Hour 1 - The Deadliest Stretch

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 1 – The Deadliest Stretch
Date: May 5, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into current hot-button issues surrounding the U.S. and global politics, focusing especially on high-stakes situations in the Middle East, U.S. primary elections, gas and oil prices, and escalating international tensions. Clay and Buck use their signature banter to break down the complexities—from Supreme Court drama and Democrat presidential candidates to practical implications for global shipping and American energy policy—while exploring the seriousness, risks, and occasional absurdities of the news cycle.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Political Updates and Judicial Drama

Timestamps: [02:46]–[06:37]

• Primary Elections:

  • Indiana and Ohio are voting; listeners in those states urged to cast their ballots.
  • Vice President J.D. Vance traveled to Ohio to vote.

• Tennessee Politics:

  • Tennessee holds a special legislative session on potentially adding a Republican congressional seat following changes to race-based redistricting ([02:47] Clay Travis).

• Supreme Court Tension:

  • Clay and Buck react to Justice Alito’s “slap down” of Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson over delaying redistricting maps ([04:00]–[04:54]).
  • Clay: “Basically everybody’s just fed up with Ketanji Brown Jackson. … She’s Biden’s final curse, the worst four-year administration that any of us have ever seen, in my opinion, in our lives.” ([04:15])

• Kamala Harris as Likely Nominee:

  • Speculation grows that Kamala Harris will be the Democratic nominee due to "machine" politics rather than candidate strength.
  • Buck: “It’s not a candidate, it’s a machine. The candidate doesn’t really matter… Kamala can be the nominee. … She’s a Democrat, she’s black, she’s a woman. They’ll make it happen.” ([05:57])

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2. Oil, Gas, and Middle East Shipping Crisis

Timestamps: [06:37]–[23:14]

• Oil and Gas Prices as Political Issue:

  • Crude oil futures recently hit ~$100, with a noted 5% daily drop ([06:37]–[07:34]).
  • Clay asserts: “The number one story going forward right now is, what is the price of oil and gas?” ([06:37])

• Strait of Hormuz Shipping Risks and Insurance Proposal:

  • Clay proposes U.S. government-backed insurance for non-Iranian ships navigating the Strait of Hormuz.
    • “If the United States said [we’ll insure the ships], the price of oil and gas would drop almost $20 overnight.” ([08:07])
  • Buck challenges whether insurance would incentivize crews to risk their lives:
    • “You need someone to pilot the ship, Clay. … Are you like, well, Lloyd’s of London has my back, so…?” ([09:59])
  • Clay counters: “If you pay people enough money, they will basically take a risk to do anything.” ([11:03])
  • Both hosts joke about “Deadliest Catch” style hazard pay and the real limits of such policies (Crab/Lobster banter, [11:34]).

• Shipping Crew Reluctance and Owner Risk:

  • Buck: “Who wants to be…there’s a reason we had to have this whole anti-piracy program off of Somalia.” ([11:55])
  • Clay’s focus: hazard pay might work to get ships out, but big question: “Who’s going to bring their ship back?” ([15:04])

Notable Quote

• “My solution for the insurance gets those ships out and gets the commerce moving out. I don’t know who’s going in. … Because I’m not taking my ship back in there.” — Clay Travis ([15:11])

• Trump on Ceasefire and Iranian Threats:

  • Trump claims Iran’s naval threat is diminished:
    • “Their navy is comprised of…little boats. … They’re fast, but they’re not fast like a missile. … Not one ship [broke our blockade] … they got their engine shot out.” ([13:20]/[14:07])

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3. Gas Prices, U.S. Oil Independence, and Trump Commentary

Timestamps: [21:33]–[23:14], [31:16]

• Trump on U.S. Oil Production:

  • Claims the market is adapting to U.S. oil:
    • “People are learning to buy oil from the United States.... I thought the market would go down 25%, and I was satisfied. … We cannot let [Iran] have a nuclear weapon. … Today it’s like at 102 [dollars], and that’s a very small price to pay….” ([21:59])

• Buck and Clay Analysis:

  • Buck: The U.S. energy independence enables bold moves—“This is what Drill Baby Drill has done. It’s created energy independence, largely for the United States.” ([23:07])

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4. Lighter Moments & Pop Culture: Fitness Tests and Animal Dangers

Timestamps: [24:14]–[31:16]; [34:47]–[35:10]

• Presidential Fitness Test at the White House:

  • Trump hosts kids doing sit-ups and pull-ups; Clay jokes about “fish-flopping Crossfit pull-ups.”
  • “There were lots of kids just hanging, just hanging there. But doing a pull up now...I don’t think most people can do a pull up.” — Clay ([25:44])

• Trump interacts with kids:

  • Asks a kid if he could take Trump in a fight:
    • “But you think you can take me in a fight? That would be embarrassing.” — Trump ([34:47])

• Swimming Shark Fears and “Deadliest Catch” Banter:

  • Clay considers backing out of an Alcatraz swim over shark fears; Buck ribs him:
    • “You told us you were going to swim Alcatraz this July… are you squiggling out of it already?” — Buck ([40:01])
    • Clay: “Yes.”
  • Discussion on animal dangers: sharks, crocodiles, and dangerous mammals, with vivid, comedic storytelling ([29:17]–[31:16]).

