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Clay Travis
I said 6 months ago when Trump won that I thought the resistance to a large extent on a deportation front would come when Democrats found an individual that they believed was unjustly deported and tried to use that anecdote as a way to attack the entire deportation concept in general. And they did. And they picked this Kilmar Garcia guy and said, oh, my goodness, this is a Maryland dad. There's no basis whatsoever to have deported him. He's not a gang member. He hasn't done anything wrong. He's a loving dad. And evidence keeps coming out that this is totally wrong and embarrassing. And after we went off the air yesterday, the police reports, which I think we hinted were coming of him for being an alleged wife beater were released. And they're bad.
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Clay Travis
Look, domestic violence is always difficult for the courts to reconcile because many times women end up staying with the man that they accuse of domestic abuse. But the detail, the evidence, it's pretty awful. And it suggests that this guy is a wife beater. On top of that, there also was a subsequent report from the Tennessee Star that this illegal immigrant gang member was pulled over in the state of Tennessee with seven different individuals in his car that the state of Tennessee police believed was human trafficking, and that they then made a call to the FBI in the Biden regime. And the Biden regime FBI said, let him go. So just factually now, Buck, and a lot of this has been released. You can go look it up for yourself. If somebody on your Facebook page is talking about this being a loving Maryland father. This guy was arrested with gang members in gang paraphernalia, in cash and adjudicated. Ms. 13 gang member, per evidence from authorities, is in the state of Maryland, a documented wife beater in the state of Tennessee, according to the report from the Tennessee Star, was pulled over and suspected of human trafficking and let go by the Biden FBI. And he is illegally in the country. All of this is undisputed, factually accurate information. And the Democrats decided that this is the Hill that they will fight on. This is where they need to draw the line on who needs to be let back in the country such that One of the 47 Democrat senators traveled to the state of Maryland. Sorry, from the state of Maryland to El Salvador to try and argue that that individual needed to be let back into the country. I think this buck has blown up in their faces. I would expect that you will see an attempt to kind of run from this guy and pretend that all of this has not happened. Because for all of it to come out, I can't think of a less positive face for the deportation is wrong movement than the guy basically that they have picked. And I thought the Trump administration yesterday with the moment of the Maryland resident, sadly, who was beaten to death by an illegal immigrant. I watched yesterday. She was the special guest for Caroline Levitt in the White House press briefing room. The mom's story was hard to hear, I think, for anyone out there, but she wanted to share what happened to her daughter and there were no questions afterwards, and they walked out. And I think the Maryland sort of juxtaposition between an American citizen being brutally beaten, raped to death and what's going on with Maryland senator is just awful optics.
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Cut to, to have a senator from Maryland who didn't even acknowledge or barely acknowledged my daughter and the brutal death that she endured, leaving her five children without a mother and now a grandbaby without a grandmother so that he can use my taxpayer money to fly to El Salvador to bring back someone that's not even an American citizen. Why does that person have more right than I do or my daughter for my grandchildren? I don't, I don't understand this, Clay.
Somehow the rule of law means that illegals have all of these layers upon layers of processes to prevent them from being deported. But there aren't all these layers and layers to prevent them from coming into the country. Those laws don't get focused on, don't get talked about by Democrats. And also, and I know that this is something that Democrats would find very contentious, but I don't care. I think it's true. Of course, if you let 10 million people into the country with no vetting who are illegals, you're going to let murderers, rapists, gang members in. It was an active choice for them to do this. Biden and his cronies and his handlers and the Democrat leadership and the machinery around it decided to let in these people. That there's no question about this, because now it's down 95%. OK? And it didn't take long. So that means it was a choice. So they decided to let people in, and that decision led to dangerous illegals. I know it's a small percentage of the overall illegals who came into the country. It doesn't matter. None of them are supposed to be Here under the law, dangerous illegals, which resulted in things like Lake and Riley's rape and murder, which resulted in things like Patty Morin's daughter being killed. And the government now gets all. Or the Democrats, I should say, get all haughty about the due process rights of non Americans. I mean, I think people have just realized, no, we're not doing this thing anymore. We don't do this thing where there are all these special rights for illegals, but Americans are told too hard to enforce the law. We're a nation of immigrants. So all these illegals have special privileges.
