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Co-host Buck Sexton
Welcome in Thursday Edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. It was a big 24 hours yesterday. We now have astronauts circling the moon for the first time since 1972 as Artemis 2 launched successfully. The astronauts will be up in space for one week as they circumnavigate. Is that the right word? Orbit the moon, Whatever the correct astrological term is. For those of you out there that were following that yesterday, President Trump addresses the nation last night. Continued discussion about do you have the
Co-host Clay Travis
correct term for did you say astrological?
President Donald Trump (voice clip)
Yes.
Co-host Buck Sexton
Well, I guess maybe astronomical too.
Co-host Clay Travis
Unless we're talking about Mars being trine, Uranus and Mercury retrograde.
Co-host Buck Sexton
Yes, you mean astronomical, astronomical, astrological. The stars of life. We will be breaking it all down for you. Maybe I'll read your tarot cards. And also Trump speaking last night. Price of oil up today been going like crazy, up and down, fluctuating from one hour to the next based on what is being said about the Strait of Hormuz. But Buck, some breaking news not yet reported by Fox News, which is the most plugged in inside certainly of the Trump administration of the news networks. But the lead story at cnn, the lead story at Ms. Now is a semaphore report that Attorney General Pam Bondi was told by President Trump yesterday that her time as attorney general is over. Now, again, it has the the New York Times has also now reported it. There have been multiple different outlets saying that it is true. There have been reports that Lee Zeldin, former candidate for governor of New York and congressman, current head of the EPA in the Trump admin, may be the choice to replace her. Again, that those reports are out there and we may have some official news on that, Buck, if that were to occur, if Pam Bondi were to be out as attorney general, coming relatively closely on the heels of Kristi Noem being removed, then I think it's a little bit of a sign that we are in a, a period of time where Trump is maybe making, I mean, remember, we had a lot of stability, that Trump is making a lot of moves right now while he still has Senate control and he can easily replace cabinet members. To me, you're looking at this now and saying, ok, we don't know how November is going to go. We have a limited majority in the Senate. Given that you have to get confirmation for anyone that comes in for these jobs, then now is honestly the time to make a move so that you can definitely get those confirmations taken care of. Mark Wayne Mullen was fast, but again, this news just breaking in the last 30 or 45 minutes.
Co-host Clay Travis
And look, I'll say this out of Christian kindness and charity. We did not get into the latest really of another cabinet member who recently departed the administration because you know what, nothing really to say there other than thoughts and prayers with hope that things get sorted out going forward. I'll just leave it at that. On the DHS side of things, Clay, you know, people can find those stories. It's not worth getting into here because it's on. It's honestly sad. It's a sad situation. So I'll just put that there. It's coverage everywhere. We haven't gotten into it in this case with Pam Bondi. We gave this administration Our job is to comment and to inform. Right. We inform you with the news. We spend all morning, all night. We're texting back and forth trying to bring you. And we're obviously going to talk about Trump's Iran address last night, talk about some of these other breaking news stories today. But that's really, you know, and then third, we're all hanging out together, basically. Right. That's why when I see some of you and I saw some of you at the book event and listen to the show, it's like we already know each other, because we do already know each other. This is just my way of saying we gave this administration. Trump did an incredible thing with this victory, and he made a lot of really good choices in the Cabinet, and he made some that I thought were questionable. And you know what? He's making better choices now, or rather, he's adjusting as needed to get the best team in place he can with still enough time before the midterms that I think Clay, to your point, being able to get it through the Senate can get on task and make things happen, it's never going to be perfect. Trump went with a few people who I think were more loyal than competent, and he is adjusting as necessary for the good of the mission and the good of the country. And that's, that's my, that's my two cents on that one. I'm paid for my two cents. That's my two cents.
Co-host Buck Sexton
I would say that the Epstein files 2.0, the binder, the influencers and the answers to the Epstein questions have been the biggest swing and a miss of Trump 2.0. And much of that falls at the feet, I believe, of Pam Bondi. So if she is on her way out, as there are reports, and again, some of these people who claim to be incredibly well sourced in the White House are not always correct. But we have not seen any direct denial, at least in the last hour or so from the White House to these reports.
