Hour 1 - No Kings Loser-fest

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 1 - No Kings Loser-fest
Date: October 20, 2025
Hosts: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton

Overview

This episode is dominated by sharp, mocking commentary on the recent “No Kings” protest against President Trump. Clay and Buck dig into the protest’s lack of impact, the motivations of its participants, and the broader state of leftwing protest culture in America. The show mixes humor and pointed political insight, also touching on topics like the Louvre heist, diamond rings, and wedding advice.

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Main Topics & Key Segments

1. No Kings Protest: Mockery and Dissection

[02:38–14:28]

The Protest’s Purpose and Failure

• Clay Travis ridicules the “No Kings” protest, emphasizing its futility and irrelevance.
  • “Congratulations to all of the no Kings protestors. You succeeded. Trump is still not a king.” (02:52; Clay Travis)
• Suggests protesters are “mostly old white people” and the display is “pathetic and bedraggled.”
• Buck jokes that the protest is about as necessary as a “no purple sky protest.” (05:35)

Satirizing Protester Motivation

• Buck: “They are really ineffective at coming up with something that sounds cool and has teeth behind it... you ask yourself immediately, what is the point of this?” (05:35)
• Compares the current protest culture to failed past movements like the “Women’s March” and “hashtag resistance.”
• Both hosts refer to the event as a “loser fest.”
  • Buck: “It was really a loser fest.” (07:59)
• Clay notes the majority demographic as “age 50 to 75” whose “team in the 1960s” has now flipped sides, ironically protesting “in favor of big government and censorship.” (09:50–11:52)

Quotes & Humor

• Joe Rogan clip: “All those people that are protesting on the streets, 99% of them are losers. The other ones work for the Fed. FBI agents and losers.” (12:02; Joe Rogan quoted)
• Trump on the protest: “I'm not a king. I'm working my ass off to make our country great ... I think it's a joke. I looked at the people. They're not representative of this country.” (12:54; Donald Trump quoted)

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2. Political Impact and Broader Context

[08:38–14:28]

• Buck argues these types of protests unintentionally admit that Trump has politically defeated his opposition: “This is... an admission, though, that Trump politically has defeated them.” (13:34)
• Clay notes the “Trump resistance is effectively broken everywhere but the judiciary.” (14:28)
• Trump is said to be “at probably his strongest political position in terms of approval that he has had during the course of his presidency.” (14:28; Clay Travis)

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3. Louvre Heist: Outrage and Amazement

[21:03–31:48]

Reporting the Story

• Buck details a dramatic, real-life heist at the Louvre, where “guys dressed in construction worker garb managed to steal... the actual crown jewels” in broad daylight. (21:03)
• Clay expresses disbelief, comparing it to a movie plot: “I thought this was a made up story.” (22:55)
• The hosts mock French security and discuss the stolen items’ potential fate, referencing pop culture (Outer Banks TV show, Thomas Crown Affair).
• Speculation on motivation: Buck wonders if a “super rich billionaire” commissioned the crime. (27:37)

Quotes & Moments

• Clay: “It is the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution [for France]…the French crown jewels just being stolen is embarrassing.” (24:57)
• Buck: “Can you, do you melt diamonds? I don't think you can melt.” (27:05)
• Clay proposes a humorous motive: “This is kind of the Middle Eastern sheik equivalent of when Kobe bought his wife the $12 million ring after he got caught cheating on her.” (29:13)

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4. Diamonds, Weddings, and Financial Advice

[30:09–45:44]

Diamond Rings & Social Commentary

• Clay and Buck debate lab-grown vs. mined diamonds, the cost of engagement rings, and societal expectations.
  • “Do not go into debt for diamonds, for vacations, or for anything...” (33:04; Buck Sexton)
• Critique the “three months’ salary” engagement ring rule as marketing.
• Encourage financial responsibility: invest in property, not extravagant weddings/rings.