Clay Travis
I mean, a question for anybody out there listening right now. Is there, we have millions of people listening. Is there a single person who thinks this guy should be brought back into the country? You can call us. I mean, I would love to hear the argument for why a wife beating gang member that the state of Tennessee believed was engaged in illegal human trafficking when he was pulled over a couple of years ago illegally in this country. Why should he be brought back in the country? Why should he have been here in the first place? A open forum, he'll say, oh, you know, you don't hear both sides of an argument sometimes. You get that, okay, why should this guy be brought back into the country? Is there a single person out there listening to us? Biggest radio show in the country that's on air right now. Is there a single one of you that believes that this guy should be brought back? Buck, I think this is a 9010 issue. I think there are 10% of Democrats, let's say, who legitimately believe there should be no borders, basically anywhere in the world that would say, oh, this guy should be brought back. I think it's a 9010 issue right now. Even in Maryland, which is a very blue state, you know, who hasn't really spoken up very much about this? Wes Moore, the governor. I think he sees this politically and he says, wait a minute, why would I put my legitimacy as the governor of the citizens of Maryland on the line over a wife beating gang member from El Salvador who is illegally here and may well have been involved in human trafficking based on getting pulled over per a Tennessee police report? Why should that guy be here? I mean, I.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, I mean, I don't even know what the argument is.
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I also would say why are Democrats clearly more mobilized and outraged over this situation than over anything that has happened to an American at the hands of an illegal alien criminal over the last four years? Nothing even comes close. So it's not like we're just picking two random things and, oh, well, it's a busy world and there's a lot of things they can focus on. There is not a single instance of Democrats deciding that they are going to mobilize and make an issue, make a national issue of anyone who has been raped, murdered, carjacked, assaulted by. I don't just mean an illegal in this generic sense of. Well, there's a lot of illegals. Illegals who have already had deportation orders, who have already been arrested, who have had sanctuary cities decide they weren't going to share information with the feds, who have. The Democrats have been complicit in all of this. Yeah, they are openly complicit in this violation of sovereignty, this violation of law. And now they want to lecture us on the law. Man. The only things I want to say to them, I can't say on the radio without getting a fine. Honestly, that's how I feel.
Clay Travis
I will just point out something that I said yesterday. Who you choose to be the avatar of your policy matters a great deal. And they have chosen poorly. In the words of the last Crusade, Indiana Jones. Right. They have chosen a very poor individual to be the stand in for why Trump's deportation orders are cruel and unnecessary and unfair and potentially illegal. The United States public overwhelmingly says a wife beating illegal immigrant, human trafficker, potentially. Who is, who is not supposed to be here. Gang member of. Of Ms. 13. This guy needs to go. I think they chose really poorly. I just really do.
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I agree with you. I thought the Democrats would at least play along a bit with the we're going to deport the illegal criminal Ms. 13 types. But what about the dreamers? I thought that was the pivot, you know, what about the hard working so and so and so and so who are. No, they're actually. This is the Hill they want to fight on. And that is the critical point, Clay. They don't want to deport anyone. The Democrat Party's actual emotional position on this is they all should stay. And I don't just mean the ones who. We all know people that work hard, who are in the country illegally and you know that. It gets to be a more interesting conversation. I still think if you're illegal, you should have to go home to your home country. But they think that the gang members also should stay. This is like they're in the fabric of America now. It's insane. It's insane. We'll keep talking about this. All right. April 15th has come and gone and we're happy that at Least on tax day, we're able to give you guys a bit of a diversion from what's not a fun day for a lot of people. And especially if you didn't file or you're just kind of hiding out from the irs. You figure, will they ever really get to me, that's not the right attitude. They will, they will. I just went through a two year audit. Trust me, they will find you at some point and it can be a real nightmare. I've had to deal with the tax authorities. Clay's had to deal with the tax authorities. Look, there's no shame in it. You just want to take action and get it addressed sooner than later. It's better monetarily. It's better in all respects to take action on it now. So if you're out there and you haven't filed or you have some problems with the irs, call the experts at Rush Tax resolution. Because every day you wait, that threat from the IRS grows. Seizing your assets, garnishing your paycheck, targeting your business over payroll taxes. They can even revoke your passport. I know you might have that sinking feeling in your gut. And it's never a good day, you know, to be all of a sudden in your mind, it's like, oh, I have to reach out and deal with. This is never fun. But the sooner you do it, the better. That's the truth. Tell them when you call Rush Tax Resolution that Clay and Buck sent you. 877-554-rush. 877-554-rusk. Get a free IRS transcript investigation. Rush Tax is the only company we trust and recommend. A lot of listeners have already been helped out there and their tax nightmares are over. Think about that relief. But Rush Tax will only take your case if they know that they can help you, period. Call now, 877-554-rush. That's 877-554-rush. Or go online to Rush Tax Resolution.
