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Clay Travis
Monday I'm sorry, Tuesday edition Tuesday edition first party weekend on on Clay and Buck here. So we are, we are rocking and I promise we do know what day it is. We've got a lot to talk about. Obviously, a massive primary showdown in Texas. Cornyn v. Paxton. This is the May 26th Texas primary runoff on or in the mix? So this is for that GOP Senate nomination. We have for your listening enjoyment, Ken Paxton joining the show at the bottom of this hour. And then Cornyn will be joining the show in the third hour. So you will hear from both of these these primary heavyweights throwing a lot of money at Clay. This is a $100 million primary that we are watching unfold wild. So the yeah, this has gotten, this has gotten to be very big stakes. As we all know. There is a MAGA Trump versus the old guard old way of GOP stuff that is in the mix here. And we will make sense of all that for you. We also have some updates on the Iran situation. Clay and I both joined over the weekend to talk to a senior administration official about what's going on here. And here is the latest. We are told that a deal is almost entirely done. But we are also told that if the deal does not get done, military force is still on the table. So I could we actually, Clay, you know, why don't we dive into this here for a moment? Cause I want to get your take on it. Marco Rubio, this is Cut four. He is promising everyone there will not be a bad deal accepted by this administration, a weak deal, et cetera.
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Clay Travis
So Clay, he is assuring everyone that there is not going to be some deal that we all know what the talking point will be is worse than the Obama jcpoa. That's not going to happen. There is the acceptance of the deal in the implementation phase to take into account. What do you think about the state of play? We got the Texas primary runoff, we got the Iran Hormuz showdown. How are things looking from your angle?
Buck Sexton
So you and I, we can say this. On Saturday were briefed by a senior White House official that all of you would know. I'll just say that. And walked through in pretty significant detail exactly what their position is and what is occurring behind the scenes. Uh, that was on Saturday, for over an hour, answering any question, kind of giving a sense of what's going on behind the scenes and what I would say. The, the perspective of the White House is twofold. One, the Strait of Hormuz has to open and there will be no tolls that are allowed to be taking place. And to. The nuclear dust has to be given up by Iran and, or seized by the United States in order for Iran to really get any of the dollars that are currently frozen back into their economic system. Would you say that's a pretty concise explanation of the perspective? One of the big challenges right now is the Iranian decision makers, whomever they are. Uh, the, the. The senior official said you basically have to communicate with them with carrier pigeons because they're so afraid that they're going to get blown up. Now, who exactly those individuals are, all of that is out there. And you and I were just on with Mark Halperin on his show a few minutes ago, and that'll be up a little bit later. But my perspective on this is that when oil and gas prices come back down, and they will come back down when the Strait of Hormuz opens up, I think what's likely to happen is we're going to get the free flow of oil and gas started again. Gas prices will come back down. Theoretically, that will be beneficial for the midterms. And then after the midterms, Trump may have to pivot back and mow the grass. As you have been saying. Now, the Iranians, you, you worked in the Middle east, in the CIA, it seems to me some people just like to negotiate. I would say I'm one of the people who kind of likes to negotiate. I like to work on deals. I think the Iranians like negotiating. They don't actually like maintaining their agreements or being upheld to what they negotiate for. But I think the process of negotiation they seem to genuinely enjoy. And I think they just want to negotiate for as long as they can and run out the clock on President Trump and roll the dice that in January of 2029 they're going to get somebody more amenable to their negotiation posture. And who knows, they may. I think that's kind of where we're headed. So unless you're going. And look, my argument is, if I were Trump, if Trump said, clay, what should I do? I would seize the nuclear dust. And some of you are going to say that's crazy. I, I would send troops in, I would cordon off an area. I would basically say we are taking all of this nuclear dust and we are seizing it and we're pulling it out. Now, I don't have the particulars on how long that would take or how seasonal that all is, but I don't think you've been consistent on this and I agree with you. I don't think Iran's just going to say, oh, here you go, here's back our nuclear dust. So if you want it, you have to seize it. And I think all of this is sort of a never ending negotiation. So I would just say, screw it, we're going in and we're taking all of this. They have no ability to stop us from doing it. We're going to yank all of this, all of this nuclear dust. And that to me represents a conclusion to the entire process.
