysis and guest previews
• 08:52 – Trump’s triumphant report from China
• 11:23 – Buck’s skepticism about China’s trade promises
• 14:05 – What would the U.S. do if China invaded Taiwan?
• 25:48 – Riley Gaines vs. Jennifer Welch/AOC: The “Mean Girls” political culture war
• 28:54–30:00 – Welch’s attack on Riley Gaines (played on air)
• 32:58 – Clay praises Riley's impact and likability
• 33:54 – Welch calls for celebrating Charlie Kirk’s hypothetical death
• 36:24 – Buck analyzes the dynamics of transgender sports activism
• 37:43 – Clay: Attacks on Riley reveal ignorance of sports; importance of standing up
• 39:10 – Segment transitions from Riley/back to pro-life advocacy discussion

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Tone & Language

Clay and Buck mix irreverent humor, personal storytelling, and sharp-edged culture war commentary throughout. They aren't shy about using pointed language (“bitch,” “nasty and toxic”) when referring to public figures they see as emblematic of the left's problems but anchor their criticisms in policy and cultural analysis.

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Summary

The episode moves briskly between politics and culture, with extended attention to the increasing sharpness of left-on-right personal attacks, especially against women like Riley Gaines who dissent from progressive orthodoxy. The hosts are optimistic about the direction of U.S.-China relations under Trump but skeptical of China’s reliability; they also see the left’s cultural attacks as a sign of strategic weakness—a last gasp as their narrative control slips. Their underlying theme is a defense of traditional values, free speech, and merit, with persistent mockery of the most aggressive voices on the current progressive left.

Transcript

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome in. We are rolling in the Thursday edition of the program. I am in Chicago looking out over a beautiful vista here from the 30th floor of the I Heart Building. I'm also gazing upon the hip. I gotta be honest with you, Buck has gotten the hippest haircut in the history of the show. He may, he may be announcing that he has joined a boy band in his spare time and will be on tour soon. I'm expecting him to have a big gold chain. Also on here, I Buck, was you were concerned that your hair was not fitting into the shot. So you have gone. My boys, my sons would describe this as a low taper fade of sorts. Like this is a very popular haircut. I am describing it as the old man unk here. And I mean again, Buck, you look like you're 24 years old. Now we're going to have a whole new audience.

[Buck Sexton]

I went into my neighborhood, joined here, my barbershop with my Cubans, my Cuban Americans, everyone there, everyone's speaking only Spanish except for me. I speak no Spanish. No habla espanol. These guys have tattoos all over their forearms, by the way. They look like all these soccer players that you see now that all have the sleeve tattoos. They got all the tattoos, they have all the cool haircuts. And I just said, you know what, man, Just do what you think will look cool. And here I am. So if you, if you are listening on the radio, millions of you on the radio listening side, you should subscribe to our YouTube channel so you too can enjoy Clay's commentary slash gentle mockery of my very contemporary haircut that I got.

[Clay Travis]

But you know, I just, it is a very good look. I mean, I'm telling you, when they put this up on the YouTube, which I'm told is popular with the kids, our subscriber numbers are going to skyrocket and you're going to have cachet and trust that you have never had before because people are going to say, guy got that haircut, he can't be wrong on anything.

[Buck Sexton]

So pretty sure they said in Spanish, let's make this guy look like he doesn't live in 1985. I think that's what they said. And they said something on Michael P. Keaton and Espanol. And I was like, okay, you guys just do your thing. And here we are. Now I am muy caliente.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, I can even translate that. It's funny you were starting off with the Spanish, but my wife was getting ready for bed last night and she heard the description that we had on the show of me talking about walking naked in front of the. In front of the windows down in the new house. And she is working to learn Spanish. And so she's taken Spanish for a long time, but she's been trying to get better at Spanish. And so she. She spoke as if she were one of the Hispanic construction workers. Displeased. I have no idea what she was saying about the fact that they had been exposed to my naked body. Because we don't have window treatments, which you and I were talking about off air as we get ready to roll here. Maybe the most expensive thing on the planet that before I was married, I had no idea would end up costing me what it does. Windows are the. I wet weddings and windows are maybe the two biggest unnecessary expenses that I've ever heard of in my life. I had no idea what it cost.

[Buck Sexton]

Carrie got multiple estimates for window treatments for our home here. And it was a hard. I was hard. No. Hard. No. It's a pass. I've heard enough. It's a no. The money they wanted for, like, very basic stuff, and I was all different. So that is what it costs, apparently, down here. But I just said I'd rather just have nothing.

