C (6:10)

The number percentage of Americans that are looking for a job or have a job actually went to its highest level since 2001. So actually people are coming back off the sidelines into the labor market because they see the high wage growth, all the factory starts and so on. And so that's thing one, you know, thing two is that because we've been reducing government workers, federal government workers, so much, about 360,000 this year, that the jobs numbers actually kind of understate how wonderful the economy is doing because the government worker employment has been a drag. And to put it in perspective, that we've got the lowest government worker number since 1966 and the lowest share of government workers in the labor force in all of history.

B (6:55)

So, I mean, these are pretty positive things, Buck. And the stock market is responding in a very positive way with overall the surging number of people who are employed. Tax revenues are up. The overall federal deficit is coming down substantially. Buck, even though a lot of people don't want to talk about it, were really firing on all cylinders in a pretty fantastic way.

A (7:20)

Well, you certainly would know because it would be the lead story on every anti Trump Democrat journalist, website and news source out there. If the economy was in some kind of a freefall, in some sort of a tanking mode, it's, it's gotten to the point where to try to argue that Biden had better. And when I say Biden, I understand he wasn't really in charge. The Biden regime, which is what we called it all along, the advisors in and around the White House during the Biden administration who were signing off on and pushing, you know, they had their own council of Economic Advisors, they had their own Treasury Secretary, et cetera, et cetera. Trump is just better at this than all of them. And Trump's team is better at this than all of them. He's better at freeing up the American economy, making a clear path for wealth creation and essentially letting the business of the American people be business once again. Not demonizing the successful, not focusing on Marxist redistributive principles, not focused on DEI nonsense and training little kids and all These things that were hallmarks of the Biden years, nevermind all the COVID madness they pushed too. Clay. This is just better. I know that's a simple way of saying it, but it is just a better American economy than what you had under four years of Biden. And it is, yes, harkening back to the four years of Trump's first term, which were a booming economy. And the only thing that put a little bit of, you know, of a wrench into the situation was the Wu flu. So that's what happened.

B (9:01)

Oh, I mean, it doesn't get talked about enough. February of 2020, for those of us who remember, was the greatest economy that we have ever seen in the history of the United States. By the way, we may be about to eclipse that here in 2026, because I think the numbers are starting to reflect it. But if you go back and look at February of 2020, until Covid suddenly exploded on the scene in that month of February 2020, Trump was cruising to reelection. The economy was going to be in November, the greatest economy that we had ever seen. The only reason they were able to drag Joe Biden across the finish line was because of COVID And remember, and this is important, I think Biden got the nomination before COVID happened. In retrospect, the fact that he was 78 years old or whatever the heck he was when he was running, and they were able to hide him in the basement, it looked like some sort of grand plan that they had put together. But remember, he won and swept to basically the nomination and then they just put him in the basement for six months. If they had actually, I mean, I think this is 100% true. And I bet you would sign off on it, Buck. If they had actually had to run a campaign, Biden's decrepitude would have revealed itself and Trump would have won an unbelievable landslide in 2020 because they wouldn't have been able to hide the fact that he was mentally and physically unable to do the job, but for the fact they could put him in the basement, write the responses to all the questions that he needed to give, and keep him hidden.

A (10:32)

And really this, this, though, I think goes to a general set of theses. Not quite 95 theses, but a general set of theses that we have on this show. Which is what's the better approach to crime and criminal justice to make people safer? The Trump MAGA Republican approach or the Democrat left wing? You know, I think the data. And we'll get into some of this Clay, with Pam Bondi it's irrefutable. It turns out that backing law enforcement and enforcing the law and locking up criminals makes people safer, makes society safer overall. What's the better approach to the border if you actually want security? Enforcing immigration law or just letting everybody in and pretending they're asylum seekers? I think that experiment has also been running. And what's the better approach to the economy? Taxing the, you know, the absolute last drop out of everybody that you possibly can and the government spending as wastefully as it can and doing as much redistribution as it can or encouraging innovation, wealth creation and Americans doing what Americans do. I just, at this point, people just refuse to accept that their team has lost and they are wrong on the other side on all, on all of the major issues. And we're not even just talking about like the gender sports issue, which of course they've lost on as well. They're wrong. They're truly wrong. They're wrong on crime, they're wrong in the economy, they're wrong on the border. So everyone should feel good right now. Listen to this show because we've been right all along. I don't know what else to say. We're crushing them in reality.