Clay Travis
So there's the short term way to win this thing and the long term way, the short term way is what we've been talking about, which is the strait is finally, you know, calling it open is different than it being open, as in the free flow of commerce. The ships are going in and out. Up to this point, I might add, a lot of what has been considered a ship passing through has been exiting from the strait. You need ships to go back into the strait. So that's.
Buck Sexton
And then which, by the way, nobody is talking about that.
Clay Travis
Yes.
Buck Sexton
Think about what we've just gone through who is sending their ships back in. That is my concern. Getting out, like at some point in time. Yeah. But if you got your ship out, if you were a merchant, if you owned one of these ships, would you ever risk that it could get held up for two months again? There's no way I'm sending a ship back in. That becomes the challenge. Getting them out is one thing I think that can be resolved. But getting them back in, I think, is a huge part of the story.
Clay Travis
Just, just so we're clear on, on what we would hold for our definitions or, or how we would view this. If it's open for business at the Strait of Hormuz is open, it means ships are coming in and out, coming in and out. Okay. At the numbers they were before. Saying it's open means nothing. And unfortunately, we've had to learn that the hard way you can say it's open. If they're not going, it's not open because they do not have trust in this. Apparently right now, Clay, about 1500 ships are bottled up in the, in the Persian Gulf because of the Strait of Hormuz crisis. So 1500 oil tankers, container ships, all of that stuff. So that's a lot. And we still have to get through that. If we do, then this is, this is the short term win, which is just we need the gas prices to come down. This is Kevin Hassett. This is Cut six, Council of Economic Advisors, National Economic Advisors, Place six.
Buck Sexton
As soon as the straits are open, then energy prices are going to plummet like nothing you've ever seen before. There's so much oil sitting in the Gulf, there's so much excess capacity in Saudi Arabia and uae that prices should drop very, very quickly. And since core inflation has just barely budged because of this temporary circumstance, then I expect that the big positive supply
Ken Paxton
shock is going to overpower oil much
Buck Sexton
sooner than people know. So think about it. We've got a capital spending boom. We've got a labor supply boom boom because of the no tax on tips. We've got an AI boom. You know, stock market is celebrating, and the stock market is celebrating because profitability and productivity are so high. So those are things that put downward pressure on prices. So I think very, very much that the bond market understands that you're starting to see it, and that's why we're so bullish on the economy.
Clay Travis
So if that is correct, then things in the short term are, I think, going to look very good and it won't be a big drag in the midterms. For people who are saying, why would it be a drag in the midterms? Keep in mind you're looking at, call it a 5% of the overall electorate that even would vote in the midterms, which is already a smaller, a much smaller percentage than those who are actually eligible to vote. What do they care about people? All the data shows this. The people that you can either have show up for Republicans or not have show up for Democrats or not. They care about prices, they care about gas. So the fact that all, all the rest of us who have voted for Trump multiple times and are on board for the agenda, that doesn't change the political reality that we need that price. Clay, to go down. The longer term issue of Iran will never have a nuclear weapon. I hate to be the one that points this out. Never say never. You got the same regime and they're going to get rich again, they're going to have oil again. This is all going to come back to where we were eventually, but we can handle that. I don't think that changes the game for the Republicans in the midterm election cycle. I do think, though, the notion that Iran is going to sign up for a deal that is enforceable, that would truly prevent them from ever getting a nuclear weapon, I don't know what that deal even would look like. I'm not sure that's even a thing you could.