[Clay Travis]

It's everywhere. I mean, I think for $1,000, you should be able to have the greatest window covering of all time. And evidently that's an absurdly ridiculous idea. Makes me want to start my own cheap window treatments because it seems like it makes sense. But we will talk about a lot of these different things. Ryan Gardusky is going to join us at 1. We've got more polling coming out on New Jersey, on Virginia, and on New York City. What do we think as we sit. What is it? Five days before official election next Tuesday, we're going to talk with the lieutenant governor of Indiana. He is instrumental in a battle that is now being fought in Indiana to potentially redistrict there as many different states continue to make decisions, decisions. Buck, I was reading this morning on my travel. I got up early to fly to Chicago. Wall Street Journal had a great trans. Is a social contagion opinion article that I thought was very interesting. Riley Gaines, our friend, just continues to get ripped to by people on the left. And we're going to talk a little bit about that. I got my rankings of Halloween candies for you, Buck. As it is Halloween Eve, it is All Hallows. All Hallows Eve, I guess. Um, and Kamala has been on a book tour and she's getting raked over the coals by media in Australia that's actually pressing her and asking her questions.

[Buck Sexton]

I will just say I think Kamala got jealous of all the attention Karine Jean Pierre was getting. And so she decided maybe I can do even worse than Karine Jean Pierre for a day or two and everyone will just start focusing on me. I'm not sure that's the move I would make, but that's the move she's made.

[Clay Travis]

It will not surprise you, but Gavin Newsom, the most blatant liar in all of politics, is lying about Charlie Kirk and about Joe Biden. J.D. vance weighed in on UFOs. Buck, I don't know if you have seen this. He is on Team Clay. As someone who does not hate all nice things, I wish we could have.

[Buck Sexton]

A steak bet on this one because you'd be so toast.

[Clay Travis]

Well, it might have to be for the rest of our lives, because who knows when we're actually going to know for sure that I'm right and there are UFOs. But we begin with President Trump, who is currently in the air en route to America, back from Asia after having met with China in the late hours here in the evening, as he is flying from the future, 12 hours in front of us, back to the United States. And he's already weighed in on what the discussions were like with China. And not surprisingly, in typical Trump fashion, on a scale of 1 to 10, how did he think the meeting went?

[Buck Sexton]

Listen, overall, I guess on the scale from 0 to 10, with 10 being the best, I would say the meeting was a 12. I think it was a 12. I think very importantly, you know, just the whole relationship is very, very important. I think it was very good, especially.

[Clay Travis]

Coming on the heels of the successful trip. We're in Malaysia. You signed a peace deal for Cambodia and Thailand, critical mineral deals with all our allies.

[Buck Sexton]

So many successful and so many meetings made for our country with literally hundreds of billions. Trillions of dollars have come into our country over the last four days, represented by this meeting. But trillions of dollars where Toyota is going to build plans, $10 billion worth of plants. And, you know, I could go over so many different companies coming in, they're pouring money into the United States.

[Clay Travis]

So this is a positive sign. There's reports that Trump has lowered at least somewhat the overall tariffs on China, that there is a pledge from China to help to restrict overall fentanyl access to the United States, since China is producing much of the raw material that is later used to turn into this drug that comes into the United States and kills so many different people. Overall, I would say buck, as the stock market has proven since April, it's up about 2,000 points in the S&P 500. There seems to be a form of trade stability that is coming, and I actually want to get your take because you just came from Taiwan. I haven't seen any discussion about Taiwan, but based on mutual respect and a relationship in play, it feels like basically China. US Relations are going to be pretty calm over the next few years, at least while Trump's in office. You buy it. What's your take on this?

[Buck Sexton]

