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Welcome to today's edition of the Clay.
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Travis and Buck Sexton show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We are racked and stacked, much to discuss here. Thanks for coming in. Thanks for hanging out. Immigration hearing up on Capitol Hill. Giving some numbers, adding some numbers to.
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Enforcement operations that have been the center of a lot of attention recently with regard to ICE operations in Minneapolis and elsewhere. Customs and Border Patrol Commissioner Rodney Scott Clay, I remember he showed me around years ago when he was working CBP in the San Diego sector. So I got a, I got a whole deep dive into what was going on in San Diego under the first Trump administration. Rather San Diego sector of the border, which I gotta tell you, that's nice duty. Go to the border, then you're up in La Jolla for dinner. It's very nice. Part of the country. San Diego is, I feel like, doesn't get all the credit that it deserves. But you get to be right there on the border with Tijuana and you got a lot of crossings, a lot of stuff going on, a lot of cartel activity other side. As soon as you cross over into America and into south, that part of Southern California, man, that's, it's beautiful. That's really, really nice. I feel like San Diego people are just trying to keep it on the down low so more people don't just pile into it. Cause it's, it's a great spot anyway. I remember hanging out with Rodney there. So we've got, that we've got. I'm surprised you didn't jump in on La Hoya. I feel like that should be the next place for a Travis Castle to be built. You know, La Jolla is really nice.
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I'm gonna be honest with you at California is beautiful. With the way they're taxing people, I don't want to give them any, any entree point to coming after me for taxes at all. And I think owning property there would probably, probably be a tough one to, to, to avoid. Buck. I'm like you, I'm in, I'm in a free state. We got zero state income tax in Tennessee. This I'm never leaving here. You're down in Florida. I spend a decent amount of time in Florida. Also zero income tax. By the way, there's a lot of super rich guys with way more money than we'll ever have that are also looking at this and saying, hey, like.
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That'S gonna be ours. That's going to be I think our top story, we're going to get into this in just a second. So put a, put a pin in this because California, the taxes, the reality, what's happening in America, Major, major moves afoot. We're going to dive into that. I think we also have, do we have Steve Hilton with us today? Gubernatorial candidate?
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Yeah, because I was in California all last week, Buck, and I, I texted you and, and told you in my old man move of reading all the local newspapers in print. The primary is soon. We're going in Texas in early March in San Antonio and Austin and in Houston for the Texas primary. But we are just a couple of months away from the primary in California, which is going to be hugely important and is wide open. There's no, you know, nobody out there who's taken a massive early lead in this.
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We've also got in the just in the hopper today stories. Want to get to a little more on the save act, more on the Epstein files. I think Clay actually has some, some important takes to share on where all of this is going and the way, the way there are elements of the media that are just being so dishonest. Look, if you're looking at who was really involved with Epstein and involved in ways and at periods of time where if not anything criminal, certainly a lot of eyebrows should be raised and a lot of, a lot of stink eye should be given. It's really Democrats pretty much across the board. Something that, and I know people say, oh, why make this partisan? Well, one, it's true. We're observing reality. And two, Clay, they are desperate, they're desperate to try to make this seem like, oh, it's really. And more information came about Trump and his feelings about Epstein. And guess what, Clay, once again, Trump actually is very clearly the good guy in this situation, which we told you all along, ok. There was nothing, there was never a whiff of Trump impropriety whatsoever from anyone who knew him. From anyone. I mean, you know, the guy, yeah, he likes beautiful ladies. He likes ladies, ok. And he was actually willing to call out Epstein's crap before a lot of other people were. So we will, we will get into all of that over the course of the show today. But I actually will bring us back to California in our conversation because as I was saying, you know, I mean, Southern California, California in general is an amazing piece of property. Just as a geographic location, tough to beat. I mean, people could make their case for other places, but in terms of weather, in terms of natural beauty, varied climate, rather varied, you know, ecological, you can go skiing, you can be at the beach, you do all these things. Uh, it's an amazing place. It's been ruined by the libs. Let, let's just get right to this now. It's still a nice place to live. And I understand they're not like giving away houses in Newport Beach. I understand that there's a tremendous amount of wealth and, and the concentration of money there. But Clay, I give you this story in the Wall Street Journal which was getting a lot of attention down here in South Florida yesterday. Billionaire Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg and his wife Priscilla Chan are purchasing a newly completed waterfront mansion on Miami's Indian Creek. The latest California billionaire to buy a home in South Florida. Clay Zuckerberg, Brin Page, Teal Elon, the. Those names and there's probably others I'm not even thinking of right now or you know, other. I mean you look at from Chicago, for example, Ken Griffin. These are among the richest people. And certainly in the case of the names, Elon is the richest. These are the richest people on the planet and they are leaving California across the board to go to. You mentioned tax free states like Florida particularly, but other places as well. Texas certainly comes to mind. Tennessee comes to mind. And California is not going to be able to pay its bills. We've been saying this for years. We've done this show almost five years. Five years in June. California's policies are insane and unsustainable.
