Hour 1 - Rush Warned Us

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 1 – Rush Warned Us
Date: October 8, 2025
Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show (iHeartPodcasts)

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Overview

In this episode, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton tackle headline-breaking stories with their signature blend of conservative insight and humor. The main focus centers on the government shutdown's real-world effects, media coverage and implications of the James Comey trial, and a broader conversation about crime, law enforcement, and the hypocrisy of political elites. Archival commentary from Rush Limbaugh on James Comey provides historical context. The episode weaves in real listener voice messages, tongue-in-cheek commentary, and critiques of left-leaning media narratives.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Government Shutdown: D.C. As a Ghost Town

[00:36 – 03:40]

• Buck, reporting from Washington, D.C., shares his firsthand observations:
  • The city is uncrowded, streets are deserted, and traffic is nonexistent due to hundreds of thousands of government workers on furlough.
  • This prompts Buck to question the necessity of such a large federal workforce:

    “What do we need all these government workers for if everything seems fine without them going to their jobs? I think it’s a fair ask… this shutdown, it’s a fantastic time to be in this town.” — Buck Sexton [02:56]

• Buck highlights the separation between essential and non-essential services and implies the shutdown exposes inefficiencies in the federal bureaucracy.

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2. Updates on High-Profile Political Stories

James Comey Indictment and Trial
[05:36 – 14:38; 16:59 – 23:24]

• Breaking News Recap:
  • James Comey, former FBI Director, has pleaded not guilty to two federal charges: lying to Congress and obstruction.
  • The trial is set for January 5 and is moving quickly (Bill Hemmer brief from Fox News at [05:36]).
• Clay and Buck’s Commentary:
  • Both hosts lambast Democratic claims that prosecuting Comey sets a dangerous precedent:

    “The lawfare they have done against Trump and his family alone has done tremendous damage to the public’s faith in all of these different facets of our criminal justice system… now they want to tell us we should be worried about going too far in the other direction. No — they already did this.” — Clay Travis [06:14]

  • Buck underscores the need for accountability:

    “We are not going to just lie down and accept a two-tiered system of justice in this town, Washington, D.C., or anywhere else for that matter. And that is important.” — Buck Sexton [13:42]

  • They predict acquittal due to a favorable Northern Virginia jury, but assert the indictment itself is a needed message to the political establishment.

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3. Rush Limbaugh’s Archival Warnings on James Comey

[18:40 – 19:48]

• Clay plays a 2019 clip from Rush Limbaugh, who revealed Comey previously admitted to being a communist in his youth and questioned the real ideological motivations of figures like Comey and former CIA Director John Brennan.

  “Turns out not to be true [that Comey is a lifelong Republican]… In a 2003 interview with New York Magazine… Comey said before voting for Jimmy Carter in 1980, he'd been a Communist.” — Rush Limbaugh (archival) [18:40]

  • Clay reflects on the “collectivist foundation” of such officials and connects it to larger issues within the national security bureaucracy.

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4. Listener Engagement and “Nobody Is Above the Law”

[21:38; 23:03]

• Listeners call and leave messages, reinforcing the central theme that Comey, due to his high status or stature (“even if you’re 6’10” — referencing both his literal height and power), should not be immune from legal scrutiny.
  • One caller quips:

    “Hey, Buck, I just wanted to repeat the Democrat talking point that nobody is above the law, even if you're 6 foot 10.” — Listener [21:38]

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5. Media and Left Critique: Hypocrisy and Precedent

[23:03 – 24:17]

• Buck and Clay respond to left-leaning pundits who claim prosecuting Comey sets a dangerous precedent:

  “I'm sorry, was she asleep for the last four years? …We had a presidential candidate and former president under indictment in four different cases. The first time it had ever happened, and then they did it four times.” — Clay Travis [23:24]

  • They point to the comparatively harsher treatment of Trump advisors Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro, who have served prison time.