Buck Sexton
Here's a question for you. Do you think Trump would have sent boots on the ground in if Iraq never happened? How much of not trying to overthrow the Iranian regime, leave aside the challenges that would come from that has nothing to do with that and everything to do with the failures of Iraq and Afghanistan already in the Middle east, where that has taken it off the table in a way that it might not have been, but for the failures before.
Clay Travis
Yeah, absolutely. That is, that is hanging over all of this, as I think it should, I might add. I think that that is. It would be particularly insane to say, you know what, this time, boots on the ground to transform a Middle Eastern society is going to work out great. But Clay, also keep in mind, going back to 2016, that election cycle, how did Trump differentiate himself from the rest of the GOP frontrunners at that point in time, including Jeb Bush, who no one even thinks about anymore. Iraq war. Trump said it was a dumb war, we should never have done it. It was a terrible war. And now he can't be the guy that says, you know what's going to be an awesome war? The Iran war. That war is going to really kick ass.
Buck Sexton
I really paid attention to Trump because I was not an, I was an anti Iraq war guy. I thought it was a total before it even started. Like I remember, by the way, almost everybody was in favor of the Iraq war. Democrats now try to pretend like they weren't. But Hillary Clinton voted in favor of it. The only guy who didn't. You remember, Buck.
Ken Paxton
Obama.
Buck Sexton
Obama actually was against the Iraq war. And I think that was a, something that was, that he was able to point to and say, I'm different than all these other guys who are just part of the mainstream establishment and go along. But yeah, look, I think we need to go ahead and get the Strait of Hormuz open, get the price of oil and gas back down. I will say as we go to break here, Buck, big New York Times story and I felt like I was on an island talking about this. You know, what country has made the most money from the rise of oil and gas by a substantial America. $50 billion America has made exporting oil and gas. People talk about Russia, 15 billion. We have tripled what Russia was able to do. No country has benefited more from the rise of oil and gas prices than the United States. Something to keep in mind in the back of your head there. This is not 1990 when, when the Middle east got shut down. The places that suffer are the Middle east and Asia. But the United States, our oil and gas companies are printing money right now.
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Buck Sexton
at bkfsea.com welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We also want to make sure that many of you had safe and memorable Memorial Day weekends and took time to honor those who have made the ultimate sacrifice so that we can have the freedoms that many take for granted on a day to day basis. And I saw a lot of awesome, fantastic, really cool content including Buck I don't know if you saw this story A widow posted asking this is the good side of social media. A widow posted on social media asking if anybody was going to be at Arlington Cemetery. Did you see this? Buck Cheryl Ann posted Last night I made a simple request on X. I asked if anybody visiting Arlington National Cemetery for Memorial Day would stop by her husband's grave and leave a photo for our family. What happened next honestly coughed me caught her off guard. By this afternoon, dozens of Americans from all walks of life had made the walk to Section 60 to visit Alan Shaw, his Allen W. Shaw's grave and including Tulsi Gabbard, many different individuals out there, they loaded down this individual's grave and several people also offered to fly her to Arlington Cemetery so that she could visit her husband's grave. And again, her name was Cheryl Ann at Cheryl and to you can go look at this if you just want something cool, something positive, something profoundly kind that came out of a social media post. And so I know many of you probably saw that and I thought it was evocative of a very positive response that I saw in many ways. Now you all probably also saw the Democrat Party official account posted pictures of the 13 soldiers who have died so far in the Iran war and blame President Trump for their deaths. And even Democrats called out the post as just indefensible, including Senator Tammy Duckworth. And eventually they took it down. So as with most things on social media Buck, you could find reasons to be very pleased and also very upset.
Clay Travis
Like for example, the mayor of Minneapolis using Memorial Day to commemorate, you know where this is going, George Floyd, the criminal fentanyl addict who died of a heart attack from fentanyl overdose while in police custody, wrongly prosecuted as police brutality. So why don't we talk more about that a little bit here in a second as well as the California situation, the the race going on out there.
