Hour 1 - Socialism will ruin NYC

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 1 - Socialism Will Ruin NYC
Release Date: July 2, 2025
Host: Tudor Dixon (Guest Host)
Guests: Kyle Olson, Giano Caldwell
Location: Wood Radio Studios, Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Introduction and Setting the Stage (00:34 - 02:00)

In the absence of regular hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton, Tudor Dixon steps in to deliver a compelling episode focused on the rising influence of socialism within one of America's most pivotal cities—New York City. Dixon introduces Kyle Olson, a seasoned political commentator, highlighting the tumultuous state of the Democratic Party and setting the stage for an in-depth discussion on the implications of electing a socialist mayor in NYC.

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The Mayoral Election and Mamdani's Candidacy (02:00 - 07:23)

Kyle Olson emphasizes the historical impact of conservative voices like Rush Limbaugh on shaping the current political landscape:

"I remember watching Rush Limbaugh late at night on Fox News... he impacted our generation and I believe paved the way for two terms of President Donald Trump."
(02:00)

Dixon and Olson delve into the candidacy of Mamdani, the Democratic nominee for New York City's mayoral race, who openly identifies as a socialist. Dixon critiques Mamdani’s background, noting his affluent upbringing and academic pursuits in African Studies rather than practical governance:

"He grew up on the Upper West Side of Manhattan... he's a rich kid... he hates billionaires."
(05:09)

They argue that Mamdani's policies are detached from the realities faced by the average New Yorker, suggesting his affluent status shields him from the adverse effects of his proposed socialist policies.

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Socialism's Impact and Democratic Party's Direction (07:23 - 16:16)

The hosts critically examine Mamdani's political stances, particularly his commitment to Palestinian liberation, which Olson interprets as aiming to undermine Israel:

"From the river to the sea. It's to eliminate Israel."
(08:11)

Dixon links Mamdani's rhetoric to broader concerns about the Democratic Party's shift to the far left, highlighting the New York Times’ refusal to endorse him as indicative of internal party conflicts:

"The New York Times... they're not regular news. They're Democrats. They endorsed against him."
(04:13)

They express skepticism about mainstream Democrats' capacity to counteract the growing socialist faction within the party, questioning the viability of such policies in diverse and economically significant regions.

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Interview with Giano Caldwell: America's Violent Crime Crisis (20:00 - 32:36)

Giano Caldwell, founder of the Caldwell Institute for Public Safety and author of The Day My Brother Was Murdered, My Journey Through America's Violent Crime Crisis, joins the discussion to provide a personal and analytical perspective on the consequences of progressive policies like defunding the police.

Caldwell shares his tragic personal story:

"The Day My Brother Was Murdered... it goes back to the day my brother was murdered in Chicago... 150 people murdered across the nation."
(20:39)

He critiques the defunding of police, linking it to increased violence and economic decline:

"He voted to defund the police in New York City by $1 billion, and they did. And what came after, death and destruction."
(20:39)

Caldwell argues for a law-and-order approach, emphasizing the need for strong policing to ensure public safety and economic stability:

"You cannot have a free society without law and order."
(24:02)

He also touches on the broader societal impacts, including the erosion of family structures and the failure of the education system:

"There has to be accountability... the education system is passing kids along without them actually being proficient."
(29:00)

Caldwell highlights real-life consequences of current policies, such as business exoduses from cities like Chicago and Detroit due to rampant crime.

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Listener Engagement and Public Sentiment (32:36 - 37:28)

Post-interview, Dixon opens the floor to listeners, illustrating widespread concern across states about socialism's rise in major cities.

Kevin from Ohio voices optimism about the potential downfall of NYC's socialist agenda:

"I think this mayoral election is a gift to us. Let’s let the world watch New York liberals swim in their own sewage."
(36:18)

Eric from Florida echoes fears of enforced socialism and questions the practicality of defunding the police:

"It's mandatory, enforced by brown shirts... who are you going to send to take my gun?"
(37:06)

These call-ins underscore a national unease with the Democratic Party's ideological shift and its potential ramifications on local governance and public safety.