Real-Life Wedding Advice & Call-In

• Ken from Michigan calls in with a tip: Allocate a fixed wedding budget and let the couple keep the surplus. He says the approach made his daughters reconsider expenses. (42:37)
• Both hosts recommend spending less on weddings/rings, more on things that last (like homes).
• Clay: “Can you imagine Buck getting married and owing 50k to help pay off your wedding?” (44:12)

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5. Lighter Banter & Personal Anecdotes

[31:10–46:48]

• Sharing personal stories about buying engagement rings, wedding planning, and the changing diamond industry.
• Buck: “My actual wedding, we had 25 people... Carrie might correct me. She would know better...” (44:12)
• Advice to men: “If the girl is going to be upset about the size of the ring, you need to run in [the] other direction.” (45:19)

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Notable Quotes

• Clay Travis: “You have had tremendous success. You have managed to ensure that President Trump is not, in fact, a king.” (02:53)
• Buck Sexton: “This is one of these times where they can't even find what the primary issue is or they can't come up with what they are most upset about. So they've just created this.” (06:07)
• Joe Rogan (quoted): “All those people that are protesting on the streets, 99% of them are losers. The other ones work for the Fed. FBI agents and losers.” (12:02)
• Donald Trump (quoted): “I'm not a king. I'm not a king. I work my ass off to make our country great. That's all it is.” (13:20)
• Clay Travis: “The Trump resistance is effectively broken everywhere. But the judiciary...” (14:28)
• Buck Sexton: “Do not go into debt for diamonds, for vacations, or for anything that... you know.” (33:04)

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Key Timestamps

• 02:38 – Mockery of the “No Kings” protest begins
• 07:59 – Protest called a “loser fest”
• 12:02 – Joe Rogan quote on protesters
• 12:54 – Trump responds to ‘king’ accusations
• 13:34 – Protest as tacit admission of Trump’s political strength
• 21:03 – Discussion of the Louvre heist
• 27:37 – Theorizing on motives for stealing the crown jewels
• 33:04 – Wedding and diamond financial advice
• 42:37 – Caller Ken shares practical wedding advice

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Conclusion

This hour of the show is a fast-paced blend of biting political commentary and playful banter, focused mainly on mocking the anti-Trump “No Kings” protest and its participants. The hosts ridicule the disconnect between protest messaging and political reality, highlight Trump’s continued relevance, and use outside news (the Louvre heist) as a way to keep the show entertaining. The second half transitions fluidly into social advice about weddings and diamonds, with personal stories and practical wisdom wrapped in signature humor.

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Transcript

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome in Monday Edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We hope all of you had Fantastic weekends. We are off and running with a brand. President Trump is in the White House right now having a meeting with the Australian Prime Minister and taking questions from reporters as we are beginning the program. He is Congratulations to all of the no Kings protestors. You succeeded. Trump is still not a king. So everyone out there who spent their weekend wasting a beautiful fall Saturday to protest, you have had tremendous success. You have managed to ensure that President Trump is not, in fact, a king. And you have reiterated the fact that we won the Revolutionary War in 1783 and once and for all kicked the king to the curb. This is, I think we could have some fun with this right off the jump. Buck. I. So let me give you a little bit. Remember I said I bet that the momentum to get the government shut down, to the extent that people are worried about the government shutdown, that it would drastically change as soon as the no Kings protest was over. There is now evidently a lot of momentum for the government shutdown to be ended. They may drag it on through the elections if they think they get some form of benefit in Virginia, New Jersey or New York City over the government shutdown. But there now is momentum that there may be a resolution there. And I think this was to a large extent just the Chuck Schumers and Hakeem Jeffries of the world knowing that a no Kings protest was coming. If they bent the knee to King Trump before the protest, it would have stripped whatever modicum of energy might still have existed in these mostly old white people protests. That looks frankly quite pathetic and bedraggled, as we said when we went to the drove through the protest in the cold rain in January of 2025 as Trump was preparing to be inaugurated. So all of this feels like a big nothing burger, so to speak. But they are arguing, oh my goodness, this is amazing. What was your takeaway? We did Fox News together on Saturday morning right before the no Kings protest took off with, with our friend Kayleigh McEnany. But the whole thing is just, it just feels desperate. And every time they do one of these protests, they feel less efficient and less effective and, and just make me feel sad for the protesters more than anything else.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, this just shows you where the state of things currently lies. They are really ineffective at coming up with something that sounds cool and has teeth behind it. So much so that they're doing this thing that you, you ask yourself immediately, what is the point of this? If there was a no purple sky protest, you would say to yourself, right.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, big, big success.