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Clay Travis
in here to Clay and Buck. We are joined now by the attorney general of the great state of Texas. Ken Paxton is with us now. AG Paxton, appreciate you making the time. I hear there's a primary going on today. Some people are saying it's the biggest primary of the primary so far. Tell us, you know we're having you on, we're having your opponent on because we run a fair shop here. Tell us why you're the guy for Texas, why you should take this Senate seat.
Ken Paxton
Well, look, John's been, he's running for a fifth term for U.S. senate. No one's ever done that Texas history. That would be 30 years in the Senate. He's in an office for 42 years. I was in college and I'm 63 still in office. Every person I've talked to, whether it's one person or thousands, for the last 14 months I've asked one question. What is what good thing is John accomplished for the state? And you know what? Not a single voter, whether it's his supporters or not, has ever answered that question. And then I challenged John take any two week period that I've been in office, that I've been an attorney general except for Christmas and Thanksgiving, and I guarantee I've accomplished more in any two week period than he's accomplished in 42 years. And one of the only things he's accomplished are bad things, which is going you know, siding with Joe Biden on the restricting Second Amendment rights, siding with Joe Biden on bringing Afghan refugees to this state with no vetting. But on the other hand, going against President Trump on the border, being for open borders, for amnesty, and also, guess what? Telling us in 2016 that the President was an albatross around our neck. And of course, now he's using the exact same line. I mean, it's kind of funny, actually, the exact words that he used in 2016 to describe Trump. He's now describing me that way. And of course, and then 2024, he also said that the President's Day was done, we should not support Trump. And he all of a sudden became a Trump fan as soon as I got in a race against him.
Buck Sexton
What do you expect? I imagine you're confident, and what do you expect the results to be? Today? We encourage everybody in Texas to get out and vote. And what did President Trump's endorsement mean to you? When did you know it was going to happen? Can you take us through what that process was like?
Ken Paxton
Well, first of all, you know, I'm going to encourage people to get out and vote for me. Just vote. And bring your friends. Please bring your friends. Because, you know, voter turnout's pretty low for a runoff. So the Trump endorsement, I think, is obviously the gold standard. I've never seen an endorsement matter more since I been paying attention to politics, which is since I was in. Since Ronald Reagan ran against Gerald Ford. So I don't, you know, I'm honored to have it. I have so much respect for him. I've been a supporter of his. I went to his trial when nobody else went to try to get other people to go. I was one of two elected officials to show up at Mar A Lago for his announcement back when everybody thought DeSantis was going to win. And no other elected official showed up other than me and Troy Nels. Congressman Nels, I fought with him in the election Integrity staff and filed a lawsuit against four states. John Cornyn can't say any of that. He can't say any of that. But I appreciate the president. He called me on Tuesday, said, I think I'm going to do something you're really like. And then we start talking about endorsements. And I said, you're right, Mr. President. I'm really going to like that. Thank you.
Clay Travis
So the knock that I see whenever somebody. And, you know, there. There are people out there, obviously, as you know, you're in a contested primary and they're going to have. There's Some people who, as you know, Mr. A.G. some people love you, some people are going to vote for the other guy. They're always saying he's got baggage. This is, this is the word that gets attached to you by the people that aren't pro. Paxton, I want to let you address that. Does it matter? What is the baggage? Should anyone care about this? Why are you somebody who should just be able to say, look, guys, I'm the one for you. I'm the one that should fill the Senate seat.