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Making America great again isn't just one man, it's many. The Team 47 podcast, Sundays at noon Eastern in the Clay and Buck podcast feed. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We're talking about the situation with the El Salvador illegal who is here. And, uh, well, we'll take a call from Paul in Kentucky who wants to defend. I put out the APB 800-242-4224, 4288. I've just forgotten our phone number off the top of my head. You could call in. You probably know it. And if you are able to defend, I'll give a nod in your direction as to why I believe that, that you've made a good case. I have not heard anybody, as a lawyer, I have not heard anybody make a good case for why we should bring back the this guy from El Salvador that everyone acknowledges was illegally in the country and has been returned to his home country. Why should we not actually go ahead and have done that? We'll take up your calls and you can break all that down when we go forward. 800-282-2882.
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We'll take a couple of your calls, 800-282-2882 if anybody out there wants to defend it. But I did think this was interesting. I said, I think this is a 9010 issue and I think this is going to blow up in the Maryland senator's face. And Harry Enton over at CNN said, I don't know if you've seen this yet, Buck. Most Americans support deporting all illegal immigrants. Now this is a profound shift from when Trump first entered office and certain it's a function of wherever you live. The 10 million-plus illegal immigrants who entered during Biden's term in office have changed the overall perspective on Americans when it comes on how to deal with illegal immigrants. Play Cut one from CNN this morning.
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Clay Travis
Okay, 56% want all illegal immigrants sent back to their countries. What do you think the percentage is? Buck, do you sign off on my 9010? If you ask people, hey, illegal immigrant from El Salvador, gang member of Ms. 13, wife beater, potential human trafficker having been pulled over. If it's 56% for everybody, it's gotta be 9010. I think for this guy in particular, which circles back around on Trump has won this issue for everyone. But in particular for this guy to become the avatar of Democrat resistance policy when it comes to illegal immigrants is, I think, an all time miscalculation.
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Clay Travis
Biden needed to last in order for Buck island to remain extant. Or do you think in retrospect now that they really would have gone nuclear, that the Chuck Schumer's and Nancy Pelosi would have gone directly public to force him out?
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No, I honestly, all kidding aside, I believe that if a couple of things had gone a little bit differently and they had decided to put Biden forward and have him do a few live events that they. I think it was Razor. I mean, obviously I thought he was going to be. I think it was Razor's edge, that, that they pushed him out. And can I just be clear? It was moronic to push him out. They got smoked. Right. Like, I understand the polls showed that he had had a really bad, you know, really bad moment there, but I think he could have gained ground. Kamala never had a path. There was never a pathway for Kamala. Right. And, and I think that we obviously saw that in the election. So I gave the Democrats credit for being savvier than they actually were in that instance. Which brings me to this one, Clay. There's not who's, who's really on the calls, who's really, you know, making the decisions from the top of the And I mean that across the board. Democrat Party, cnn, msnbc, Industrial Complex, New York Times. Who has the most power right now in the Democrat Party to set the agenda for Trump resistance? I mean, I think it's aoc, which we're going to talk more about. I mean, I think that they're trying to build.
Clay Travis
I think it might be Rachel Maddow, because I think she's the only person that has a substantial audience in the party. I think people want to be liked by her. And she's not a bomb.
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Clay Travis
Who is the.
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Who is the brain? Who is the leadership?
Clay Travis
I don't think they have one at all. That's why I think the nominee is going to be in 2028, someone who's not even in politics right now.
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And this is where, though, Clay, to the point about Abrego, Garcia, them making another political blunder here, it's not surprise. Why would that be surprising? Who's in charge right now? They're just chasing. They're like the kids, young kids. You know, I coach soccer. Clay and I both played soccer back in the day. When you have young kids playing soccer, they all just crowd the ball and nobody knows what's going on. And they're all just sort of kicking the ball at each other. You know, it's like a little, a little mob.
Clay Travis
It's a scroll.
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Clay Travis
That's true. Yeah.
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They're just all kicking the ball. They don't know where it's going. They're just like, it's Trump, kick it.