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Conclusion and Upcoming Topics (37:28 - End)

As the episode wraps up, Tudor Dixon teases upcoming discussions on the P. Diddy trial, insights from Linda McMahon on women's sports, and the broader implications for American society as it approaches significant national celebrations.

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Key Takeaways

• Rising Socialism in Major Cities: The Democratic Party faces internal strife with the emergence of openly socialist candidates like Mamdani, whose policies may alienate traditional voters and disrupt economic stability.

• Economic and Public Safety Concerns: Policies such as defunding the police are critically linked to increased violent crime and the exodus of businesses from high-crime cities, threatening local and national economies.

• Personal Narratives Highlight Broader Issues: Giano Caldwell's personal loss and professional insights illustrate the tangible human cost of current progressive policies, advocating for a return to law-and-order approaches.

• National Unease and Call for Accountability: Listener feedback from across the country reflects a widespread demand for political accountability and a rejection of extremist policies perceived as harmful to societal well-being.

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Notable Quotes

• Kyle Olson on Media Influence:

  "I remember watching Rush Limbaugh late at night on Fox News... he impacted our generation and I believe paved the way for two terms of President Donald Trump."
  (02:00)

• Tudor Dixon on Mamdani's Background:

  "He grew up on the Upper West Side of Manhattan... he's a rich kid... he hates billionaires."
  (05:09)

• Giano Caldwell on Defunding Police:

  "You cannot have a free society without law and order."
  (24:02)

• Kevin from Ohio on Mayoral Election:

  "I think this mayoral election is a gift to us. Let’s let the world watch New York liberals swim in their own sewage."
  (36:18)

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This episode provides a critical examination of the Democratic Party's current trajectory, the potential impacts of socialist policies on major urban centers, and the urgent need for solutions to America's violent crime crisis. Through informed discussions and personal testimonies, Tudor Dixon and his guests offer listeners a comprehensive analysis of pressing political and social issues facing the nation.

Transcript

[Tudor Dixon]

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[Kyle Olson]

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[Tudor Dixon]

Hello and welcome to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. The guys are off today and as you've probably noticed, they left me in charge. I am Tutor Dixon and I will be filling in today. I am the host of the Tutor Dixon Podcast, which is actually a part of Clay and Buck's podcast network. So they are trusting me today. We'll see if that's a good idea or not. But the Tutor Dixon Podcast, you can catch it every Monday, Wednesday and Friday on the iHeartRadio Apple. We talk about everything, politics, all the things that the guys are covering here. But today we are excited because we are coming to you live from the Wood Radio studios here in Grand Rapids, Michigan. We've got a great show coming up for you. We are talking one on one with the US Secretary of Education, Linda McMahon. She has a huge announcement. She announced it last night, but we're going to get into some of the details of what's happening there. A major victory for women's sports. We also have the latest on the P. Diddy trial with Yaku Boyans. And we're going to be taking a deep dive into this violence that's taking over our cities with Giano Caldwell a little bit later. First, I want to introduce a friend that I have with me today, Kyle Olson. He's actually probably the reason that I'm here, so I had him join me today. I'm new to politics. I got into this in about 2017 when Kyle pulled me out of the manufacturing sector. But he's been doing this for a very long time, so he's kind of, kind of my political sensei. So he's here with me today. Kyle, say hello.

[Kyle Olson]

Thank you and thanks for having me. It's what an honor it is to be with you today and for including me. To me, this time is hallowed ground. Noon to 3 was learning time when I was growing up. I remember watching Rush Limbaugh late At night on Fox News. I was in high school in the mid-1990s, and my youth pastor, Wally Coutts, who is now a pastor in Allegan, Michigan, would take me out to lunch sometimes. And for that eight minute drive, he'd have Rush Limbaugh on the radio. And at that time, it was like, it was like water in the desert. And of course, that was a time when there was no Internet archive, There were no clips on social media. And so if you didn't hear it between noon and three, you missed it. But he impacted our generation and I believe paved the way for two terms of President Donald Trump. So. So it's a thrill for me to be here and thank you to Clay and Buck for giving both of us this opportunity.