Ken Paxton
Let me say, first of all, this is the same argument they made against Donald Trump. And it's the same people. It's the Karl Rose of the world, it's the John Corns of the world who made the same argument against Donald Trump. And it was because of all the legal stuff and the lawfare. Guess what? That's what happens when you're out fighting for the, the people you represent. Yes, I've had lawfare against me. I've had many, many, many, many different things. Guess what? I won them all, just like Donald Trump did. So, you know, John Cornyn forgets to mention that I won all these legal battles and that his team was part of creating them. Karl Rove was in the middle of all of that text messages to prove it. So, yeah, it's lovely for them to say all this baggage that they created with false charges that were unsubstantiated and that they didn't win. And guess what? The president was in the same boat. What people should really care about is back to my message. What have you done for the people of Texas when you have served them? And the answer for John is I've done nothing good for you. I listened to Mitch McConnell, but I wasn't there for you. I was not there for Trump. I'm not there for his, for his method. I couldn't pass the Save America Act. I wasn't interested in it. I said when Ken got in the race and challenged me, yes, I care about it now. But guess what? I didn't get it done. I went on vacation. So that's the message. I've actually gotten things done. Just like I said, pick any two weeks more done than he's done in 42 years.
Buck Sexton
All right, I think you're going to be the nominee. But again, everybody can go vote. How radical is James Talarico? You're going to move from running in a primary, I think, starting today to running in the general tomorrow. You know, your opponent Democrats have nominated James Talarico. The argument against you is he can beat you. Your response to that would be what?
Ken Paxton
Well, look, I won three statewide races. That's certainly the message John Corn has put out there. But Diaz, if you look at my. He goes, I've. John was saying how he won his last race by 10. Guess what? I won my last rate by 10. I've won three statewide races. Second of all, the polling doesn't indicate John does any better. As a matter of fact, some of the polling indicates I do better against Calarico because I can motivate the base to get out and vote and John can't. So there is that. So he can make this message up, but it's not a true message. This guy Talaricook, he belongs in California at best. His views are so radical and so unbelievably weird. Once we highlight just a couple of his clips, I do not think Texans, even many Democrats, are going to go for this idea that God is non binary and that what James thinks about in his spare time is, is, you know, transgender kids. The very. He says very strange things that I don't think Texans are ready for.
Clay Travis
Strange is a good word to describe it. We're talking to Ken Paxton, the Attorney General of Texas. He is running. Today is primary day. Texans. We got a lot of Texans listening. Primary day for that GOP Senate seat, which is. It's been a very expensive race, $100 million spent on this one. And Ken, if I can ask you, if you get this Senate seat, which is certainly looking like a very solid possibility, maybe probability, what is top of the agenda for you? What do you bring to it, to. To the Senate side of the equation, given that you've spent years now as the AG and working on the legal side of the state of Texas, you know, to be a legislature, what, a legislator, rather, what's the top of your agenda?
Ken Paxton
So, first of all, there has been almost 150 million spent, most of it by him coming from D.C. not me, because they have huge fundraising advantages. Legally, they're allowed to raise more unlimited versus me being limited as far as what I want to accomplish. The number one thing is the thing that I challenged John Cornyn on because he had never delivered on anything I said right after the primary, I said, if you will. If you will ask the Save America act, the most important item of President Trump's agenda and in my opinion, the most important item of the last several decades, because if we do not protect our elections from fraud, which we, which we have with mail in dogs, illegal voting and no photo id, if we do not protect it. We are going to lose the country because they're going to rig the elections. They've already done it in most of the Democratic states, if not all of them. And I challenged, John, get this one thing done. Just give me one. Something very important to the president, something very important to me. And what did he do? He went on vacation for two weeks, came back for a week, went back on vacation. I've never heard about it since. They just. He loved to say that he was for it, which he hadn't been prior to this until this became an issue in the election. He was never about election integrity, but suddenly he cared about it, supposedly. But you never see actual, actual delivery on the things that we need.
Buck Sexton
You everybody get out and vote. As you said, you want everybody to get out and vote for you. We're talking to Ken Paxton. There is talk that people in the Senate are upset at Trump for endorsing you. I'm sure you've seen those reports. What's your reaction to the people in the Senate that are upset that you may become their colleague?