If the Chinese live up to their side of this, which they have not in the past, to be clear, they have made promises, including to President Trump in his first term, that. And then Covid happened. And when Biden came into office, things got derailed, but they did not follow through on those initial trade agreements. So I think that Trump very much wants to set this framework up, and that's important, that stability is a very good thing. For example, soybeans now are going to get purchased again by our soybean, from our soybean farmers, by the Chinese. For those of you who are familiar with Chinese cuisine, it will not surprise you to know that China is by far the biggest purchaser of US soybeans. I think it's like 60 or 70% of the entire crop. And they had been buying it from Brazil. Now, for a lot of us, you might say, why does that matter so much? Well, it's billions of dollars of agricultural products that our farmers were expecting, you know, to be able to export. And that's been really a big pressure point on them in the Midwest, so that's being addressed. The rare earth minerals issue, also critical. Now, China has said, fine, fine, we'll give you the rare earths that you need. Really just think of it as the special metals and things that you need for tech, for high tech stuff, Whether it's things that involve, you know, things that involve drones, robotics, microchips. All this are the things your smartphone, your laptop. China says they're going to get more of that or they're going to continue to provide that on the, on the market. They're not going to cut us off. This was a big leverage point for them. I still think the US should be doing a lot of its own rare earth. Now, as for the stability part of this, because that's obviously huge. If China continues on this pathway of not just agreeing with Trump through these negotiations to do certain things, but actually does them, I think that is going to be really good for the US Economy and it's also good for relations in the region, obviously. I was in Taiwan, I interviewed the president of Taiwan and had a whole range of national security meetings. The more China is enmeshed in a positive way with the U.S. economically, I think the better the likelihood is that there's not going to be the flashpoint Taiwan situation of the invasion. But that can change in a hurry. And there still is a real difficult right now relationship specifically between the mainland and Taiwan. They've really cut off trade.

[Clay Travis]

What do you think that we need.

[Buck Sexton]

To get that going again?

[Clay Travis]

I know we're going to break here in a minute, so, but big question. What do you think the US Would do if China actually invaded Taiwan? Because we have a strategic ambiguity perspective for people who don't know. What do you think having just been there?

[Buck Sexton]

It's a very good question. And the answer is President Trump. It's up to President Trump. Right. That's really what it comes down to is what has China done? What are our options? We do not have, we have a policy of strategic ambiguity. Our stated policy on this matter is we're not sure what we'll do. We're not going to tell you. Pete Hegsett, the Secretary of Defense has made some pretty strong statements in support of Taiwan, really just supported the status quo. And you know, no one's saying that Taiwan should try to go independent. They just want the perpetuation of the current realities, which is a self governing Taiwan, but not addressing the one China policy specifically. And it's weird, I know it sounds like. What does that even mean? Well, that's where things are. That is, that is what it is. And you know, my friend Steve Yates, who was really our, our, our Sherpa, our guide on the ground in Taiwan, he's actually traveling with Secretary of Defense Hegseth right now. He's part of the press pool and is covering all these events. So he's been in contact with me about, you know, he's been at the Xi Trump negotiations and he will be when he comes back from his East Asia leg, which will be next week, I think he'll call in and tell us, you know, what he saw firsthand. And what because there's really interesting things going on in Japan right now, really important things happening in South Korea. Trump said that we're going to start testing nukes again. I mean there's a whole bunch of pieces from this Asia trip that matter to all of us.

[Clay Travis]

And he wants to go back and visit China and he wants to go see Kim Jong Un in North Korea. So I think he's going to be back in Asia in the spring based on his plans. And yeah, if you want the elementary school version of what our relationship is with, with Taiwan, remember the old school and you would pass the, the, the the little note to a girl and you would give her like hey, do you want to be my girlfriend? Yes. No. And then there was a oftentimes the maybe box down at the bottom. We're in the maybe box with Taiwan. Nobody knows what's actually going to happen and it is strategically the goal. So we'll break down this Trump coming back from China, lots of different things. Our buddy Ryan Gardusky going to be with us as well as Micah Beckwith, the Indiana lieutenant governor. We met with him up when we visited.

[Buck Sexton]

Whoa, whoa.

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Welcome back into Clay and buck. President Trump feeling pretty darn good about the negotiations with Xi Jinping of China. This has always been the big one. This has always been the most important and most challenging of the trade negotiations that Trump has on his plate. And, well, here is what the big guy is saying about how he feels right now. This is Cut one. Play it.

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[Buck Sexton]

Again. Good to see you again. And we're going to have a very successful meeting. I have no doubt. But he's a very tough negotiator. That's not good. We know each other well. Do you plan to sign a trade deal today? We'll have a great understanding. We have a great relationship. We've always had a great relationship. Sorry, it was a little tough there because he's waiting for the translator. I know what that's like. I did the same thing in Taiwan. You got to speak a little bit. Let the, let the translator go and then speak a little more. Let the translator go. But what he's just saying is he's got a great relationship with Xi. He says he's a tough negotiator, but he's thinking good things are going to happen. And now Trump has said that the XI meeting was a 12 out of 10.