Clay Travis
I do think that if you look at what. Let's leave aside the judiciary, because they have clearly emerged as Trump 2.0. This is what I was kind of talking about. They sort of haphazardly and almost drunkenly stumble from one talking point to another. It wasn't very long ago that everybody suddenly was saying, oh, you can't afford eggs now. Well, wholesale egg prices have collapsed. They're actually lower than when Biden was in office. That story's gone. And then what was everybody focused on? The stock market. Oh, my goodness. The tariff battles the stock market. It's unsustained stock market, same price. It was Roughly in September right now, that story, given that we have not seen as much vacillation in stock prices, that story has vanished. Then it's, oh, my goodness. You took a Maryland dad. You took a Maryland man. Oh, oh. But actually he's a wife beater and a human trafficker and a gang member and a bad dude. And so all collapsed. Yeah, that's an El Salvador. Yeah, that's true too.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, no, it's a good point.
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You are the person. It's either where, you know, it's either where you live and are from or your nationality. It doesn't get to be where you are at some period of time. Right. If I crossed over state lines and got in trouble in Texas. Nobody said like Texas, man. Does it? No, I live in Florida.
Clay Travis
Yeah, I mean, this is their. Their failure to make him an avatar. We got a couple of callers, by the way, who want to weigh in. Paul in Kentucky. What do you think?
Caller
Okay, part of the 50%.
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Clay Travis
Shannon. Shannon in South Dakota. What you got?
Caller
Yeah, so the issue is, is good guy, bad guy. He was convicted of no crimes. He was charged with no crimes. And.
Clay Travis
Well, he's illegally here, though.
Caller
Sure, sure.
Clay Travis
So do you think he could be deported?
Caller
Protective order. Absolutely. Can be deported. I think one of the issues is, is that we deported him to a prison. We do not ship people.
Clay Travis
We didn't deport him to a prison. Hold on. We sent him to El Salvador and El Salvador Dec should be in prison there.
Caller
Sure. And the reason that they didn't want to send him back there was fear of, you know, reprisal from other gang members or something like that. But they knew he was going to a prison. We ship.
Clay Travis
We don't control. We don't control what anybody does when we send them back to their country. So you think he should still be here in control?
Caller
No, I think that we could have deported him. That's fine. Give him his due process. The Supreme Court, I read it, they. They violated his due process and illegally shipped him to a country where he was immediately put into prison. And we don't put people in prison for accusations.
Clay Travis
We didn't put him in prison.
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Prison. Pete Hegseth is not in prison for his accused rape. Trump is not in prison.
Clay Travis
Well, Pete Hegseth is a citizen of the United States, and actually he was investigated by the state of California. And they determined that didn't happen.
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No, they didn't determine it happened. They determined that they didn't have enough. It was a he said, she said. Just for clarification.
Clay Travis
But when you. Hold on, hold on. When you hold on, when you investigate someone to see if they committed a crime and you choose not to bring charges in that crime, that's pretty strong evidence that you didn't commit a crime. Right? Because if you think that they might have committed a crime and you are bringing charges, then you would take it to the jury to determine whether or not they committed a crime.
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The standard of is, would a jury be able to convict them based on the evidence that is provided? It is not a determination of guilt or not guilty.
Clay Travis
So you are of the opinion, if I said right now, hey, we've got to investigate whatever your name is in South Dakota, I think he's committed a crime. And if in South Dakota they investigated it and chose not to bring charges against you, you think the standard would be, well, they didn't determine I didn't commit a crime. They determined I did. There wasn't enough evidence to convict me of a crime. That's how you'd want to be identified as a caller on the program.
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That is the standard, whether I want to be accused of a crime. Anybody who's been accused of a crime is already underneath scrutiny at that point in time.
Clay Travis
But again, especially if, again, the investigators look into it. All right, so what's your position here? Do you want him sent back? What is your actual advocacy that you've called in to advocate for here?
Caller
Sure. I would like to get him out of prison, get him to a place where he's not going to be put in prison unless we convict him of a crime. If they want to charge you for a crime here, fine, go ahead. Which they have not done.
Advertiser
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Clay Travis
But he's not in prison in the United. Thanks for the call. I don't. We're just kind of going around in circles here. I look, he is not put in prison here. He is illegally here. He has been investigated for wife beating based on his own wife's position. He was investigated for human trafficking in Tennessee. And the Biden FBI said, hey, let him go we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is not supposed to be here. He was arrested with other Ms. 13 gang members, gang members with many different aspects of gang affiliation directly connected to him. And he was sent to El Salvador. El Salvador, which is now one of the safest countries in the world thanks to what Bukele has done there, made the determination that he should be in prison because they believe that he is a gang member.