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6. Global Crime Comparisons and Potential Solutions

[25:30 – 34:59]

• Buck compares the U.S. crime crisis with successes abroad:
  • Low-Crime Societies: Buck references Taiwan, Tokyo, and Norway as examples of high-trust, low-crime societies, but pushes back against the idea that cultural homogeneity is the sole cause.
  • El Salvador’s Transformation:
    • He highlights President Bukele’s efforts:

      “In 2015… El Salvador was at 103 homicides per 100,000 residents… This year, 1.1 per 100,000 — a 100 times reduction in the murder rate in 10 years.” — Buck Sexton [30:14-31:02]

    • Buck argues that American cities like Chicago could, in theory, replicate such turnarounds — it’s ultimately a matter of public will and political choice.
    • He rebuts fatalism, insisting that “it does not have to be this way.”

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7. Trump, Urban Crime, and Political Strategy

[39:32 – 40:38]

• Caller Eric from Wisconsin suggests Trump’s strategy of sending federal agents to cities could pierce the “Stockholm syndrome” among urban voters, who could shift allegiances if their daily safety improves.
• Clay concurs, noting:

  “If Trump is safe, successful, what then? …Because people being a lot safer… there’s a real shift that can happen.” — Clay Travis [40:38]

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8. Preview of Katie Porter Segment

[04:25, 37:49, 40:38]

• Teaser for a segment on Katie Porter (Congresswoman running for California governor) and her viral exchange with a journalist, criticized for being “very nasty.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On DC During Shutdown:

  “It feels like the swamp has been cleared. It’s great… perfect weather, no bureaucrats, and you can drive anywhere in less than 10 minutes.” — Buck Sexton [02:41]

• On Lawfare:

  “They sent an FBI team to Mar-a-Lago and they went through Melania's sock drawer and libs want to lecture us about James Comey… Is there some special carve out for being a, you know, 6 foot 10 jerk who uses the law in order to puff himself up?” — Clay Travis [07:57]

• Rush Limbaugh on Comey’s Past:

  “Turns out not to be true [that he’s a lifelong Republican]… Comey said… he’d been a communist.” — Rush Limbaugh [18:40]

• On Urban Crime Turnarounds:

  “It’s not true… any Latin American country, and really any country, can do what El Salvador has done. And what Bukele deserves a standing ovation for…” — Buck Sexton [32:47]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|---------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:36 | Buck’s DC government shutdown observations | | 05:36 | Bill Hemmer (Fox News) update on Comey’s trial | | 06:14 | Clay critiques left’s “dangerous precedent” narrative on Comey | | 13:35 | The importance of indicting elite political actors | | 18:40 | Archival: Rush Limbaugh warns about Comey’s ideological past | | 23:24 | Clay attacks media’s concern over precedent | | 25:30 | Comparison: Crime rates in U.S., Taiwan, Japan, El Salvador | | 30:14 | El Salvador’s historic murder rate drop | | 39:32 | Caller Eric: Trump, urban crime, and political consequences | | 40:38 | Clay: “If Trump is safe, successful, what then?” |

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Tone & Style

Clay and Buck blend earnest conservative analysis with playful banter, listener engagement, and tongue-in-cheek cultural references (e.g., superhero analogies, jokes about bureaucrats, and wordplay). The segment includes pointed criticisms of left-leaning figures and media, nostalgic nods to Rush Limbaugh, and calls to action for the conservative movement.

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Conclusion

The episode provides a brisk run-through of government dysfunction, elite hypocrisy, and criminal justice double standards. With humor, personal anecdotes, and stern warnings, Clay and Buck frame recent events through a conservative lens, all while urging their audience to stay vigilant, informed, and politically active.

Transcript

[Clay Travis]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Buck Sexton]

People ask us all the time how we can save the next generation.

[Clay Travis]

We've got our show and the info is an antidote. But we also have a couple books coming out. Clay.

[Buck Sexton]

That's right. And you can pre order both of them right now and be book nerds just like us.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

Both are great reads. One might even say they would make fabulous gifts.

