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Donald Trump
Paid for by Built For America welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show podcast. Welcome in Tuesday Edition. It's a hot one across much of the country as summer has arrived. The heat and the temperature hopefully getting dialed down in the Middle east as Trump, we hope, is going to be able to maintain a ceasefire. It is primary day in New York City and New York City may be poised to elect the most left wing crazy man in the history of the city. We will break all of that down for you. We're going to talk about the big beautiful bill. Senator Rick Scott of Florida will join us at the bottom of this hour. Trump wants this done by July 4th. Will that occur or not? We will discuss Trump on his way to a, I think a NATO meeting in Europe. It's hard to keep track of all the different UN One of the things overseas headed that way. We will discuss that and more. But we begin with the Iran and Israel ceasefire, which appears to be tenuously holding even though both Iran and Israel violated it in the immediate early parts of the of the process of the cease fire being put in place. Trump has gotten very involved. As we told you yesterday, everyone who told you that this was going to lead to World War 3, you should question a lot of their decisions and a lot of their suggestions more going forward because it did not. And even Iran's response yesterday as we discussed it live with all of you, was telegraphed and had zero impact. And it appears that the Iranian and American relationship, at least on some level, is now back to an even playing field with the ability of the United States to have wreaked havoc on Iran's long term plans to be able to gain nuclear weapons at no essential cost to us at all, not one single life, virtually no casualties to speak of to any degree so far. But the ceasefire is right now underway and we will get the latest as we progress throughout the course of the program to see whether or not it holds. But I did think this was interesting this morning as he was leaving for the NATO event, Trump sounded like a dad who is just really frustrated because his kids won't stop fighting. If you are a parent, maybe you're on summer vacation right now, maybe you are driving around. The kids want to know when they're going to get there. They're hitting each other in the back. They won't keep their hands to themselves. This was Trump saying, they've been fighting so long they don't even know what they're doing.
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Unknown
Cut one I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, okay, now you have 12 hours you don't go out in the first hour and just drop everything you have on them. So I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with Iran either. But I'm really unhappy if Israel is going out this morning, because the one rocket that didn't land, that was shot, perhaps by mistake, that didn't land. I'm not happy about that. You know what we have? We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the they're doing. Do you understand that?
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Donald Trump
I understand it. I'm a dad. I imagine a lot of dads and moms understand it. Buck. President Trump, the dad of the world, just finally seems like he's fed up at the whole process. I thought that was very funny. By the way, that's this morning as he was preparing to embark on his trip for NATO.
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Clay Travis
The 12 day war seems to be over, and that is a remarkable achievement given the degradation of Iranian military facilities and their nuclear program. Most importantly of all. And the warnings of calamity were just that. I mean, they were preposterous, they were overwrought, they were absurd. So that is where we are right now. I understand people are concerned that the ceasefire may not hold, and there could be things that happen that we don't anticipate. The Rumsfeldian unknown. Unknowns are always something to. Well, you can't be prepared for them. But you just gotta know that stuff happens. And I understand Trump having a bit of frustration as well. I also think that people appreciate at this stage that Trump is just a guy who talks like guys talk and says things the way that people in a similar circumstance would and doesn't put on this show, this facade. You know, he's speaking off the cuff to reporters. Right. It's not an address to Congress, to a joint session of Congress. So he's letting it fly a little bit. But I think it's also Trump's telling both sides, hey, you know, I expect, you know, he's like the referee in the middle of the ring with two boxers, and he's like, no low blows. All right, we're ending this thing now. The match is over. Don't go over there and hit the other guy when he's not looking in his corner. So that's the way Trump operates. Very straightforward, very right to the point. Now we see what the next steps will be with the regime in Tehran. I think the plan here, Clay, people have been so concerned about regime change coming from