Advertiser
Well, I also think that. That it's not. You can't expect the American people. To me, this even goes to more just common sense and, like, fundamental belief about where the country is and what's happening here. You cannot expect us all to say, you know what, all the laws about keeping illegals out and finding and deporting illegals, those aren't really laws. Like, that's. Sorry, there's too much going on, too much complexity. But if you do anything to an illegal that does not give him his five different versions of a day in court, that does not take into account that any judge at any time can keep the law. Cannot be. Anyone can come here, and no one gets kicked out. That's like. There's just a rejection of that. I reject that premise. Okay. And that seems to be where the Democrats are on this.
Clay Travis
I also think that somebody out there thinking, hey, I'm here illegally. If I get stopped, I might end up in a prison back in my home country. Maybe I should leave. Is not a bad message to be sending. Right? I mean, honestly, like, this guy is, I think, quite clearly, based on all the evidence, a bad dude who should not be here, and the fact that they would make him the avatar and that the best defense that we got is some guy from South Dakota says, oh, I don't think he should be in prison in El Salvador. Well, shouldn't his home country be able to determine whether they believe that he is a threat or not and apply the laws of their home country as it pertains to their citizen? And again, if this guy had come here and he had been a sterling man of character and all of those things, he would still be here illegally and he would still be subject to deportation. But he was not. He is a gang member based on all the evidence. You can go read it. He is potentially engaged in human trafficking based on a Tennessee police report. He is clearly based on his own wife, someone who has beaten her, and she has needed to seek the protection of the state. Like, I'm not losing or weeping at all for this guy.
Advertiser
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Clay Travis
Let me also say this because he tried to pivot and attack Pete Hegseth on this. I think this is actually really significant. And I know this has been something that matters to you too. He tried to say, well, they investigated it and they chose not to bring charges, but that doesn't mean that he didn't commit a rape. I that argument, it needs to vanish. Right? Because if you have a woman who can anonymously accuse a man of inappropriate behavior of a sexual nature, the authorities actually investigate it. They choose not to bring charges. You can't then say, well, he may have raped her, but they just chose not to bring charges. No, if you get investigated and they don't bring charges, I'm sorry, anonymous, your name gets dragged through the mud and everything else. I think we need to make it the standard that we say this didn't happen. Not. Well, they didn't. They decided they couldn't convict beyond a reasonable doubt. So that doesn't mean he didn't rape her. That is just, I'm sorry, that line of, of, of thought in this era, when you can levy any accusation against someone at all that you want, and then when authorities investigate and don't bring it, you still say, well, it didn't mean he didn't do it. I'm over that era. I think that is frankly indefensible.
Advertiser
I also think, yeah, I don't. I. As soon as the guy started, you were much more polite to him than I would have been if I was handling that. But I would just say because you and I agree, the p thing, it's. There's just. There's no there there. But anyway, and the cops found there's no no there there. Trust me. They weren't giving the Fox News host in California like the benefit of the doubt. There was no said to.
Clay Travis
There's no. Yeah, there's no privilege of being a Fox News host in, in California when.
Advertiser
You'Re investigated for, you know, sexual assault. So Pete, you know, I, I have, there's zero doubt in my mind that Pete did not actually break any laws there whatsoever. Beyond that, though, this is, this is where I think people just, we keep being told, oh, you know what we got, we gotta, we gotta come back, come back.
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In this episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve into pressing issues surrounding immigration policies, the treatment of transgender athletes in sports, and the political maneuvers affecting elite institutions like Harvard. Through a blend of incisive analysis and poignant stories, the duo sheds light on the complexities and controversies shaping current American socio-political landscapes.
The episode opens with Clay Travis addressing a significant move by the IRS under the Trump administration to rescind the tax-exempt status of Harvard University. This action has sparked considerable debate, especially among Democrats who view Harvard as a bastion of elite higher education.
Clay Travis highlights the gravity of this move:
"Harvard, some of our Boston Night listeners, is facing an IRS move under Trump's administration to rescind the tax-exempt status of this storied university. This is getting a lot of attention from Democrats who realize that their cathedral, if you will, which is elite higher education, is coming under pressure in a way that they really have never before." (05:53)
This development is seen as a strategic effort to challenge institutions perceived as liberal strongholds, potentially reshaping the influence of elite education in political discourse.