[Buck Sexton]

We're good. Like we've got that covered. Trump is obviously not a king. This sounds very emotionally erratic and unstable. This whole notion of Donald Trump as a monarch. They have a guy here who is constantly having to go to court to deal with this federal judge or that federal judge. You got the government shut down because of what Congress is doing. There is no reason for people to act like this. Although I really do believe the only proper response to the no Kings protest would be to have Trump 2028 rallies. Not that I actually think Trump is going to run in 28, but it'll just really dig in more to these lunatics. This is, this is one of these times where they can't even find what the primary issue is or they can't come up with what they are most upset about. So they've just created this. You know, it reminds me like the women's march. Yeah, right, yeah, the women's march was really just code for like abortion. And also like a lot of like feminists who hate Trump because he's clearly not, you know, Trump is not someone the feminists are going to be particularly fond of. And then there was a hashtag resistance for a while, but everyone stopped using hashtags. Really? You don't even really. I don't see them on social media anymore. Uh, they're too annoying. People don't use them. So hashtag resistance wasn't really good. Black Lives Matter was a statement of the obvious. And true that was effective in its time because of the emotional manipulation that they were able to put behind it. But this just, it's just weak. It's sad. This is, to me, Clay, the expansion of what we saw at the anti inauguration protest, which was a bunch of people that don't even really know why they're there. They're just upset and they want to be around other upset people. It was really a loser fest.

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

And I. And actually a lot of sad exclamation point is what you feel when you see this. Because also what's the great purpose of this mobilization? So that maybe they can take a midterm advantage and they'll be able to get the House and they'll probably impeach Trump for the third time. It'd be the third. Third time.

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[Buck Sexton]

I mean, Trump's not going to be president all that much longer. They should maybe come up with why does the rational part of the country think that the Democrat party is insane? And how can they stop being so crazy instead of these very silly and self indulgent protests, all very childish.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. And frankly, I mean, you said what Joe Rogan said, and I'll play cut nine here in a sec. But you know what's interesting more than anything else is I think, and I tweeted something because I just, I can't imagine. And I understand that not all of you are college football diehards like I am. But. But I do think it is a sign of where we are in America. Whatever your part of the country that you're listening to us or watching us in. Right now is mid October is maybe the greatest time of the year. The weather tends to be really good almost everywhere. We're getting close to Halloween. It's the fall season kind of starting to kick off in earnest to give up a beautiful Saturday to go walk around and protest a democratically elected president 11 months ago when he won the landslide election. I just, and I watched the videos because I was genuinely curious who's going to show up. There is just a segment, I would say, of people age 50 to 75, primarily who Trump has just broken.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, this is boomers. A lot of boomers who are trying to relive the perceived glory of the 60s.

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

That's really what this is. And a lot of this stuff you see with this, the left has a protest culture. Yeah, I've, I've been to many of these protests to cover them or to take photos and video of what they're doing. And they, they really feel the need. The same way that you're annoying liberal aunt at Thanksgiving is going to feel the need to give you her very uninformed opinions on politics. Even when you just want to have some stuffing and like, go home, you don't want to deal with it. These particular, these libs of the kind that we're talking about really think that showing up and being a, quote, part of something like this is some profound statement of their own worth and importance. And it's actually just sad. They should have gone to a college. If I, I'm not even a big college football guy.

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

If I had the choice of going to any college football game in America or one of these protests, it's 100 times more fun, enjoyable and worthwhile to go to a college football game.

[Clay Travis]

Amen. Even though Alabama kicked Tennessee's ass, which was really unfortunate, I will say also, you hit on it in the 1960s. The energy for protests came from young people. And those of you who lived through the 1960s remind, remember that, well, the vast majority of people at the no Kings protests were over the age of 65. And I do think there's an element of what you're saying, Buck, which is these people picked their team in the 1960s, and they don't even realize that they now are the opposite of the protests that they were having in the 1960s. They are now protesting in favor of big government and in favor of all of the things that.

[Buck Sexton]

Censorship.

[Clay Travis]

Censorship.

[Buck Sexton]

In favor of censorship.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, that's right. And so that is an irony. Here's Joe Rogan pointing out that the no Kings protesters, 99% of them are losers.