[Tudor Dixon]

Yeah. And honestly, that is what Kyle's upbringing is what brought me here. And we think every day, what would Rush Limbaugh think about what is happening right now? And I say that because we're watching the Democrat Party in total chaos. They have this Mandami situation in New York. They're trying to figure out exactly where they stand on it. You've had a lot of people who have come out and said they don't want to endorse him, but they're kind of. They're shy about it. They're shy about it because they don't know where the Democrat Party is heading. I think what's interesting in what we're seeing with this new Mandani who is he is now the anointed mayor. Maybe he's been he made it through the primary. Generally, a Democrat who makes it through the primary in New York becomes the mayor. But this is very unique. He's a socialist. He's come out and said he is a socialist. Yeah. Proudly a socialist. The New York Times, I think this is funny because this is very telling. The New York Times a few years ago came out and said they're not going to endorse in local elections anymore. They just want to be regular news. They're not going to do it. They're not regular news. They're Democrats. They endorsed against him.

[Kyle Olson]

Yeah. It's fascinating to watch because you have the element of the media, which you just described, but then you also have the party and you have the situation where now a Democrat is the socialist, is the Democrat nominee for the mayor of New York. He's got, I think, a very good chance of winning. We'll see how Eric Adams does as an independent candidate. Can he, you know, mount the coalition that he did in 2021 to get reelected as an independent. That's going to be interesting to see. But you've got this situation where I would. I don't know if mainstream Democrats actually exist anymore. But you have sort of the establishment Democrats who don't want to embrace Memdani because they know he may be able to win in a place like New York City. But can he win in marginal districts? Can he win in communities where socialism can. Is not embraced?

[Tudor Dixon]

Well, not yet. Not yet. And that's. They're not ready yet to go there. But the others, the leaders of their parties are embracing this, they're cheering this on. And I think they have been for a long time. But the story of Mamdani, or whatever his name is, I think is something we have to kind of dig into. Because this is a kid who, as you aptly pointed out earlier, he's been groomed for this. He came here, he came to this country. He, he is a rich kid. He's a rich kid. Like people need to understand he grew up on the Upper west side of Manhattan. This is not a kid that's brought himself out of nothing. I mean, Eric Adams is really the guy who's brought himself up from nothing. But he wants to. He's like moderately rich, you know, in the millions. And I say that because he says he hates billionaires. And you can conveniently land in that spot if your parents have millions of dollars, you can conveniently land in the spot where you are not going to be affected by all of the policies that you put into place. And you can try to attack the billionaire class, but you ultimately are creating this communist society. And the reason that this is, is because this is a kid who came into the United States. He went to college in Maine. He graduated in 2014. He's also a kid. I keep saying that because he's young. He graduated in 2014 with a degree in African studies. So I'm sure that's going to help him as mayor, you know, having that hardcore degree in economics. Oh no, it's African studies. And he also think about this. So he graduated in 2014, so it must have been like 2011, 2012. He forms, he co founds the school's chapter for Students for Justice in Palestine. I think a lot of people would be shocked to hear that because I think a lot of people would assume that that's something new that they're just hearing about. So. So think about this. More than 10 years ago, this kid was already forming chapters of the organization who I will say, I guarantee you that organization Funded him. This idea that he has a grassroots campaign in New York. This charmer has gone around and just gotten all these people to come out of the woodwork. There is massive money behind him.

[Kyle Olson]

Sure. And that's what happens is you've got. He's involved with the Democratic Socialists for America. He's very. He embraces them in a lot of ways that other socialists, sort of. They pretend like they're socialists, but he's embracing it in a very full throated way.

[Tudor Dixon]

Yeah, let's listen to his own words. We've got cut one here. This is him saying this. The struggle for Palestinian liberation was at the core of my politics and continues to be. So this is, this is the core. He's saying it.

[Kyle Olson]

So what does that mean? What does Palestinian liberation mean? It means it ends the quote, unquote occupation. I would argue that they don't want Israel to even be a state.

[Tudor Dixon]

From the river to the sea.

[Kyle Olson]

It's to, it's to eliminate Israel. And so when he said. And this was 2023, he said this at the Democratic Socialists of America convention when he said the struggle for Palestinian liberation was at the core of my politics and continues to be the. That's his worldview. That's how he is going to view every decision that he is making if he's in that position in New York City.

