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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Much to discuss the government shutdown. Where are we on this one? Inching closer to a fish oil reopening here. There is a deal in the Senate so it looks imminent that the government will be formally opened, but Democrats took this through the election and sure enough turned around and said, you know what? We probably should open this government at some point, considering that people are getting stuck on tarmac, flights are being delayed, government employees aren't being paid, air traffic controllers. All of those things going on here. And it seems, Clay, increasingly clear that the pain and chaos was the point of what the Democrats were doing all along. Their desire was exactly what we saw, which was to frustrate people, to make them anxious, to make them agitated in advance of the elections. And you, sir? Yes, go ahead. You. You are. You look like. I can't tell if you're swiveling around with energy about this or you're just in your new studio.
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Clay Travis
I'm in my new studio. So, Buck, there's several things that could go awry. First of all, we're gonna have to get a picture taken. I am attempting, and you're gonna think this is the most ridiculous of all decisions that I've ever made. I'm attempting now to do the show from a treadmill. Like, I'm trying to walk like four miles. Yeah, you're. You're losing your mind. And I'm probably gonna step off and this is gonna be ridiculous. We have designed in the new studio, I have a walking desk where I am right now attempting to do like four miles instead of sitting. This is my attempt to make America healthy again. I'm trying to do the show like, totally normal. Just standing here from a. Yeah, so at some point, if I just take a wrong step, at some point I may just kill myself. This is. This is going to be an interesting decision.
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Buck Sexton
All I saw was you, the shoulders moving side to side. And I thought you were just so excited to talk about the shutdown that you couldn't contain yourself. Like, my baby does this when I walk in the room. If he hasn't seen me, he shakes side to side. But that is, in fact, not what's going on. You are walking while doing the radio show. I'm gonna have to. This is gonna take me a beat to get.
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Clay Travis
Get used to this, get adjusted to. And also for people watching on the new cameras, I am told that I look like a penis with two different logos of Clay and Buck on either side of me. So there's no telling how much will go awry before we get this all fixed. But even if we are a mess on the show, optically, Buck, we're not as mess. A much of a mess as the Democrat party is right now. They have completely screwed this all up. And this is yet another story That I would say we got completely right because we told you that they wanted to have their stupid no Kings protest and we told you that they wanted to have the election in Virginia with all of the federal employees who were likely to be showing up and that as soon as they did that, which they did, at some point, they would buckle. And it's amazing how quickly we pivoted from. Boy, Republicans have got a real issue here to try to figure out exactly what's going on to. Boy, Democrats are a mess. Eight Democrat senators have joined in. And now as a result, I think you're going to see a real civil war breaking out among the Democrat Party over how do they solve that, what is the next step, what should they do going forward? And I don't know that they even have a very good answer because right now Hakeem Jeffries is speaking on CNN Live and he's screaming at everybody. And these eight senators have come out and they've made the choice that they wanted to make. And so I just think this is exactly what we told everybody was going to happen. They had no plan. They got nothing. They threw a temper tantrum. You've got a six month old, hopefully he's not having temper tantrums yet.
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Buck Sexton
But speed is way better behaved than Democrat senators.
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Clay Travis
It's not even close time. You get the temper tantrum that comes out and there is no result and they're going to be even more frustrated. The left is going to lose their mind over this.
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Buck Sexton
So Trump put this out. As we've said, there's already been agreement. I don't think Democrats could really walk back from this in the Senate after they've made this, these concessions. And we'll get into some of the specifics of what the deal looks like to get the government back open over the weekend, Trump was saying, and many others were saying to nuke the filibuster. Time to go all out. Time to make the. And there may still be an argument underway about that. But here's what Trump says about air traffic controllers. This is always clay, historically, where the rubber meets the road, so to speak, on the shutdown. When people really get angry is when air traffic is a complete mess and you have people that are not able to go on business trips, on vacations, go see relatives, waiting three hours, waiting 24 hours, you know, canceled flights, all that stuff. So Trump put this out, all air traffic controllers must get back to work now. Anyone who doesn't will be substantially docked for those air traffic controllers who were great patriots and didn't take any time off during the Democrat shutdown hoax, I will be recommending a bonus of $10,000 per person for distinguished service to our country for those that did nothing but complain and took time off, even though everyone knew they would be paid in full. I am not happy with you. Very, very Trump here, very Big Daddy Trump, letting everybody know where he stands on this.