Co-host Clay Travis
I would like permission from the judge to do a brief sports analogy.
Co-host Buck Sexton
Yes.
Co-host Clay Travis
Of a different kind. And it is. So give me a little leeway with this one. Your Honor, when you're playing tennis, one of the biggest things. And I'm talking to my rec tennis players out there. Okay. Not the semi pros and the pros who are going to flood my DMS and be like, I could beat you. I know. Sure. I'm sure you can. When you're playing tennis, there are two kind of mistakes because it's really about who makes fewer mistakes. 90% that's who actually wins, right? Two kinds of mistakes. Right shot, wrong shot.
Co-host Buck Sexton
Let me say that, yes, this is such good advice. Most of success in life is not people doing things to you. It's you not screwing up the choices that you make. And people won't acknowledge it. They won't realize it. It's easier to expect that there's some external force destroying your success in life. Most of the time, it's you. There's our TED Talk. But it is a good.
Co-host Clay Travis
And I promise, first of all, that is very good advice. Second of all, consistency is one of the most underrated things, not just in tennis, but in life. Mean being able to be consistently good, consistently. Reliability is kind of a synonym for it in this context. You know, you get it done. Day after day, you get it done. Why am I talking about this in the context of the Attorney General? There are shots that you miss, Clay, where you're like, you know what? I missed it. But it was tough. It was the right shot. I was under pressure or I had the advantage. It was the right shot. I just missed it. And then there are the shots where you really got to rethink things like, what am I doing? That was a dumb shot. The Binder thing was not a tough shot that you just missed. That was a dumb shot. And the whole rollout of it and all that stuff with, you know, so you can. You can very easily, in your mind move past, okay, that was the right shot. Even though I missed it with Pam Bondi, she was picking wrong shots. And you can't do that. You can't do that at that level. You're just going to get smoked. You're going to lose. And she wasn't getting it done for the administration on that. She was loyal. I think she's a good American. I think she's a good person. I have nothing against Pam Bondi. I think she served honorably. She just wasn't ready for this level of the game.
Co-host Buck Sexton
Lee Zeldin reportedly going to get elevated again. We'll see. Let me just mention a name. If there is such a thing as contemplation of other candidates. And we likely. We've had him on the show a lot. I think Ron DeSantis would be a great attorney general.
Co-host Clay Travis
Phenomenal.
Co-host Buck Sexton
I just, I don't know what Ron DeSantis plans are, because for those of you out there in Florida, I know you're. You love the governor, and he's done a phenomenal job, but he is done basically in November. And so I don't know that he would want to step away from being governor. But if you told me right now, hey, who has a job outside of the administration that you think would be really good as Attorney general? I think Ron DeSantis would be a phenomenal attorney general. Now Lee Zeldin is in the administration. That may be the easier idea for Trump to take somebody who's already a part of his Cabinet. He may feel like he has a better working relationship. All those things are true. But if the White House came to me, not that they will, and they said, hey, who do you think would do a really good job outside the administration? I would give him Ron DeSantis. Here's another one. And again, I don't know that he would give it up. Ted Cruz would be a really great attorney General too. Both of those guys, I think, would do an elite job of managing the overall Department of Justice. Now, again, Lee Zeldin maybe as well. And there is the fact that he's already in the administration and it's going to be a lot of challenges on the midterm. And so if you're going to make a move, Buck, I think it's smart to do it now in the spring before we get into the summer chaos of election season.