[Tudor Dixon]

So that was Pre or post October 7th?

[Kyle Olson]

I think that was pre, but I don't know the answer to that.

[Tudor Dixon]

Either one is scary. But post, just two weeks after that, he is out there and he's screaming at Senator Gillibrand. Listen to this. This is. Cut to.

[Giano Caldwell]

The last thing I have to say is one more chant. Senator Gillibrand. Senator Gillibrand. We will, we will not stop, not stop until, until you call, you call for a, for a ceasefire. Cease fire.

[Tudor Dixon]

This is an activist. This is not.

[Kyle Olson]

Yes, exactly. And so, so think about the situation that New York City voters are in.

[Tudor Dixon]

Here.

[Kyle Olson]

You have this guy, he's. He literally says. The last thing I have to say is one more chant. It's not how do we create jobs, how do we make sure people can afford rent and groceries, all of those sorts of things. It's the last thing I have to say is one more chant and then he's demanding a ceasefire. Now don't forget, as you said, two weeks after October 7th, he is in the street with a bullhorn screaming so loud that his voice is cracking, demanding a ceasefire.

[Tudor Dixon]

But it's the people behind him that make me nervous because that is not. I will Say again, this is not an organic movement. This is, this is a movement that is well funded. I mean, people have said, you go, one day they've got Palestinian flags, the next day they've got Iranian flags. They didn't go out and buy those flags. Someone is providing this. This is a well funded organization. He has been groomed for this for years from this group of free Palestine. This, the river to the sea. These, these chants which are death to Israel, death to America. You, you cannot tell me that's not what this means. In two weeks, after women were murdered, women were raped, children were dragged out of their homes, their grandparents were killed in front of them. This is what this guy says in the most Jewish city in America. And people and Democrats will not condemn this. And let's be, let's be honest. Trump, he also said has this statement out there, globalize the intifada. And he's been asked multiple times, he was asked three times just the other night, do you condemn that kind of language? And he said he won't, he won't answer the question. He says he, he doesn't contemn, condemn speech. So we're going to take a quick break here. But before we take this break, I just want to remind you guys that you can call into the show. We're going to take calls at the end of each hour. We want to hear, this is like we're going into the Fourth of July. This is the beginning. We're headed into America 250. We want to hear about what you're doing to celebrate America. I know you guys are on road trips. Tell us where you are, tell us what's going on, tell us how the traffic is, tell us what your plans are for the week. I mean you can call in for anything. But we want to hear about America because we're headed into the greatest celebration of America you've ever seen. It's going to be great because we know President Trump's going to make it great. So stay tuned. We're talking more about this Mandami mania after this break, but we'll be right back. Stay tuned.

[Kyle Olson]

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[Kyle Olson]

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[Tudor Dixon]

I'm Tudor Dixon. I'm here with Kyle Olson from the Midwesterner. And I want to jump back into what we were talking about about Mamdani. We keep talking about him as a socialist and I think it's interesting because that was taboo a few years ago in the United States. If you talked about somebody, it was like an insult. You know, if you said somebody was a socialist, they would deny it. Outside of being Bernie Sanders and maybe aoc, who I do think, you know, it's years in the making. These people push this in. But socialists are all, they all kind of start out crazy like this and. But they sound, they sound wonderful. I mean, they do. It's like this utopia because it doesn't work. It's not a real thing. And if you look back at even Karl Marx life, Marxism, his life is very similar to Mamadani. So he is in a family, they're kind of middle upper class. His parents are in the class system. They're trying to build themselves up. He becomes sort of a radical at college. He never really gets a job. He's a journalist. But he spends most of his life as an intellectual, learning and he's a thinker, he's an experimenter. He has no experience in any of these things. Very similar to what we're seeing with Mamdani. So Marx puts out all of these theories and his theories over time kill thousands and hundreds of thousands of people. It's always been proven that socialism is bad and it's never been accepted in the United States. However, I think this was just last night. We've got this clip from Scott Jennings. It is number three we have here. This is, this is Jennings kind of fighting back. He's like, are you kidding me? We're, we're headed toward communism. But this, this is from cnn and the other guys on CNN are like, oh, no, no, we're good. Listen to this.