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Yes, it is. And this I think is going to end up being the biggest legacy of COVID and, and I don't know how many people out there have really spent a lot of time thinking about it. But the data increasingly is still showing it. People learned that they could live in many different places and still do their jobs just as well because technology had evolved as they could have by staying in the location that they've lived in for a long time. I don't know that big finance guys in New York and Chicago and LA would have risked moving to Arizona and Texas and Florida and Tennessee, but for the fact that Covid happened, there was no point in going into the offices. And then they suddenly realized, wait a minute, we can communicate and be just as effective elsewhere. And what's going to happen here is going to be hugely transformative. All of these people's money suddenly relocates to a low tax jurisdiction. A Florida, Tennessee and a Texas, for example. I'm using it examples but there's lots of other states low tax out there. All of the benefits of their money and of the money that Follows them, then moves to the new state. And the great, huge, huge, expensive albatross of government that has been built on the largest, to a large degree of these multi billionaires doesn't exist anymore. And Buck, I, I think this kind of goes to it, in essence. And this is your life path, too. You've talked about this before. Roughly Florida and New York have similar populations, right? Roughly similar populations.
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Florida's a little bigger, about 2 million more.
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New York has a government that costs over twice as much, a state government that costs over twice as much as Florida. You have lived in both places. Which do you think is the better and more efficient government, Florida or New York?
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I mean, it's, it's, it's preposterous to even speak of them in the same breath in terms of the clay. And it's really things that matter to. Just things like the efficiency of government here. You know, the efficiency of, oh, I got to pay my property taxes, or, oh, I got to go to the DMV or everything. Everything is better managed here across the board. Everything is more sensible now. It's not perfect. And in Miami in particular, it's a whole other thing. We got some issues, but it just. As a state, this is, this place is run under Ron DeSantis. This place is run like there are adults in charge who understand math and also know that they're supposed to serve the people. The sense you get, especially in New York City, is you are like a cow to be milked, that you are not a citizen. You are not there to be provided services by the government. You are the provider of the services with your labor. You are to be worked. You are a very highly paid serf.