Trump or the Israelis. I think they're going to try to negotiate with a defanged Iran, say, all right, so you guys tried the whole we're tough guys thing. Iran, you tried. That didn't work out well for you. What do you want now? How do you want to play the game now? You know, you see, I understand the Taliban's in charge of Afghanistan, and that's very disappointing, especially after 20 years of war. But I do think that the Taliban knows you guys start providing training camps for Al Qaeda or doing something like that, and we're just going to lay waste to everything. Yeah, we're not. We're not going to be worried. You know, Geneva Convention. Good luck. Good luck crying about that one. We're just going to go in hard and heavy with everything we got. I think the Iranians have been sent a very clear message as well. The days of us being worried, or certainly the days of the Israelis being worried about how this plays on CNN are gone. So how do you want things to go from here on out in the Middle East? Strong horse, weak horse. Right. People want to go with a strong horse. They respect strength. That's really the only thing that Middle east regimes respect, to be honest with you. And we've seen that all throughout history. And I think that now we know, and Trump wants them all to know, this is the state of play now. Let's move toward a more sane future. And it's clay that the trends in the Middle east right now are more positive for a sustained and durable security than they have been in my life. I think. I don't. I don't know of another time where there's at least the possibility that doesn't mean the reality, that doesn't mean the certainty. But the trends are moving all in the right direction right now for the.
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Donald Trump
Good guys, no doubt. And I think this has to be seen as a profound win for Trump. Now, the question that I have, you kind of hit at it. What is the ordinary Iranian thinking? What are they seeing? What is their access to the last 12 days of what's taken place? Because they have been sold a profound lie. It was that after 46 years in power, that the ayatollahs had built a world where there was the ability of Iran to challenge Israel and the United States on some sort of global battlefield. That is not true. It is not remotely true. It took about one day for Israel, which has one tenth the population and a fraction of the of the overall landmass of, of Iran, to completely wipe out all Iranian defenses. And even haphazardly firing as they were from Iran. I believe the math was buck 95% of all Iranian missiles that they fired into Iran, into Israel were shot down. So I mean, it is a case that Israel was able to protect itself thanks to both its technology and American technology, because Iranian attacks were not targeted, they were not precise, they were attempting to inflict as many casualties as they could, whereas Israel has the technology to, as you said yesterday, hit a single floor in a single apartment building and not even harm anybody else in any other parts of the apartment building. That's how precise and targeted their hits were. And honestly, Iran is basically defenseless. And I wonder whether the Iranian people are privy to this knowledge and what their thoughts are as they are walking around waking up in their country in the midst of this ceasefire.
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Clay Travis
I'll make if now I'm not some bright eyed idealist when it comes to foreign policy, specifically in the Middle east. And having seen with my own eyes over many months in Iraq and many months in Afghanistan during wars, how messy things can get, I am not somebody who's sitting here, you know, this is not the early days of the Bush administration when the flowering of democracy is going to just spread across. As we all know, that's not what happened. Right. But I would say this, if you want a case for optimism here, then the first thing is the guns fall silent, so to speak. The ceasefire holds. Okay, so now you're talking about in Iran that I keep saying defanged, however you want to put it, is less of an external military threat. Both not just because of the nuclear, nuclear program, which has been set back a long time. I know people are now saying, oh, but what if they move some of the, you know, enriched uranium, okay. But also because of the destruction of the ballistic, mobile ballistic missile launchers and the recognition that Israel knows where everything is. Essentially. The Israelis had this whole country mapped out. And that's why I think in the opening hours, I mean this was a true shock and awe campaign, but a targeted one it wasn't. We're going to level your cities and then you'll wake up the next day and maybe you'll want to play ball with us. It was, we'll take out all of your military infrastructure. That's critical. We'll do it with the precision of a surgeon and then we can have a talk and your own people will see that we're not, we're not leveling apartment buildings. We're not being reckless about this. We are targeting you militarily because we