Ken Paxton
Look, I love it that they want to pick the senator for Texas. It's really none of their business. It's the people of Texas. Right. I know these senators think that they, you know, cover the world. They don't. They cover their state. And they are responsible for their state, and they're responsible for governing in a way that's good for America. But they do not have the right to tell Texas voters who they're going to vote for. And I know that they think they do, and I know that the establishment thinks that they do. And I know that that's the message and that's why they send all the money here to try to convince people, vote with Mitch McConnell, don't vote with us. Well, guess what? Texans are going to tell them something different and they can be mad, but that's just, that's just the way our constitutional republic works. The people of Texas decide this. Not a Sen. Another state.
Clay Travis
Give you the last word here. AG Paxton, as your fellow Texans are going to vote today to decide who should represent the Republican Party on that in that critical Senate seat. Last word. Last 30, 40 seconds or so. Take it away. Why are you the guy.
Ken Paxton
Look, the people of Texas, special place to be from. We need the country. We have an opportunity to lead the country in one of two ways. One is to say, yeah, you can govern however you want. John Corn. You can not be for us. You can be with Joe Biden, get congratulated by him. You can be against the president, President Trump, as much as you want to be. But we're going to still elect you. We don't care. Just keep doing what you're doing. You can stay there forever. Or the message, and guess what, the rest of the country is going to do the same thing. Or we can send a message. No. You've had your 42 years in office, your 24 years in the Senate. We're not going to let you do this to us anymore. We're not going to let Washington make the decision. The people at Texas are going to make the decision and we're going to lead the way to tell the rest of the country this is how things are going to go. And every senator is going to hear that message, one or the other.
Buck Sexton
He's Ken Paxton. He is on the ballot today. Texans get out and vote runoff election underway. Thank you, sir.
Ken Paxton
Thank you guys. Have a great day. Thanks for having me on for sure.
Buck Sexton
We'll talk a little bit more about that Texas runoff. Also, the attorney general seat that Ken Paxton is vacating also has a runoff going on today. We talked with Chip Roy. There is a big decision to be made in that case as well. And we'll give John Cornyn, who is the incumbent senator, the opportunity at 2:30 Eastern, 1:30 in the Central time zone of Texas to make the case for his reelection as well. But in the meantime, business insurance a requirement for most companies, but how many different brokers do you have? It is frustrating. If you own a small business, there is so much paperwork. You guys know exactly what I'm talking about. I have owned a small business. The amount of paperwork to get your business to maintain your business and a lot of things that you don't want to have to worry about, like insurance. How many different insurance brokers do you have for how many different processes out there? And what the heck do those insurance contracts even say? What do they cover? You can find out for yourself how to simplify everything with Super Sure. They have a fine print facts tool that will translate the legal jargon into plain English for you and you can find out how much money you could save and just get easier answers. You got nothing to lose. Why not go right now to super sure.com clay and get a full report on current policies with no obligations. That's Super Sure.com Clay one powerful platform. All your policies in one place that Super Sure.com Clay paid for by Super Sure Insurance Agency, LLC, a licensed insurance agency.
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back in Clay and Buck rolling through the Tuesday edition of the program. We hope all of you had great Memorial Days and Memorial Day weekends. And I was staring that great story about the woman who so many people went to her husband's grave at Arlington National Cemetery. But Buck, as we were about to have Ken Paxton on and certainly the big runoff election going on in Texas, I believe either Ken Paxton or John Cornyn, whomever Texans select as their nominee, I think will beat James Talarico. And they, I think they'll do it comfortably. And if you disagree with that, that's certainly you're right. But I think Talarico will go down. In fact, Buck, I even put, I talked sometimes with Buck off air on Polymarket and Kalshi. You can go look at the, at the marketplace and Kalshee is up and running. And I put in a bunch of different political forecasts with the prediction markets that they have. And one of those is that Texas, we will see the Republican Party win. But Buck, you were mentioning the Jacob Fry who is the mayor of Minneapolis on Memorial Day, sharing his George Floyd take. And I also saw the George Floyd autopsy as it does every single anniversary of George Floyd's death. I don't understand how we have anybody in prison for the murder of George Floyd when it seems quite clear he died of a fentanyl overdose. And certainly it's impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he didn't die of a fentanyl overdose.
