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Clay Travis
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Ryan
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Clay Travis
Something about a comedic tone.
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Jack Armstrong
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Clay Travis
Welcome everybody to the Thursday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show from our nation's capital. Having a great time here. I gotta say I have been so impressed and thankful and humbled that Clay and I have seen so many of you, our listeners around dc.
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Ryan
True.
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Clay Travis
And a first yesterday someone came up to me who wanted to take a photo and I always all of you, don't ever be shy about if you ever want to take. If you just want to shake hands or give me a high five. We love all of you who listen. All right, that is an ironclad rule if you listen to this show. We appreciate you. We're always happy to talk to you. But at first, yesterday someone Came up to me to show me the photo he had taken with Clay, I think, earlier in the day. Bumped into him on the street and then bumped into me on the street. So that was. That was something I got to say. Yeah.
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Ryan
In Georgetown yesterday morning on my way to go meet you. As we were headed out to the CIA, guy on the street comes up and he's like, super excited. He said his phone was dead, and so. But he was like, I really, really want to get a selfie with you. Love the show. Listen every day leave you from South Carolina.
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Clay Travis
That's right. I can tell the accent. South Carolina, for sure.
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Ryan
And so. So I said, all right, I'll take a picture here. I'm not a great selfie guy. My wife would say I'm really bad at taking pictures, and not just because of what I look like, but because I'm not very good at taking the photos. But I took a picture of a selfie with us. Emailed the guy from. From my email, and. And then you saw him, too. He was like, this is the. After we finished dinner.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, he couldn't believe it. I mean, it was hour. It was like 12 hours apart. And then I bumped it. So DC is a small city with a lot going on. A small city with a very big responsibility. Speaking of which, yesterday we're going to. We're going to get into the. The heat's getting turned up on the Middle east and Iran and obviously the deportations and the LA riots and what's going on in other cities. We're going to dive into all that first. But just a little bit of what we're doing here. We yesterday went to, as we mentioned, to. To Langley, to CIA headquarters and met with some of the senior folks over there, had some off the record conversations about what's going on. So because it's off the record, I can't tell you much about that. But Clay and I did get to go very much on the record through the spy museum they have at Langley, which was very cool. I mean, they've got some great stuff. They've really upgraded it since I was there. Uh, and then later on in the day, I had a meeting. Well, we had a meeting. Clay can explain what happened, but we had a meeting with the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard and her staff.
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Ryan
And also we is doing a lot of work. We had a scheduled meeting.
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Clay Travis
Well, well, we had a scheduled meeting that one of us went to. The other one, as a Tennessee resident, had a little boo boo when it came to his id.
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Ryan
So I got rejected at the White House and the Old Executive Office Building because I showed up for a meeting right after we finished the show yesterday and I don't have a real id. I've been traveling with my passport. The state of Tennessee doesn't make your driver's license default. Real ID. I don't want to have an 8 hour day spent at the DMV. Also, we have a weird schedule. We have to be on the air from 11 to 2, so Central Time where I live in Nashville. So it's hard for me to commit to anything in the morning because it might drag into when our show starts. I got to drive back and then by the time our show gets done getting to somewhere before the DMV closes, it's like I have to take a whole day off work. And I've done it before to get passports. We know, for the kids. So anyway, I showed.
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Clay Travis
Florida just gives you a real id. I don't know. I don't know. Tennessee losing some points here. Florida surging ahead in the the red state sweepstakes. I'm just telling you the truth.
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Ryan
So they wouldn't let me in the White House.
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Clay Travis
Can I just say, I. I straight up asked the Director of National Intelligence true to vouch for my man Clay. Like this felt like leaving him at the Velvet Rope at the nightclub. I was like, but you're not going to let my buddy in. And they're just, you know, the, the Secret Service guys are just. No, like this is the. Actually a sign? Yeah, there's a, there's a sign when you go in that says you must have real id. No exceptions. But Clay, of course, because he's. Clay was. I mean, I'm Clay Travis. Like, you know, we tried a little. We tried. We tried a little bit of that. We tried a little bit of that. The Director of National Intelligence said they won't let me in if I don't have proper id.