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We'll talk with Steve Hilton about this in the third hour. But the tax situation, in particular California saying we're going after the wealthiest, a lot of them have just decided, I'm out. And that money, again, is moving to a state like Florida, to a state like Texas, to a state like Tennessee. The jobs are going to follow. And I just, I, I think these blue states are in for a significant, significant issue because a lot of people are getting fed up and, and the people who have the most resources are the best able to move. And so this is, this is going to be big. Now, we talked about it in the context of 2030, when they redo the census. First of all, they screwed up the 2020 census and undercounted red states. But in the 2030 census, I think that's going to be virtually impossible to ignore. And the political Power is going to move even more to red states, to the south in particular. And this is a story that I don't think Democrats have thought a lot about. You're going to be unable to get elected President of the United States without winning red states. Right. You're going to have to break in, into the south and you're going to have to figure out a way to win southern states. You're going to have to win Arizona, remember in 2030, 2032, which will be the first presidential race after the census of 2030. The pathway of winning Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, the so called blue wall, it doesn't exist anymore. Now Trump won Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin in 2024 and you can argue those states are moving to the red anyway. I mean, I think there's an argument there. But even with that pathway, even if Democrats swept the board there BY Once the 2030 census is put in place, that pathway is not going to exist anymore. So this is going to, this is going to be a big deal and I think it's only going to accelerate. And the, the states like Florida and Texas and Tennessee with zero income tax are going to grow and orders of magnitude and states like Illinois, New York and California are going to hemorrhage the most valuable in terms of taxpayers population out there.
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Well, people also realize, and I learned this very much in New York City, that the first obligation of the people in charge in these blue states, of the political apparatus, the elected officials, but also the bureaucracy, is to make sure that the massive welfare payments continue. That's their first obligation. They'll, you know, they'll cut fire and police before they'll cut giving people free stuff because the people with the free stuff vote for them. Right? And the fire and police and these other things, eh? I mean we don't have to talk about defund the police, which was a blue state madness in particular. But those are, those are widely distributed problems. That makes it worse for everybody. Got to keep the free stuff going. People are getting tired of this man. And I think people are seeing more and more in places like New York and California. You know, there's all these stories play out about in New York City, private schools now for kids, grammar school, Everybody. I'm talking first grade, fifth grade, nursery school, $70,000 a year now you might say that's completely.
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I saw that story, Buck. I actually told Laura about it last night. We were getting ready for bed. There's seven of them, I think it is in New York City or at.
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Least charging and all the others are gonna, they're all gonna start raising their prices too. But you see, the public school system in New York City is trash, unfortunately, unless you can test into an elite school. There's a number of them. The public school system is bad. It is a. You cannot get a good education in a lot of the New York City public school system, by the way. It's not about resources. I've been in some of these schools. They, they have fancy new laptops and blah, blah. Everything's. It's because the teachers spend all the time trying to get the kids to be quiet and pay attention.
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And the parents don't care. And it's daycare. It's daycare for unruly kids. So you're never going to learn anything. My point though, Clay, is how is this sustainable? How are you in these major cities, the cost of living, if you're earning money, if you're not really rich or a dependent on the state, how can you make this work? The answer is you can. The worst is to be somebody making like 200 to 500 grand or 150 to 500 grand in a city which I know for some of you are like, I live in Oklahoma. That's a ton of money. Not a lot of money in New York City. You need to make about twice as much in New York City as you do for other metro areas, excluding a few high priced ones like Miami, la. But this is just not. The math, doesn't math, as they say, Clay. And the math is going to start to really not math for California. They, their budget projection, which is a $3 billion shortfall for the next fiscal year. Well, that takes into account the billionaires continuing to pay a lot on their, you know, on stock that they sell and on their capital gains and all. They can't afford their state budget without Silicon Valley.
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It's. All of this is 100% true. And I think it's going to shift in a hurry. I mean, who was it who said recently Miami's going to replace New York as the new financial capital of the United States? It's an aggressive statement, but as you look, it's very smart.
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I might, I might have said that. I might. No, I'm just kidding. Someone else said it more eminent financial mind. But I agree with you.
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Look at some of these wealthy guys relocating. The jobs and the resources and the assets that surround them are going to follow. I would be in, I would be panicked. If I was New York City, if I was Chicago, if I was California.
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I would think so. All Right. Making plans now for the long term. It's a smart move. It's always the way to approach things, right? Gold, my friends. Gold makes a lot of sense. I've just bought more gold. Look at the price of gold. Up over 60% in the last 12 months. Over the last 20 years though, it's up 700%. And that's just gold. So if you have gold, if you bought gold 20 years ago and held it, you're up 7x and it's not like you're in and out.