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He's, he's a, he's a human sacrifice to the wokeness gods. The wokeness demons. That's actually what this is. Derek Chauvin's a political prisoner. It's a disgrace. He has been stabbed, I believe in prison. He's under constant mortal threat because they have just created this false avatar of Derek Chauvin as the racist white cop who murders a black man for no reason. It's horrifying. I would advocate if Donald Trump had it in his power. I don't care what, what the reaction would be. I would say he should pardon Derek Chauvin. The problem is it's state charges and so the president does not have the authority to, to free him. So really all you're doing then is kicking the hornets nest without even getting the guy out. Although some people advocate for the gesture regardless, because it's, it's so preposterous. Clay, they, they locked up that other guy. Officer, I think his name is Officer like Two or two. I can't remember.
Buck Sexton
You know there were two other guys right who were just standing off to the side that were put in PR well for merely being bystanders to the entire process. And again I, there was a I think end wokeness asked over the weekend what is the peak woke video that you can share. I don't know if you saw some of these videos.
Clay Travis
Two thou I was right. I too thou was the guy's name Clay. Who was. Who was hell, he spent, he spent years in prison for just being there. He has no way of knowing exactly. He thinks that the guy by the way they. They excluded from the jury being able to see that was a, that was a taught hold. That was. It was taught to them to do this. And then they just threw him under the bus. They just threw the guy under the bus because people saw a video and we had to have a national freak out about massive make believe racism and everyone has to, you know, bend the knee. And Nancy Pelosi because she cares so much about the plight of black people has, you know, the kente cloth around her shoulders which actually comes from a group in West Africa that did a lot of slave trade stuff and bad things. Anyway, put that aside. This is, this is the reality of America today is that we have seen extreme injustice in the name of racial justice and it needs to stop. And the fact that the mayor of Minneapolis on Memorial Day we all. Memorial Day is for people who died for their country in the armed forces. And he thinks it's a day to commemorate George Floyd. You have to be out of your mind.
Buck Sexton
All of Minnesota has lost its mind. Did you see the reports are Tim Walls showed up for the George Floyd Memorial skipped the Memorial Day memorial that he was supposed to speak at. That is what I saw reported team. We can verify if he ever showed up late at night but he was listed as a featured speaker spoke at the George Floyd event. As the governor of Minnesota did not speak at the event for Memorial Day. I think it just kind of shows the priorities and how lost so many people in the state of Minnesota have become. Speaking of lost, did you see the reaction to a football quarterback introducing Trump? We'll talk about it.
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Episode: Hour 1 – Texas Runoff and Iran Tensions
Date: May 26, 2026
Host: iHeartPodcasts
Summary Prepared By: Podcast Summarizer AI
This episode dives into two major topics dominating the news cycle: the high-stakes Texas GOP Senate runoff between Ken Paxton and John Cornyn, and the escalating tensions with Iran around the Strait of Hormuz and its nuclear ambitions. Hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton unpack the latest developments, offer insider perspectives from their direct communications with administration officials, and engage AG Ken Paxton in a lively interview about the runoff, Trump’s endorsement, and the stakes for Texas and the nation. The episode is marked by the hosts' signature blend of political insight, sharp opinion, and moments of pointed humor.