[Clay Travis]

So I think he feels very Trump fashion.

[Buck Sexton]

Very Trump fashion. Probably the greatest meeting of all meetings. And I think that this is just reflected in the way that people still feel very clay, I think, very bullish about the markets, the economy. You got Jerome Powell probably on his way out as Fed chair, more rate cuts coming. It is possible for things to keep getting better, actually, when you have the right people in charge. That's my takeaway.

[Clay Travis]

No, I think that's exactly right. And again, everyone there would. There are a lot of things you could disagree with Trump on. But when everybody said, oh, Trump's going to let the economy go to hell back in April, I think a lot of you out there just said, ah, you know, maybe Trump's not gonna make every decision that I'm gonna agree with or you're gonna agree with, although most of the time he has. But the one thing I felt very confident about was Trump is gonna be really good for the economy and Trump has been really good for the economy. Now there are challenges in rebounding from the disaster that was Biden and his inflation. But overall trajectory very, very good. Book.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Travis Buck Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. I am in Chicago, by the way. I should mention why our awesome boss, Julie Talbot is being inducted into the Radio hall of Fame. And so I'm up here for that. Buck. Also Colin Cowherd, good friend of mine. I think you've had him on. We've had him on the show at some point. His radio show, sports talk show is on pretty much the same time as our show, but he's also being inducted into the radio hall of Fame up here in Chicago. All right, I wanted to play this because I think we pulled it over from yesterday. We had Riley Gaines on earlier this week. She is awesome. Congratulations. If you heard Riley on the show with us, she just had a baby a month ago. She works at Outkick. I gotten to know she and Louie, her husband. They are just fantastic people. Really salt of the earth, just really good people. Louie, her husband's also a swimmer. Only thing bad I can say about Riley is that she went to the University of Kentucky instead of her home state, University of Tennessee. But nobody's perfect. And so Riley was talking about the fact that she got attacked by aoc. Just out of nowhere, AOC decided that she was going to rip Riley. And then this awful chick who evidently comes out of the Bravo world. And I mean, since she is being so incredibly nasty to Riley, as you're going to hear her be, let me just tee off on this chick off the top.

[Buck Sexton]

This.

[Clay Travis]

Her name is evidently Jennifer Welch, and she is just an. I'm going to try to think how to phrase this while still having FCC restrictions in play. Well, basically, she's an awful bitch. And she is also representative of a particular type of, I would say, liberal white woman who is just nasty and awful. And I think this is the foundation now of the Democrat Party. So unfortunately, she is representative of what I think the base of the Democrat Party is like. And I'm going to play this for you because I just think it's important to understand Riley. All Riley has done is say, hey, men shouldn't be able to compete in women's sports. And she has said that because she actually swam against a man who won an NCAA title two years ago, this Leah Thomas character. So here is what Jennifer Welch said on her podcast. We've had to bleep it, but obviously it was not bleeped on her podcast. We do have FCC standards. And so I want you to hear it and I want you to think if Riley was your daughter or your granddaughter, all she's done is say, hey, men have no place in women's athletics. This is how this awful bitch responded to her.

[Jennifer Welch]

Jennifer Welch, Riley Gaines. All you do is hate on people. You are wound up like a cheap clock over trans people. You show them no grace, no compassion. You defend billionaires. You cheer and celebrate when children are zip tied. And then you have the Audacity to get on television and try to lecture people who fight for the people that are suffering, that stand and put their arms around people that need sanctuary. And you try to act like you're better than they are. You're an insufferable. Nobody likes you. And no matter what, you will always have been the dumb that tied for fifth place. And the only place that you can get a job is at bottom feeder Fox News. You insufferable. Nobody likes you. Except for the other fake Christians that enjoy in their spare time watching children get zip tied and then sit there and justify it while they read the Bible with their hideous crucifix crucifixes around their necks. So you, Riley Gaines.

[Buck Sexton]

Okay, so. So, Clay, I mean, it's horrendous, this woman, the whole thing. But getting beyond all the name calling and the nastiness and everything he there. I have two things on this.

[Clay Travis]

One is.

[Buck Sexton]

It goes without saying, but I'm going to say it. A lot of people think Riley Gaines is pretty amazing, actually.

[Clay Travis]

We employ her at Outkick, so I guess we are also, like awful bottom feeders. But she's an amazing employee and an awesome person.