[Clay Travis]

Indeed. So do us a solid and preorder yours on Amazon today. Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, Continuing government shutdown edition. And I got a lot of news to talk to you about today. And we're going to be joined by a couple senators to discuss some of it. Senator Rand Paul in the second hour, Senator Ron Johnson in the third hour. I am here in our nation's capital. So figure she talked to some of the lawmakers and legislators and people making the decisions, and they have a little more time on their hands because of this shutdown situation. We've also got Trump weighing in heavily on the National Guard deployment to Chicago. He's got some choice Trump words, James Comey, his trial. I've got updates for you on that. I've also got a, well, some, some Pam Bondi hearing stuff that we can discuss a little bit of. I just wanted to start with this, though. DC Is absolutely lovely right now. It is incredible being here. Now, some of it might be the increase in safety because of the Trump agenda. But just, just hear me out. The government shutdown means that this city is wide open. There's, there's no one clogging the streets. The roadways are wide open. You can drive anywhere. It is a ghost town in all the best ways. So I'm having a great time. I'm walking around the broad boulevards, barely a soul in sight. The restaurants, you can get a table anywhere. I can drive around. D.C. has among the worst traffic congestion areas in the entire country. D.C. is pretty much always a top five contender and often a top three for the worst traffic. And you have hundreds of thousands of government workers who are currently on furlough, not going into these massive federal buildings, pushing a bunch of paper around. So the city is great. I gotta say, this shutdown, it's a fantastic time to be in this town and having some meetings with Various stakeholders and movers and shakers here. Some of it off the record, but it's interesting stuff that's going on. That much I can tell you. Some people are saying very interesting meetings, very interesting for Mr. Buck. But yeah, I have to check in on my people here in D.C. sometimes. I'm just saying it's a great time, but why should you care about that? Well, what do we need all these government workers for if everything seems fine without them going to their jobs? I think it's a fair ask. Remember, the Pentagon is still going Public safety. There's essential and non essential services in this town. And the non essential includes a lot of people who I think are remote work, remote workers anyway, or have been. And everything seems to be functioning just fine. I don't know, maybe if you have to wait in line longer than normal or you can't get into the, like the certain areas of a national park, you're upset. But for me, walking around our nation's capital, it feels like the swamp has been cleared. It's great. And I think that it's a reminder that we have a massive and bloated federal bureaucracy. And if there are some changes made to that as part of the shutdown, to me that is a good thing. That is a good thing. But yeah, I think this is one of the. You have perfect weather, no bureaucrats, and you can drive anywhere here in this town now in less than 10 minutes. This is the best version of D.C. i can remember. I mean, this is great. So I'm having a lot of fun here. Uh, and I'm down here, of course, in our, in our DC I Heart studio. All right, now with that said, we've got some, some updates on a whole range of things. Oh, this is what I was looking for when I started off the show. Katie Porter. We will discuss this. She's running for governor. She's a congresswoman. See, she is not a particularly affable one and may have done some real damage to her campaign. You're just gonna have to hear this exchange, but I will play that one for you. It has gone mega viral. She can be very nasty. Kind of a nasty exchange with a journalist who's trying to ask her some questions. So we will get to that as well, that Katie Porter situation. But as I had mentioned to you, we have as of this morning update here on the James Comey trial. I believe it is going to be happening January 5th. It is set for. So that's pretty quick. They're, they're moving pretty fast on this one. And here is FOX News Bill Hemmer. This is from this morning. Just with that breaking news and laying out some of what's going on here for sanktacomy. Play it.

[Bill Hemmer]

Here is the breaking news. The former FBI director James Comey in front of a judge moments ago in a hearing that we did not think would last long. And apparently that is the case. He has entered a plea of not guilty to two charges federal level. Now, our producers inside the courtroom say the former director accused of lying to Congress, obstructing aggression, congressional proceeding, end of the plea moments ago in front of the judge Michael Nachman off appointed by Joe Biden, not guilty on both federal charges. He's accused of lying in front of Congress back in 2020. So that is the update inside the courtroom.