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Ryan
I mean, my argument was we did just spend all morning at the CIA and I didn't need a real ID to get in there.
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Clay Travis
Spoke about somebody who's trying to evade rules, you know, oh, I was at the CIA all morning. They've heard it all, Clay. They've heard. So I had to leave. I had to leave a man behind. I don't know what to say. I had to. He was in the trenches. He was taking grenades and I had to just run on the battlefield solo.
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Ryan
One positive on this is I. As I'm standing outside in the hot baking sun, unable to be Let in because I don't have a real id, which, by the way.
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Clay Travis
Oh, don't be one of these people that gets all sassy.
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Ryan
Real id, like, I am who I am. I've had. I sound like Sam. I am. I got the. I've got the id, Right? The fact that it has a little star in the corner, is that somehow making the world safer? Like, is anybody out there? Like, hey, you know, that terror attack would have hit, but, boy, I'm glad we have the little star circle in the corner of the driver's license. This is the most ridiculous thing ever.
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Clay Travis
So this is not nom. There are rules.
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Ryan
Yeah. So. But positive. Trying to be positive. As I'm standing in the baking sunlight, in the pavement, standing outside of the White House, unable to go in. I ran into former NFL kicker Jay Feely, who had a real ID and was able to go in for his meetings. But he's going to be on the show in the second hour because I was like, hey, you just want to come on the show. So I booked us a guest while standing in the hot sunshine pavement with my. Not real.
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Clay Travis
All that sweating through your dress shirt was worth it. I just. I think I got it. You earned it. So we're going to have Jay Feely on. I spoke to Tulsi Dni Gabbard and her staff. Again, off, off the record, but I can just tell you that really good context for us to understand here about some of the moves that the administration is doing. This is really why we're here. Touch base with Trump's top team and the people who are making the big decisions. And we've got some other meetings that are scheduled that we'll be telling you about. I'm sure you can have some guesses as to who. But the point is, we wanted to just have time to speak to everybody. What are you working on, what's happening, what's going on, and to do it in a way where they can just speak freely to us and, you know, look, they know we're. We're openly, avowedly pro Trump administration, want to see success. Because really, I truly believe that the success of the Trump administration is the success of the country and the American people. But you always get. Whenever you're in D.C. and you can speak to people freely. And again, I said, can we say we've met with you? Yes, but the contents of the discussions were off the record. You get much better exchange because people, even if they trust you, they don't really. They don't really trust anything in this town. So they had to keep some of that stuff between all of us.
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Ryan
With all that in mind, the President has been talking about this. They had Les Miserables that I pronounce that you did.
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Clay Travis
That was pretty.
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Ryan
Thank you. Thank you. They had the play going on at the Kennedy center last night, and the President was asked about this Iran conflict and the issues associated with it. And they've been pulling. You know this, because when you were in the CIA, when they start pulling people, family members out of embassies in the Middle east, there is a sign that things are not going very well and that there is potentially tension associated with how things could go. And so the reason why I bring that up is it seems to me, Buck, that Israel is ratcheting up the pressure and really wants to attack and that they want to go into Iran and that they want to do it now. And so again, there's reportedly a weekend meeting that is scheduled, but it feels to me like the Trump administration is basically letting Iran know that, hey, we're not going to continue to protect you from Israel. And if we are pulling our people out of the Middle east, that is a sign that they don't necessarily know how this meeting is going to go. And things could get a lot worse.
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Clay Travis
I will tell you, I think the heat is higher right now with Iran and this. It's been, I understand the Iranian nuclear issue has been playing out for many years, for decades, actually. And now we have a situation where there's the chance that something would happen and things could get, things could escalate very quickly. I am not in favor of a strike by the Israelis on the Iranian nuclear facilities at this time. The Trump administration is not in favor of a Israeli strike on the Iranian nuclear facilities at this time. A deal would be much better. And I think that there's just no general feeling among the American people that we should be drawn into any kind of Mid east conflict right now. That's really something that we just for, for most of my adult life, Clay, we've been fighting wars in the Middle East.