[Buck Sexton]

She's a lovely. She's a lovely human being. She's a mom, she's a wife. She is respected for her voice and what she's. What she's doing, which is standing up for women and women's sports all over America, but also broader social commentary. People who have actually competed at any level of physical endeavor, which I'm sure this, this woman who only thing she's competing in is the Botox Olympics, I think they all greatly respect being the fifth best swimmer in the NCAA in the United States.

[Clay Travis]

That's an incredible accomplishment.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, imagine being like silver medalist at the Olympics. What a loser. Like, that's basically the same mentality that.

[Clay Travis]

We'Re talking about here.

[Buck Sexton]

No, if you're the silver medalist at the Olympics is not a loser. Unless you're such a loser that you have no idea what it is to be good at anything and to work hard at something. Also, respectfully, Riley, popular with heterosexual men across America. Married woman, young baby. But I'm just saying, a lot of people like Riley. So this notion that no one likes Riley Gaines, this is the something. This is bitterness and nastiness from a woman. But beyond that, beyond that, she. Unfortunately, Clay, this Welch, this Welch person is growing in popularity very quickly. Yeah, because she is. This is why it matters. This is why you're playing this clip. This is why all Of a sudden we're taking the time because they're losing the, the angry, you know, Xanax and wine swilling, left wing coastal boss babe wannabe lib, no kings protest attending white women of America are very sad right now and they're very sad in general. And they're looking for people to blame because they're losing the argument and they're losing the culture and so the nastiness and it is truly nasty. And you and I would, you know, we'd never speak about anybody in the world of commentary. The way that she's speaking about Riley, you know, even on the other side, it's just, just lines being crossed. But she's popular, Clay, because this is tapping into the zeitgeist of these democrat white women in America right now. And that's why it's concerning. Because they're getting increasingly desperate, increasingly pathetic and increasingly vicious.

[Clay Travis]

You would want Riley to be your daughter or your granddaughter. I will just say that. And I think that's one reason she connects so well, not only with people who were Fox News viewers, which would tend to be older people in general, but also why she's so popular on social media, why we hired her at Outkick and why she has continued to connect so well with the Turning Point crowd, with the college campus crowd. I mean, she just graduated herself a couple of years ago. She's still, I think like 24, 25 years old right now. But I think what you hit on, I want people to hear the kind of awfulness that is out there and then listen to what she said. The same person. And to Buck's point, she is becoming very popular. Here's. Listen to what she said about.

[Buck Sexton]

I just, I just wanted to. Just really quick. I just wanted to, you know, that's. She's not like some angry commenter person that no one, she. She's actually rocketing up in.

[Clay Travis]

She's making a good living by saying the things that we played for you. And here's another. Yeah, she's going after Charlie Kirk and she's saying we need to have more celebration of Charlie Kirk's death.

[Jennifer Welch]

Cut 11 kudos to Bernie, to AOC, to Zoron, and that woman out in somewhere middle America saying, Charlie Kirk, he was a racist, he was a piece of. There are so many more of us than there are of them. And these Democrats that continue to play patty cake with corporations and lobbyists, nobody wants that. Nobody wants you. We want politicians to speak freely and look at what the benefit is. Look at what is happening in New York, and you dip are sitting on the sidelines, running your social media like complete dorks. It's embarrassing. Get your together, Hakeem and Chuck, seriously, get your together. Because the Democratic Party is moving on.

[Clay Travis]

So she goes on, and there are a bunch of those takes. They're losing the culture. And what happens when you lose the culture is you start to get increasingly desperate and you start to take bigger swings. And I thought it was very strange that aoc, out of nowhere came after Riley Gaines, now this chicken, in a really kind of awful way, which is not dissimilar to the way that Simone Biles stepped into this. There's a calculated attempt to come after Riley because she is speaking to normal moms and normal daughters and granddaughters out there that are looking around and saying, this culture's failing us. And remember, and I'll say this before, but I met Riley and I said a long time ago when I first met her, because she was starting to speak out. And I saw her online, and one of our first conversations, she said, yeah, I was going to go to dental school. She was all set up to go to dental school out of the University of Kentucky until she swam against a man. And everybody else just seemed completely willing to accept it. They were just going to pretend like it was totally normal for a man to put on a women's bathing suit, spend time in the women's locker room, and win. Win an NCAA women's championship and not speak out about it at all. And so she just said, I can't keep my mouth shut on this. And that's the reason she's not a dentist. So she didn't choose this bucket, chose her.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, this is what, this is, what is actually so emblematic of the trans issue overall on all these matters is they make it your problem. Whether it's about bathroom usage or sports teams or, you know, preferred pronouns or whatever, they make demands of you. And then when you say, hold on a second, I don't agree with that. You're asking me to be party to a lie or party to something that is unfair. They say, why are you making such a big deal of this? Why are you causing this issue? You know, there's a very clear, passive aggressive, really a gaslighting that is at the heart of the whole trans agenda approach. It really started out with just be courteous, just be kind. You, me, all of you, you all want to be courteous and kind. And of course, we always say to you, you treat a trans person with dignity. You treat a trans person like the human being they are. You're kind to them, you're respectful to them. They're people like we're people. Some of them are in need of substantial help, you know, mental health assistance. And by the way, that's nothing to be ashamed of. That's something that people should get help for. The same way if you had a physical health issue that you needed to get assistance for. But that's different, Clay, than saying a 6 foot 2 guy should be spiking the volleyball in the face of a girl who weighs 120 pounds, who's actually a girl. That's a different thing.