[Clay Travis]

So now he's going to trial. One of the most hilarious arguments against this that I keep seeing all over the place from the libs is, oh my gosh, the precedent that has been set here. What would you do, Republicans, if people started to use prosecutors offices as weapons of politics? And to this you just want to say, have you been asleep for the last decade? Do you have any idea what has gone on with four different criminal cases brought against Donald Trump, all of which were bogus civil cases brought against Trump by the state of New York in one case and by a woman who claims from 30 years ago, 30 something years ago, Trump, you know, grabbed her in a department store. The stuff that they have done, the lawfare they have done against Trump and his family alone has done tremendous damage to the public's faith in all of these different facets of our criminal justice system or just our justice system of the courts, too, because some of it was civilization. This is atrocious. I mean, the things that have gone on here, the precedents that have already been set, now they want to tell us we should be worried about going too far in the other direction. No, they already did this. In fact, what they have done, what the Democrats have done specifically with the targeted lawfare against Donald Trump, among many others, it's really Trump and Trump world, everybody who is Trump adjacent all the way to January, six defendants, right? It's the whole Trump movement that they have used the prosecutor's office, they have used lawfare as a, as a tool, as a weapon to ruin lives, to put tremendous pressure on people, to financially drain them, to undermine them, to malign them, to defame them. All of that they have already done. They sent an FBI team to Mar a Lago and they went through Melania's sock drawer and libs want to lecture us about James Comey, who allegedly lied under oath, facing the music. I'm sorry, is there some special carve out for being a, you know, 6 foot 10 jerk who uses the law in order to puff himself up and as part of his own just malignant narcissism, Is there some carve out where he doesn't have to actually face the music the way that he has made so many others and I think entrapped people and abused the law, most notably General Flynn? I like to fill in these gaps too. So no one can say, well, you just said he's abusing. No, I like to give you the specifics to remind everybody. To remind everybody that James Comey thought it was funny to use the Logan act, which no serious human being thinks anybody can or would be prosecuted under, as a total pretext. It's like the equivalent of a swatting call. It is a bad faith use of law enforcement to go after the General Michael Flynn, the incoming national security advisor. I know it feels like that was a long time ago, but there hasn't been. Well, maybe you don't feel that way, but they'll say that. But there's been no justice for that. That ambush hasn't been punished. And James Comey thinks that he's a clever guy for the whole thing and he thinks that. What was that book, I think was Higher power. Is that right? Higher Power or something like that? I'm. Now, the real question you might ask is, is James Comey's book a more brutal read than Kamala's 107 days? I cannot answer that question because I haven't read Comey's book. But I will tell you that is some stiff competition that is, you know, Superman versus Iron man with the, like, the super suit. You know, I mean, that is tough stuff. Really, really preposterous that James Comey would think anybody would want to read his memoir and on his book tour. But such as things are, he is now facing the music and there's the possibility. I think it's slim. I don't want to over promise and under deliver ever on this show. I think it is slim. But here's what I will tell that, that he will actually be convicted because it's a. It's a Northern Virginia jury. I was just saying how much fun. How much fun DC Is with no government bureaucrats running around. They all live in Arlington mostly. You know, they live a lot of them inside or just outside of the Beltway. It's going to be a very favorable pool for James Comey. But here's why I view this as so important. The message is received whether Comey is found guilty or not. The message is received that there will at least be an effort to hold the other side to the law and not create a system. This is really important, a system where we are held to an extra legal standard and they are held to a sub legal standard. Or rather, they get to break the law and get away with it. Meanwhile, they get to prosecute us, Trump, for not breaking the law and we do nothing in response. We have to at least establish that we will bring charges against people who have been involved in this lawfare, involved in using the government, the deep state, however you want to describe it, to take out people for purely political reasons. Well, if they break the law in that process, there will be some form of accountability. And now there is going to be, I think, a pretty high probability just based on the jury pool that Comey will be found. In my mind, he'll be found not guilty, he'll be acquitted on this. But let's see, let's see. It's a pretty straightforward thing. Did he lie or did he not lie? Let's see what kind of case the prosecutor. I know, I don't want to prejudge anything here. Let's see what is produced in that court. You don't need to call me and say, buck, you're already getting ahead of the, you know, cart before the horse here. I know, but I just, I like to manage our expectations for where this is going. It's a, it's still a steep climb. This is a little bit of ice skating uphill here to think that James Comey is going to actually be convicted. But the fact that the charge has been brought alone sends a message. We are not going to just lie down and accept a two tiered system of justice in this town, Washington, D.C. or anywhere else for that matter. And that is important. That is something that we all have to recognize as a necessary step because otherwise it's, you know, heads they win, tails we lose. Did I do that one right? That's always, I always feel like I'm gonna get that one wrong. It's like Bush when he's like, fool me once, can't, can't get fooled again. You know, it's tougher to say it, especially on a live radio show, than you think it's gonna be, you know, but that's where this is right now, my friends. That is the situation. I was just talking before I came on air today about how much we love our Cozy Earth sheets. And also we've got a blanket. I mean, Carrie is wrapped in this blanket now all the time. 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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back into Clay and Buck. I've been warning people for years about this Comey guy and I wish if the president at the time had pulled me aside and asked me early on in his first term, I would have shared. All you have to know about James Comey, you would know from the way he acted with respect to the Martha Stewart prosecution, a prosecution that nobody in his office but him wanted to bring. A prosecution for which there was no crime, not even any money made or lost. It was just, the whole thing was absurd. And Martha Stewart is a huge Democrat who does not like Trump and does not like Republicans. And this is just about what's, what's fair and decent. It's not about politics. Uh, but Comey really has always thought of himself as like the high priest of the doj. So much of Comey, I will tell you this, so much of Comey reminds me of Foushee. Foushee is like the, the, you know, the, the Lilliputian version of Comey. They have, it's the same personality type. They pretend it's all about the cause in the institution. It's really all about them. And they get this solipsism, word of the day, solipsism from all of this. You like that one producer Ali likes that one. And I'm not the only one warning you about this guy or have been warning about this guy for a long time. The great Rush LIMBAUGH, back in 2019, he saw exactly who James Comey was and also knew about his past, which we should all be reminded of. Play 2.