are better than you. Militarily that is what the Israelis showed beyond any doubt. So, okay, that's the first component of this. The next stage is what happens now? What does Trump want, other than Trump telling the kids, behave yourselves in a very Trump way. No, you shouldn't. You shouldn't use salty language in front of the kids like Trump did. But that's, you know, he's talking to adults. But other than getting them to abide by the ceasefire, the case for optimism, I think, in Iran, Clay, that's realistic, is that now, remember, they have elections now. I know they're not free and fair elections, but, you know, they have some process in place. They have this Massoud possection, rather, who is the president. They have something where now they can't, I think, rely on the external threat of Israel to be the constant excuse for why their currency sucks. And they can't, you know, the quality of life is so low, maybe for their own internal stability reasons. So out of pure self interest and cynicism, the Ayatollah and the Iranian regime will say, all right, we will tone it down for a bit. We will try to get maximum oil flow going, and we'll. We'll rebuild. I don't think ideologically they've changed. They still hate the Israelis, I get it. But they might be in a period here of contraction where they quiet down for a while. I think that's a reasonable case for optimism for what the Middle east looks like. I do not see a Tahrir Square, Egypt 2012, or whenever that was moment here. I don't see that happening. But you never know. They didn't see that happening in Egypt till it did.
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Donald Trump
I would love if they could turn the Internet on Elon Musk through Starlink and keep it on for the Iranian people, because I don't think it's just seeing how people in Israel live or how people in the United States live. I think the embarrassment of seeing Saudi Arabia and Qatar and Bahrain and the uae, which were seen as inferior countries to Iran for most of world history, surpassing Iran in a major way, is a big part of this story. I also think you have to give President Trump a tremendous amount of credit here for leading with commerce. The way that he has connected with the people, the Arab leaders of the Middle east is primarily through economics and saying, hey, let's invest and build together. They respect Trump's business acumen because they are trying to expand beyond the good gift that they have of oil in their region. But they understand that in these smarter countries with better leadership, oil is not Going to create tremendous long term multigenerational, hundreds of years of return because at some point it's going to run out and they have to have something else that their economy can be based on. And Iran has not been able to take that next step. And I think it's because they've gotten bogged down in the purity test of the religious clerics. And I wonder how many people who are Iranian are looking around and saying this is an embarrassment to us that other countries in our region, it's one thing if Israel and the United States are bigger and better, but other Arab countries, Arab Muslim countries, I think it's a humiliation to them.
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Clay Travis
Well, there's an embarrassment here that the Iranian nation state has suffered that it is so militarily, you know, you know, putting this in guy terms, if, you know, if you're so much stronger and bigger than somebody and you get into like a bar fight situation and you slap them instead of punch them, it's kind of worse in a way. You know, it's because, because if you punch like you're so, you know, if you punch them, you may really do a lot of harm. So you might slap. If you have a guy slaps another.
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Donald Trump
Guy, in some ways it's worse disrespect that he's not even afraid of you being able to punch him back. It's not trying to knock you out. He's just like, you're a little bit. Going to slap you in the face. That's basically what you say it.
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Clay Travis
If I, if I. Yeah. So that's, and that's kind of what the Israeli military has done to the Iranian military here. They're like, we're not, we don't even have to, we can just dismantle you and we don't have to worry about causing a lot of collateral damage or civilian casualties because we are so much, we are so superior to you militarily. Yes, that's a, that's, you know, the Iranians have a national pride. Even though they're, they have problems with their regime, they had a national pride and they're now effectively gone nuclear program and their military capabilities. What we see is that, you know, whoever's got the best, the best missiles, drones, radar comms, planes, etc. Is in a whole different league. And so there's going to be more internal pressure, I think, just more of a sense when inside the country. Why are these clowns in charge again?
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Donald Trump
Yeah, they're not. That's the question.