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5. Listener Engagement: Shipping Risk Call-Ins

Timestamps: [42:19]–[44:45]

• Caller Tom on Ship Insurance:

  • Explains Lloyd’s of London's historical approach and current refusal to insure ships amid heightened risk:
    • “In the 337 years of Lloyd’s of London ... this is the first time in history [they won’t insure ships in this way].” ([42:19])
  • Tom supports the U.S. government insurance proposal as practical, echoing Clay's point:
    • “The idea has legs… but the problem is, Lloyd ... is refusing to insure everybody going through there. That is the real issue. And I think ... nobody’s really talking about that.” ([43:21])

• Clay’s Response:

  • Suggests the U.S. could recoup costs via stabilized oil prices:
    • “The overall cost would immediately vanish in terms of the premium on oil and gas… we’d get back far more than we would be insuring, in my opinion.” ([44:26])

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Ketanji Brown Jackson:

  • “She’s Biden’s final curse. ... The lasting legacy ... is ultimately that we now have Ketanji Brown Jackson for the next 30 years.”
    — Clay Travis ([04:15])

• On Kamala Harris as nominee:

  • “She’s going to be the nominee because she has already begun the campaign.”
    — Clay Travis ([05:38])

• Trump on Iranian protest suppression:

  • "They want to protest, but they don’t have any guns. ... Very few people would be able to stand there and do it. ... They killed 42,000 people last month. 42,000 unarmed protesters." ([32:56])

• On shipping risks:

  • “You’re reminding me of ... when Longshanks is like, ‘Send in the Irish. The dead cost nothing.’ That’s you right now, buddy.”
    — Buck Sexton to Clay Travis ([34:06])

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Important Timestamps & Segments

• Primary elections and Supreme Court talk: [02:47]–[06:37]
• Oil/gas market & Hormuz insurance debate: [06:37]–[17:44]
• Trump’s Strait of Hormuz remarks: [13:15], [31:52]
• Gas prices discussion and Trump’s commentary: [21:33]–[23:14]
• Presidential fitness test and White House banter: [24:14]–[26:45], [34:47]
• Listener call on shipping insurance risks: [42:19]–[44:45]

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Tone & Style

A mix of sharp political analysis, jocular camaraderie, and frequent use of real-world and pop culture analogies (including "Deadliest Catch" and "Braveheart"). Hosts frequently rip on each other in good fun, keeping heavy topics accessible without minimizing their seriousness.

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Conclusion

Hour 1 of “The Deadliest Stretch” lives up to its name—blending breaking news from the campaign trail and Middle East with big-picture policy debates, all wrapped in pointed humor and lively debate. Clay and Buck’s dialogue on shipping risk, U.S. energy independence, and the risks and rewards of assertive foreign policy offers listeners plenty to chew on, punctuated by memorable Trump soundbites and crowd-pleasing side tangents.

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[Donald Trump]

Welcome.

[Clay Travis]

And it is the Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. Lots of different news stories to be following. As is always the case. President Trump speaking right now in the Oval Office. Already Pete Hegseth and General Kane have had a press conference at the Pentagon. We will fill you in with the absolute latest there. Indiana and Ohio are voting in primary season. So if you are in Indiana and or Ohio, then you need to get out and get your votes in. President Vice President J.D. vance Trust traveled to Ohio to get his primary votes cast this morning. Also footage of that. But, and, and by the way, the state of Tennessee, where I am, has begun a new special session to see whether or not they can add another Republican seat to the Tennessee delegation in the wake of the Louisiana Calais case which did away effectively with redistricting based on race. So that is underway. Just real.

[Buck Sexton]

Did you see the Alito slap down? Yeah, slap down of the Ketanji Brown Jackson. Maybe we can delay this map. 30 Alito's like it's unconstitutional. Why would we delay it? Because we want to have the unconstitutional map for the election.