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Ryan
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
It's just too much. And I, I, you know, showed up in some of these war zones, did what I could, what little bit I could to help, but this is something that I think really guides the Trump foreign policy on this. And this is going to get. There's going to be some tension around this issue because there are people that really, truly believe that the Iranian regime is so maniacal, so bloodthirsty that it would use nukes against Israel. I, you know, this is a very. This is when you're playing the highest. The highest stakes imaginable when you're talking about this level of war and peace. But I do think that there's still a realistic and strong. Might be too much possibility, but a realistic possibility that Trump can get this done without. Without this becoming a point of conflict. When you're talking about evacuating embassies, the issue isn't that we would lose or against Iran or that we'd even necessarily be brought into a war against Iran. It's the Iranian capability to engage in terror attacks against US Targets all over the world, which they may just decide to go for, effectively go for broke if those facilities get hit, because it would destabilize the regime. The Iranian people, something that doesn't get talked about in this country. Clay, the Iranian people, as much as we're always told, they are very pro Western. They don't like their regime. They do for the greatness of Iran, want it to be a nuclear power. This is something that does not get talked about, but the Iranian people want a lot of them. Now, you could say, how could. You know, with the polling, you know, there are ways that you can, you can assess this stuff, but there's a national pride component of Iran getting this that makes it more complicated. It's not quite as clear a split with the regime on this issue as we would like it to be.
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Ryan
Yeah. And look, I think the challenge in general, you understand why Iran wants nuclear weapons, because Kim Jong Un has them. And basically he's preserved his family's ability to rule North Korea for generations to come. Unless somebody internally takes him out. I don't think anybody externally is. Why did Ukraine. If Ukraine could change one decision they made since the fall of the Berlin Wall, I bet it would be not giving up their nukes, because do you think Russia would have invaded Ukraine if Ukraine kept the nukes?
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Clay Travis
This is unfortunately the takeaway from what happened in Libya, where the Obama and Hillary administration decided that they were going to engage in this NATO air war to help militias on the ground overthrow. And then, of course, Benghazi happened, and we remember some of this history, but Gaddafi was actually cooperating with the dismantling of and avoiding WMD programs. And we decided, meaning the U.S. government, you know what? Not good enough. And they went in and we saw the videos of what happened to Gaddafi. It's very hard to commit. And by the way, I think it's interesting, I wonder how many people before I just said it now knew that it is. It is Just known that the Iranian people want nukes. This is not something that I have said that is. Is a fringe belief or theory. But it makes this a more complicated situation because the Iranian regime has been promising the security. And, you know, we don't really think of it this way because we're so used to America being the scientific power. We're so used to thinking of America as, you know, of course we have nukes and of course we have, you know, satellites and space shuttles and all this amazing stuff. There is a pride in Iran among the people about the achievement, the scientific achievement of being a nuclear power. This was true in Pakistan as well. Some people actually point to Pakistan and India as well. They have nukes and they weren't supposed to. And it's a. Now that, that gets very contentious because Pakistan and India are, are not Iran and aren't doing the thing. Oh, Pakistan does some pretty bad stuff. But this is a moment where I think we're seeing decisions made on this issue. I don't think, Clay, the decision has been made one way or the other in my mind. That's what I, that's the atmospheric that I pick up. But I will say, just talking to people here in the vicinity of the decision making process in D.C. they're very tense talking about Iran right now.
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Ryan
Well, I think that's 100% true. And remember, the motivation, according to multiple reports for why Hamas attacked Israel on October 7 was that Saudi Arabia was prepared to join the Abraham Accords. And if Saudi Arabia had joined the Abraham Accords, then the peace in the Middle east situation would have been far more likely. And now that Syria, we have in some ways normalized relations with Syria, I think that Iran is isolated to a degree that may not have occurred in a generation and that this is where Israel believes now is the time to hit them and keep them from having nukes. Whether the United States is going to agree with that Israeli perspective remains to be seen. But I think Israel is quite clearly behind the scenes advocating as aggressively as possible that now is the time to go.