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Clay Travis
They're not even, they can't even defend us. They can't even defend their most precious asset, which was the nuclear program. So why are they there now? I don't know if that turns into overthrow or not. I think you know that one thing that these regimes are very good at is preventing overthrow. Because that's what they are obsessed with, right? That's the thing they care about more than anything else. But I do think that it means the Iranians are going to probably play within the sandbox, so to speak, a little more nicely, no doubt.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. As we were saying, President Trump a little unhappy with the initial hours of his declared ceasefire in the what some are calling 12 Day War. This is cut to. He's talking to Israel and Iran. He's like, you guys, you know, bigly need to chill play too.
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Unknown
I'm not happy that Israel's going out. Now. There was one rocket that I guess was fired overboard. It was after the time limit and it missed its target and now Israel's going out. These guys gotta calm down. Ridiculous.
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Clay Travis
Only Trump talks about.
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Donald Trump
I just, it is like when you.
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Clay Travis
Have separating two guys over a poker.
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Donald Trump
Game when you have multiple kids. Buck, he just sounds like a dad on a summer vacation trip that's just over it. Like, you guys sit down in the back.
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Clay Travis
Don't make me pull this car over.
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Donald Trump
Made me pull this car out. I mean it is just Trump as dad, like just in disbelief. Why this is one of those things like just don't touch him. You know, like this is it. When you're a parent, eventually they're in the back like, listen to me, do not touch him.
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Unknown
Just don't touch him.
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Donald Trump
I don't understand why this is such a hard thing to do, pinching like all these things. He just sounds like a dad who's just fed up on a car trip. And by the way, there may be some dads fed up on car trips listening to us right now. In fact, I bet there are. I want to tell you, if you're fed up with your overall healthcare, which a lot of people are, then why don't you get hooked up right now with Ease for Everyone. This is a major difference. Affordable care for as low as 262 bucks a month. You can keep your doctor, never pay a deductible. Access over 400 prescription drugs for free. Go online to their website, see what plan is right for you and your family and you can save a bundle of in the process. Ease for Everyone developed by forward thinking individuals in my hometown of Nashville. You can check it out for yourself online, see what you could be able to save as well. At ease forever.comclay to join today. That's ease forever.comclay ease forever.comclay. we are joined now by Senator Rick Scott, who is working on the big beautiful bill, which Trump would like to have signed by July 4th. So we'll get to that in a sec. But first, Senator Scott, what have you thought of President Trump's diplomacy in the Middle east and how this has all played itself out so far?
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Senator Rick Scott
Well, I was with the president when he announced the cease fire yesterday, and he was, of course, very happy. Look, I'm proud of the decision he made that a lot of people probably would have a very difficult time making. But it's going to preserve our safety and the safety of people throughout, not just in Israel, but throughout the Middle East. So the decision he made to stop the nuclear weapons in Iran was a big deal. And then the work, that work to get the ceasefire happening, it's, if you look at what this guy has done, I mean, you know, people up here, they always say, oh, he wants, you know, he wants to go to war. This is the last person that wants to go to war. He doesn't like war. He wants peace. He doesn't want, he doesn't want anybody, you know, killed. Now, he does know his job is to defend our freedom and defend the safety of American citizens. But I'm very proud of him and I hope this, this is fireworks and Iran's got an opportunity now. They can decide to be a normal country or they can continue to be a country.
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Clay Travis
Senator Scott, can we get you to, can we get you to call back on a, we got to try the cell connection here again in a second because I, Clay, I don't, I can't pick up about half of what he's saying there.
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Donald Trump
Yeah, he's breaking it now. Let's get him, let's get him back. But what he's talking about is he says he was with President Trump for the, the announcement of the ceasefire yesterday. And when we get him back in, we will ask him about the decision and the timeframe of the so called big beautiful bill, which is the crown jewel of the Trump legislative plan.