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Clay Travis
And look, I do think if you're a Democrat and you are convinced that Trump is a king, and you are convinced that Trump is Hitler, and you finally had your party say, we're not going to take this anymore, and then they just meekly come back and say, actually, we're just going to open the government back up. And I do think, Buck, this is a function of all of the travel issues, because whether you're a Democrat, Republican, or an Independent, if you have to stand in line for hours to get through tsa, people lose their mind. And if you have to put yourself in a position where you are somehow defending that absurdity, it's not a good spot to be in it. Again, I just come back to. We said this exactly was what was going to happen. They would get through the elections on Tuesday. They would look around and they would say, hey, we don't really have the ability to keep this up forever. Republicans called their bluff, said, we're not going to change anything. And as a result, these Democrats, these eight just came back meekly and said, okay, we're going to do it. Here's what they did, Buck. They gave Chuck Schumer an opportunity to look tough so that he can stand up to aoc. Right. Which I think is a huge part of what he's trying to do. And then ultimately, even though he's not involved in reopening the government, he voted against it. His number two, Dick Durbin from Illinois, was in favor of it, which kind of gives you a nod that Chuck Schumer is telling his constituents behind the scenes, hey, let's go ahead and do this. And the whole thing is just. It's. It's a debacle. Let's be honest. There is no actual benefit that the Democrat Party has gained in any way.
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Buck Sexton
Well, they threw a tantrum.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
I think that the. They've set the groundwork for the emotional manipulation that is going to be the foundation of their midterm pitch. Right. What are they going to say so that they can take control of the House, and then all it's going to be is do everything you can to stop Trump from doing anything for the last two years of his presidency. Right. Do everything you can. Impeach to impeach him and just be as difficult as possible. Grind the gears of government to a halt. To the degree they can do that, they're. They're really heavily leaning into the class warfare stuff. It's feeling very 2009 all over again here.
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Clay Travis
Mamdani took the mask off Buck and his speech. Even the Washington Post editorial board, I was reading it, said, oh, he's a, he's a nice, he's a gentle, you know, socialist. As soon as he won, he was like, we're coming for you. We're going to tax you. There are going to be consequences. We've got a mandate. We got over 50%. Get ready.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. And that's. People say, well, what happens to the identity politics of the Democrat coalition? Well, they shift focus a little bit now. They go from race communism to old school communism. That's essentially the playbook, I think. And that's why the health care issue plays so heavily into this and why Bernie Sanders. Of course, Bernie Sanders is one of the big voices you'll hear out there, who's upset, as he always is, about the millionaires and the billionaires and all this stuff here. This is a video that he released on social media. This is cut to where he is slamming. What is he slamming? You'll hear it. Play it.
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Clay Travis
Tonight, eight Democrats voted with the Republicans to allow them to go forward on this continuing resolution. And to my mind, this was a very, very bad vote. Just on Tuesday, we had an election all over this country. And what the election showed is that the American people want us to stand up to Trumpism, to his war against working class people, to his authoritarianism. That is what the American people wanted. But tonight, that is not what happened.
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Buck Sexton
Clay, what is the war against working class people? What is that? What does that even mean? These are. This is what I mean by emotional manipulation. This is buzzwords to get people to play into, oh, my bills are, you know, high. Oh, I have frustration in life. It's someone else's fault. If it is someone else's fault, fine, but let's at least know who and why and then fix that instead of just playing on the rage of the masses, which is what Bernie's trying to do.