[Giano Caldwell]

Democratic socialist elected as mayor of New York City.

[Clay Travis]

No, you agree with Pete that he is a communist.

[Tudor Dixon]

He's not a communist.

[Giano Caldwell]

He's a socialist. He said, sees the means of production. He's a socialist.

[Buck Sexton]

He is not a communist.

[Giano Caldwell]

I'm not a socialist. He's using the language of the Bolsheviks as a. That's. No, he's not. He's a socialist, not a communist. Seizing the means of production, that's called socialism, not communism. Use that. The USSR and Stone dormitory. That's where you hear that everyone coming up next.

[Tudor Dixon]

I mean, kidding. But he's like, there's just that moment where you hear him go, I'm not a socialist. Because there's that moment of reality where it strikes him where he says, how can we be accepting this? But they are accepting it.

[Kyle Olson]

And that's. To me, this shows how much the Democratic Party is in chaos and how far they have gone to the left. Because here you've got a guy saying, I mean, he's practically shouting he's a socialist. So no, no, he's not a communist. He's a socialist. So apparently to them now being a socialist is tolerable. But maybe not, maybe not communist, but socialist is. But to your point about his history, that's what's so dangerous about this, is that he, his mind, his, his brain has been filled with all of these theories and he wants to experiment with people's lives. He wants to experiment with, not affect his.

[Tudor Dixon]

It will not. That's what people need to understand. This guy lives in a $2 million condo that his parents pay for. This is never going to affect him. He just. He talks. He has that video where it shows they bulldoze these buildings and then they build up these new communes where everybody can live together. All the comrades can live together in the commun. He's going to take away the police. He's going to take away the police so that those communities just attack each other and then they'll come in. See, that's the funny thing about defunding the police. You're not really getting rid of the police. You take them away for a while, this society eats itself. And then they just take that society away and they build their communes. And you have to live under even tougher rule than police.

[Kyle Olson]

Right? And again, where has this. Where has this been tried in America? And maybe more importantly, where has it succeeded? Anywhere? And he wants to do this in, I would say, the most important city in the country. It's crazy.

[Tudor Dixon]

The most important city in the world, I would say. And that's always the thing that we hear. It's just never been done right. We know socialism. It's going to be good. It's going to be great. It's just never been done right. That's just such baloney. Okay, guys, again, I want you to know we want your calls at the end of the hour. 800-282-2882. Again, that's 800-282-2882. We know you're on vacation this week. It's Fourth of July. We know everybody's traveling around the United States of America. We are preparing for the celebration. America 250. We want to hear how you're preparing. This is the time for you to tell us all about what's happening across the country. We're here in Grand Rapids, Michigan, at the Wood Studios. We want to hear from you. Call in. We'll be right back right after this. Welcome back to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. I'm tutor Dixon. The guys are off today. I'm excited to be coming to you live from the Wood Radio studios here in Grand Rapids, Michigan. We've been talking about New York. We know that this new radical socialist wants to defund the police there. So I thought it would be great to have a conversation with my friend Giano Caldwell. He is here with us today. He is a familiar face to Many of you who watch Fox News. He's also the founder of the Caldwell Institute for Public Safety and the author of a brand new book, the Day My Brother Was Murdered, My Journey Through America's Violent Crime Crisis. Giano, thank you for joining me.

[Giano Caldwell]

Thank you for having me. It's such an honor to be with you always.

[Tudor Dixon]

Well, I so enjoyed having you on the podcast and hearing your story. And I, I just said we were talking about this move to defund the police, which is still active. You hear this Mandami guy saying he's not going to. He's changing his mind on that. Historically, he's been talking about that for years. Is defunding the police. You have experienced tragedy in your life. You lost your brother in a shooting in Chicago. You wrote this book because of the violence across the country. When you hear people say, have fewer police out there, what do you think?

[Giano Caldwell]

I believe it's a slap in the face to every victim of violent crime, especially in the city of New York, where there's been a bunch. Not only that, this is a guy who voted to defund the police in New York City by $1 billion, and they did. And what came after, death and destruction. So I'm not, I'm not sure what he's expecting to happen if he decides again to defund the police, if he wins, or if he thinks that maybe abolishing prisons is the way to go. I'm not sure if they're going to be in. The prisoner is going to be in Gracie Mansion or what the, what the idea is here. But his lunacy on steroids, I can.