[Buck Sexton]

All those people that are protesting on the streets, 99% of them are losers. The other ones work for the Fed. FBI agents and losers.

[Clay Travis]

That's all it is.

[Buck Sexton]

The whole every protest, dude, is FBI agents and losers. I talk about this all the time. I'm like, for me, you want me.

[Donald Trump (quoted)]

To join a Protestant?

[Buck Sexton]

You want me to get out on the street, first of all to make a sign, the out of here. And then you don't have to make the sign. There's a guy with a van who's paid by George Soros and he's got stack signs that were made at Kinko's, okay? They're not homemade at all. And you just, just pass those bad boys out.

[Clay Travis]

It is very funny. They are complete losers and they wasted a fall Saturday. And here is President Trump, who was asked about it. Cut one. I'm not a king. I'm working my ass off to make our country great. This was on Air Force One yester over the weekend, the new King's Breakfast.

[Donald Trump (quoted)]

I think it's a joke. I looked at the people. They're not representative of this country. And I looked at all the brand new signs. Paid for. I guess it was paid for by Soros and other radical left lunatics. It looks like it was. We're checking it out. The demonstrations were very small, very ineffective, and the people were whacked out. When you look at those people, those are not representative of the people of.

[Clay Travis]

Our country, Mr. President, besides San Francisco.

[Donald Trump (quoted)]

By the way, I'm not a king. I'm not a king. I work my ass off to make our country great. That's all it is. I'm not a king at all.

[Clay Travis]

So Trump is not a king. They were successful. If their goal was to stop a king from being in power, isn't this.

[Buck Sexton]

Also really an admission, though, that Trump politically has defeated them?

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

If you're concerned with a president who has been elected twice, despite all of your efforts to stop both of those from happening, if your concern is this idea that now he's president for life and therefore more like a king. I think they're just, they're recognizing that they did everything they could to stop Donald Trump from being president for eight years and they failed. So now they create this, it's like Don Quixote tilting at windmills. They create this fantasy in their minds of, well, now our great cause, Clay, is to stop him from being president for life. Yes. He's not going to be president for life, you losers. Okay, take it, take a calm down moment here. Take a chill pill. As we used to say in the 90s, relax. Well, they can't because that would make them think about what they're actually doing with their life.

[Clay Travis]

I think it also is, is embodies the fact that the Trump resistance is effectively broken everywhere. But the judiciary, the judiciary is constantly making rulings to try to take away President Trump's power. And that's why much of the discussion that we have about what Trump can and cannot do is not a bit not about what the Democrat Party is trying to stop him from doing. It's what is some unelected federal district court judge doing when they're trying to say, hey, the President doesn't have power to order this or take that action. And it just kind of feels increasingly pathetic. And Trump, according to many different polls that I have seen out there, is at right now probably his strongest political position in terms of approval that he has had during the course of his presidency. We really haven't seen any weakening at all as we come up on the one year anniversary of his election in 2024 and he's having one of the most, I think effective presidency's first years that we've ever seen in the history of the country. We'll take some of your calls. We'll break all this down. I am up in New York City. We'll talk some about the New York City mayor's race. Buck, which is increasingly. There's new polling out basically showing if Curtis Lee was stays in the race, that mom, Donnie is going to win. If he were to drop out, maybe Cuomo could give him a run. That's what the latest polling is reflecting. But in the gambling markets out there, the prediction markets, Mom, Donnie has surged to an all time high. There is this morning, Buck. I was doing research and reading this morning now a 92% chance, 92% chance in the prediction markets. You can put your own money if you disagree with it, that Mamdani is going to be elected the mayor of New York City. We'll talk about that. In the meantime, massive data breach occurred earlier this month. One billion. That's billion with a B. Customer records were stolen from a Salesforce database of 39 companies. Disney, Qantas, McDonald's, Aeromexico were among the companies that faced ransom demands from a well known online hacker group earlier this month. Stolen info includes passport numbers, names, birth dates. Cyber threats are everywhere. That's why having a LifeLock membership is crucial. Lifelock will monitor hundreds of millions of data points every second for identity threats, way more than anyone can do on their own. And LifeLock can alert you right away if anything pops up with your name attached. If you become a victim of online identity theft, you get your own restoration specialist who will fix identity theft guaranteed or your money back. Your protection backed by LifeLock's million dollar protection package. Start protecting your identity day with a 30 day free trial. Call 1-800-LIFELOCK or go to lifelock.com promo code CLAY for 30 days free. That's lifelock.com, promo code CLAY for thirty days free. Terms apply. You ain't imagining it. The world has gone insane. Reclaim your sanity with clay and bun. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Buck Sexton]