B (11:59)

No, we're right and we've been proven right and the data continues to prove us right. And I hope you have kept your 401ks invested in the stock market and if you have, you're setting at all time highs. By the way, a couple of other stories that we will hit. Pam Bondi is testifying about the Epstein files on Capitol Hill. We'll see if there's anything more that's going to come out of that. We also have continued outcome the Nancy Grace, Nancy Guthrie story. Nancy Grace been talking about it a lot and unfortunately, Buck, another trans shooting that took place in, in Canada with 10 people who were who died as a result of that shooting coming on the heels of Minneapolis and coming on the heels of Nashville and and we're going to talk with Alex Berenson. I read yesterday I was kind of stunned. The New York Times basically we're talking about right and wrong. New York Times editorial they basically said hey, we got it wrong on pot. Marijuana is this stunned me Buck. And, and I couldn't believe it when I was reading this editorial. More people use pot now marijuana on a daily basis than drink alcohol. Were you as stunned by that as I was like to see that? That is the prevalence.

A (13:13)

I, I knew it would be much closer than anyone would have thought. Five or even 10 years. You know, five or 10 years ago, I wasn't clear that it would cross over. But I have a bunch of theories on this, and I have strong opinions on this, and we're going to. I think. I can't speak for you on this. I think some of my ideas on weed are going to upset some people, including people that I like on 90 or 95% of issues. But weed is a terrible and stupid and bad thing, and we were lied to. And this is one of the few times where I will say, I actually, I will admit to being bamboozled on. Weed isn't really addictive. It's not psychologically damaging. It's actually very useful in a whole range of medical things. That's. That's really not, you know, that that can be true in specific. So if you have glaucoma and you're going to tell us, oh, my God, it's the only thing that worked for me, okay? That's not why people are smoking weed, okay?

B (14:05)

That's.

A (14:05)

That's an outlier case, actually. That's not what's going on. 20 million people aren't smoking weed 21 days or more a month because of their glaucoma. All right? So we have to deal in what the reality is here. And Clay, it's a scourge. It's a scourge on people. And I'm here to tell them that. I'm here to get off my lawn with the weed.

B (14:25)

I'm the.

A (14:26)

I'm the American Taliban when it comes to weed. Do not want it in my neighborhood. Do not want it in my face.

B (14:31)

I. I think it's a great example. I give credit to the New York Times for saying we got it wrong. You saying you got it wrong. I'll admit, I. I did not think it was going to be as destructive as it has been to overall society. And. And frankly, I think a lot of that has to do. We'll get into this with the incredible strength of weed today, and some of.

A (14:51)

Our people are going to be mad at us on this. And this is where we're at the dinner table together as a family. And we're going to have it out a little bit. All right? You can get mad at us over this one, but we're here. We're here for you, to tell you the truth. And let's do this.

B (15:04)

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A (16:02)

I'm sitting here in awe of our radio team right now. Did you guys know that I was obsessed with the Stone Temple pilots in the 90s? I don't even.

B (16:11)

Did you just.

A (16:11)

Did I ever let that out? I loved STP. It was actually probably my favorite band in the 90s. So. Scott Weiland, RIP Amazing how many tragic how many of these guys. You know, heroin might a. Heroin and alcohol and all these things might be a spur to creativity for some people, but they're also really dangerous and take people's lives, Clay. You look at the number of these 90s bands that were really, you know, whether it's Nirvana and Stonetown Pilots and, you know, you know, the sublime. We lost so many of these guys to overdoses of one kind or another. Anyway, I love Stone Temple Pilots. I didn't know that that was now in our rotation. So that just kind of, I just, I just got overtaken by a little nostalgia moment.

B (16:55)

Well, we just, we just lost the three doors down guy who was willing to play at the. He's 47, I believe, but he was willing to play at the 2017 Trump inauguration, remember? Got completely dragged for being willing to do that and died, I believe. I don't, I don't want to miss diagnose what he died of, but unexpectedly at the age of 47. It wasn't drugs, it was cancer. I think now I'm misdiagnosing it potentially. But for those of you who, who remember that story, and also Toby Keith performed there too, and he's also passed, you know, just back to 2017 artists who were willing to take the slings and arrows of performing at a Trump affiliated event.

A (17:39)

Where are you taking us next, big dog? Where are we going?

B (17:42)

You know what? We got some numbers coming in on this super bowl halftime show. And we were right. It was a disaster for the NFL.