[Tudor Dixon]

Tell you they won't be, they won't be anywhere near the elites. And he is one of the elites. So I want to get into your book because one of the characters that you talk about in your book, and not a character, a real life person, James Lambert, who was murdered one night. And if you read the book, you will read this story. It's so powerful. But I want to get into it because he went out at night because his mind was going and he just needed to walk in the middle of the night. And there were young kids, young kids, teenagers out there, but young. Like 12, 11. These are young kids and preteens. And he says to them, hey, you know, you should be at home. And they turn on him. And you go into this story. But we hear so much about James life in your book. And I bring this up because there's this discussion of community policing, and I don't think that people understand what that Means when they hear policing, they still think police. When Mamdani talks community policing, he's saying, you know, just have the elders talk to each other and have this kind of conversation happen. But you bring up so aptly in this book that where that would have worked in the past, it's not working now.

[Giano Caldwell]

That's absolutely right. And to set up the book for everyone. The Day My Brother was Murdered. My journey through America's violent crime crisis. It goes back to the day my brother was murdered in Chicago on June 24, 2022, when my life changed forever, when my innocent teenage baby brother, who was not the target, was murdered in Chicago. So I went back at that day and I saw that there was about 150 people murdered across the nation. And I wanted to tell that story from the perspective of many people who experienced a similar tragedy as my family. People like James, as you mentioned, he was an army veteran, he had PTSD. He would often go to the park at 1 or 2 in the morning. And on that very day, June 24, he runs into these kids and he tells them to go home and they beat them to death with a traffic cone in Philadelphia. Or people like Katherine. Katherine was a wife, a mom, a grandmother, 64 year old chemical engineer who went, left work on June 24th, and there was a shootout that took place on a freeway. A drug deal had went wrong and these guys began to shoot at each other. And she became a victim of violent crime that day. And there's so many others in this book that I write about, but I also write about the solutions to the crime crisis in America. Things like funding the police, not defunding the police, simple things like not pushing soft on crime policies. We should have a law and order country. It has to be that way. Because you cannot have a free society without law and order. You cannot.

[Tudor Dixon]

And you are talking directly. You are talking directly as someone who has been affected by this. That's what I want to make it clear that people like Mamdani who are talking about this, they've never experienced this kind of crime, and they likely never will experience this kind of crime. You write in the book, and we talked about this on the podcast, that you think if 1,000 white kids a year were dying in a city, that that would be on the news every night. And I have to agree with you. And I say that because if you watch some of these videos coming out of this guy in New York, he has this video where he says, you know, we're going to get rid of these old housing units. And the landlords will have the opportunity, the people will have the opportunity to buy out the landlords. But I really believe that they have forgotten these communities. They don't live there. They want the communities to destroy themselves. And then they'll go in and they'll push everybody out.

[Giano Caldwell]

And that's oftentimes what happens in these, these kind of scenarios. And you got to think with this guy, the socialist Democrat, who thinks that he can raise taxes on all of these people and that they're going to stick around there. No, he's going to be Florida's greatest realtor, which is where I live. This is where a lot of the billionaires and the multimillionaires and those who make multiple six figures or even a six figure income are coming. They're coming to Florida because it's safe, it's secure. You got Ron DeSantis as the governor. We have leadership here. What he's advocating for is the literal destruction of New York City as we know it. Wall street will not exist. And that's why a lot of powerful players in the city of New York, I believe, are going to push back against them. So I'm not 100% certain that he's going to make it, even though we know that typically whoever wins the Democratic primary in New York City is the person who becomes the mayor. This guy is scary for a lot of people, especially those working class and middle class families. And you can tell that because if you were making $50,000 and under and you voted in that election, you rejected him by 20 points. This is a disaster for New York City and the Democratic Party.