Been a long time since I've seen the Pink Panther or say Ocean's Eleven, a much more recent movie. But if you were paying attention to the news over the weekend, you might have seen that there was a stunning heist at the Louvre in Paris. Paris on Sunday. It was open for business. Tourists flocking in, probably getting close to the Mona Lisa where they realize they're in a very packed room and it's a small painting and, and it's behind like 10 inches of bulletproof bomb proof, nuclear bomb proof glass and it's not as exciting as you're hoping it's going to be. Sorry, I'm just telling you the Facts. But there are all these tourists jamming in there and some guys dressed in construction worker garb managed to steal over the course of about. This is 9:30am Sunday, France time. They got on an electric ladder mounted on a truck. They got to the second floor of the Apollo Gallery. This houses Clay Francis crown jewels. Yes, the actual crown jewels. And these guys used power tools, broke in and a couple of burglars broke into the most famous museum in the world and stole the most priceless jewels that France has. Eight pieces of jewelry. A sapphire tiara, necklace, earrings, royal emerald necklace, belong to Empress Eugenie, the wife of Napoleon iii. Clay, what the heck is going on here?

[Clay Travis]

I thought this was a made up story. I, because I thought to myself, surely, surely France could stop people from stealing things from the Louvre in 2025.

[Buck Sexton]

France could stop people from stealing the crown jewels.

[Clay Travis]

If this movie came out. I was talking about this with my wife. If this movie came out. It sounds crazier than An Ocean's Eleven. Like I would, I would not believe that they could steal the French crown jewels in a movie. I would say this is too unbelievable. How does this happen? They took them 10 minutes. How can you be in the crown jewel room for 10 minutes and they can't catch you? Like I went and I read all about this because I was traveling up here late last night and I just, I was reading every article on my airplane flight because I watched all the videos they just pulled. First of all, how can you. I got so many thoughts on this. You know what?

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show Everybody by the way, is reacting. Everybody thinks that's as crazy as you and I do, Buck. It's an embarrassment to France that they could steal the crown jewels. If somebody could go in and steal. This sounds like a Nicholas Cage movie because it is the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution. I would say, yeah, we really blew it here. I would guess that's probably the top thing that could be stolen in America. The French crown jewels just being stolen is embarrassing. As part of all my reading about the French crown jewels being stolen, I forgot, you know, they stole the Mona Lisa in the early 1900s. So if you, if you were France and you had had previously the Mona Lisa stolen out of the same museum a hundred years ago, don't you think you would have said, hey, let's make sure that none of our priceless artifacts ever get stolen again. And yet France somehow allowed this to occur. And, and to your point, Buck, it was the middle of the day, they just pulled in a lift, they went in through the second floor window. They were there for, I've seen different reports, seven to 10 minutes, which is a really long time to be in the most secure museum in your country. It should be. And then they left on motorcycles and now they have no idea where they are. And you mentioned, you know, it's hard to sell these and I think that's probably true. But my expert knowledge from the very high end television show Outer Banks, one possibility would be that they just melt this down for the jewels. But that doesn't seem like such a good move because the problem is historical value.

[Buck Sexton]

You can't melt the jewel. These are diamonds and emeralds, so you're not going to melt those down, right? You got to keep them whole. Can you, do you melt diamonds? I don't think you can melt.

[Clay Travis]

Well, I think you melt the gold and then you isolate all of the diamonds for the value.

[Buck Sexton]

But outside these diamonds and these emeralds are going to be so big that like you're not, you're not going to be able to go on the, on the open market. You're like, hey, I just happen to have this 20 carat emerald that I found. You know, I just feel like I.