[Clay Travis]

Anyway, I think it, I was thinking we'd have some fun with that at some point during the course of the program because it feels to me increasingly with every one of these filings that basically everybody's just fed up with Ketanji Brown Jackson. And it is Biden's final curse, the worst four year administration that any of us have ever seen, in my opinion, in our lives. And the lasting legacy of it, aside from all the inflation and all of the racial antagonism, is ultimately that we now have Ketanji Brown Jackson for the next 30 years. She's Biden's final curse.

[Buck Sexton]

Counterpoint, Mr. Clay Travis Democrats love her. They love this. They like having somebody who has the legal knowledge and skill of your average Mississippi. Now Trump deranged viewer. So they think this is great. They think it's probably Biden's best thing. Side note, and I probably should even bring this up, you see what Kamala's numbers are looking like these days.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, she's going to be the nominee.

[Buck Sexton]

This is so, this is so disappointing. This is so just because, because one, she's going to be the nominee. Two, you're going to end up being right on something which drives me completely insane. And I just, I can see this train slowly coming toward me right now. Clay's victory dance is she is going

[Clay Travis]

to be the nominee because she has already begun the campaign. The numbers that continue to come out reflect that she is substantially in the lead. Gavin Newsom has already begun to fade. Everybody was talking about how brilliant he was. Oh, he's doing all these different podcasts. His wife is crazy. California is a mess.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm going to try to regain some. Some analytic dignity here by pointing out that I violated one of my own precepts of the foundation of the Democrat Party these days that we learned during the Biden administration, Clay, which is that it's not a candidate, it's a machine. The candidate doesn't really matter. In fact, the candidate is a figurehead for the broader Democrat, you know, mechanisms to go into place. If I had thought about that, I would not have made a foolish bet with you about Kamala, because, of course, Kamala can be the nominee. It doesn't matter. She's a Democrat, she's black, she's a woman. They'll make it happen.

[Clay Travis]

That is, I think that is likely to be the case, unfortunately, as much as I wish it were not going to be the case. But I would say the. I think you probably sign off on this now. The number one story going forward right now is what is the price of oil and gas? Is that fair to be a rough proxy on? We've got record highs in the stock market, and I don't want to play into Democrat talking points and their obsession with the price of oil and gas, but I do think it's probably worthy of. Of analyzing right now as we speak. Crude oil futures, right around $100. They are coming down about 5% today as this news has continued to come out. Pete Hegseth says the ceasefire is not over. We expected some churn. Listen to cut one.

[Buck Sexton]

No, the ceasefire is not over.

[Clay Travis]

Ultimately, this is a separate and distinct project. And we expected there would be some. Some churn at the beginning which, which happened and we said we would defend

[Buck Sexton]

and defend aggressively, and we absolutely have.

[Clay Travis]

Iran knows that. And ultimately the President's going to make a decision whether anything were to escalate into a violation of a cease fire. Here's an idea bucket. I know the White House monitors this and they probably have discussed it somewhat. I think the. There is an argument and I will make it, and I believe it is actually a good argument. I think if President Trump went out and said the United States is going to ensure the fair transit of the ships in the Strait of Hormuz by actually giving insurance to all of the ship owners that are on this in the Strait of Hormuz. Let me explain what I mean by that that means if your ship gets hit and it goes under, the United States will help to pay the $100 million value of your ship and cargo. And some of you are going to say, well, I don't like the United States taking on this obligation. I would suggest to you that the price of oil and gas would drop almost $20 overnight if the United States said that and if the free flow of goods began again in the Strait of Hormuz, which means the cost of us making that insurance guarantee would actually be overwhelmingly paid for in the collapse of oil and gas prices. I think it would be a smart strategic move. It also then allies the United States on the side of commerce. And I think Buck automatically sort of labels Iran then as the terrorist actor, because if they are going to attack any of these ships, we have established we want free and fair passage of them. I would not include Iran in that. In that guarantee right now until the peace agreement happens. But every non Iranian flag ship, we can make the determination on it. We would provide insurance to. And free support for them to transit the straight of Hormuz. Crazy idea. Good idea.

[Buck Sexton]

Where.

[Clay Travis]

How do you assess it?

[Buck Sexton]

You need someone to pilot the ship, Clay? I don't think they care that much that there's insurance if they're worried they're going to get blown up or shot or cap.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, so you think. I think the pilots will go, oh, I think. You don't think so.

[Buck Sexton]

There was just a South Korean vessel attacked, what, in the last 48 hours? I. Let me put it to you this way.

[Caller Tom]

If you're.

[Buck Sexton]

If you're the captain of an oil tanker right now that's about to go in there, are you like, well, Lloyd's of London has my back, so.

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No.

[Clay Travis]

Well, I think. I think if your boss said, hey, I want you to go, I think probably they go. So I think the owners of the ship.