[Rush Limbaugh (archival clip)]

How many of you have heard or thought that James Comey was a lifelong Republican? I have. I've always thought that James Comey was a lifelong Republican. I've been told that James Comey is a lifelong Republican. Turns out not to be true. Are you aware that James Comey used to be a Communist? In a 2003 interview with New York magazine, James Comey said before voting for Jamie Carter, Jimmy Carter, 1980, he'd been a communist. He admitted I'd moved from communist to whatever I am now. Now we know that John Brennan, Obama's CIA director, was a Communist, or at least had voted for the Communist Party. But I had never heard this about Comey. Now we find out that under Obama, the CIA director and the FBI director both had histories of not just flirtation, but serious immersion into communism. And like the KGB always said, no one ever leaves the kgb. Nobody ever leaves.

[Clay Travis]

This way of thinking isn't that interesting. You start to see how for some of these individuals, there was an ideological foundation of communism. And these are people who are at the top of the national security apparatus in this country in recent years. Communism. And then they become some malleable chameleon in politics just so they can weave their way through the bureaucracy. But do you think they've ever really changed their collectivist foundation? Rush didn't think that Comey had, or Brennan for that matter. And he was right. He warned us about this. And now perhaps there will be some accountability for the misdeeds that were done. But we're not going to hold our breath on Comey. We're going to see. Look, as you know, I've always been a big reader. I love books. That's certainly true. I also like writing a lot. And when I'm not on radio, I've been busy creating a weekly E newsletter. Something of real value if you care about the markets and the big stories out there. We called it Money and Power for reasons that will become very obvious when you subscribe. I've got great research partners on this one, people with long experience investing and picking stocks, and I'm bringing the big stories. We're putting it together for a one of a kind opportunity. And I think, by the way, there's going to be an opportunity coming up soon for a huge wealth creation, what I'm calling Manhattan Project 2. So I want you to get all the details. Don't miss out. Just sign up for this newsletter. It is Fantastic. Go to insider2025.com right now. Join this movement today. Get 82% off. You'll be so glad you did. Go to this website, insider2025.com paid for by Paradigm Press. All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. As we said, Comey is facing a trial in January for allegedly lying to Congress. And here we have talkback from Jeff in Salt Lake City on this specific issue. Let's play a on the talkbacks. Hey, Buck, I just wanted to repeat the Democrat talking point that nobody is above the law, even if you're 6 foot 10. I like it. Well, well done. Comey is very tall. He might even be Jesse Kelly. I hit my head on the ceilings of every building in America. Tall, I think, I mean, Comey and Jesse Kelly are in that same, you know, oh, I can't sit in airplane seats because my knees are, you know, up around my, my ears or whatever. It's like, okay, buddy, you know, very tall, almost 7 footers. I don't think either of them play basketball either. So they've got that in common. There you go. You know, separated at birth. I don't know, Jesse. So, yes, Comey is a very tall fellow and he should not be above the law. This, of course, is upsetting all of the Democrats out there. This is upsetting the Democrats who are trying to now convince. I don't think that they believe they're going to convince us with this, but it's a talking point that they put out there for the consumption of their own side, their own audience, where they will say things like, but what about the president? You're setting here. And here is POLITICO's White House correspondence. This is cut 26. Listen to this argument.

[POLITICO White House Correspondent]

This opens up a bit of a Pandora's box, right? Not just for this administration, but for future administrations that may want to follow suit, Republican or Democrat. This is unprecedented and it creates some precedent for this kind of action from a president and a Justice Department that follows that kind of direction.

[Clay Travis]