Co-host Clay Travis
This is, this is time to clean house. And like I said, I actually, I understand why Trump with, with one exception, and I was pretty, I think everyone knows who that would be. From my perspective, I understand why he went with the picks that he did, because given what he was under with the four indictments and the people who abandoned him, the people who turned on him, his own vice president came, former vice president came on the show and said he wouldn't pardon him if he was going to prison. I mean, I can understand Trump saying we have to have loyalty because we have to be a cohesive unit in this administration. We can't have leaks. We can't have people that think they're single handedly saving the country and the Constitution. You can't have any of that. That said, there are some changes that need to be made and he's making those changes. So I see this as the right progression for Trump under the circumstances. I'm seeing reports there may be a couple of other changes and none of the changes that I'm seeing he may make are surprising. And they're not people who I would say are, you know, it's not that they're corrupt or bad people or didn't try their best. They may just not be the best fit for this role in this administration. At this time. And that's okay. Which is why, I might add, you'll notice the way Trump is, if he does put out a tweet on a truth, a tweet on Pam Bondi here, he's going to say, pam was great, she served her country, we appreciate her, and everyone should show her all due respect. And that's all true. But this is the way to do it. Not to let things drag out, not to get caught up in the political scrum of the midterms. Clean house now with the best team. You know, he's got it. He's got to treat it, Clay, like he's the coach of a team in a big game, you know, totally. Sometimes, sometimes QB1 needs to sit on
Co-host Buck Sexton
the bench for a few minutes and it's possible. Again, if you lose control of the Senate, getting your cabinet members confirmed is going to be tough. And once you get into the campaign season, it's going to be tougher. So now is the time to make a move. Let me play this, and then we'll go to break. We'll come back and talk some about this. President Trump last night. So that's potentially brand new breaking news for all of you, as is being reported, and again, there's lots of news that's reported that doesn't end up being true. But there are multiple places talking about it right now. Uh, okay. Trump said yesterday, Buck, we're going to hit Iran extremely hard over the next two to three weeks. I thought this was potentially the most significant thing that he said last night. This is cut eight.
President Donald Trump (voice clip)
Thanks to the progress we've made, I can say tonight that we are on track to complete all of America's military objectives shortly, very shortly, we are going to hit them extremely hard over the next two to three weeks. We're going to bring them back to the Stone Ages where they belong. In the meantime, discussions are ongoing. Regime change was not our goal. We never said regime change. But regime change has occurred because of all of their original leaders. Death. They're all dead. The new group is less radical and much more reasonable. Yet if during this period of time, no deal is made, we have our eyes on key targets. If there is no deal, we are going to hit each and every one of their electric generating plants very hard and probably simultaneously.
Co-host Buck Sexton
So that is where we are. Buck, we'll come back, we'll talk a little bit about that. As the situation in Iran continues to play out, we'll update you on what oil and gas prices are doing. As much of the focus now has shifted to the Strait of Hormuz and how the ships are going to be able to traverse that area. 800-282-2882. We should also mention we got a bunch of guests for you, Sean Harris, and we'll talk a little bit about this more going forward. But he is running as a Democrat in North Georgia. He reached out to us. He wanted to come on the program. In the new guidelines of the fcc, we're going to try to follow them. And given that we are on 600 stations, if Democrats sometimes ask to come on and or accept our invites, we're going to have them on. We'll ask them tough questions. We'll give an opportunity. Unlike the ladies of the View and unlike a lot of other places, we're going to do actual balance of the follow the law.
Co-host Clay Travis
I want to be clear. You guys know how we do this. We're going to let them talk because radio, where you talk over each other is just a garbled mess. So we're going. So don't expect it to be Rock Em, Sock Em, Jerry Springer. If some of these Democrats who want equal time come on the show and we're going to be respectful too, we're going to ask them real questions we would want to ask, but we have to let them respond and talk. So it's not going to be some kind of verbal melee, at least unless they insult SEC football and then I can't hold Clay back. That's, that's, that's on them. Fair. Yeah. If they go there, that's on them. When you switch your cell phone service to Pure Talk, you're not only saving money every month, but you're supporting a wireless provider who sees the world the same way we do, a company that shares our values. Pure Talk service is on the same network and towers as other wireless companies, but at a fraction of the cost. Check this out. $25 a month for unlimited talk, texts and plenty of data. Compare that to your current cell phone bill and calculate the dollars you'll be saving every month. PureTalk's team are all based in the US only takes about 10 or 15 minutes to make the switch. You'll keep your phone, of course, and keep your number. So do what I did. Switch your service to PureTalk. Dial pound250. Say the names Clay and Buck to switch to PureTalk. That's pound250. Say Clay and Buck to switch to America's wireless company, PureTalk.