A (17:51)

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B (19:00)

Okay, let's dive into something that is a little bit fun, but also yet another thing we were right about. So the data has come out. Buck on the Super Bowl. And I said, bad bunny, bad choice for the Super Bowl. And people are still attacking me over this. I said, hey, you know what? The super bowl halftime show should be in span. Should not be in Spanish, should be in English, should be in. And I said, I just did Piers Morgan show right before this show started, so it's going to be up in a little bit. But I told Piers Morgan because Pierce was like, well, what would you say if Pavarotti were the halftime performer? I said, that would be a poor choice, Pierce. I don't even even.

A (19:40)

Come on.

B (19:40)

Even. Even if it is the greatest opera singer of all time, I don't think it would be a smart decision for the NFL to have an opera singer.

A (19:51)

Or anyone else doing the national anthem. That would be cool.

B (19:54)

Like, you know, there he's doing it in English. If it's a national anthem, I don't think it would be smart to do the national anthem in Italian. So although it would be maybe interesting to hear the data has come out. Buck bad bunny lost 10 million viewers, the most people that have ever turned off or left the super bowl for a halftime show in the history of the Super Bowl. Okay? And so I, I think this is a clear sign. Turning Point USA obviously got whatever it was. Six million live streamers on their YouTube channel. And other people just Decided to bail. I've said this before. It always has fascinated me. Almost always. The super bowl viewership peaks at halftime. So for those of you out there that say, well, I don't know why you care. I don't. Usually the biggest possible audience that is watching the super bowl watches at halftime. There are lots of people, as many of you know, because this is what frustrates me about the Super Bowl. As a big sports fan, tons of people come rolling into super bowl parties that have never watched an NFL game all year, and they talk loudly and they. And they distract me from being able to actually watch the game because I watch games all year. People like Buck, they come in and they're just chirping in the background.

A (21:21)

I knew, I knew this was going to turn into a little clay jiu jitsu move to put me in the kimura, because I don't actually watch chirping.

B (21:31)

In the background about all the other things going on in their life. And I'm like, I'm trying to hear what they're saying. I'm trying to watch the game. So. But it is the case that there were the most people to ever turn off the super bowl in the history of the Super Bowl.

A (21:46)

Real question, like, because I actually, when I've gone with you to college football games, I try not to ask a million questions. And you're actually very, very kind to explain the basics. So I have some idea what the heck is going on. Do you ever have to just be like, hey, guys, I need radio silence? Like, I can't answer. I can't answer all of your questions while I'm watching. You're in sort of a group set. Like, how do you handle that? Because I would assume everyone's like, clay, what do you think about that wide receiver choice? Clay, what do you think about the assisting coach who's doing the blah, blah.

B (22:16)

You are going to appreciate this. And I might be the only person on the planet who does this. I want to hear what the coaches say in the halftime interview, and I also want to hear in a post game interview what the coaches and players say. So the game ends and there's bedlam all around and, and regularly by poor kids. Regularly. I'm like, hey, pipe down over there. I'm trying to hear what he's saying in the post game interview or the halftime interview. Because occasionally you get information, you know, players injured and a coach is jogging off. And you can try to deduce from the interview. I don't know what percentage of people out there are like, Me and want to actually hear the interview. Now, the other thing, Buck that I will say is, and I don't know how many people are like me in this way, when my team is playing poorly and it's a team that I actually care about, I mute the broadcast. My wife has been making fun of me for this for years. I don't want to hear announcers basically cheering on the other team and talking about how amazing they look. I can watch a game without announcers and tell every single thing I need to know by and large about the game, with the exception of sometimes, like I said, an interview with somebody on the field. So I will often sit in complete silence watching games. During, during. While I'm sitting in front of my television, my wife will walk in, she'll be like, why? You're just sitting in a room, it's completely silent watching a game. Like, yeah, the game's not going well. I don't need to hear the announcers, you know, pile on about how crappy my team's playing. So I would say in general, I want the information, if it's useful to be, to be, to get from the, from the interviews. But yeah, like this, this, this idea, I do think it's a flaw. People are going to say, well, why does this matter? What is the lesson that should be drawn from it? I think it's that the NFL should be trying to reach the broadest possible audience. And some people are going to roll their eyes about this. But I do think American cultural experiences that are shared matters. Having something that everybody is experiencing together as one is something that that is. Should be aspirational. We have relatively few of those. And making selections on a halftime show that alienates the vast majority of the viewership because they have no idea what's being said or what's being done is a poor decision by the NFL. And I think they should reconsider going forward and try to get people very basically who speak English to perform at the halftime show.