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Clay Travis
I do think a point here, Clay, is that the fact that Trump is in a position, knowing what he knows, and a lot of conversations clearly with our allies in Israel about how things are going, that Israel was able to degrade Iranian nuclear and conventional military capacity. So much is just indicative of, of how fast these operations were able to achieve the success that they needed. Senator Scott, thanks for calling back. What is next, do you think, though? So if the ceasefire holds, what are the administration's hope for next steps and what are the priorities so we can get to a more peaceful and stable Middle East.
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Senator Rick Scott
Well, I think we've got to continue to do what President Trump did his first term is just continue to build relationships with all the countries to say, look, let's all get along. Let's all figure out how do we all build our economies. Let's make sure that we all respect the sovereignty of Israel and let's build our economies which helps all of our citizens. And so the Abraham Accords were a big deal and we need to expand them. But look, I think all of us hope for peace. All of us hope, you know, we want peace in Iran and everywhere. Who wants to go to war? I mean, I've got, you know, I served in military. I didn't, you know, I didn't. I had zero interest in going to war. I know I wanted to defend the freedom of this country. So hopefully that's what's going to happen. It's up to Iran, though. It's, it's, you know, if you look around the world, around the world, who are the destabilizing groups? Well, in Latin America, it's Cuba. In the Middle east, it's Iran. In Asia, it's China and North Korea. And then in the Europe area, it's Russia. I mean, I don't know why they want to, you know, to cause havoc and people dying. I mean, we all have children or grandchildren and why do they want the people, people's lives at risk? I just don't get it. But they do.
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Donald Trump
Let's go into the decision being made on the big beautiful bill. So Trump, and you just said you were with him yesterday. I'm sure you got the absolute latest as, as this process plays itself out, wants this to be done by July 4th. Senator John Thune, I believe, has said that he's not going to allow anybody to leave and go on their July 4th break until this is passed. What's the timeframe? Are you optimistic the Senate is going to deliver a bill before we get to the July 4th holiday?
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Senator Rick Scott
I'm very optimistic that we'll get there. Now, we're not there yet. We have to do, and we should, and I believe in the Trump agenda, so we ought to be doing those things. The other thing President Trump wants is he wants a balanced budget. We just passed $37 trillion worth of debt. $37 trillion. So we've got to figure out how to get our spending under control. We've had a 53% increase in spending since COVID started. And the House bill cut less than 2% of it. So we still have a lot of work to do in the Senate. So that's what we're working on. We're working hard to find other ways to save money, because ultimately every American taxpayer is going to pay for this fiscal insanity. Let me give you something to think about. So if we were, we're running around $2 trillion deficits, right? So if we said everybody's just going to pay their, you know, everybody, all the taxpayers, you pay your share to cover that deficit. Just for this year, not the debt. 37 trillion. How much of a tax increase would the American public see? What's your guess?
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Donald Trump
Oh, I mean, in order to pay our share, I mean, if it's $37 trillion and we have roughly 300.
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Senator Rick Scott
No, just the deficit.
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Donald Trump
Oh, just the deficit.
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Senator Rick Scott
Just. Just this. Just not the 37. Trade.
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Clay Travis
20.
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Donald Trump
25% more.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Senator Rick Scott
80.
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Clay Travis
What?
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Senator Rick Scott
80% more.
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Clay Travis
Okay, that's not good.
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Senator Rick Scott
Another number. You know how they always say, how they say, oh, just tax the rich. You know, just tax the rich. Okay, so what if we took the income of the rich and we said, at what level could we stop. We take 100% of their income. Could we stop at 10 people that make $10 billion a year or $10 million a year, or $1 million a year? Where would, where would we stop it?
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Donald Trump
Have to be like 95%, take all their income?
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Senator Rick Scott
What's your guess?
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Donald Trump
Yeah, it had to be like 95%. It's a crazy stat because the top 1% pay something like 40% of taxes already. I mean, it's crazy.
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Senator Rick Scott
It's 100,000.
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Donald Trump
Yeah.