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Clay Travis
Buck, think about the arguments that they simultaneously were making. They said, hey, everybody's gonna go hungry and too many people are gonna starve to death. Basically, that's what they were trying to say with the snap related issues. And as soon as the government opens back up, what are they Saying, how dare we not stand up to Trump? Wait a minute. What is the consequence of a government shutdown? Is it that tons of people are not gonna have enough food to eat, in which case the government should reopen immediately, or is it that you're just trying to extract pain against Trump and throw a temper tantrum? Well, as soon as the government gets back, open, back up, everybody who wants those SNAP benefits is going to get them. By the way, side note, Buck, have you seen a lot of the people being interviewed talking about their necessity of needing snap? Does it look like most of those people are a meal away from starvation? Because to me, it doesn't. And in fact, I think there's a stat out there that the people that are on SNAP benefits, as you pointed out, they're not making the most healthy decisions when it comes to the food that they're choosing to buy. And it used to be that we would hear all the time about, oh, you know, there's a food desert or there's an inability for people out there to be able to make healthy decisions. But as you pointed out, they did a study where they gave people subsidized healthy foods, and the overall purchases of food did not change at all. In fact, people continued to make unhealthy dietary decisions. But this idea that calorically, somehow, there's a huge percentage of Americans that are struggling and not getting enough to eat. Most of the people that are on SNAP benefits that I've seen interviewed talking about how desperately they need SNAP benefits actually look like they could go a couple of weeks without eating anything and might be in the healthier position.
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Buck Sexton
Look, I think, first of all, you know, if you, the CDC even estimates that the cost. We're talking about health care costs, extreme obesity costs the American health care system $200 billion a year. Extreme obesity. 200. I'm not, by the way, don't start. Oh, fuck. You know, I'm, you know, you've been 20 pounds or 40 pounds overweighted. No, no, I'm talking about like, like somebody who is morbidly obese. That's the term he used for $200 billion a year is what that costs. But the other part of this, and, you know, you've been tweeting about it, I've been tweeting about it. We need to actually look at what's going on with health care in this country because Obamacare, they want to move away from this now. Obamacare is a massive, by its own standards, everyone, a massive failure. It has increased, quote, coverage at the expense of cost, quality care. Everything has gotten worse. You have a little thing now that says you have Obamacare or whatever. You have a plan that's on an exchange or you're part of the Medicaid expansion, but you didn't increase doctors, you didn't increase efficiency in the system. You've made costs for those who actually pay for their health care premiums more than double. A lot of cases triple. And the, and the, the Democrats answer to this is to shovel tens of billions of subsidies in this. They're just hiding, Clay. They're just hiding the actual costs.
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Clay Travis
Well, when you subsidize something that is bad, the thing that you subsidize gets worse. And we subsidized health care. All Obamacare really is, is a huge giveaway to insurance companies. And do you know who the most hated groups of companies in America are? Health care insurance companies. Because no one has any idea what things cost. Because you can't figure out why you have to pay X one week and the next week it goes to Y because there is no cost analysis associated with this at all. So Obamacare is an unmitigated disaster, Buck. It is a failure of epic magnitude.
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Buck Sexton
And it failed in exactly the ways that people like me, who were opposed to it at the time said it would. I'm not saying I'm the only one. All Republicans were paying attention knew this, Clay, but it is an absolute mess. It is a disaster. And I think that we all need to start to grapple with the realities of the health care system instead of really what it is, is they just plan to make the whole thing collapse into a single payer. That's the whole. They're just going to make everything Medicare, they're going to try to do the Canada model here, which is going to be a nightmare, everybody. It's just going to make it all worse.