[03:22–06:07, 25:32–36:25, 41:13–41:56]
Historic Stakes & Record Spending:
Ken Paxton Interview Highlights:
"Every person I've talked to... I've asked one question: What good thing has John accomplished for the state? ...Not a single voter... has ever answered that question." [26:01 – Ken Paxton]
"I went to his [Trump's] trial when nobody else went... I fought with him in election integrity stuff and filed a lawsuit against four states." [27:44 – Ken Paxton]
"It's lovely for them to say all this baggage that they created... with false charges that were unsubstantiated and that they didn't win." [29:23 – Ken Paxton]
"His views are so radical and so unbelievably weird... I do not think Texans, even many Democrats, are going to go for this idea that God is non binary..." [31:07 – Ken Paxton]
"If we do not protect our elections... we are going to lose the country because they're going to rig the elections." [32:48 – Ken Paxton]
"It’s really none of their business. It’s the people of Texas." [34:27 – Ken Paxton]
Hosts' Predictions & Commentary:
[03:22–15:43, 10:28–14:32]
Insider Briefings:
Military on the Table:
Analysis of Iranian Negotiation Tactics:
"They don’t actually like maintaining their agreements or being upheld to what they negotiate for. But I think the process of negotiation they seem to genuinely enjoy." [06:33 – Buck Sexton]
"If I were Trump... I would seize the nuclear dust... we are taking all of this nuclear dust and we are seizing it and we’re pulling it out." [06:33 – Buck Sexton]
Impact on Oil Prices & U.S. Elections:
"There’s so much oil sitting in the Gulf... prices should drop very, very quickly." [12:17 – Kevin Hassett]
Skepticism About Lasting Solutions:
"The notion that Iran is going to sign up for a deal that is enforceable... I don’t know what that deal even would look like." [13:04 – Clay Travis]
Broader GOP/Military Context:
"It would be particularly insane to say... boots on the ground to transform a Middle Eastern society is going to work out great." [15:01 – Clay Travis]
[21:48–24:15, 41:13–43:51]
Viral Arlington Cemetery Story:
Democrats' Memorial Day Missteps:
George Floyd and “Peak Wokeness”:
“He’s a human sacrifice to the wokeness gods. The wokeness demons.” [42:55 – Clay Travis] “We have seen extreme injustice in the name of racial justice and it needs to stop.” [44:12 – Buck Sexton]
Ken Paxton on Establishment Politics:
“Every person I’ve talked to... I’ve asked one question: What good thing has John accomplished for the state? ...Not a single voter... has ever answered that question.”
[26:01 – Ken Paxton]
Buck Sexton on Iranian Negotiations:
“Some people just like to negotiate... The Iranians don’t actually like maintaining their agreements... but I think the process of negotiation they seem to genuinely enjoy.”
[06:33 – Buck Sexton]
Clay Travis on Energy Prices & Elections:
“They care about prices, they care about gas... The political reality is we need that price to go down.”
[13:04 – Clay Travis]
Ken Paxton on the Power of Trump's Endorsement:
“The Trump endorsement… is the gold standard. I’ve never seen an endorsement matter more since... Reagan ran against Gerald Ford.”
[27:44 – Ken Paxton]
Clay Travis on George Floyd Narratives:
“He’s a human sacrifice to the wokeness gods. The wokeness demons. That’s actually what this is... Derek Chauvin’s a political prisoner. It’s a disgrace.”
[42:55 – Clay Travis]
Buck Sexton on Social Media’s Paradoxes:
“As with most things on social media... you could find reasons to be very pleased and also very upset.”
[24:15 – Buck Sexton]
The episode maintains the hosts’ trademark blend of conservative political commentary, skepticism toward establishment politics, and pointed humor. Clay and Buck are opinionated and unapologetic, especially when engaging with contentious subjects like lawfare, the politicization of Memorial Day, and the legacy of George Floyd.
Listeners are presented with a front-row seat to the high drama of Texas GOP politics, an insider’s look at the ongoing Iran crisis, and a critique of current cultural narratives. The episode delivers not only news and interviews but also sharp perspective, galvanizing stories from social media, and unapologetic right-leaning analysis for those interested in the intersection of American politics, media narratives, and the future of the GOP.
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