The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show - Episode: Hour 1 - New C&B Steak Bet!
Release Date: July 31, 2025
Host/Authors: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton
Podcast Platform: iHeartPodcasts

Overview

In this episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve into the murky waters of American politics, focusing particularly on former Vice President Kamala Harris and her potential political future. The discussion is marked by sharp analysis, personal opinions, and a spirited debate between the two hosts regarding Kamala Harris's prospects for the 2028 presidential race.

Kamala Harris's Political Future

Clay Travis initiates the conversation by addressing Kamala Harris's recent announcements: her decision not to run for Governor of California in 2026 and the upcoming release of her book, 107 Days. He raises the question of whether Harris is signaling her exit from serious politics permanently or merely biding her time for a potential 2028 presidential run.

• [03:19] Clay Travis: "Do you believe that she will run in 2028? Or do you think this is effectively Kamala Harris waving the proverbial white flag and letting it be known that she is no longer going to be involved in serious politics."

Buck Sexton counters Clay's optimism by expressing skepticism about Harris's political longevity. He suggests that Harris might transition to a ceremonial role at a university or a think tank, distancing herself from active politics.

• [04:05] Buck Sexton: "I am a firm believer in Kamala Harris is on her way to a chancellorship or some other quasi ceremonial, overpaid role at a UC school."

Contrary to Buck's stance, Clay Travis argues that Harris lacks alternatives outside of politics and may feel compelled to run again to fill the perceived void in her life.

• [05:08] Clay Travis: "This is me getting into the psychoanalysis of Kamala Harris. One, she's 60. That is relatively young, as these things go in the political process... I think she's an empty soul and politics feels the void in her life that otherwise doesn't exist."

Debating Harris's Necessity to Run

The hosts engage in a deep dive into whether Harris has the drive and necessity to pursue another presidential bid. Clay believes that without significant personal fulfillment outside politics, Harris might see another run as her only meaningful option.

• [08:23] Clay Travis: "I don't think she has anything else in her life. This. This is me getting into the psychoanalysis of Kamala Harris."

Buck, however, maintains that politics was merely a means for Harris to gain prominence and financial stability, and suggests she lacks the campaign experience necessary to mount a successful bid.

• [08:39] Buck Sexton: "She never had to run a real campaign... she's the dei, the pinnacle of dei. And it all collapsed."

Democratic Party Dynamics and Minority Candidates

Clay and Buck explore the Democratic Party's future leadership, particularly concerning minority female candidates. Clay posits that Kamala Harris remains the primary minority candidate capable of securing significant support, especially among Black voters.

• [11:07] Clay Travis: "They’re going to say you're the only black candidate that can get black support."

Buck counters by arguing that the Democratic Party doesn't necessarily need a minority candidate to secure these votes, pointing to Joe Biden's substantial support within the Black community despite not being a minority himself.

• [11:45] Clay Travis: "But Joe Biden didn't have to overcome a minority candidate because Kamala was so bad."

Poll and Audience Interaction

The hosts introduce a poll to gauge their audience's opinions on whether Kamala Harris will run in 2028. As of the timestamp at [35:24], the poll results show 60% of respondents agree with Buck's assessment that Harris will not run, while 40% side with Clay's viewpoint.

• [35:41] Clay Travis: "60% of you agree with Buck that she will not run. That is Kamala Harris will not run in 2028 presidential cycle. 40% of you agree with me."

Highlighting Kamala Harris's Campaign Missteps

Buck plays audio clips showcasing some of Kamala Harris's most criticized moments during her vice-presidential campaign, such as her failed attempts to discuss border issues and her poor performance in interviews.

• [24:40] Buck Sexton: "You haven't been to the border, and."

Clay emphasizes that such gaffes undermine Harris's credibility and question her suitability for future leadership roles.

• [27:19] Buck Sexton: "That's why tying in, I think if she were governor, I don't think she'd be able to run for president because I think she would have so many gaffes as California governor where she has to be in an executive role that it would be considered impossible for her."

Listener Engagement and Final Thoughts

Towards the end of the episode, Clay and Buck interact with a caller, Don from Wisconsin, who agrees with Buck's assessment that Kamala Harris would make poor leadership choices, further reinforcing their skepticism about her political future.

• [38:34] Buck Sexton: "That's interesting, I think, at that. Thank you for calling in, Don."

Clay Travis concludes by reiterating his belief that Harris's potential presidency would be detrimental to the country, suggesting that her track record and decision-making skills fall short of what a great president requires.

• [39:04] Clay Travis: "If you're right 70% of the time, you're a great president. If you're right 60% of the time, you're a good president. If you're only right 25% of the time, which maybe Biden was, you're an awful president, one of the worst ever."

Conclusion

This episode offers a critical examination of Kamala Harris's role in American politics, with Clay Travis advocating for her potential return to the political arena in 2028, while Buck Sexton provides a counterpoint emphasizing her shortcomings and likelihood of stepping away from active politics. The discussion underscores the complex dynamics within the Democratic Party and raises pertinent questions about leadership, representation, and political viability moving forward.

Notable Quotes:

• Clay Travis ([05:08]): "This is me getting into the psychoanalysis of Kamala Harris... I think she's an empty soul and politics feels the void in her life that otherwise doesn't exist."

• Buck Sexton ([08:39]): "She never had to run a real campaign... she's the dei, the pinnacle of dei. And it all collapsed."

• Clay Travis ([11:07]): "They’re going to say you're the only black candidate that can get black support."

• Buck Sexton ([24:40]): "You haven't been to the border, and."

• Clay Travis ([39:04]): "If you're right 70% of the time, you're a great president... If you're only right 25% of the time, which maybe Biden was, you're an awful president, one of the worst ever."

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