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Clay Travis
When we come back, I want to hear what MSNBC viewing was like this morning. Oh yeah, I saw you with the six box. You know things have gotten serious when you have six people who simultaneously need to be talking about how awful things are. And I've also seen some of the blue sky reactions. Blue sky is the far left wing version of Twitter and they're having complete meltdowns there over the Democrats bending the knee to King Trump. We'll talk about that. Unfortunately, we lost. Buck, I don't know if you got your prize picks pick in or not, but we lost and we lost early, unfortunately. I'm gonna give you another pick on Thursday. We gotta get back on the winning trail. We've had four wins, which to be fair is more than I thought we would have over the course of the entire season because we're actually playing a try to win multiples right 2, 3x your money, which means you don't have a huge percentage chance of winning every week. But you can have a 100% chance in my opinion, of having fun with prize picks. You can play in California, you can play in Texas, you can play in Georgia. No matter where you are in the country, you can get hooked up right now@prizepix.com when you use my name, Clay. You play $5 and you get $50 deposited into your account. That's prizepicks.com code click play again. California, Texas, Georgia, Florida. If you're feeling left out, 40 different states. It's awesome. You're going to have more fun if you love football. We signed up. We just moved. Finally we've got YouTube TV. I know there's been a big battle, but we had the NFL Sunday ticket this weekend. The boys were watching. President Trump was calling games. If you didn't see it, he was in Washington in the press box breaking down the game with the the people calling the Washington game against the Detroit Lions. It was a lot of fun. We'll have some fun talking about that. But in the meantime, you can get $50 when you play. $5. That's prizepix.com code clay pricepix.com code clay.
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Clay Travis
VIP email I remember when Clay blasted Buck for walking uphill on a treadmill. I'm a fellow Miami and I too vouched for buck as a 40 plus year old man walking uphill on a treadmill. It gets so hot and humid. It's good summer exercise for high heart rates. Now Clay wants to join in. As if we all forgot how much he lambasted Buck and his masculinity as a treadmill guy. Buck needs an apology. All of us working podcast listening treadmillers do too.
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Buck Sexton
Now look, I forgot, but this guy is onto something, Clay, because you did give me a hard time over walking up, up uphill on the treadmill. True.
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Clay Travis
It is true. Now that was not live on the air. So there's a possibility that I tear my ACL trying to do this. I don't know if it's a good move or a crazy move.
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Buck Sexton
Is this what happens now? I get the 100 mile an hour, 103 mile an hour serve and now we're just gonna do crazier physical middle aged guy feats as we go along. This is.
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Clay Travis
I'm gonna get a picture. This is a ridiculous idea.
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Buck Sexton
But.
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Clay Travis
But yeah, this is the first day here. All right.
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Clay Travis
You are the number one fan of Morning Joe. Don't downplay it here. You are their base.
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Buck Sexton
Clay, just because I am so dedicated for this team that I'm willing to suffer through this. Let's, let's. Let's not pretend like I just want to see what kind of zip sweater Joe is wearing so I can mirror image it myself sometime or I can watch Mika get all hissy up there.
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Clay Travis
I don't know. Well, Buck, I don't. I just. Just doing a little bit of viewing. They don't seem very happy.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, I had a female co host on TV at one point. I gotta tell you, marriage is tough enough. I can't imagine being married and then showing up and being co hosts on a TV show together as well. That would be. It's a lot. That's a lot. That's a lot of stuff. That's why I try not to text Clay over the weekend because like 15 hours during the week of talking to each other, not enough. I gotta be like, hey, buddy, what's going on? What are you up to? You know, we try to try to give each other a little space on the weekends as Clay is now catching his breath on the treadmill. So we have no. He's good.
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Clay Travis
He's money.
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Buck Sexton
He's so money.
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Clay Travis
I'm gonna be in such elite shape, people are not going to recognize me now with treadmill set up.