I'm sorry, was she asleep for the last four years? You really have to wonder, does she not understand what has been happening in this country? We had a presidential candidate and former president under indictment in four different cases. The first time it had ever happened, and then they did it four times. So they're going to try to tell us about the precedent that it sets now. Oh, my gosh, James Comey. This is madness. And never mind the fact that you had senior Trump advisers who went to prison, okay? Navarro and Bannon are older gentlemen, and they had to pick which bunk bed they were sleeping in for, like, six months. They went to prison because they stood on their principles and refused to bend the knee to the Democrat lawfare. They actually serve time over that. And there are others in the Trump orbit who have as well. But we're supposed to weep. We're supposed to be upset about the. The precedent that is set by James Comey. Maybe. And it's a big maybe, maybe facing some form of justice here. Just understand this. Comey's perfectly happy sending other people to prison many times over for lying to the FBI, lying to Congress, lying, whatever the case may be. He had no problem with that. James Comey didn't shed a tear for all the people over all the years that he was f. He was in the FBI or that he was a federal prosecutor, in which case he was really making the decisions. Right. FBI investigates, but the FBI will refer to. They work very hand in glove with U.S. attorneys with AUSAs. And so if the FBI hands a case over, they're like, well, we think this guy's, you know, go get him. US Attorneys usually going to say, yeah, okay, and they do. But Comey's been on both sides of that coin. Remember, Comey has never had a badge and a gun and tackled a bad guy to the ground in his life. That's an important aspect of this as well. It's like, oh, the FBI director, he's a law man. He's a, you know, he's a G man. He's a guy that. No, he's. He's a lawyer and a scummy one. So that's something that I think you have to keep in mind here as well, that, that Comey was perfectly willing to send. That's why the Martha Stewart example, I think, is so powerful. I know it's a long time ago, almost like 20 years now, but it still goes to show you, he doesn't shed a tear for other people when they are separated from their family, humiliated reputation ruined for the most. For the most minor transgression under the most strict reading of federal statute. So why should. Why should this not be a case of what's good for the goose is good for the gander? That's the phrase, right? Yes. Just making sure. So the only reason I know what a get like, did you know what a gander was. Other than that, I never, you know, have you ever been with somebody where they point, they're like, look at the gander, you know what I mean? I don't know. I've never had that one. So at least I know the got the phrase right, which is, which is important. So, yes, COMEY is facing all this. And now, okay, let's do some, let's do some talk about this situation in. Oh, sorry, I was pulling this up situation in Chicago. But I wanted to note something because I keep telling you with respect to Taipei, Taiwan, please go listen to the interview I did. It's [e-mail] with the President of Taiwan. It got picked up by Bloomberg. It's been picked up by a lot of news organizations around the world. Now, he says some really important stuff. He says that President Trump is the deciding factor here to create peace or to sustain peace in that area. And if he does, and he thinks he will, he should get the Nobel Peace Prize just for that. So a lot of, a lot of reason, I think, to listen to that, if you can. But there's also what I, the case that I've been making to you is look at how safe it is. This, this, this is going to translate to our Chicago and Portland discussion here in just a second. But I said, look at how safe it is in Taipei, Taiwan. Look at what it's like there. And the same thing is true in Tokyo. There are a number of cities. Norway has an incredibly low crime rate and very nice fjords, but very low crime rate. And. Or is that Sweden? I might have just, actually, I might have just Sweden, Norway. Do they, they both have fjords, right? Do they both call them fjords? Whatever. So this is why I got a crack research team here. They're going to correct me on my fjords, ganders and fjords. We're learning, we're learning all kinds of new things. People say to me in response to this. I got a lot of, first of all, some folks are saying, is it, is it, it's just nice to observe that. It's nice to know that that is possible. But what a lot