[Buck Sexton]

You're a model employee. Yeah, well, I would not.

[Clay Travis]

The. The owners of the ships, I think, are concerned primarily about the safety of the physical cargo. And I know.

[Buck Sexton]

I think the crew is concerned about.

[Clay Travis]

So you think. You think the crew. You think the CRE Mutiny, basically, and say, we're not going.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, dude, for sure.

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Donald Trump]

Okay.

[Buck Sexton]

Absolutely.

[Clay Travis]

I don't know. I. I think that these are Navy

[Buck Sexton]

seals who are piloting these. They're not like. They're not.

[Clay Travis]

I think a lot of these guys. I think a lot of these guys are probably going borderline insane, like, cooling their heels in the. They are. Maybe you have to give them hazard pay in order to take the risk Buck. Guys get on the deadliest Catch I've. I used to watch that show. You couldn't pay me enough money to strap in in frigid seas and try to drag lobster out of the ocean. If you pay people enough money, they will basically take a risk to do anything.

[Buck Sexton]

First of all, Tennessee man crab. Not lobster.

[Clay Travis]

Lobsters.

[Buck Sexton]

The Northeastern. Look at this, look at this guy. Everybody. You see this?

[Clay Travis]

Crab. Lobster. I don't want to be on any ship that I could fall off. There's no amount of money you could pay me to go out in cold water and try to drag in, try to drag in crustaceans.

[Buck Sexton]

All right, so 1.1 Tennessee man stick to cobbler. Point 2. I think you are forgetting how much the risk factor is for people that are now you might say, well, it's only one ship that's attacked. Yeah, but who wants to, who wants to be. There's a reason we had to have this whole anti piracy program off of Somalia as long as we did. Because they were. And everyone's seen what's, what's the, you know, what's the movie? Not, not Captain.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, the I'm the pirate now thing.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, yeah, I'm the captain now. We all know that line. I can't remember the name. Anyway, there's a reason we have that. It's like Captain Smith or something.

[Clay Travis]

Whatever it is, that's Tom Hanks, right?

[Buck Sexton]

Captain Phillips. I said Smith. Captain Phillips. Same idea. Look, here's what Trump says about the ceasefire. We should, we just. He just said this a few minutes ago. So you're getting the most updated. Clay's like, eh, get some insurance. Man up.

[Clay Travis]

I think we go, we, I think if we insured the boats, the evil profit focused owners of the boat would just say, I, I go, I hope you're out.

[Buck Sexton]

I, I hope, you know, I hope everybody who works for Clay and sports media is hearing this. He's like, sometimes we gotta lose a few good guys to make a buck. No big deal.

[Clay Travis]

I gotta say, it's true. It's true. As the awful boss. I mean, you know, if, if, if the super bowl, we lose a couple of people at the Super Bowl. It happens. You got to be there to cover the Super Bowl.

[Buck Sexton]

He's like, you know, a stampede here, a stampede there. All right, this is cut 30 Trump moments ago. Play it.

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What do they need to do to violate the ceasefire?

[Donald Trump]

Well, you'll find out because I'll let you know. They know what to do and they know what to do and they know what not to do. More importantly, actually. And, you know, they fired them in little boats with peashooters. You know, the peashooters little boat with a little. You know why? Because they don't have any boats anymore. Their navy is comprised of. They call them little boats. And they're fast. Yeah, they're so fast that that eight of them and they're all gone. And they're fast, but they're not fast like a missile. A missile is slightly faster. They're all gone. So they're looking around for little boats to try and compete with our great navy. We have a navy that's unbelievable. You know, we set up a blockade, as you know very well. Not one ship couple tried and they got their engine shut out.

[Buck Sexton]

So you got 10 to 20 boats going through the Strait of Hormuz, I think as of May 5, it says here. So usually it's like 100 to 150, so it's way down. So some ships are going to. So some of them are willing to run the, run the risk. But this is a 90, 90% give or take drop from normal levels. So it ain't open yet. Not really. 90% drop is not open. Right.

[Donald Trump]

No, no, no.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, and again, I'm trying to think of, you may be right, that the crews are going to mutiny and they won't go. I actually think that most of the hang up is not as much fear of bodily injury, although it's an interesting thing to think about. If the crew just says up, sorry, we're not going. I think it's the fear of the, the, the ships themselves being attacked. And if we.

[Buck Sexton]

There are people on those ships. So if you're afraid of the ship being attacked, that means that people could get shot. Clays, but clays, really? Do you, do you, do you put

[Clay Travis]

on a top hat and a monocle

[Buck Sexton]

when you do this analysis?