A (24:48)

And I just have to say there's also been this. I like that he. Bad Bunny. What his name is. His last name is Ocasio, right?

B (24:57)

I have no idea what his actual name is. Is he even related to aoc? Are they brother and sister pretty well?

A (25:03)

I was wondering if there's some, some relation there, but I thought it was interesting that there was this. Spanish is now the language of anti colonialism. That is truly hilarious.

B (25:12)

Oh, that is a funny.

A (25:13)

That is a hilarious take that you are seeing online now from some people, like. Well, of course, like this is Spanish is the language like against. Against oppression of and the oppression of native peoples. It's like. So I had to do. I had to take to Twitter on this one or to X to be like, guys, nobody showed up with more brutal. And by the way, Spain, I love my time in Spain. I think Spain is a beautiful country, an amazing place. I think it probably saved Western civilization. Battle of Lepanto, a whole bunch. You know, the tours with Charles Martel. There's a whole lot. I'm very pro Spain, just to be clear. I think what Spain did for the world was a great Catholic country for hundreds of years, and it did amazing things. That all said, the Spanish showed up in the New World and they were like, we're going to take all your stuff. We're going to kill a lot of you. And anybody who doesn't do what we say, we're definitely killing you and burning down your whole village. It wasn't like the Puritans arriving in Massachusetts, trading corn with the natives at Thanksgiving or whatever it was.

B (26:09)

I hadn't seen this. That people are saying that Spanish is the anti.

A (26:12)

Oh, yeah.

B (26:13)

Language. Oh, it's very.

A (26:14)

Oh, yeah. Spanish is now the language of the oppressed or something. I'm like, well, you got to learn a little bit about how we got here, everybody. So, yes, it turns out if you learn your history, I mean, the. The Spanish, there's a reason they're called the conquistadors. They weren't showing up to, like, just settle. They realized that this. And this is how they funded the Spanish empire by just taking all of the gold. And there was tremendous gold, particularly with the Incas, but also with the Aztecs. They just took all their stuff. They had treasure galleons going back to Spain to pay for the Spanish empire and its wars in Europe. And they were absolutely brutal. Like, this is. It's just so funny to me that people are thinking this and then people are like, yeah, but what about the British and their role in the transatlantic slave trade? I'm like, oh, no, that's true. The British, for a couple of hundred years, were the second worst when it came to the transatlantic slave trade. Anyone, anyone at home want to know who they act by far, by far the. The biggest perpetrator of the transatlantic slave trade, The Portuguese. And where did they take all of the slaves? Mostly Brazil, the Caribbean, and parts of South America, but mostly Brazil. By far number one. So I just think it's interesting. Spain, Portugal, now we think of them as like, you know, like the. The motherland for Latin America and everything else. But man, they were the, they were the colonial powers par excellence. And they were rough. They were playing for keeps back in the day.

B (27:38)

It's also funny because anyone that actually talks about reparations, the idea is that the United States should be the sole payer of reparations. When to your point, Buck, Europe is actually responsible overwhelmingly for all of slavery in Africa. And of course people only focus on slaves from Africa, right? Despite the fact that for thousands of.

A (28:02)

The Barbary pirate slave trade in white Christians, which went on millions of people and went on for hundreds of years, went as far the North African slavers went as far as Iceland and Ireland picking off white people to sell into slavery. And this isn't, this isn't taught in schools. And people you tell them this, they'll be like, that's not true. Google it.

B (28:24)

Actually better Crockett, you'll see all true. It's actually, I think symptomatic of one of the great major issues that we have in this country, which is historical illiteracy and the inability to understand our country. But basically the whole landscape of the world historically, everything. I mean this is really, I mean this is intentional. The entire purpose of much of left wing cultural argument is to. They made it explicit with the 1619 Project Root all of American history and indeed all of Western civilization to slavery, which began in 1619. Which is why they tried to with Nikole Hannah Jones, New York Times, try to argue, hey, the real focus of America is not 1776 when we got independence, it's actually 1619. Because America is founded in the original sin of slavery and therefore nothing that occurred in America is legitimate. We can burn down the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, all of the great heroes of American life, they are illegitimate. The Constitution, all of the great heroes of American life, they are illegitimate. Because the true founding of America happened in 1690.

A (29:42)

Very darted in the early 1800s. So even before here in America and then in America, we fought a huge massive civil war with how many casualties.

B (29:53)

CLAY in total, 600,000 people died in a time when the population of the United States was I think only like 15 million or some 20 million. Like a huge percentage of people died.