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Buck Sexton
So Morning Joe, they had to come up with some kind of a position on it. And I just want you to get a sense, you already know where this is going. Somehow the Democrats shut down the government, caused all this pain, didn't get the concession that they were demanding, didn't get the, you know, the. Rather the hostage taking did not result in what they actually wanted. And the real takeaway here is that the American people, according to Morning Joe, are blaming Republicans. Play 4. This is not like a Republican position or a Democratic position when it comes to the voters and certainly not an independent fight. This is not partisan. There are Americans in red state America who desperately need this help. There are Americans in blue state America that need this help too. But I guarantee you from Dalton, Georgia to Bucks County, Pennsylvania, to every place in America, rural place in America also. Listen, the Republicans are not on their side, not in this debate. And I just, it sounds a little bit like a guy who's practicing a stump speech. Part one, Part two. Part two. This is Republicans fault. Like they're just doing the thing that we said they would do all along, which is they've lit the fire, ok? The house is now burning, the fire department's coming and they're walking around telling the neighbors, can you believe these guys lit this fire, Clay? It's crazy what's going on here.
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Clay Travis
I also think it's kind of amazing how quickly we went from boy, Republicans are really going to have to have a civil war now to Democrats are at each other's throats almost overnight. And I just wonder in a larger context. You and I asked this question from the get go. You can't enter into a decision like the Democrats did here with no exit ramp. We talked about this for 40 days. We said there is no exit ramp here. There is no goal that they are somehow in some form or fashion going to get. And so again, no kings protest on. What was it, October 18, that Saturday, beautiful day all over the country that Democrats gave up to rally against President Trump. And then you had the election. And I do think it probably juiced turnout in Northern Virginia and helped them get a little bit more political power in that state than they otherwise would have. But then everybody who is in any way moderate on the Democrat side of the aisle just says, hey, we got to sue for peace. And buck, I think the ultimate yes, it was no kings. Yes, it was also the election having taken place. We told you that it would get solved right after that. I think what they didn't calculate was, I guarantee you, they're getting blown up about all of the issues at airports. Because it's one thing to hear, hey, the government shut down and it's having this impact. I'm talking about if you're not air traffic control, if you're not military, if you're not a federal employee. But as soon as I show up at the airport and I have to stand in line for hours to get through tsa, or even worse than that, you get to the airport, you stand in line for hours at tsa, and then your flight gets canceled, Democrat, Republican, or Independent, people are mad. And you don't want to be on the receiving end of people being mad, especially when there isn't really a basis to. For any kind of tangible result that they're going to get. And that was why I actually thought about you this morning. When I woke up, I was like, I don't want to put on msnbc. I got to get the kids to school. I got to make sure that things are going okay here. But a part of me was a little bit jealous that you got to sit and watch the chaos unspool on msnbc, because I did put it on for just a few minutes last night just to see all of the people on the panel saying, wait a minute, they got us all worked up. They told us that they were standing up to Trump. And then the result is, after 40 days, they say, well, we made the conversation shift. Oh, we made this. They just failed. And it just makes them look utterly incompetent. And a part of me wonders if they're going to demand Chuck Schumer's head on a platter over this buck.
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Buck Sexton
Oh, guess what? Sunny Hostin.
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Clay Travis
Oh, yeah, Chief.
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Buck Sexton
Chief bitterness analyst over at the View. She's. She's the queen of. Queen of bitter. Just always, always unhappy about something.
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Clay Travis
Can you imagine being married to Sunny Hostenbach? Can you imagine that poor bastard husband, like, how awful his life must be? I bet he works 180 hours a week just to avoid having to spend time with her. She just seems like an energy vampire of epic magnitude. Even in the context of the View. I don't think I'd be fun to be married to Whoopi or Joy Behar. But they don't seem like they're awful humans. Sunny Hostin seems to me to be an awful human.
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Buck Sexton
She's. She's definitely. She really. You should call her Sunny. Hostile. Oh, she's very. She's very hostile.
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Clay Travis
Yes, very.
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Buck Sexton
You know what I mean? She's very, very an unhospitable and hostile. Here she is. She's hostile toward Chuck Schumer, it turns out. Play 20 now.
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Clay Travis
They just caved and surrendered.
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Clay Travis
He cannot put that.
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Buck Sexton
If he cannot keep his caucus together. If he cannot keep his caucus together.
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Clay Travis
He needs to go play.