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Senator Rick Scott
It would take 100% of the income of individual filers that make 100,000. Our joint filers make 180,000. 100% our corporations, and they say change, charge our corporations more. Our corporations don't make $2 trillion a year.
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Clay Travis
This is, this is where I'm reminded, Senator Scott, that. And this is true. This is a New York Post and New York Times figure that I've seen before. The average New York City public school janitor makes over $100,000 a year. Yeah, it's about 105, 110 grand. So for anyone who thinks that tax the rich is good to actually deal with that, as you're pointing out, it's just people who work, and you have to take all of their money, all of the money of people who work and so all of their income. But then what do we do? I start to get a little frustrated here, Senator Scott, because everyone gets all we've got to do something about the spending. But then we can't do anything about the spending now. And we really can't do anything about the spending that's automatic in the future either, because people get upset. So then we don't want to do anything about the spending. It feels like we just go in this circle all the time. You ran a big business. You're a very successful guy in the private sector. How do we actually fix it?
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Senator Rick Scott
I'm probably the only guy in the sense done this. I became a governor in a budget deficit. And guess what? We reduced spending and we balanced the budget. We did it every year. You know how you do it exactly the way you did it? You look at, say, how much is my income? I'm not going to spend more than that. I will never vote for a tax increase. I cut taxes over 100 times, and guess what happened? I built the economy that allowed us have record spending for the things we care about. So what we've got to do is say to ourselves, step one, we've got to get back to normal spending. You know, we're past Covid. I mean, we've increased it 53% in five years.
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Clay Travis
But where is all that money going, Senator? Like, this is what I keep looking at this saying, hold on. You know, here's a stat that I think is jaw dropping to give a sense of just how much waste there can be. New York City Senator, because we're gonna be talking about the mayor's race in a second, in the last 10 years, has increased its budget, its spending 35%. And my family lives there, and I was living there until a couple years ago. My point is that all services have gotten worse. Every quality of life metric has gotten worse, but the budget's 30% more. So the federal government, where is all this money going that we were spending on Covid? Is it all just going to like Medicaid programs, which are just massive welfare?
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Senator Rick Scott
It's everything. And so everybody says, oh, it's Medicare and Social Security. No, it's not. If you took Clinton's budget, his last budget was balanced, and you raised it based on population, raised it based on inflation, okay? And then we said, that's what we're spend, we'd have a balanced budget. It's everything. Everything has increased. And there's no accountability. There's no accountability. So this is all fixable. But guess what? When I was governor of Florida, there's 4,000 lines of the budget. I could read every line in the budget if I asked for it here. We don't do budgets. We do spending bills. So I could look at spending bills. So I say if I wanted to say, give me all, you know, 6,000 lines of the federal budget budget, it's impossible. So how do you ever do it? And then the other thing that people say, well, I don't, I don't want to do it. So what they're telling you when people say they don't want to balance a budget, there's the other thing they're saying to you is I don't care that your taxes go up. They're saying they don't care that inflation's going to get worse. They don't care that interest rates are going to go up. Senator, that's what they're saying to you.
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Donald Trump
Yeah, look, all of this is true and you know better than anybody. I mean, you actually have, you know, basic economic common sense, which is something you can't say for most senators and congressmen and women, unfortunately. But it's also, look, the difference between a two and a half percent interest rate on a mortgage and a 7. It's completely flummoxed to the entire housing market, frozen it so many different ways. But to build on what, what you were saying when you were governor of Florida, I imagine Florida has a balanced budget requirement, as basically every state does, that is the state can't go into debt like the federal government can.