A (30:03)

The British became a global anti slavery force. America said we can't allow this anymore here and then we had a very, you know, very bloody civil war to end that, to end that practice. What do the Portuguese and the Spanish do? You know, I mean, I'm just saying like where's their, where's their huge cost in Blood and treasure to make up for this stuff anyway.

B (30:26)

No, I mean, look, anybody who studies this, it is again, we are historically illiterate as a country. When you actually study the history of the United States and frankly the history of the world, you have a little bit more depth to be able to discuss many different issues.

A (30:40)

Here's something else for my, for some of my Latin American friends down here, including a lot of Brazilians. You know when, you know when Brazil abolished slavery, Clay, formally, It was like.

B (30:50)

1940 or something, right?

A (30:51)

Well, 1888, but late. That's late in the process.

B (30:57)

I mean go pull it, pull it up. I mean I'll ask Grok. Some countries did not that you know of did not abolish slavery until like World War II era.

A (31:06)

Well, this is the, there's a note, there's a note here that while they formally abolished it legally, Clay, thousands of people continued to work in effectively slave conditions for decades after the formal abolition in Brazil. But point here being everybody you all know, 1619 Project Portugal. How many people knew that? Just saying.

B (31:29)

I just groked it. So we'll find out. Some of these countries you're going to hear and you're going to be like what? Like this is unbelievable. Nigeria, for instance, Buck did not end slavery until 1936. Yeah, yeah. I mean there are people alive who were slaves in Nigeria. There you go. But I'll hit you with a couple of other of those that you probably don't hear about very much. Look, every living room and family room should have a Cozy Earth cuddle blanket during the winter months. Right now. The ultra plush cuddle blanket, all the rage. It's on sale this week. We've got them. They're amazing. We've got them in the Travis household. They are fantastic. Everything Cozy Earth makes is soft and luxurious including the cuddle blanket. And purchase is totally risk free. You get 100 day money back guarantee, 10 year warranty because this kind of comfort's made to last. Go online to cozyearth.com use my name Clay to get up to 20% discount on a cuddle blanket. And if you get a post purchase survey be sure to mention you heard about Cozy Earth right here one more time. Cozyearth.com is the website. Use the promo code Clay to get your discount on the purchase. That's cozyearth.com promo code C L-Y.

A (32:50)

Got a lot to talk about. So we just got deep into that history conversation which I hope, I hope.

B (32:55)

You let me hit you with some more countries bucks because we were saying you pointed out slavery in 1888. Here are some. I mentioned that. Nigeria, the 1930s, Oman, much of the Middle East, 1970, United Arab Emirates, 1964, Saudi Arabia, 1962, Mauritania, 1981. So again, and. And we should point out too, because some of you are popping off in there and. And making a point. There are still people who are enslaved in the U. In the world today, right? Like there are people that are in many countries.

A (33:35)

There are countries where there's still active slavery practices, by the way, African countries in particular, where that is still going on. And it's usually Arab Muslims or ethnic Arab Muslims who are enslaving black Africans, which also, you know, New York Times doesn't like to talk about that very much. Also, Clay, you mentioned Nigeria. Nigeria is in the opening chapter of this book, manufacturing delusion because I was there chasing the group. This is true story. Obviously it's in the book chasing the group that would become Boko Haram in the earliest days and checking out the radicalization that was involved the. The mosques in parts of Nigeria where nobody goes because it's super dangerous. And yeah, I think you should get a copy of the book, my friends. Go to clayandbuck.com if you want. You can get the special video download. Clay, we're entering the shamelessness zone, my friend. I need everyone listening to this show to buy this book. It's actually really good and I wrote it. Clay and I write our books, which, especially in the days of AI I think this is going to be. Clay. It's going to be a very unusual thing for people to write their books, but I wrote it, wrote every word. How the left uses brainwashing and Dr. Gay indoctrination of propaganda Manufacturing delusion.

B (34:40)

For the people who want to get.

A (34:41)

The audiobook that I did the audio, which Clay also told me was going to take a long time and drive me nuts, but it was really fun, actually, when it was done doing it wasn't that fun. Took forever. But the audiobook is me, your voice, yours truly, voicing it. So there we go, Clay. Everything you said about this process was true, by the way. It takes forever and I need everyone to buy the book or else I will be sad because it's a really good book.

B (35:06)

It's a lot of work. Go buy Buck's book. It'll be out on Tuesday. We'll be right back with all of you.

A (35:22)

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