[Clay Travis]

Am simultaneously impressed by the chutzpah of the robbers because I mean, they decided we're going to steal the French crown jewels and they managed to do it. I would imagine that they have been preparing for this for some Time. Although the report is they dropped one of the most valuable assets, like the. One of the crowns, I think, or something. And so it was left behind and damaged. But I wonder, do you think this is some insanely wealthy person who funds this? Because what is the motivation here other than embarrassing the French government? Because I can't imagine that it pays actually that well. Unless there's some super rich billionaire who just decided he had to have the Empress's. The Empress's necklace. Right.

[Buck Sexton]

It's like you're going all Thomas Crown affair. Like maybe there's somebody out there who's.

[Clay Travis]

Just so bored with his life, he's.

[Buck Sexton]

Like, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to steal the French crown jewels out of the Louvre. So I don't know. I wonder if some Middle Eastern sheikh.

[Clay Travis]

That'S kind of my thought wonder wants.

[Buck Sexton]

So badly to have the French crown jewels in his. In his safe that he would. But that's. I got high risks here.

[Clay Travis]

If that's true. It's not the, you know, Middle Eastern ruler.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah. Also just there's more fun, like go buy yourself a European soccer team or something. You know what I mean? Do what all the other super rich foreign guys do. I mean, you know, the crown jewels. I don't know what you do with these.

[Clay Travis]

My thought is if it's true that it was some Middle Eastern shake or something that says, hey, go get the, the Empress Josephine's, you know, necklace. This is kind of the Middle Eastern shake equivalent of when Kobe bought his wife the $12 million ring after he got caught cheating on her. Like one of those Middle Eastern sheiks did something really bad. And he's like, she's like, the only way I'll stay with you is if you get me the Empress Josephine's necklace. And he's like, all right, I guess we got to get the Empress Josephine's necklace. Right. Like, do you remember Kobe when he got caught? Actually, wasn't she.

[Buck Sexton]

That was after the woman, the woman accused him of raping her.

[Clay Travis]

Yes, right.

[Buck Sexton]

A forcible rape.

[Clay Travis]

And his wife stayed with him after the rape accusation. But they had a press conference and she showed up with a diamond that was like a 20 carat. It's like 20. Somebody look up how big the diamond was.

[Buck Sexton]

I think it was like four carats. Clay. I don't think it was.

[Clay Travis]

I think it was like 20 carats.

[Buck Sexton]

Is like a, is like a football.

[Clay Travis]

No, I think she basically showed up with a, with a flashlight sized diamond. I mean, like it Blinded everyone at the press conference. They were like, why did you decide to stay with Kobe? And she like raised her hand and four people lost their eyesight when they caught the reflection from the diamond. Eight.

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[Clay Travis]

I said four.

[Buck Sexton]

You said 20 is eight, Clay.

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[Buck Sexton]

A 20 carat ring would be like a baseball.

[Clay Travis]

That's too big. An 8 carat ring is a ridiculous ring. And this was pre. All the fake diamonds.

[Buck Sexton]

Right.

[Clay Travis]

Like the diamond industry has collapsed.

[Buck Sexton]

Hold on a second. They're not fake diamonds you're talking about necessarily. There are such things as fake diamonds. You're talking about lab diamonds.

[Clay Travis]

Correct.

[Buck Sexton]

And I know some people in the jewel business and they're real diamonds. They're just made under laboratory conditions.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

Much less expensive. Basically natural diamonds. And no one's hands get chopped off in and in Africa by the warlords who are trying to mine them. You know the blood diamond stuff.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. No, it's basically destroyed the diamond industry because they're able to produce these synthetic diamonds, I think is the technical term that instead of fake, that people to a large extent can't tell the difference between lab. I believe lab diamond is synthetic. That a right word too. I don't know. By the way, that's probably accurate.

[Buck Sexton]

But I'm just saying that they're usually lab diamonds.

[Clay Travis]

Lab grown diamonds.

[Buck Sexton]

I think I remember this from when I was buying Carrie her engagement ring and people were. I did not go lab. I probably should have gone lab because that was. I told her this. The most expensive thing I ever bought in my life ever, because I didn't own a home was. Was my wife's engagement room.

[Clay Travis]

Well, this is also where you didn't get married till after you already made money. See, I didn't have any money, I don't think. By the way, Kobe's ring was valued at $4 million 20 years ago. So this is probably close to a $10 million ring in Modern. You know, the way that Biden inflation has gone. I didn't have much money when I got engaged. In fact, I think I had. I certainly had a negative. Next. A negative net worth when I got engaged. So it was a lot of money to me, but it wasn't a lot of money in the larger context. You, on the other hand, you get married, you're already. You had. You had a. You had to produce a good ring because you got real money now.