[Clay Travis]

I think, I think if you pay those. Look again, if you pay the guys and you say, hey, I don't know what the average ship shipmate on one of these tankers makes. Let's say you just said, hey, we gotta get this thing out. We want commerce moving. We need fit. I'll give you each more 50k to take the risk. I think most would go. Here's the bigger concern I have about this though, Buck. Everybody's talking about the ships leaving. My question is who's going to bring their ship back? Because if I get my ship out of the Strait of Hormuz and it has been stuck there for a couple of Months. Why in the world am I going to take my ship back back in and risk again that it could be stuck there? There's any number of global shipping routes that they could go on. So I think while the focus is. And my. My solution for the insurance gets those ships out and gets the commerce moving out. I don't know who's going in. And that's the biggest issue, I think, going forward, because you get out, however many hundreds, couple hundred ships are backed up right there, you get all that out, that's good. But it doesn't solve the issue because I'm not taking my shit back in there.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, I think you're totally right about this. There's a huge difference between. I think it's quiet enough. We can get out of here. That. That is a risk versus maybe we should finish our run, come back and see how that goes. That's a.

[Clay Travis]

That's where. That's where crewman Clay would say, hey, I'll. I'll take the extra pay to get out. I'm not taking the extra pay to go back because I might get stuck in there for a couple of months. And here's the other thing. You're having to pay all of these guys, probably hazard pay, while they're just sitting cooling their heels up from Iran, waiting. You know, you look at the. The ship tracking and how much money

[Buck Sexton]

to get to get a Clay and Buck show from a Deadliest Catch ship in, like, the Bering Strait. It would have to be. They would have to pay me. It would be crazy money. You know what I'm saying? It would have. It would have to be like. I don't know, because that would.

[Clay Travis]

In order. In order. Sorry, what particular job? I wouldn't get on a boat to run the straight for. I mean, you'd have to give me, like, a couple hundred million dollars. Yeah, I mean, I'm not risking. I'm not risking my life because I'm not a ship guy. But if I were a ship guy, like, the ship guys are crazy, right? I mean, to their credit, I love this.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Buck Sexton]

welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We are just hearing more and more from President Trump in the Oval Office. We're going to bring this to you. Let's just talk gas prices here for a moment. This is what President Trump said a few minutes ago, Clay says, Is this the top domestic political issue right now? Right. Fair to say that's your.

[Clay Travis]

I think that's 100%, the number one demand.

[Buck Sexton]

Watch very closely. Gas prices up at 50%. This is cut 32. Play it.

[Donald Trump]

But what's happening is people are learning to buy oil from the United States. I mean, they're making the trip and they have safer, probably it's a better product too, by the way. But they have, they're learning to buy. They're changing their habits. So when I did this, I thought the market would go down 25%. And I think I thought that was a great deal. If it did. If it went down 25%, I was satisfied. I said, because we cannot let these people have a nuclear weapon. They'll use it. We can't. I also thought oil would go up to 200, 250, maybe 300. And I knew it would be short term, but I thought it would go I look today it's like at 102 and that's a very small price to pay for getting rid of a nuclear weapon from people that are really mentally deranged.

[Buck Sexton]

We shall continue our analysis of this one. But Trump saying gas prices are a bit high, but American producers are benefiting America. Supply is stable. All of this is only possible. Clay, I don't think Any president would have tried this 20 years ago because of the difference in the oil market.

[Clay Travis]

This is what Drill Baby Drill has done. It's created energy independence, largely for the United States. We'll talk more about this when we come back.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Okay, got a bunch calls. We'll get some of those. Also the president is bringing back the President fitness test. And there are. Buck. They are. This is pretty funny. They have the kids doing the presidential fitness test on the south lawn of the White House. As we are speaking with all of you, I would think, I'm sure you did the presidential fitness test back in the day, right Buck? I would think that. No, you didn't do it.

[Buck Sexton]

No.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, we did it, Clay.

[Buck Sexton]

I went to, I went to a nerd high school. There would have been a lot of, a lot of inhalers and people barfing. It would have been rough.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, we definitely did the presidential fitness test back in the day. I would think that doing the presidential fitness test at the White House has to be good for a couple of extra reps. And they've got kids doing as many sit ups as they can. They've got the supervision going on from White House staff keeping. They got people with stopwatches out there. We got kids doing sprints, sit ups, as many, as many pull ups as you can do. I will say the pull up was often A very much. For those of you who remember doing the presidential fitness test, the pull up challenge often did not go very well. There were lots of kids just hanging, just hanging there. But doing a pull up now is what percentage of people who are our age. I mean, I don't think most people can do a pull up. Oh definitely.