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Clay Travis
Yes. Well, the problem, and I think the Israeli government, I know, Clay, you went and visited and spoke to high level officials there. But one of their concerns is also that without any fear of any real military direct attack on Iran, does that then embolden the Iranian regime to push its what are essentially imperial and almost colonizing activities by running these different proxy militias in places like Lebanon with Hezbollah and the Shia militias? Why are we so worried about Iraq and the US Embassy in Iraq? Well, it's because the most capable military forces on the ground, when push comes to shove and shove comes to shooting, are Iranian backed and trained proxy militias, essentially. So this is a huge challenge, a huge problem that we face. And I think that this is a test of the Trump administration's foreign policy and a test of our relationship with, well, allies in the Middle East, Israel first and foremost. So that's absolutely something we'll continue to follow. We'll also dive deeper into the riots, Louisiana, all that stuff here in just a moment.
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Ryan
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Jack Armstrong
To Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong.
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Ryan
He's Joe Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy modern world.
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Clay Travis
How about something about a comedic tone?
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Jack Armstrong
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Jack Armstrong
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Clay Travis
You provide an update on Iran.
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Buck Sexton
We're hearing reports that US Personnel are.
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Clay Travis
Being moved out of the region within striking distance. Well, they are being moved out because it could be a dangerous place and we'll see what happens. But they are been. We've given notice to move out. We'll see what happens. Is there anything that can be done to dial the temperature down in the region? They can't have a nuclear weapon first. They can't have a nuclear weapon. We're not going to allow that. Iran can't have a nuclear nuclear weapon. That was last night at the Kennedy Center. Trump responding to reporters. Let's dive into more of this. But the heat is high. My friends in the Middle east. We'll discuss since 9 11, the Tunnel the Towers foundation has been supporting America's greatest heroes and their families, Heroes who protect our communities and our country. Heroes like firefighter James Dickman. He was passionate about fire safety and aspired to do everything in his power to keep his community and fellow firefighters safe. While responding to an apartment fire, James and his crew tried to save people who he thought were trapped inside. The situation escalated and James was not able to escape. He perished in a blazing inferno. James leaves behind his loving wife Jamie and his children Paige and Grant. Tunnel the Towers gave the Dickman family the gift of a mortgage free home. Jamie is grateful to Tunnel the Towers and to caring friends like you for lifting the financial burden of a mortgage off her shoulders. Donate $11 a month to Tunnel the Towers at t2t.org that is t the number 2t.org Tunnel the Towers foundation t2t.org so we were just discussing before and we're here in our Nation's capital, Washington, D.C. clay and I are walking around, going down memory lane here, strolling around the streets of the swamp. It is very warm, but we're having a good time and we're having some great conversations. We're at Langley yesterday. We're at the old Executive Office Building and a lot going on. We know that there have been some moves made here with respect to the Middle east and the movement of US Personnel out of the embassy in Iraq, for example, and other embassy staffers are on high alert. Plus, here's Something Clay UN Watchdog rules that Iran is breaking the rules on nuclear activity. And this decision comes as officials say they believe this is New York Times that Israel is preparing to launch a military attack. Of course, Tehran has condemned the moats, condemned the vote. The International Atomic Energy Agency has declared today that Iran is not complying with nuclear non proliferation obligations. The first time the UN IAEA has said that in 20 years. Clay. So this is the temp is very high right now on this. And there I've never been a oh, Israel could strike. Israel could strike person. It's been years and years. This is the first time to me that this has been something that could, that feels imminent.
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Ryan
How much do you think? Yes, I agree with all that that you just said and I think again, this is much of what I was told. The Israelis have been pretty open about their desire to hit Iran and I don't think they've hit it at all. There have been a lot of reports that Netanyahu has been basically seeking Trump's approval to be able to do this. The Israelis believe that they have access and strong intelligence on how to cripple the Iranian nuclear interest. Question for you, and I don't claim to know the answer and certainly a lot of you can weigh in how there is a committed part of Trump's base that does not want to get involved at all in basically Middle east affairs, period. And it's not an insignificant amount of people.