of, even conservatives were saying to me online when I shared that, that experience in Taiwan, it's just, there's just no crime. Worrying about being, you know, brutally carjacked or something in Taiwan is like worrying about a shark attack in two feet of water. It can happen, but I don't think you're really going to worry about it. You know, it's not impossible, but you Don't. Whereas there are other places where, you know, you're jumping in the water, they're chumming the water, and there's already some big fins. You know, like, you got problems. Right. It's very different mentality, very different situation. But people kept saying to me, oh, but it's so different there. In specifically the cases of Taiwan, Japan, I would add Norway to that list because they say those are cohesive, high trust cultures. Now, that is true, but there's something, there's. There's another layer, there's another part of this argument that I want conservatives, I want the right, I want the Trump team, some of whom are listening right now, hey, guys, I want them to know this and have this one ready to deploy because this is important. People will somewhat dismiss the low crime miracle, if you will, of a Taiwan, a Tokyo, a Norway, Switzerland kind of has a similar ish level of crime. They'll dismiss it because they'll say, well, that's their small country. Well, Japan's not a small country, But Taiwan's got 23 million people. It's not that small. But the, the cultural cohesiveness that, that everyone is. It's places that are not, that are not, you know, multilingual and diverse places that there is a high level of societal trust. Okay, well, what about El Salvador? This is really, I keep telling everybody, there's a reason the media doesn't want to talk about El Salvador, and they want to do everything possible in this country to undermine Bukele, who is responsible for a miraculous turnaround. Rudy Giuliani himself would give Bukele a high five because, remember, Rudy had the New York miracle with crime. He would give bukele a high five for what he has done in El Salvador in 2015. Ten years ago, El Salvador was at 103 homicides, poor per 100,000 residents. That is, if not at that time, the highest in the world. It was top three, and it might have been the highest. Honduras, El Salvador, these countries were going back and forth, but let's just say it was basically the highest murder rate in the world. For a country not at war, right? You don't count war deaths the same way, but for homicides. El Salvador was the single most dangerous place, certainly, you know, top three in the world. And very different. I don't think, I don't think anybody needs an explanation. Very different culturally and otherwise from Japan and Norway. And it's a Latin American country. El Salvador in this year had1.1 murder per 100,000 residents, 100 times reduction in the murder rate in 10 years. So I don't want to hear this fatalism from people that, oh, that's only possible. You can only make streets safe. You can only make people feel like their wives and daughters can jog alone at night without a care in the world other than traffic. You can only do that in places like Japan and, and Taiwan and Norway and Switzerland and Monaco, you know, places like that. It's not true. And what should be happening right now is the rest of Latin America. I mean, the, the crime rate in some of these Latin American countries is still astonishing. Parts of Mexico are very safe, but parts of Mexico are among the most dangerous places in the world. Now, it's a big country, so that brings the overall number down a bit. But Colima, Mexico, which is in the central south, I would guess you'd say on a map, it controls. It's a city nearby to one of the main Pacific ports where all the fentanyl precursors are coming in. That is the city that certainly last year had the highest murder rate in the world. It was the most. It's just a cartel war going on there. Highest murder rate in the world. And the truth is, any Latin American country, and really any country can do what El Salvador has done. And what Bukele deserves a standing ovation for which he is getting from his people, by the way, despite how much the Washington Post hates him and despite how much CNN tries to undermine him, because it's possible here, too. You get the crime, you tolerate. Society makes a choice. It does not have to be this way. And for everybody who is dismissing a little bit of what I saw in Taiwan, I say, okay, El Salvador is pretty much as safe as Taiwan now. Pretty close. You want to explain that one to me? 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[Clay Travis]