[Tudor Dixon]

Well, you know, it's funny that you bring up the billionaires because he said that he wants to get rid of all billionaires, which he will not, because he's gonna take their money. Because if you're a billionaire, you can live wherever you want. You're not gonna stay in New York City. And I agree with you, he will crush the city. But I also want people to remember that people that become billionaires, they don't shoot up that ladder all alone. They do that with massive amounts of jobs below them that are building that empire up. And they are job creators. So when a billionaire decides, hey, this doesn't work for me, he doesn't leave all the jobs behind, he takes the jobs with him. So New York will have big organizations that leave because, like I said, billionaires don't just poof, become billionaires. They become billionaires because they've created jobs, massive amounts of jobs.

[Giano Caldwell]

And to Your point? The perfect example to your illustration is Ken Griffin, who was in Illinois, major billionaire who left Chicago because of crime. He said he couldn't recruit good talent to the city because the crime issue was so bad. Now he's in Florida. He has a. He's building this wonderful corporate office building right in Miami, right not too far from where I live. And he has a place in Palm Beach. So to your exact point, they leave and then there's nothing there to fill that void oftentimes. So what do you do? People are laid off from jobs. It has a direct and indirect economic impact. And then the leadership has to say, okay, we're going to have to raise taxes on everybody to fill that void. But they already done silly things with the money. But why would any taxpayer want to spend more money in that city? So that then again, leaves a hole for more and more people to leave the city of New York.

[Tudor Dixon]

And here we are, back to gun violence. We are back to gun violence, absolutely, yes. Because you have seen it in Chicago, I have seen it in Detroit. You have these businesses leave. I mean, Detroit, my gosh, over the weekend we had a mother who went to the park. I mean, so similar to James Story, but she was with her six kids and the youngest of which was four. Was four. But drive by shooting. There's the little boy gets shot in the back. She loses her baby. And yet people are saying, why aren't we getting more businesses in the state of Michigan? Why aren't more businesses going to Illinois? Because first of all, the crime is so bad. And secondly, if you can't go to a park with your kid, there's no way I'm going to live there 100%.

[Giano Caldwell]

And as I write in my new book, the Day My Brother Was Murdered, My Journey Through America's Violent Crime Crisis, about baby Cecilia, who was five months old, four days from six months old. She was in the backseat of a vehicle with her brother, three years old, and her parents up front, they thought they heard fireworks and then they looked. She was bleeding. She was murdered on June 24th. You know, we know how bad it is. So in this book, I wanted to talk about solutions to the violent crime in America as well. So I talked to people like Sean Hannity, I talked to people like Dr. Drew Penske about the mental health crisis in our country and its contributions to crime. I talked to John Walsh from America's Most Wanted. Nicole Parker, former FBI, works at Fox News as well. Faith leaders, educators. Because this is a problem that is going to be have to will have to be solved by an entire community of people. We've relied on the politicians for a very long time to try to get it done. And we still should be putting pressure on them and voting for the right people in office and lobbying for tougher penalties for crime. But there is also a fatherless challenge here where the family structure has been impacted and kids need to be, you know, for things they need to do, punished if they're doing something wrong. There needs to be accountability there. There has to be accountability. When it comes to the education system in America, they cannot say the test, which. I'm not sure if people heard the story, but there was a school district, I believe it was, that said the actual tests were racist. Like, it's insanity. So they're passing kids along without them actually being proficient, leading to a deficit in our education and the competition of us as a country. These are major problems that need to be solved. And in the book the Day My Brother Was Murdered, My Journey Through America's Violent Crime Crisis, I provide solutions to the damage that has been done to our country.

[Tudor Dixon]

And because if you are uneducated, then the 99% of the time you end up in a criminal situation. I mean, that's just the reality, and that's the responsibility of politicians. But I wanted to bring you on because everybody who listens to the show understands politics. They understand what is happening behind the scenes on things like this, but they may not have lived it themselves. And that's why this book is so powerful. Because I have traveled across the state of Michigan when I was campaigning, people would say to me, you didn't live my situation, so you can't know it. And they're right. You can't know it. But this book takes you in a place of knowledge that really you can't get anywhere else. So quickly tell people where they can get it.