[Buck Sexton]

As people in their middle age. Very Like a small percentage could actually do a. A real pull up. Not seeing pull up. Yeah. And not. Not this. I'm sorry crossfit people. This like weird fish flopping, pull yourself up thing is nonsense. That's not a pull up.

[Clay Travis]

So yeah, full extension like you're hanging and you pull your chin all the way up over the bar. I think that would be very, very difficult to do. And so. Okay, we got a couple of more cuts. I'm just gonna. I'm gonna keep hammering this home. I think my insurance idea is genius now. Sure, the staffs may mutiny, which is

[Buck Sexton]

Clay's like, we may lose a few

[Clay Travis]

guys out there, but it's worth it May lose a few guys again. You ship people, you're tough. I just come back to the deadliest catch. I would. I would ride on a straight of Hormuz boat over trying to go catch what it was it trying to catch crabs out in the. Out in the Pacific Ocean.

[Caller Tom]

I.

[Clay Travis]

There's no way. It's freezing. They. They actually put. You have to clip in so that the waves knock you off. You don't drown. I'm not. I'm not going anywhere. We have to clip in. If you. If you ever have to clip in for anything on a boat, I'm out. You were just telling me I'm going to be done.

[Buck Sexton]

You probably freeze to death before you drown in that water. Just so you know. I mean you can keep yourself up, but you.

[Caller Tom]

You.

[Buck Sexton]

You only have a few minutes before you go full hypothermic and. And that's not going to be good.

[Clay Travis]

I'm not. If you tell me, hey, you just got to clamp yourself in here just to be safe. I'm not getting on that boat. But. But we got a bunch of things you won't. Yeah. Okay. Producer Greg is sending me text messages. I am not excited about swimming from Alcatraz. But it would end and unless a shark ate me, I would survive. I'm not excited about being shark bait because Buck got me nervous. That woman got eaten on the triathlon just off the coast of California not very long ago. They swim from what's the Great. Off the coast of LA Catalina Catalina Wine Festival happens. Yeah, Beautiful Catalina Island. She's training for the triathlon and a shark just ate her. And my buddy was telling me, buck, you sound like. This sounds like something you would have watched. There's a new documentary up. I think it's on Netflix, about how taking away the ability to hunt seals on the east coast has led to a huge increase in great whites. And now there's tons of people getting attacked because it's so much more fertile hunting. Have you heard about this? There's a documentary. You don't buy it.

[Buck Sexton]

It's not tons of people getting attacked. I mean, there's, you know, there's a few attacks here. What you are seeing, there are some 15 to 20 footers.

[Clay Travis]

Buck is like the mayor on Amity island who's upset with the shark. Like he wants to open the beaches. A woman was swimming with her daughter, and either the mom or the daughter just got eaten off the coast by a great white in the last year or so. They were just on a nice swim.

[Buck Sexton]

In the Pacific.

[Clay Travis]

No, no. On the Atlantic side.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, that was in. I think you're talking about a case in Maine, which is the only fatal shark attack ever in the history of Maine.

[Clay Travis]

Just like five, six.

[Buck Sexton]

That was years ago, though. That wasn't recent, I'm telling you.

[Clay Travis]

I think it's connected to there being more seals on the east coast now because we're not letting people kill seals. This is what my buddy told me. I got to watch the documentary. It's super popular right now. One of the biggest trending. They decided, I'll watch it, too, because sharks.

[Buck Sexton]

Sharks scare me. And I'm not the one who's going to be swimming from Alcatraz island to shore. That's going to be Clay. I'm going to be drinking hot cocoa in the launch boat. But they're. The shark thing is scary. We're going to get back onto the news of the day, everybody, I promise you, because this is what happens. We get into animal Thunderdome, and all of a sudden. Did you see the guy in the belly of the crocodile? South Africa. Now, he may have drowned first because crocodiles will eat things that people are already dead.

[Clay Travis]

You know, eat animals. They lifted the crocodile by helicopter, Clay,

[Buck Sexton]

it weighs almost a thousand pounds.

[Clay Travis]

Well, that doesn't seem like a good decision to me. That's what I'm saying. Like, I. Who was the poor bastard who had to hook the crocodile? Like, I would rather just kill the crocodile on the beach.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, they wanted to do a full. They did an Autopsy.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

And they found the guy's body and they found, I believe, six shoes, not his, in the crocodile's belly. Yeah, yeah, this was a. This was. Now people will say, were those all people who drown? I wouldn't bet on. They all drown. I don't think so.