[Clay Travis]

The reason why Riley is so effective is what you just said, because people will say, I don't know why you care about this. They'll say that to you, they'll say that to me. And you can say, well, okay, you don't think that I should care about basic competition standards. I mean, that's an argument you can make. Riley, you can't say that to. And notice what they try to attack her by saying, oh, you came in fifth. They never acknowledged that Leah Thomas came in first, that that man won a women's championship. They always go to. Riley came in fifth. Like he swam a bunch of different events, he won one of them comfortably, he's the NCAA women's champion. But they always go to. Attacking Riley, to your point, is also a sign that you know nothing about sports. You're the fifth best swimmer in college. That's pretty frickin impressive. How many people listening to us right now, myself included, have ever been the fifth best in the nation at anything? So the idea that you would attack somebody who is one of the best at what they pursue is just laughably absurd. But that's where they are. And it's nasty and it's toxic and it's going to be happening more. And I think we need to play it for you because you need to understand how desperate they are becoming as the culture is moving against them. And the reason they're attacking Riley is because she's having such strong impact.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[NFL Network Announcer]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

Eventually. Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

Right now we just got to sell a lot of books. I get you.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. In the meantime, autograph copies. I'm sitting and I am signing them this weekend. Clay travis balls.com that I promise you that you will not get flagged if you click on that link. Clay Travis Ball, you're signing balls all weekend.

[Buck Sexton]

That is a true statement of fact.

[Clay Travis]

Signing. Your roommate's going to bring some Polish sausages over and we're going to your college roommate. We're going to have some, some balls. And Polish sausage is going to be a really good time. Jesse Kelly. I'm laughing because our friend Jesse Kelly is also up in town and meaning in Chicago here. And he asked for food recommendations. And Buck, your immediate response was that, what does Jesse need to get when he's here in Chicago?

[Buck Sexton]

Polish sausage. I said what I said. Also known as kielbasa, for those of you who are of a culinary bent. Kielbasa Polish sausage, very delicious, perfectly spiced.

[Clay Travis]

That's going to be a lot of fun. So, claytravis balls.com, but in all seriousness, Crockett is rolling and we thank all of you for helping us build a great American coffee company. It's extraordinary what you guys have built alongside of us in the last 18 months. Thousands and thousands of you who are subscribers toasting a mug to the fact that America is the greatest country that's ever existed in the history, history of the world. Buck. New numbers coming out from New Jersey and Virginia as well as New York City. Latest polling voting underway. Our buddy Ryan Gardusky, our affectionate data nerd who was fired by CNN for making a great beeper joke, is going to be with us.

[Buck Sexton]

I was gonna say a nerd with.

[Clay Travis]

A great sense of humor.

[Buck Sexton]

That's why we like him so much. You know, he was just, well, wishing that he hoped that his fellow panelist beeper didn't go up. I don't know. Maybe it's the 90s, maybe like doctors and drug dealers, the only people with beepers. Who knows. We'll talk about all this with Ryan in just a minute.

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[Clay Travis]

Let's go.

[NFL Network Announcer]

Week 10 Bajon Robinson and the Falcons take on Daniel Jones and the Colts in Berlin.

[Buck Sexton]

Fireworks in the fourth quarter.

[NFL Network Announcer]

Then in week 11, Jaden Daniels and the Commanders face Tua and the Dolphins in Madrid. Snooze off. Game on. It's Sunday morning football continues November 9th at 9:30 Eastern only on NFL Network.

[Clay Travis]

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