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Clay Travis
I think it is the base. I think the Trump base does not want us. There's a but. Right. There's a difference between wanting us involved.
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Ryan
And Israel decided to do it. So how does this play out? Because I'll tell you, and I understand that that there is an element out there that disagrees with this. I don't, I think in general that it is better if Iran does not have a nuclear weapon than if they do. I think most people out there listening to us would not along with that because what Iran would do potentially with a nuclear weapon is, is, is potentially catastrophic. Now, I also understand the Iranian perspective, which is once we have a nuclear weapon, our leadership is solidified. Nobody is going to mess with us. As we were just talking about earlier in the, in the hour, I think that Trump wants to allow Israel to strike. I also think he wants Iran to believe that he's willing to let Israel strike and is hoping that if that perspective is out there, it will lead to an agreement. Here's my ultimate question for you. Do you, you worked in the CIA. You worked on a lot of different issues over the years. Do you trust Iran to comply with any agreement they enter into with us?
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Clay Travis
No. At all.
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Ryan
Right.
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Clay Travis
So this is, and this is always, look, we just had the IAEA say they're cheating. And the IAEA is not some great friend to Israel. So this is the reality that they're clearly cheating on this. And we're trying to make strategic calculations about what the Iranian leadership strategy is. And these people are. You know, there's always this thing of, are they. People will say they're crazy. And. Yeah, I mean, they're. They operate in a completely different moral framework than we do here in the west with what they think is justified. I mean, their hatred of Israel and their hatred of the Jews is unfortunately, a very real thing for the Iranian leadership, the Iranian regime, and it guides a lot of. And dictates a lot of the decisions that they make. So. So there's a deep immorality there. There's also the immorality of the oppressive theocracy that the regime inflicts upon its own people. You do not have freedom. You do not have, you know, any kind of rights that we would think are standard in America. They don't have those in Iran. So it's hard for us to. They would call this in analysis school, the agency mirror imaging.
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Ryan
Right.
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Clay Travis
It's hard for us to understand really, what their thinking is when faced with the highest level of decisions on national security. But the Iranians, this has always been the problem, and this is the problem with the Obama administration's Iran deal is that the Iranians will always find ways to cheat. And people, I think, are getting tired of having to play this game with them. But I think people are more tired, and I mean, specifically Trump voters are more tired of the Middle East. It's not our problem. You know, and that's. I'm just, I'm vocalizing the feeling that a lot of them have. I'm not saying that all of you agree with that or. But there are a lot of people who, especially those who fought over there, I think, and the families of those who fought over there. We don't want to get dragged into something. Now, if Israel could strike the facilities and that which they've done. They did this in Syria, right? I mean, they've hit reactors and it was, oh, Israel took out the reactor. Well, you know, everyone wakes up the next day and goes about their lives pretty much. I don't think that that's likely to be the case here because of the centrality of the nuclear program to the Iranian regime and the Iranian people supporting them in this. But maybe there's a way, maybe that it wouldn't be as much blowback as we would foresee. What we don't want is we have to be deploying US Troops in the Middle east to protect our assets, to protect our people. And, and that's where I think the, this is a very difficult calculation that is being made here. Numerous difficult calculations.
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Ryan
If you told me that Israel can successfully strike Iran and effectively end their ability in the next decade or more to pursue nuclear weapons, and I would be in favor of it, I would, and I understand some of you out there are going to say, hey, I don't want to do anything. Again, this is Israel striking. If they could do it, I would be in favor of it. I actually also believe that behind the scenes, Saudi Arabia, the uae, Qatar, maybe even Syria. Now, I think there are a lot of Middle Eastern interest parts of Iraq that would also support it. Not publicly, because they can't ever be seen as supporting Israel, but they don't want a stronger Iran in the Middle east because of the power and what it does in the Arab states.