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Oh, do I.
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What do I do with my gold? No, you just buy it. You hold it. Because gold is a store of value. It has been for all of human civilization. And look, money, money printing is still happening, still have these concerns. It's not crypto that people are using as the long term store of value. That's pretty obvious. Gold, my friends go with Birch Gold Group. And they can also not just send you gold to your home, which is what I do. They can convert an existing IRA or 401k into an IRA. And gold, no matter how many years you've had that account. Text my name. Buck to 989898 Text B U C K to 989898 get your free info kit on Gold. No obligation. They're just going to inform you. And these people are the best in the game. A plus rating from the Better Business Bureau. Tens of thousands of happy customers. Birch Gold text Buck. Buck to 98. 98 98.
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Updating you on all this different stuff going on. Looking right now, CNN is reporting that NBC is reporting that the FBI is about to release a image of a potential suspect in the Nancy Guthrie case. Uh, now Fox News also reporting that just broke in to report that detail. I know many of you have been following this case closely. We've tried to keep you updated. There has not been much information. Uh, Savannah Guthrie released another video yesterday. Uh, but again, Fox News and CNN both reporting that potentially we are going to get a image of an alleged suspect or person of interest. Maybe better to phrase in this case.
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This has been my, my sense all along. Clay, you're not. The person's not going to get away with this. The big outstanding question is can they just get Nancy Guthrie home safe and sound? That's the, that's the thing. That is the big question mark. This person's not. You're not going to just get your bitcoin and go on some beep somewhere? I don't see that happening.
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Democrat contenders. Who are the contenders? How will that shape the Democrat party in this midterm election year? But also, of course, I'm talking 20, 28 contenders. And among those names, Mr. Clay, there are some that keep popping up again and again. You have Gavin Newsom. You have Pritzker, the governor of Illinois. You have Ocasio Cortez, I think likely a VP contender, but nonetheless would run First Buttigieg. Democrat elites want him. Democrat party does, not the base. So that's not going to fly.
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Black guys are not voting for a gay white guy. It's like nobody will talk about it. His. His hopes are dead.
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His support with the black community is interesting because I think generally, statistically, you tend to at least get like 1%, you know, sort of a margin of error. I see a 0%, 0% for Buttigieg from the polling on Democrat black primary voters. So he's. He's staying steady at zero with that group. And that's going to be very tough to win the nomination if you're at zero. And then you got Governor Shapiro of Pennsylvania. Honestly, I don't see him either being atop the ticket. I think I said Gavin Newsom. A name, though, and this is a name that is in Clay's backyard, a name that continuously pops up. And I will even have people who ask me, because this is, you know, out and around people. Who do you think? Who do you think for 28, who do you think among the Democrats they're going to go for? And I will say, you know, a few different names, and they'll say, well, what about this guy from Kentucky? Couldn't he be the Democrats? Answer, couldn't he be the one? And, you know, Kentucky's a very red state and we love Kentucky. I had a lot of. I have family going back a long way in Kentucky, but you got a bad governor Kentucky. I don't know what to say. You got a Democrat. Somehow this guy keeps winning. Somehow he manages to stay in his position. Andy Beshear, who Clay is more familiar with than me, because it's his. It's the next door. And people will bring him up, Clay, like, oh, this guy, Democrat governor in a very red state. He can thread that needle of like a normal dude, but who's also cares about poor people and free health care and, you know, whatever, right? That. That's. This is the game they want to play. They're going to have a problem and he's going to have a problem. Well, I think for many reasons, but this is one example of it. Here you have Governor Bashir of Kentucky talking about how it was his Christian faith that led him. This was on the View, of course, trying to get some applause here. Christian faith that led him to veto a bill that would have protected children from gender mutilation surgery. Let's hear the coward himself on this one play.