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Cancer Patient Advocate
need to be healthy every day to
Co-host Clay Travis
survive it and go through the next chemo round and the next chemo round.
Cancer Patient Advocate
So it's important that work was part
Co-host Clay Travis
of that to keep my mind busy
Cancer Patient Advocate
for eight, nine hours and then I had to go back and face the reality. I had a goal and the goal is to survive.
Co-host Clay Travis
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pledge@workingwithcancerpledge.com so I watched the Trump address
Co-host Clay Travis
last night on Iran. No big surprises really. Just reiterating a lot of what Trump had been saying in recent days about this campaign. He said that this is not about regime change, that the military operation has been incredibly successful and that this was, this is stopping Iran from, he says, ever getting a nuke. But he also discussed time. We didn't play eight yet, did we? So many of these clubs. Okay, my short term memory goes on radio unfortunately. 8. Here it is.
Co-host Buck Sexton
We did, we did play.
Co-host Clay Travis
That's why I asked you that one. But all right, so then we're going to play seven here because these two got jumbled up my mind. Play seven. Thank you.
President Donald Trump (voice clip)
They were involved in the attack on the USS Cole and they carried out the countless other heinous acts, including the blood, just horrible, bloody atrocities of October 7th in Israel. Something that most people have never seen anything like it. This murderous regime also recently killed 45,000 of their own people who were protesting in Iran. 45,000 dead. For these terrorists to have nuclear weapons would be an intolerable threat. The most violent and thuggish regime on earth would be free to carry out their campaigns of terror, coercion, conquest and mass murder from behind a nuclear shield. I will never let that happen.
Co-host Clay Travis
That's the big takeaway here, Clay. He's just saying there will never be a nuclear Iran and this is a huge step in that direction. He obviously gave the timeline which you mentioned before. This is, this is where we are. I, I think that Trump feels very confident that he's going to get to the end state here that he sought from the beginning.
Co-host Buck Sexton
Totally. And what I would say is I feel very confident this is all going to be done by May 1st. And I've been saying that for a little while. You know, the two to three week timeline. Trump likes to publicly negotiate. It could happen before then. But if you are out there and you're looking at oil and gas prices, know a lot of people are, I know what it feels like to, to look at those, to stand there and think, oh man, this is way more than I anticipated. I think they will start to come back down sooner rather than later. And as we get into the driving season of the summer, I think they'll be reasonable relative to past years. That's my prediction. But I want to tell you, Sabre makes a huge difference for so many of you out there. How many of you have kids that are currently maybe working in the evenings? Maybe you got grandkids that are working a little bit late. Have you ever thought maybe we could have pepper spray for them? It would make things a little bit safer than it is right now. Could be a tremendous difference for you and your family. Maybe you want to have protection at the home, but you got kids and grandkids around a lot lot. And you don't want for there to be lethal means to protect yourself. Maybe you're a little bit nervous around guns. Saber home defense launcher delivers seven powerful impact or pepper projectiles, two more than most competitors. Protection doesn't stop at the front door. There are so many amazing products that they offer. We have them all in the Travis household. You can get hooked up now. Go to sabreradio.com that's S A B R E radio.com 84483 welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Okay, let's, let's dive into this a little bit. We got a couple of different takes that I, I just, I can't not play this right now. Katanji Brown Jackson Buck is Joe Biden's final curse on the United States. We talked about yesterday when Joe Biden said, I will only put a black woman on the Supreme Court. I believe, team, look this up and make sure that I'm right. I think 2% or 3% of lawyers are black women in the entire country. So in one fell swoop, Joe Biden said, I'm not going to consider 97 or 98% of all lawyers in America for the Supreme Court. And as a result, we now have Katanji Brown Jackson and Buck. It feels like every single oral argument there is another viral. I can't believe this is real Ketanji Brown Jackson clip. And I tweeted this yesterday and I said, we only have about 30 more years of this. But it is the truth that the most consequential decision from a personnel perspective that almost any president will make is who he puts on the Supreme Court. And Ketanji Brown Jackson, I believe, is 56 years old. So if we think that she's going to serve for another 25 or 30 years, we're going to have to prepare ourselves for more and more of this. And this was the question that she asked, having to do with, with yesterday's hearing on birthright citizenship. I want you guys to listen. She compares it to stealing a wallet in Japan.