[Clay Travis]

This is a serial killer crocodile. If he had six shoes. Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

Nile, like saltwater and Nile crocodiles are enormous and very dangerous and they kill hundreds of people every year. If you want to know what animals are dangerous. All right, I'm sorry. All right, I know we're, we're weaving. We're weaving the animals that are really dangerous. First of all, in places like South Asia and Southeast Asia, a lot more people die of venomous snake bites than you would think. Snakes are still very, very dangerous. Crocodiles take out a lot of people. Mosquitoes, like I said, are still unfortunately, the number one killer of human beings by far. Buffaloes and hippopotami are also very dangerous. Water buffalo and hippopotami. And this is what happens when you're a guy who doom scrolls animal stuff on. On your phone. You start to learn all these facts.

[Clay Travis]

All right, CLAY SPEAKER of. We got a bunch of talkbacks. This is Trump. So both funny and serious. Did we play. We haven't played Trump on. Did we play Trump on gas prices? Right. We played a cut on that. Producer Greg, help me out because I just sent you a bevy of these. Are any of these overlaps with what we have already paid played or are all of these new? Because I was grabbing. This all just happened. I know we didn't play this here. Trump is asked what Iran would have to do to violate the cease fire cut 30.

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[Donald Trump]

Well, you'll find out because I'll let you know. They know what to do and they know what to do and they know what not to do. More importantly, actually. And you know, they fire them in little boats with pea shooters, you know, the peashooters. Little boat with a little. You know why? Because they don't have any boats anymore. Their navy is comprised of. They call them little boats. And they're fast. Yeah, they're so fast that, that they had eight of them and they're all gone. And they're fast, but they're not fast like missile. Missile slightly faster. They're all gone. So they're looking around for little boats to try and compete with our great navy. We have a navy. That's unbelievable. You know, we set up a blockade, as you know very well, not One ship couple tried and they got their engine shot out.

[Clay Travis]

Okay, and then here is another one. Trump says he was asked why hasn't anyone rose risen up against the existing Iranian regime? And here's what he said. Cut 31 people say, why aren't they protesting?

[Donald Trump]

They want to protest, but they don't have any guns. So you can have 200,000 people protesting and have five or six sick people with guns. And when they start shooting them right between the eyes and you see a guy fall and another one fall and you have no guns. Very few people would be able to stand there and do it. I mean, I understand. I tell them not to. Don't Forget they killed 42,000 people last month. 42,000 unarmed protesters. They had no guns. So they had a 250,000 people crowd. And they had snipers. They had like four or five snipers in buildings up high. And you're standing there and all of a sudden the guy on your left goes down and somebody. That's what happened with a woman Protest. They had 200,000 women protesting a year ago. And everyone thought that was the end of Iran.

[Buck Sexton]

I've been saying this for a while, that a lot of people got eliminated. Who would have been the brave souls out there now? I think, Clay, they were killed during the crackdown. You want another clip?

[Caller Tom]

Go ahead.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. No, and this is just a fun. And we got loaded lines. A lot of you weighing in on the insurance idea. We'll see whether you are like me and just say, you know, full speed ahead.

[Buck Sexton]

Damn the torpedoes you're reminding me of. This is a great, a great scene in Braveheart when Longshanks is like. Is like arrows cost money. Send in the Irish. The dead cost nothing. You know, that's you right now, buddy. You're the king of England sending in the Irish to get their asses kicked because arrows are expensive.

[Clay Travis]

Gotta get them out. Here is. This is also funny, I mentioned that the kids have the presidential fitness. Trump is doing this press conference while there's a bunch of kids standing around in the Oval Office. Trump asks a kid if he thinks he could beat up Trump in a fight. This is cut 34.

[Donald Trump]

I don't think we have to worry about you. Yes, sir. You're gonna do good. Are you a strong person? Yes, sir. But you think you can take me in a fight? That would be embarrassing.

[Clay Travis]