Shifting focus, Travis and Sexton discuss the contentious topic of transgender athletes competing in women's sports. The hosts express concerns about safety and fairness, questioning whether the inclusion of transgender women in certain sports categories compromises the integrity and safety of female athletes.
Buck Sexton introduces the topic:
"We want to spend a little time on that one today. And it goes to the issues of safety concerns and whether there are safety concerns for young women who end up having to compete with these individuals who are trans." (04:07)
The discussion revolves around the balance between inclusivity and maintaining competitive fairness, highlighting the polarized views on this subject.
A significant portion of the episode centers on the tragic story of Patty Morin, whose daughter was killed by an illegal immigrant in Maryland. This personal tragedy is juxtaposed with the case of Garcia, an alleged MS-13 gang member deported back to El Salvador, prompting debates about immigration policies and due process.
Clay Travis recounts:
"We had a special guest yesterday who appeared in the White House to speak out, Patty Morin, whose daughter was killed by an illegal alien in Maryland. She spoke at the White House. And that will bring you some of her thoughts." (05:53)
Further elaborating, Travis critiques the Democratic handling of Garcia's case:
"He was illegally here. He has been returned to his home country... evidence suggests that this guy is a wife beater, involved in human trafficking, and a gang member." (06:54)
The hosts argue that Democrats are misrepresenting Garcia to undermine Trump’s immigration policies, portraying him as an innocent figure despite substantial evidence of his criminal activities.
Referencing a recent CNN report, Travis and Sexton discuss the evolving American public opinion on deporting illegal immigrants. The report indicates a significant shift, with a majority now supporting the deportation of all undocumented individuals, a stark contrast to sentiments in previous years.
Clay Travis cites the statistic:
"56% of voters now favor the government trying to deport all 11 million undocumented immigrants, up from 38% in 2016." (27:03)
This shift is attributed to the policies implemented during Biden’s administration, which many believe have exacerbated immigration challenges, reinforcing Trump's stance on stricter immigration controls.
The hosts analyze the Democratic Party's strategic errors, particularly in selecting Garcia as a symbol against Trump’s immigration stance. They argue that this choice is politically damaging and fails to resonate with the public, who view Garcia as a criminal rather than a victim of unjust policies.
Buck Sexton adds:
"I think it's a 90-10 issue now. Even in Maryland, a very blue state, no one has really spoken up very much about this." (14:31)
Travis concurs, emphasizing that the Democrats have chosen an ineffective "avatar" in Garcia, undermining their efforts to critique Trump's immigration policies.
Throughout the episode, Travis encourages listener participation, urging them to share their views on Garcia's deportation. He challenges the necessity of bringing back someone with Garcia's alleged criminal background, seeking real-time engagement from the audience.
Clay Travis invites listeners:
"Is there a single person who thinks this guy should be brought back into the country? You can call us." (12:46)
This call to action underscores the hosts' quest for public validation of their stance against the current Democratic approach to immigration.
In wrapping up, Travis and Sexton reflect on the broader implications of the discussed issues, positing that the Democratic Party may struggle to maintain a coherent stance on immigration amid mounting public support for stricter policies. They foresee potential political fallout as the party grapples with its identity and policy effectiveness.
Clay Travis concludes:
"Trump has won this issue for everyone. This guy in particular... to become the avatar of Democrat resistance policy is an all-time miscalculation." (27:48)
The episode closes with an acknowledgment of the ongoing challenges and the uncertain path ahead for American immigration policy, emphasizing the need for informed and decisive leadership.
Clay Travis (05:53):
"Harvard is coming under pressure in a way that Democrats have never before seen."
Buck Sexton (04:07):
"Are there safety concerns for young women competing with transgender athletes?"
Clay Travis (06:54):
"This guy is a wife beater, involved in human trafficking, and a gang member."
Clay Travis (27:03):
"56% of voters now favor the government trying to deport all 11 million undocumented immigrants."
Clay Travis (12:46):
"Is there a single person who thinks this guy should be brought back into the country?"
This episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show presents a critical examination of current immigration policies, the politicization of tragic personal stories, and the challenges faced by the Democratic Party in aligning public sentiment with their policy agendas. Through robust discussion and compelling narratives, Travis and Sexton advocate for a more stringent approach to immigration, resonating with a significant portion of the American populace.