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Clay Travis
Everybody who's dealt with the Iraq issue, who fought over their nose, the Sunni, Shia thing is a big deal, okay? The, the schism within the Islamic faith and the way that, that plays out in Mideast politics. I mean, you can see who, who is Iran working with and who are Iran's allies, various Shia proxies. Now, Iran has also had close relations with Hamas, which is a predominantly Sunni organization, but generally speaking, Hezbollah Shia. Right. Houthis Shia. You can see these, these places where the Iranians have been able to particularly dig in, you know, put their, put their tentacles to work. That has been very much along these religious lines. So that means, you know, the Saudis don't want to have an Iranian Shia combatants getting stronger on their hands. So, yeah, I think you're right that there'd be a lot of behind the scenes support for them.
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Ryan
And they're not going to say it publicly, but they might support it privately, which is part of what the Trump team is doing. Here's the other thing, and you can go look this up. Iran before the Ayatollah, the revolution in the 1970s, look, this was a country.
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Clay Travis
That chicks in high heels and miniskirts.
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Ryan
That'S what I'm talking about. You can go find these videos of Iran. And I know there's actually probably a decent amount of people with Persian backgrounds with Iranian backgrounds that are listening to us right now because they live in the United States now. They may still have family over there. I think a huge portion of the Iranian population hates the Ayatollah. And if, I think there's some calculus here, it's hard to know exactly how all this plays out. But if Israel successfully struck the Ayatollah, Khomeini is, what, 83 or 84? I mean, he's very old and at some point in time, whether this is going to remain effectively a Muslim theocracy after he is gone, those questions are up in the air. If they don't have nuclear power, I think it weakens massively the government in a position right now. They used to have Syria as a proxy. They used to have Hezbollah as a proxy. They used to have Hamas as a proxy. Israel's perspective on this is Iran has never been weaker. And if we hit them now, maybe, possibly that destabilizes things enough for the Ayatollah that in the future, as his reign comes to a close, the, maybe Iran can go back to something more like it was in the 1970s before the Revolution sort of brought down the veil of an absence of human rights and descended Iran into a country buck. They can't even keep the, the, the, the, the power running. I mean, they had to start turning power off by 2 o' clock in the afternoon. A lot of people are fed up with just the government's ability to actually allow them to have normal lives.
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Clay Travis
Well, and this is, this is where I think you can see as you work through this, if the US Is not pulled into this, if we don't have US troops or US Personnel that are at immediate, well, they're going to be at risk if there's a strike. But if we can mitigate that risk enough, the downside of striking these facilities is what? And the downside of allowing the Iranians to continue to build this capability, which even the IAEA says they are doing, in violation of agreements that they have signed, is what, and this is what you have to balance out. For me, it's a little bit like the way I feel about Ukraine, which is there's decisions, there's back and forth on what the best path forward is. But my guiding, my North Star on this, if you will, is I don't want American troops involved and I don't want the American people fighting this war. I don't want them fighting in Ukraine. I don't want this to be our fight in Ukraine. I don't want this to be our fight in the Middle East. If Israel wants to take this thing on and it's going to be Israel's fight. That makes it an easier calculation from my perspective. Although none of these calculations are actually easy.
- [32:58]
Ryan
No doubt. And this is going to be something I think that plays out in the next couple of days, whether or not we get an attack or not. Father's Day this weekend. Here's a gift idea that comes from Kardia by Dad. The Kardia Mobile 6L. It could be the most important tech he'll ever need. Why? Because it's the world's first FDA cleared personal EKG that can detect afib, a leading cause of stroke. Small enough to fit in the palm of your hand, even slip into your back pocket. Cardiomobile. Perfect way for your dad to manage his heart health at home between doctor's visits. Easy to use. Records right to his phone. Six views of his heart. Six times the data of any smartwatch at a fraction of the cost. Give the geef. Give the gift of peace of mind for the dads in your life, even for yourself. Now for a limited time, Kardi is giving 10% off. Just go to Kardia.com that's K A R D I A.com or Amazon. Use code 10 6L Clay. That's the number 10 as in 10% off the CardioMobile 6 link Clay to get 10% off your Cardia Mobile 6L in time for Father's Day. That's Cardia.com code 10 6L Clay.