That was like a 12 year old kid that is standing next to Trump. Trump with kids buck underrated. I actually think when they do events with Trump because he's actually a pretty good grandpa when he was explaining to the kids the Biden auto pin. I think it's hard not to have a positive reaction to Trump when he's interacting with kids at these White House events. Easter Egg Roll, Christmas related. I still think turn down the radio. When Trump was talking with the kids about Santa Claus and he asked how old, how old the kid was about Santa Claus. That's one of the all time great Trump clips, honestly. All right, we got loaded lines. We'll get to some of your loaded lines when we come back. In the meantime, next weekend, I'm getting nervous. No, this weekend. This weekend is Mother's Day. This weekend is Mother's Day, right? Sunday is Mother's Day. And so you just heard me pause there for a sec. I got to be on top of it. This weekend is Mother's Day and if you want to give mom the ultimate best gift, a lot of times it's just memories from times that you have spent together. How many of those memories are old school digital and how many new school digital versus old school VHS tapes, old photographs? Can you ensure that if something happened, if you had a flood in the garage, if the attic got too hot, that those memories are preserved forever? Probably not. Legacy Box can ensure that all your old memories are preserved forever digitally. They take your old videotape, Super 8 film reels, slides, whatever you have old photos and they will digitize them, allow you to share it with the whole family. Text message. They'll also store it. I've seen their facilities in Chattanooga. They are fantastic. They do quality work. What you get back in the way of family, memories and entertainment is priceless. Go to legacybox.com clay for the best Mother's Day sale ever. 60% off regular prices legacybox.com clay for 60 off that's legacybox.com clay 60 off perfect Mother's Day gift. Do it today. Laugh, learn.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back in here to Clay Anne Buck vip. Email from west right out of the gate. Clay, you told us you were going to swim Alcatraz this July. That's only a few months away. Am I hearing your hearing you correctly? Are you squiggling out of it already? Question mark

[Clay Travis]

yes.

[Buck Sexton]

At least he's honest.

[Clay Travis]

I could. Now I'm going to take a couple of things here. 1. I have not trained.

[Buck Sexton]

2.

[Clay Travis]

Laura is actually concerned that I might get eaten by a shark and it's really kind of gotten in my head that I might get eaten by a shark and Buck sharing that story about the woman doing, doing the triathlon getting eaten by the shark. If there is a way she was

[Buck Sexton]

bitten, she wasn't eaten. Important distinction. She got bitten by the shark off the west coast of California during the Catalina.

[Clay Travis]

She didn't get eaten, she died.

[Buck Sexton]

No, she's a bite. It was a little nibble, A little like, hey, what's going on?

[Clay Travis]

I, I, the shark thing is in my head and I can't shake it.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, I don't know if an eight foot great white shark takes like a little nibble, but like she lived, she did live here.

[Clay Travis]

Here is, here's my potential compromise. There is very safe in the US Virgin Islands. There is a one and a quarter mile swim across the bay in Megan's Bay. I used to live overlooking it when I was down there over the holiday. I was looking at that and I was thinking now granted it's warmer but it's still a mile and a quarter. And I feel like I could prove that I could swim that mile and a quarter without being attacked by, I'm

[Buck Sexton]

sorry, in your bath temperature water under a beautiful sun, do they give you a back rub while you're doing it?

[Clay Travis]

This is preposterous of the. Most of the people that believed I could not do it was about the distance more than it was about the temperature of the water. I mean I was going to be in a wetsuit. Nice warm wetsuit. This is, I, I appreciate the, the call. I feel very confident that I could do it and I'm willing to do it in a way that does not put me at risk of being eaten by a shark. If we can contemplate a way to

[Buck Sexton]

do that, I'm going to let Tom and Tampa bail you out here. He's on the lines live. Tom, what's going on?

[Caller Tom]

Hey, Clay. Clam. Buck. Listen, I just wanted to hitchhike on Clay's comments about the, the insurance thing. There is definitely some legs there. But I think it's important to understand a little history. Lloyd's of London is the insurer of last resort, as you guys know. But it's important to understand some history in the 337 years of Lloyd of London on the high seas insuring vessels. This is the first time in history even the Yom Kippur War, which you would probably know about Buck, because of CIA, even the Yom Kippur War boys of London still insured. So for this to work, each loss of a tanker at the bottom of the sea, including the cost of a tanker and assuming a 345,000 barrel of oil to the largest tanker you can do is about $35 million. So the. So the asterisk to Clay's idea is that the US Would literally have to take over Lloyd's position as the insurer of last resort. And I don't know, Clay, you're an attorney. I don't know the legal machinations of that, but the idea has legs. But we. But the problem is, Lloyd, as I understand it, for the first time in history, is refusing to insure everybody going through there. That is the real issue. And I think. I don't think anybody's really talking about that.

[Clay Travis]

No, look, Tom, I should have explained a little bit more this. Yeah, you're exactly right. My idea on insuring is predicated on many of the current insurers are saying they will not insure these boats. Your math is a good one there. I would say $35 million for a tanker if it went to the bottom of the sea. That's like not even what a Somali daycare makes from our government. So. So the overall cost here. My point is, and we'll talk about this a bit more, because I do think it's an intriguing idea, the overall cost would immediately vanish in terms of the premium on oil and gas. We would get back far more than we would be ensuring, in my opinion. And it would, I think, immediately knock $20 off a bear cost of a barrel of oil and gas, which would overwhelmingly make gas prices more affordable here. Makes it a net positive for us.

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