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10 people want to know what drives us, especially in a world with social media where everyone's looking for the next authenticity thing. For me, that's my faith. Most of the decisions I make are based on that golden rule that says we love our neighbor as ourself, and that parable, the Good Samaritan that says everyone is our neighbor. And so when I've taken actions like vetoing the nastiest piece of anti LGBTQ legislation that ever came through my state, I described it in those terms. I said, my faith teaches me that all children are children of God, and I didn't want people picking on those kids.
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He. He voted against trans transgender surgery ending in his state. CL for kids, for kids for minors. I. I think. I think he's. I think this alone not gonna be able to do it. The whole, oh, I'm a blue state guy, or I'm a red state guy, but I have blue state values and you can trust me. And I'm Andy Beshear. That might fool enough people in Kentucky for whatever reason, which is sad. It shouldn't. It's not gonna work nationally, not with stuff like this, buddy.
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Kentucky failed in electing this guy twice candidly. And partly it's because his daddy was a governor and people like a name and they don't pay a lot of attention, but this guy was wrong on everything. Covid. I hate, as somebody who grew up in the South, I really, really hate when somebody tries to use religion as a reason to do true harm to innocent people. And in this situation, make no mistake what he's trying to do, he goes on the View and he says, oh, this is my religion. You know, he syrups up the Southern accent and he says, this is my religion that is teaching me that I should permit, make no mistake what he's saying his religion is teaching him to do. Permit minors to have their genitals chopped off. His version of Christ suggests, because I'm going to go pretty detailed here, that Jesus believes that a 14 year old should have his genitals chopped off or her genitals chopped off because it's the godly thing to do. I'm sorry, that's in it. That should be outrageous to everyone in Kentucky.
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Well, this should be like saying, you know, I'm a Christian, and as a believing Christian, I just. I just really think that, you know, somebody wants to kill themselves. Like, why get in the way? You know, that's their choice. It's like, no, that's the opposite of Christian teaching. You loon. What are you doing?
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I mean, the foundation of Christianity for many people, and I would put this myself in this Category is protecting children. And children who don't know any better than to believe. I mean, this is. I. It is awful, I would imagine, to be 14 years old or 15 years old and be so unhappy in your body that you think you would be happier if your breasts were removed or if your penis were chopped off. I can't even imagine psychologically how awful of a place it is to have a kid there, to be the kid, to be a parent of a kid, and then imagine that when that kid goes into a doctor, instead of saying, hey, you're a minor. Kids get confused. This is. I know. A very dangerous time and a challenging time. Teenage years are for so many people. To hear a medical doctor say, you know what? You're right. We should chop off your boobs. We should chop off your penis. And then to have a governor say, I'm going to veto legislation to stop that from happening, because that's what Jesus would want me to do. It's disgusting. Yeah. And he's trying to argue that that's the authentic him, and that's why you need to trust him. I just find this so nasty and pernicious, and I feel like Kentucky failed because the only reason this guy has a platform is because he got elected twice in a red state that should have never voted for him.
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Well, that's absolutely true, and it really was. I appreciate that you, as the Southerner here on the show, point out that all of a sudden, Andy Beshear is just. He like, my. My faith, my faith tradition, and my Lord Jesus, and starts doing this whole thing so that he can justify something that his Lord Jesus absolutely would not be in favor of. Okay, this is. This is complete.
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You just didn't say chop their penises off. All right, Andy Beshear, if you want to have that debate, I'll have that debate. And this is one of the problems with that language on the View. They don't actually dive into what he said. And I think, by the way, lots of Democrats, Republicans, Independents, are increasingly saying we shouldn't be operating on kids under 18 and sterilizing them for life. Well, I mean, this is one of.