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Buck Sexton
What this really is, is, you know, remember the, the, the two minutes hate with Emanuel Goldstein, 1984, where everyone just shouts, you know, Emmanuel Goldstein so bad. And no one even, no one even knows who this guy is or what's going on or whatever. But it's just meant to get everybody. This is the left just venting their spleen, their rage, their anger at Trumpism. And this was all in advance of the election, going to election day to make them think Democrats are fighting. It was all Kabuki theater. It's all a pantomime.
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Clay Travis
I, I also think, Buck, this could be one of the lasting impacts of it. They have created a world, if you go look at issues where people think, oh, Democrats, they care about healthcare more than Republicans. Now, I'm not saying that everybody out there listening right now believes this, but they have created the idea, oh, we care way more about healthcare than the opposing party. I actually think the failure of Obamacare is going to open a larger conversation about health care where we sit back and we say, wait a minute. Structurally, all we did with Obamacare was give huge subsidies to health insurance companies that huge majorities of Americans don't like. Instead of. I saw Trump put up a truth post about this. Instead of putting more money in people's pockets and letting them make rational decisions about what health care they need or want, that is the best result for their family. For all of you out there, they said, hey, let's just give way more money to health insurance companies and let's mandate that everybody has to buy health insurance. It's a really bad idea that I don't think Republicans have really elucidated. Well, you have the least popular for profit businesses in America, healthcare companies, companies. And the Democrats solution that people Feel like cheat them, that people feel like don't give them adequate coverage, that don't give them adequate customer service. Can you even get your healthcare provider, insurance company on the phone? And when you do, how many times do they actually help you or even be able to explain why you're being charged, what you are? I mean, I hate health insurance companies. Most of you do, too. In fact, you might even argue with your spouse over who has to call the health insurance company when you have a billing dispute because it's such a miserable experience. And so the Democrats solution to healthcare was to give the least popular industry in America a handout of hundreds of billions of dollars to make them more money. I'm sorry, that's a really bad position for them to try to defend.
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Buck Sexton
Well, you know, this is where you get into the ways that this market is. It's not a market really at all manipulated so much that it's just central. It's just central planning held together with some elements of the market in some places. But, Clay, this is when people find out that if you have insurance, the price could be, you know, $600 for whatever it is that you're doing. If you don't have insurance, the price can be $300 way cheaper. But. But if they find out you have insurance, you're not allowed to pay the $300. No insurance price.
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Clay Travis
Correct.
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Buck Sexton
This is all about taking money from some people to pay for other people who don't want to pay for the stuff that they're getting. That is the whole thing. And by the way, this is all. It's not insurance. It's not even insurance. You should not be paying for. You know, rather, when you go into the doctor for your checkup and for these things, you shouldn't be filing a claim. You know? You know, this is when people think about with their car. When do you call your car insurer? If somebody t bones you at an intersection and you've got real damage, right? Or, you know, there's something that's serious happened to your car. You don't call them if, you know, an acorn scratches the rim and you don't call them for gas. But our whole health care system is just that now, you know, everywhere you go. I can't even get Sinclair. I could go in somewhere, you know, oh, I think I have a sinus infection. And to fill out 15 minutes of paperwork about all my. By the way, even though it's all online now, you still have to fill out the stupid paperwork over and over and over again. What's your insurance? Do you have a secondary insurer? Who's your spouse? Who.
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Clay Travis
It's all garbage. It's infuriating. It's infuriating. And that's why I think Republicans have an opportunity here, because all Democrats have done is subsidize the most hated industry in America and give them more money to an already broken system. And I think that conversation is actually going to become more paramount here because this is a major, major issue. And look, Democrats are going to try to make it an issue in 2026. I think trying to defend health insurance companies as doing a good job and deserving more of our money is not something that most Americans are going to nod along with. And I just come back to time after time after time. The reason health care is broken in this country is because nobody has any idea. That builds on just what you were saying, Buck. What anything is going to cost. Oh, hold on.
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Buck Sexton
You're not allowed to know. It's actually worse than that. You're not allowed to know what it costs.