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Senator Rick Scott
They do. They do. Here's it. So here's Florida had, had added it to its debt every year for 20 years, over a billion dollars. So, yeah, these states that have a balanced budget amendment, they just borrow. There's very few states, I paid off a third of state debt, all right, when I was governor, but very few states have no debt. They borrow money. So when they say they balance the budget, they borrow money and then they, then, you know, their pension plans underfunded and blah, blah, blah. So we have overspent at every level of government, local government, state government, federal government. And the numbers are staggering, the increases in the last 10 years. And so this is going to come home to hurt us. I mean, look, we have a president that's trying to build the best economy in the world. I mean, we got a hot country from the place somebody wants to invest. But if we don't get our fiscal house in order, then what's going to happen to interest rate? What's going to happen? Inflation? And what's going to be left of the revenues we do collect when we're paying now over a trillion dollars in interest out of we're going to collect without the tariff money. We're going to collect probably five and a half trillion dollars. We're spending over a trillion dollars now just in interest expense.
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Clay Travis
That seems like a problem. Yeah.
- [38:17]
Senator Rick Scott
So hopefully I believe we're gonna get a bill done, but we've got a lot of work to do to get our fiscal house in order. I know the president's committed to it. I'm committed to doing everything I can to help this president.
- [38:29]
Clay Travis
When is this bill gonna get done? In your mind, when are we actually gonna have a big, beautiful bill to celebrate?
- [38:34]
Senator Rick Scott
It'll be sometime before the 4th. I mean, people are gonna get.
- [38:36]
Clay Travis
Okay.
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Senator Rick Scott
You know, we, the anticipation was that we were gonna finish and go on a week recess over. So every day we're here past Thursday, it's going to put a lot of pressure on people to finally make a decision of what we're going to do. But there's a lot of work left to do. They've got to go through this process to see if we can even put in the bill, which called bird bath. So we're still having some of that stuff today. So. But I'm optimistic. We'll, you know, I don't know what day will get done. I'm, of course, I'm staying here to get it done.
- [39:05]
Clay Travis
All right. Senator Rick Scott, thank you so much. Appreciate you being with us.
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Senator Rick Scott
All right, take care. Have a good day. Bye. Bye.
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Clay Travis
You know, there's this crazy election in New York, which I know only some.
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Donald Trump
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Clay Travis
We got a big W O R audience. We love all of you. A special place in my heart for all of you because I used to tell you sanity during the pandemic. In particular, you know, when I was doing all that radio from New York City and you know, it was me and, and my Staten island brothers and sisters and then people from North Jersey and Westchester and a lot of you. Nassau County. A lot of Nassau county in the house. Anyway, they don't have to worry about the. Well, Nassau county doesn't have to worry about the mayor of New York City. But Clay, I do think it's an interesting harbinger of the Democrat party and the AOCs way to this is kind of the micro to the macro if you will because I know it's just one city but you've got AOC and Bernie Sanders and national figures pushing for a more left wing Democrat party right now. And the most left wing mayor of the biggest city in America may actually happen right now when we're looking around saying the Democrats are completely insane. So this is something that's underway. We got Edward from New York City actually a WOR listener with a talk back here. Cc play it.
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Unknown
Hey, Clay and Buck in your reference to dads on car trips being frustrated, listen and you're assuming they're listening to your radio. I gotta tell you, it's always a negotiation in our family. If I want to be listening to you guys, it's always a negotiation. You know, I get a little half hour, then they get a half hour. So just want to let you know there they might be not listening to you as much as you think out there.
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Clay Travis
Well, if we have to compete with Barney the Purple Dinosaur and Paw Patrol, Clay, it can be a tall order.
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Donald Trump
Sometimes I think dad should get or mom whoever is driving should get control of the radio because there's way less you can do. Kids today with the iPads and the portable DVD players or whatever the heck they got. I was blown away with my kids how well they could be in control. They can put their headsets on. They can each go into their own little world. They should not be complaining relative to the drives that many of us used to have to go on. And by the way, a lot of you out there, older, my mom, her generation. Can you imagine long car trips, no air conditioning in the south back in like the 1940s and the 1950s. Now that was brutal. They used to put buckets of ice in the floorboard to cool off.
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Senator Rick Scott
Wow.
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Karen Kilgariff
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