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The most barbaric change. Yeah. The reality is that this is changing very rapidly and that the. The, well, reality is actually now coming to the forefront on this issue, which is these aren't. It's not even like, hey, you know, this is like breast augmentation surgery, which is a cosmetic surgery, and people want to have it for different reasons or whatever. It's not like we should wait on this and then it's your choice and there's some aesthetic, whatever. These surgeries are always a bad idea. This is the thing that actually people are going to start. It does not work. You do not transition genders, you mutilate your own gender. It is irreparable harm and your long term mental health suffers as a result of it. So this is far more like remove my arm because I don't think I should have it. A real psychological condition. By the way, the left always gets so upset when you bring this up because it really is the closest. This is the most analogous thing. Remove my penis, because I think I'm a woman, is actually very close to remove my arm. I think I should be a one armed person. It's actually quite similar. They want to pretend it's not, but it is quite similar. And you medically, ethically will never find a doctor, at least in this country who would say, yeah, I'm going to take, well let's remove your arm or you won't feel a thing. It'll be sterile, it's fine. Won't do that. The surgeries they are doing to these young people and by the way to adults as well are mutilation surgeries that do not work, that do not have the intended effect and that have a tremendous amount of regret from the people who get them after the fact. And the long term mental health outcomes are bad. So this is bad across the board. But just Andy Bashir, just getting back to the politics. Andy Bashir here and it's really, he's like the, he's like the con man who can't run another con. So now he's pretending to be a ten show preacher and he's just with the big grin and the accent and like pulling pennies out of the hands of old ladies. It's just so slimy, man. Oh, I just believe in the golden rule and you know what I mean? Honestly, Honestly. This guy, by the way, no shot, no shot at a national level platform. People always be like, oh, what about Bill Clinton? First of all, Bill Clinton was pretty smart. Unfortunately he was pretty smart. But second, it wasn't that smart, but.
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He was pretty smart.
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But second of all, he never even got more than 50% of the vote. If it wasn't for Ross Perot, he wouldn't have been the guy. This guy has no shot. Bashir, at a national level ticket, I don't see it at all. Maybe as a vp if they can't.
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Find anybody else, I think that's what he's going to run for as vp. And look, I. I think again, the only calling card he has is I got elected in a red state. And I think it's frankly one of the biggest failures that we've seen from red states when it comes to the politicians that they've elected. Because I would give Andy Bashir a pass on the first election because his family name was well known and he probably ran a good campaign. He got everything wrong on Covid. He arrested people who went to church, Buck. And then they realized faith.
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I bet his faith told him that if it comes to practicing your religion, sometimes you just got to listen to Fauci and mask up and lock people up who want to go to church. He is such a scumbag, man. Honestly, I watched this clip like five times and I just, I don't know this guy that well, but I know all I have to know about Andy Bashir after seeing his performance on the View.
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It's just so fake. And again, this is one of the downsides of not having real questions asked. When you say my faith guides you. Okay, so you think Jesus. I mean, because you just ask the next question. Okay, you're a strong Christian. You think Jesus would have been in favor of mutilating children's bodies based on psychological delusions? Because that's what you're arguing your faith leads you to. And I just, I can't imagine that there's. Look, Buck, I think. What do you think is 80, 20? What percentage of people out there think that minors should be able to have gender altering surgeries in a way that removes their body parts?
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By the way, I would add. I would add even into this the giving of hormones and hormone blockers and puberty blockers. You know, it doesn't even have to be as severe. And the surgery, because the surgery is less, they really don't do. As I understand it, it's generally not what they call bottom surgery that they will do for minors. It's.
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But they will do top surgery.
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Top surgery, yes. They'll remove breasts of. We're talking pre 18. So minors, they'll remove breasts for. But they will do the hormone thing and they'll do that quickly. And that's what came up in this lawsuit. That's also horrific. That's not medicine. This is. This is monstrous devastating to your body's development.
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Whatever you think, it's. It creates bone issues. Like in terms of the. The like. Think about how crazy that is. You're gonna give somebody opposite sex hormones when they're 12 or 13 as their bodies are developing and think that it's not going to render huge, huge physical issues in the years ahead.