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Clay Travis
It's.
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Buck Sexton
It's not like you're just walking around, you know, like, oh, just, you know, who cares about whatever. I could go into the, the back office of a hospital and say, hey, guys, what. What is the actual cost of this? They'll say, we'll get back to you in three months with a big bill, by the way.
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Clay Travis
Look, I talked about this when my wife was having bait with our babies. Right. It's one of the few health care things where you can actually go around and ask what something costs. I said, how much is it going to cost to have a baby here? I'd like to compare that cost with somewhere else. They said, well, we don't know how. Can you give me an opportunity to tour maternity wards? And the only thing you're not competing on, you're competing on WI fi, bamboo flooring, waiting rooms. You can't tell me what the cost is. It was.
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Buck Sexton
I can tell you this saying everybody out here in Miami beach, in this area at least, it's all. It's all turning into concierge medicine.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
People are just. Doctors are just opting out of this system. And it's not because they're being greedy. They just want to be able to practice medicine without being paperwork, you know, addled bureaucrats all day long. And so people are just paying. This is what's gonna increasingly happen. And you're gonna have all these Democrats saying, I love Obamacare. They're not on Obamacare plans.
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Clay Travis
Correct.
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Buck Sexton
They're on gold plated amazing plans. They see any doctor they want, they don't pay anything. I mean, friends, if you wanna see what their version of healthcare looks like for all of us, go see how it all was working out in the Soviet Union. Yeah, sure, it was all free, but.
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Clay Travis
Well, you know, the government employees who never gave a paycheck. Yeah, everybody in Congress, they kept getting paid.
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Buck Sexton
We'll take, we'll take your calls on this. My friends here in a moment. We're making progress with the Trump administration with some of the spending cutbacks, but the debt is still huge. 37 trillion and counting. Inflation is still a problem. Cost of living is high. I want to help you save some money. Why not? Why throw more of your money away every month? There's no reason. Pure Talk, my friends. Pure Talk can cut your wireless bill big time. It can cut it in half. In fact, when you switch to Pure Talk, they don't have bloated programs or incentives. They're very straightforward and they want to give you the best pricing and the best customer Service. Switching to PureTalk is a common sense thing to do. Dial pound 250, say Clay and Buck. Dial pound 250, say Clay & Buck. PureTalk's US customer service team will get you switched. Dial pound 250, say Clay&Buck.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show we are rolling through the Monday edition of the program. Shutdown is over effectively Buck, if you're wondering out there you're maybe been missing a paycheck, maybe you haven't been able to go to work. It appears Thursday the official official end of the shutdown will get here.
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Buck Sexton
The vote is Wednesday, right? The the actual all Senate. Okay, we're open. That's supposed to happen Wednesday.
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Clay Travis
But but in general that is the direction we are headed is to having that situation resolved sooner rather than sooner rather than later. That doesn't mean however I saw up on the screen that we are dealing with unbelievable amounts of canceled flights today. A lot of you out there having to deal with a great deal of frustration associated with this and and certainly all of this has blown up in the Democrat faces. We'll take some of your calls. 800-282-2882. Also a couple of other stories to get into in the next hour. Buck Michelle Obama I don't think we've she continues to do interviews. She is complaining. Maybe the least grateful person who has had immense amounts of should have immense amounts of gratitude ever. We will talk about that the BBC screw up pretty significant. You may not care but it's yet another thing that a major news organization has gotten wrong and the Olympics have decided to line up buck and ban trans people that's men pretending to be women from being able to compete going forward. So all of that moving in a very, very positive direction with sanity hopefully returning in that respect. So we will break down all of that as we roll into the second hour of the program.
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Buck Sexton
It's going to be a fantastic, some might even say fabulous second hour of Clay and Buck Radio. Amen.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Jim started advertising with iHeartRadio way back in April and now I have customers out the door. And this is Sarah.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
She started putting a portion of her marketing dollars in podcasting back in June.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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