[Giano Caldwell]

You can get it at Barnes and Nobles, Amazon.com Walmart, target just about any place that books are sold. And I encourage people to support our efforts at the Caldwell Institute for public [e-mail] where we fight back against jurisdictors, funded progressive prosecutors, and certainly follow me on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook and TikTokianoCaldwell. G I A N N O Caldwell C A L D W E L L thank you so much for having me today.

[Tudor Dixon]

Thank you for being on. And it's a good read. I mean, it really is. It's very. It draws you in. There's nothing. There's no lulls in the book. You're in a, in a news story all the time. So it's one of those books where you really not only are you learning, but you're incredibly engaged. So Giano, thank you so much for being on today. For the rest of you out there, make sure you call in right now because we're going to take, we're going to take callers listener calls right after this break. It's 800-282-2882. Again, that's 800-282-282. Call in now. We'll talk to you right after this break.

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[Giano Caldwell]

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[Giano Caldwell]

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[Tudor Dixon]

Welcome back to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. I'm tutor Dixon. The guys are off today, so I'm filling in. I've got Kyle Olson here with me, and we are live coming to you from Grand Rapids Wood Radio Studios. We're ready to take some calls, and it looks like we've got George in Maine, so let's pull George in.

[Giano Caldwell]

Thank you, Michael. And letting us share our traditions for the Independence Day with you.

[Tudor Dixon]

Okay. Yeah, let's go.

[Giano Caldwell]

Right. Well, if the. The thing I've been doing since my son was 7 years old, he's 36 now, is before the food goes on the grill, I'll read the first two paragraphs of the Declaration of Independence.

[Tudor Dixon]

I love it. I love it.

[Giano Caldwell]

Groans. You know, the ones that start with when the course of human events. And then the second paragraph, we always. Truth to be self evident. You know, it's been a lot of years, and now I got four grandkids that that's being passed on to. And I've seen this tradition spread to his friends.

[Tudor Dixon]

Good.

[Giano Caldwell]

And it really puts it. Yeah, it really puts it in context. This is what we're about. The history of the.

[Tudor Dixon]

Well, that's what. That's what we will have other people do that. George, thank you so much for calling. We're going to try to pull a couple more people in. We're going to pull in Kevin. Kevin is in Ohio and he wants to talk about New York City. Kevin, what do you have to tell us about socialism in New York?

[Giano Caldwell]

Hey, I'd just like to say that as a conservative that loves this country, I think this mayoral election is a gift to us. You know, let's let the world watch New York liberals swim in their own sewage. They're going to make a mess of this, and it's going to be a wonderful lesson for the world.

[Tudor Dixon]

It is. It is a wonderful lesson. I think it's hard for us to watch, though.

[Kyle Olson]

Kyle, what do you think it is hard to watch, But I think you're right, because what it's doing is it's forcing people like Marcy Kaptor in Ohio to take a side. And she has to decide, is she going to support the Democrat nominee, the socialist, or not.

[Tudor Dixon]

Thank you, Kevin. Thanks for calling in. We'll try to get Eric in really quick. Eric is Eric in Florida asks if socialism is great, why isn't everybody doing it? Or why is it mandatory? Why do you have to do it? Eric, come on in.

[Giano Caldwell]

Right. It's mandatory, enforced by brown shirts. Did you ever think you see Scott Jennings having him arguing over socialism or communism when the only difference is who owns what? And I'd like to ask this guy in New York City, if you defund the police, who are you going to send to take my gun? Is it going to be Beto o' Rourke? Oh, not him anymore.

[Tudor Dixon]

Thank you. Thank you, Eric in Florida. Thank you guys all for calling in. We also had Donald. We're not going to get to Donald because we're going to end up having to go to a break here. But I want to say something to Donald because he was asking if he'll be able to vote for me again. He's in Michigan. You know what? I'm going to have an announcement in the next couple weeks, Donald, so maybe you can call back in at the end of the next hour. But we are going to have to head to a break soon. I want you to stay tuned, though, because we're going to be back. We're going to have some good information on what is happening in the P. Diddy trial. You are going to want to tune in. We're going to have Yakuboyans. We're going to have Linda McMahon talking about that breakthrough answer she has on what she's doing with girl sports. So stay tuned. We'll be right back. This is an iHeart podcast.