[Buck Sexton]

So they do this thing of three months of that salary.

[Clay Travis]

That's crazy.

[Buck Sexton]

Which is insane. But Guys. All right, I'm gonna tell you something, right? For all the guys. We don't have a lot of unmarried guys listening who are still wanting to get married. We have. We have some. But, you know, I think a lot. We.

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[Clay Travis]

Right. I think that's true.

[Buck Sexton]

We don't have a lot of guys in their 20s and 30s in particular who are, like, looking to get married. But for Any of you out there would tell you a few things. Do not go into debt for. For diamonds, for vacations, or for anything that.

[Clay Travis]

That.

[Buck Sexton]

That, you know.

[Clay Travis]

How about weddings? Do not go in debt for weddings or rings.

[Buck Sexton]

This is the next thing I was going to say, right? Because you. You brought up, like, yeah, I'd already had. I'd achieved a, you know, a little bit of professional success when Carrie and I got married. And. And we. I mean, I'll tell you, like, our. Our wedding cost less than. It basically costs, like the national average, but we're doing it in New York City, and Miami beach cost less than a third of what the average wedding would cost. Because I don't understand, you know, in those places because, you know, why are people spending all this money on this stuff? I think this is crazy, the pressure you get. You know, you shouldn't have to get Napoleon's Empress Josephine crown jewels for a lady to love you. You know what I mean?

[Clay Travis]

This is.

[Buck Sexton]

Come on, now.

[Clay Travis]

No, it's totally true. Look, I would tell everybody out there, and I know there's a lot of dads and moms nodding along right now. I would. I would encourage you have way less of a wedding, way less of a ring, and use money to try and buy a place, like somewhere to live for you. Put that into the house fund instead. I'm going to tell my kids this. I don't even know what the rules are now. I've got three boys.

[Buck Sexton]

It used to be that you're not paying for any wedding.

[Clay Travis]

By the way, technically, I'm paying for all the weddings. I bet that's probably true. That's probably. I'm going to end up paying for a lot of the weddings, but I'm telling my boys, hey, you should.

[Buck Sexton]

They're going to go to your new house and 30A and be like, you know what, Clay? I'm going to let you. I'm the father of the bride here, but I'm going to let you pay for the wedding, buddy.

[Clay Travis]

I think.

[Buck Sexton]

I think I can see Mexico from here. Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

I think, Yeah, I think you can almost see Mexico. You get up there pretty high. You know what I've learned, Buck? Rooftop pool there. The bugs don't get that high. It's a problem. I didn't know. Like, the. The bugs get in the pool when you're down low. The higher up in the sky you go. The bugs. Bugs don't fly that high. But it's something that I've learned. There's no bugs in the pool. The high. Like if you got a high level pool, there's no bugs. It's like everything gets better, but I'm going to end up paying. But I'm going to tell my kids now. I've already talked to them, hey, weddings are great. It's fun to celebrate them. But I will. I would rather help give you the money that I would spend on the wedding to be a part of your house fund, which actually benefits you and is a good investment. Then just throw a crazy extravagant wedding, which, by the way, just to be fair, a lot of weddings don't last. A lot of marriages don't last that long.

[Buck Sexton]

All right, well, let's just not get too.

[Clay Travis]

Imagine if you were a dad and a mom and you spent 100k on a wedding, and 2 years later your kids are getting divorced. I would want a refund on my 100k. I was.

[Buck Sexton]

I was one to a. I was a plus one to a very extravagant wedding in Long island that lasted. They like, they were married six months. So I've.

[Clay Travis]

What do you think the wedding cost?

[Buck Sexton]

300 grand, probably.

[Clay Travis]

So. I mean, this is insane. Imagine that you. And not even for the people who throw it on. I think you should have to return the gifts and get your money back. You only last six months. I mean, whatever wedding register you got, like, why. Why should you not get your money back on the gift, too?