- [34:17]
Buck Sexton
You know what's great about your investment account with the big guys? It's actually a time machine. Log in and zoom. Welcome back to 1999. It's time for an upgrade. At public.com you can invest in almost everything. Stocks, bonds, options and more. You can even put your cash to work at an industry leading 4.1% APY. Leave your clunky outdated platform behind. @Public.com Go to Public.com and fund your account in five minutes or less. Pay for by Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC. Full disclosures@public.com disclosures why should you listen.
- [34:48]
Jack Armstrong
To Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. Lotta news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong.
- [34:59]
Ryan
He's Joe Getty.
- [35:00]
Jack Armstrong
We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy.
- [35:03]
Clay Travis
Modern world about something about a comedic tone.
- [35:09]
Jack Armstrong
We have a winner.
- [35:10]
Clay Travis
Yes.
- [35:11]
Jack Armstrong
Listen to Armstrong and Yeti on Demand. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [35:17]
Ryan
Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Rolling through the first hour, we are scheduled to be joined by Jay Feely, who I met on the sidewalk outside the White House after I was not allowed in because I do not have a real id. That all happened in case you just got in your car.
- [35:34]
Clay Travis
Yes. And I just want to be very clear. I would never leave a man behind, but when the Secret Service says you have to leave a man behind, I don't know what else I could do. I can't. I can't bail on the Director of National Intelligence because Clay comes from a state that refuses to get the right kind of IDs in everybody's hands.
- [35:50]
Ryan
What was the reaction when you told all of these spooks, all of these high level government intelligence agents that your radio show co host couldn't get into the meeting because he didn't have a real id? Did they totally accept it?
- [36:06]
Clay Travis
Oh, yeah. They said. They said, no, you don't understand. Because I was like, guys, can we make. Can we make a call? You know what I mean? Can we. Can we bring him by the other side of the velvet rope? You know, could we, like, slip the bouncer $100 bill? Like, what do we have to do here? They're like, oh, no, he's toast. There's no chance. They said, tell him to get his passport or he's not getting into this building. And I was like, o. Okay. So that is what happened. Yeah, they were sympathetic, but there was no getting around it.
- [36:28]
Ryan
I've got my passport, so I have it in my jacket pocket now, so I could theoretically be able to get in. I thought about maybe just trying to do a flute solo. I was willing to do whatever it.
- [36:40]
Clay Travis
Might take if that was going to get it done. Shirtless flute solo out on the hot sun in the D.C. streets. Clay was willing to do whatever it.
- [36:46]
Ryan
Takes, but it just didn't happen, unfortunately.
- [36:50]
Clay Travis
I just. How. How much right now? Have you tried to ever kick a football through the uprights? Yeah, Jay Feely coming up.
- [36:56]
Ryan
Actually have.
- [36:57]
Clay Travis
How far do you think you could do it right now if, you know, you warmed up your hammies and your quads, you know, if you.
- [37:02]
Ryan
20 yards.
- [37:03]
Clay Travis
20. Yeah, I was gonna. I think. I think I could do a 20 yard.
- [37:06]
Ryan
It's a fun. Again, I don't want anybody to tear their groin or injure themselves, but there is a fun challenge, especially you get.
- [37:15]
Clay Travis
You get in your 40s. The groin pull.
- [37:17]
Ryan
Yeah, that is not the, not the area you want to be having issues with. But there's a fun hundred yard challenge that I, that I used to do back in the day. Most people can't do it, and field goal kicking and, or punting is really the key. But if you start at the goal line of a football field and you throw the football as far as you can, and then wherever the football hits, not where it lands, like, you don't get the benefit of like the 20 yard roll or something, you go to where it lands. So for a lot of people, 40 yards or so beyond, if you have a decent arm, you can throw football 40 yards. Some people can throw it farther, but 40 yards. Decent, decent. 40, 50 for most people with a decent arm. Then you punt and then you do the field goal. You punt wherever the ball hits and then can you make a field goal? So it's basically almost like a, like.