All right, we'll get some of your calls and talk backs here. Of course. Welcome back into the show. We'll discuss the Katie Porter for governor situation. The meltdown that happened during an interview. Very nasty. Very nasty woman. I don't know why people in California can't see to a better candidate than this, but she is very likely. It is believed to be the next governor of California which again, I'm a reality based conservative always. California is an amazing state, a beautiful state. I'm a big fan of, of it as a place and there are lots of great people there. But man, that government is not good. State government is not good. Let's take. Well actually let's get to this talk back here. BB Josh from Oklahoma, hit it. Hey Buck. Josh from Oklahoma. Love the show but I gotta say, bad form on the analogy. If you're gonna do analogies, stick to tennis because if anything it should be Superman versus the Hulk. Why? Why can't it be Superman versus Iron Man? Isn't that DC and Marvel? Isn't that a crossover? I don't understand why Superman versus the Hulk. There was a movie that was Superman versus Batman. It was not a good movie. But you know, producer Mark is my, he can text me. He's my Marvel universe and, and DC Comics expert. So producer Mark, you're the judge on this one. Can you, can you make a call here? Was my, was my Iron Man Superman analogy really that off? I thought, I thought I was sitting at the cool kids table with that one. Apparently, apparently not. Eric in Wisconsin, what have you got for me?

[Caller Eric from Wisconsin]

Hey, Joel, Great to be on again, too. Hey, I think what's going on in the big cities across the country is that we are seeing the Stockholm syndrome going on. You know, why are people voting a certain way when it's against their certain interests? And this is what Trump, Trump is, I think, is addressing. He's sending these agents into these big cities. And it is the most visible way to start chipping it away, chipping away of what's going on relative to the Stockholm syndrome. And when you really take a look at the anger of the Democrat leaders whose cities are being, you know, not invaded, but who are, you know, where they're coming into, they are so upset because they know Trump is going to address this. And when you take a look at Maslow Love's hierarchy of needs, the government's already taking care of the physiological part, the food, the shelter and so forth. What's the next step up? It's safety. And if people are going to see safety done immediately, people are going to start changing their minds in the big cities. And this is why the Democrats are so, so upset.

[Clay Travis]

I think you've stumbled onto the real answer here, my friend. Thank you for calling in. If Trump is safe, successful, what then? They can't allow him to be successful because people being a lot safer, they appreciate that there's, there's a real shift that can happen. Producer Mark Our, our comics expert has weighed in. I think Superman vs Hulk would make more sense. They both have superpowers. Iron man is a rich guy with a cool suit that just gives him powers. I mean, but it's like a really cool suit. He flies, he's got lasers. I, I think we're under. I mean, okay, Marcus weighed in. I'll take his, I'll take his judgment on this one. But I wasn't, I wasn't that far off. Katie Porter is coming up next. This viral exchange she had. She wants to be the next governor of California following in new scum's footsteps. We'll talk about it. This is an Iheart podcast.