[Buck Sexton]

But I'll just tell you, for all the. For the guys out there, if you. If you give the ring and you get any sense or, you know, you say, will you marry me? You get any sense that the ring itself is some kind of issue and. Or, yeah, you need here via the grapevine that like the, like the answer is a yes, but the ring is disappointing. Don't do it, boys.

[Clay Travis]

You need to do it.

[Buck Sexton]

Run. It's not good.

[Clay Travis]

You need to run. Really?

[Buck Sexton]

Yep. You need to know. You need to know. I wonder if some of the ladies are going to weigh in on this one. They know. They know. We've. We've got. We got a lot of wise ladies who Listen in here and they know.

[Clay Travis]

I feel the same way on the ring. Would you rather have an expensive ring or a husband who is going to be thinking about the long range future here and he's trying to think of a place to buy. He wants to start a house fund. I've said this before, I do think it's funny. I. For girls out there, if you got daughters, if you got granddaughters, knowing a guy's credit rating I think is almost more valuable than anything else. I'm talking about if you're getting married to a guy who's 28 or 32 or 34, you know, in that range, does he have a decent credit rating? That's where I. That's what I would want to know. The job matters. But also is he capable of understanding basic finance such that his credit rating is. Is going to be able to help get you a mortgage? That's what I'd want to know. If I was a chick, I'd be like, okay, it's great. You know, you're six foot, you got a decent salad. What's your credit rating?

[Buck Sexton]

Clay is what we would call a hopeless romantic. So there you go. He's like, hey, baby, what's your credit rating?

[Clay Travis]

I want to know. I want to know.

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[Clay Travis]

Love this, I love this advice. I mean if you got rational kids that are getting married out there, if you're the kid that is listening to us right now, who is going to get married one day. Financial issues going to sound like an old man now. Often derail marriages more than almost anything, right? Couples fight over money. There's very strong chance that you and your spouse may have different standards of expenses or understanding of how money should be allocated. And so starting off with something that is a common goal, being able to build a home and not starting off in debt. My goodness. I just the choices that people make. Can you imagine Buck getting married and owing 50k to help pay off your wedding.

[Buck Sexton]

I would. Not worth it. Guys, we're here, we're here to help you out with this. Not worth it. You'd have a night. My. My actual wedding, we had 25 people. Yeah, my actual wedding, we had 25 people. Basically. I think that was the number. Carrie might correct me, she would know better than. It was something like that. And we loved it.

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[Clay Travis]

So, you know, I was in the.

[Buck Sexton]

Church, it was our families and that was it. And that was all we needed. Now we threw a big party. But when you're just throwing a party without all the wedding stuff, you know, Clay, you came to that. Yeah, that's. We had 180 people at a party, but the expense wasn't that much because it was. It was a three hour party.

[Clay Travis]

That's right.

[Buck Sexton]

It's not. The thing with weddings is you get into all this other stuff and it gets all.

[Clay Travis]

Well, they also, they play up on everybody's insecurity by saying, you could choose not to do this, but most people do, you know, and look, if you are fortunate enough to have the money as a dad or mom and you want to throw a big party, that's fine. You can spend money however you want. Exactly.

[Buck Sexton]

Anyone who has the money to burn. We're not telling you what to do with that. I'm just saying it's not worth it to go into debt, which people do, which is bonkers. It's like going into debt for a vacation. How do you enjoy your vacation when you're running up a $20,000 credit card debt on it? It's nuts.

[Clay Travis]

It's nuts. And again, I would echo what Buck said. If the girl is going to be upset about the size of the ring, you need to run in other direction.

[Buck Sexton]

Not going to get. It's not going to get better, guys. It's not going to get better.

[Clay Travis]

And by the way, maybe you end up having success in life and you want to give your wife a bigger ring somewhere down as a testament to the success you've had together. I think that's a cool idea.

[Buck Sexton]

But I have a deal with Carrie because, you know, she quit her job to take care of Speed and to, you know, run the household. I can get her gifts and things for Christmas. Like, you know, things like a little jewelry and stuff like that. But she's like, well, if I get you a gift, isn't it just with your money? And I'm like, yes, that's why don't do it. Just keep being a great wife. And I mean it. You know, don't, don't get me a Rolex. I don't need a Rolex. I don't even want to wear a fancy watch. I'm fine.

[Clay Travis]

I only shop at Costco, so I don't even know what I'd want.

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