- [38:05]
Clay Travis
A triathlon for football.
- [38:07]
Ryan
Most people cannot do it, but it is a fun challenge. If you got your kids getting out of school for summer or you're listening to us and you're a guy who's in somewhat decent shape, it sounds like a lot of people are listening to it right now and they're like, oh, I could do that. It comes down really to how well you can.
- [38:24]
Clay Travis
I'm going to tell you I can do most sports things at a reasonable level and some at like a considerably above average level. But I would say clay, and I mean this in all humility, I think my football throw is unfortunately equivalent to your golf swing.
- [38:40]
Ryan
How far do you think you could throw?
- [38:41]
Clay Travis
Not my foot. I can. I never played football growing up. That was the one sport that, you know, we just didn't play it in New York City. Basketball, soccer, tennis, you know, different things like that. I played even lacrosse in the New York area is really big. You just don't get. That's more in the suburb.
- [38:56]
Ryan
But no baseball. Oh, base.
- [38:57]
Clay Travis
I played baseball growing up too. No, I can throw a baseball. I'm an American. Clay. Let's get real. All right, I can throw. I was actually pretty decent at baseball. I just never liked it that much. They're always like, oh, just like, the ball's not going to hit you. I'm like, I don't know. I've seen people get wrecked by that ball. Like, I don't think I want to get hit, but I could throw a baseball due to that. But I cannot throw in a football. I can do it, but that's that's something that I need. I need some work on. So maybe Jay Feely can give you some tips.
- [39:17]
Ryan
I was 50. I was a 50 yard guy. I could throw a football 50 yards. I don't want to sound like Napoleon Dynamite here. I could throw a football 50 yards.
- [39:25]
Clay Travis
I think I heard 50 yards.
- [39:26]
Ryan
They call them easily now. A 40 yard guy. I would 100%. I can throw a football 40 yards. Punting and kicking a football is way harder than people think.
- [39:37]
Clay Travis
I'm actually sure. Yeah.
- [39:39]
Ryan
So most people cannot do that.
- [39:43]
Clay Travis
Laces are out.
- [39:43]
Ryan
You know, Einhorn fake goal was Einhorn, by the way. Speaking of busy, we were talking about the schedule and everything else running around. The fact that I couldn't get in. You know what I needed this morning? Crockett Coffee.
- [39:56]
Clay Travis
Oh, yes, Crockett Coffee. Delicious. Go to crocketcoffee.com please subscribe and also follow Crockett Coffee on social media. We've got some great influencers who are posting amazing content now.
- [40:07]
Ryan
That's right.
- [40:07]
Clay Travis
We got our friend Ryan McEnany, Kelly McEnany's sister. She's joined the Crockett family. We have Hannah Roberson.
- [40:16]
Ryan
We are doing the. We are doing the. Crockett coffee is the coffee of the Gulf of America.
- [40:22]
Clay Travis
It is indeed.
- [40:31]
Buck Sexton
You know what's great about your investment account with the big guys? It's actually a time machine. Log in and zoom. Welcome back to 1999. It's time for an upgrade. At public.com you can invest in almost everything. Stocks, bonds, options and more. You can even put your cash to work at an industry leading 4.1% APY. Leave your clunky, outdated platform behind at public.com go to public.com and fund your account in finance. Five minutes or less. Paid for by Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC. Full disclosures@public.com disclosures.
- [41:01]
Jack Armstrong
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong.
- [41:12]
Ryan
He's Joe Getty.
- [41:13]
Jack Armstrong
We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy modern world.
- [41:18]
Clay Travis
How about something about a comedic tone?
- [41:22]
Jack Armstrong
We have a winner.
- [41:24]
Clay Travis
Yes.
- [41:25]
Jack Armstrong
Listen to Armstrong's Yeti on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [41:31]
Clay Travis
This is an iHeart podcast.