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They go back, you think about like the East German women in the Olympics, maybe women in quotes, they were rocking some testosterone.
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They had better mustaches than me, Bob.
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They had a better mustache than Clay. I mean they were. And this is not, this is a small amount of, of this hormone that they're putting into their bodies. But it's incredibly powerful. If you do this over a sustained period of time and you're talking about your voice deepening, you're talking about getting more body hair, like real changes for adult women who do this. And it's actually something that even female bodybuilders have to be aware of because if they start messing around with some of that stuff with like androgenic, you know, and basically testosterone, steroids, things like that, they start to look more like dudes. So this idea that you can just give puberty blockers and it's no big deal. It's a huge deal. It's a huge deal.
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And most people imagine whatever the dumbest thing you thought when you were 15, if you are 16, if you had made every decision when you were 15 or 16, would you have wanted that to be your Legacy when you're 25 or 35, that's the situation that people are finding themselves in which is absolutely indefensible. Look, severe weather outages can cause major issues. That's what happened here in Nashville. 230,000 households without power, sometimes for nearly two weeks. Pretty unbelievable. But with rapid radios you can get hooked up right now and make sure that you have a long lasting charge that can allow you to stay in touch with your friends and family. We use these. When the storm was going on, my mother in law lost power for over a week. We were able to continue to communicate with her. She doesn't have great cell phone network where she lives. She moved in with us during the storm. But if you haven't prepared for catastrophe, if you haven't prepared for hurricane, tornado, awful winter storms, ice storms, things such as that, you need to and you can help Prepare yourself with Rapidradios.com check it out. You want to make sure when the world goes quiet you don't communication redefined@rapidradios.com that's rapid radios. Hey Buck, one of my kids called me an unk the other day.
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An unk?
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Yep. Slaying evidently. For not being hip, being an old dude.
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We got a bunch of different stories that are out there. Again, potentially a person of interest photo coming out in the Nancy Guthrie case, Fox News reporting that will be released in the next half hour or less. So we'll see what might be happening there. Uh, we're going to dive into some of the Epstein revelations, including the idea that Trump was one of the people who may have tipped off authorities initially about the Epstein related story and also Howard Lutnick being drawn into it and what that story tells us. But we have a bunch of talkbacks that I wanted to dive into and I'm pulling them up right now to make sure that I have got them in order. We love when you talk back. We also should mention, by the way, that we are now on Sirius XM channel 1 23. That started yesterday. Meant to mention it there, Alex in Minnesota. A Talk back. NFL cares about one thing. The NFL cares about the NFL. The NFL doesn't care about stopping racism or hate or love triumphing over hate. They don't care about the Puerto Ricans. They don't care about the beer guzzling white guy. They don't care about the African Americans or the Asian Americans. They don't care. They only care about one thing and that's the NFL and that's money. That's all they care about. You're talking about it, we're talking about it. That's all they care about. I think that's pretty accurate. Brett in New Jersey. B.
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Episode: Hour 1 - Protecting Kids is Not Anti-Gay
Date: February 10, 2026
Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show (iHeartPodcasts)
In this lively first hour, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton break down the economic and demographic shifts from blue to red states, the impact on national politics, and the social consequences of progressive policies—especially involving children. They touch on billionaires fleeing high-tax states, discuss the broader political landscape ahead of 2028, and passionately dissect Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear's use of faith to justify vetoing a bill banning gender surgeries for minors. Throughout, the hosts use direct language and frequent humor, staying true to their pointed, conversational style.
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Clay and Buck use detailed analysis and strong rhetoric to argue that progressive policies—especially around taxes and child protection—are not only unsustainable but driving fundamental change in the American political and demographic landscape. Their frank approach pulls no punches, especially in their critique of Andy Beshear, and will resonate with listeners concerned about both economic sanity and the wellbeing of children.