Cancer Patient Advocate
I was thinking about this and I think they, there are various sources that say this, that you can have, you obviously have permanent allegiance based on being born in whatever country you're from. That's what everybody recognizes. But you also have local allegiance when you are on the soil of this other, other sovereign. And I was thinking, you know, I'm, I'm, I US Citizen am visiting Japan. And what it means is that, you know, if I steal someone's wallet in Japan, the Japanese authorities can arrest me and prosecute me. It's allegiance, meaning can they control you as a matter of law? I can also rely on them if my wallet is stolen to, you know, under Japanese law, go and prosecute the person who has stolen it. So there's this relationship based on, even though I'm a temporary traveler, I'm just on vacation in Japan, I'm still locally owing allegiance.
Co-host Buck Sexton
This is, look, lawyers often think based on analogy, Buck, because it is an important part of the law to subtly alter fact patterns and consider how the implications of your decisions might apply in situations that have not yet arisen. That's an important part of the legal process. This is so moronic. Everyone is subject to the law of the jurisdiction that they are physically present in. This is not a complicated. I'm sorry, this is just not a complicated issue. So the fact that she is somehow analogizing birthright citizenship with committing a crime in a foreign country and not recognizing that this is just absolutely preposterous is just a sign that she doesn't grasp intellectually the heft of the decisions or even is able to grapple with them buck in a significant, intelligent way, as lawyers should be able to do.
Co-host Clay Travis
And in that sense, she's actually the perfect Democrat Supreme Court justice because it doesn't matter. She doesn't even have the ability. You know, Kagan can sit there, think it through, figure it out. Sotomayor a little bit more, I think, than Katanji Brown Jackson. Not really. I mean, Sotomayor is pretty dumb. Just, you know, for a lawyer, not dumb for a person, but for a lawyer, not. Not somebody that should. Not a Supreme Court justice. That's the point. For a Supreme Court justice. These are supposed to be the most brilliant legal minds in our nation of 360 million people. The most brilliant legal minds. That is what we are supposed to be getting. Ketanji Brown Jackson. Look, if somebody wants to prove me wrong, I don't think she had the LSAT score if she wasn't a black female applying under the affirmative action regime to get into whatever state school, state law school she was from. I'm just telling you, I don't believe it. I don't think she had the ability. And this was a real thing. The Supreme Court had to take this up. There was a whole regime for decades of. Yeah, you actually have like two standard deviations lower scores for the LSAT than your peer group that's going to be in this class or. But we're going to let you in because of superficial characteristics and the history of discrimination or whatever. That's reality. That's reality. And this is now because. What's her whole justification for being in the Supreme Court? She went to Harvard Law School. Ok. Where's the ability that we were supposed to see that got her into Harvard Law School? They used to demand that presidential candidates remember this under the Bush Kerry regime. Bush Kerry administration.
Co-host Buck Sexton
Rather not.
Co-host Clay Travis
That'd be fun. They were president, vice president. They was. Show us your SAT scores. That was the big hit that the Democrats put on George Bush until they found out that I think he. Who had higher SATs, guys, Bush or Kerry? It was very close. And their grades at Yale, Bush had better grades. So this was their whole thing was. Bush is so dumb, by the way, not even that your grades at Yale necessarily makes you smarter dumb, but your ability as a lawyer. This is why it matters. By the way, also true of doctors, LSAT score, MCAT score corresponds very highly with your actual success and ability at the peak of that profession. It's just. It's just the truth. It's just the reality of it.
Co-host Buck Sexton
I have no business being on the Supreme Court. I would be, and it's very humble of better. I would be an infinitely better Supreme Court justice than Katanji, Brown, Jackson. And some of this, Buck, I'm just insulted by. You mentioned Sotomayor. You and I work a lot to be prepped, Ted Read. To be ready to talk to everybody out there in this audience every day. It's a privilege to do this. And I think we have a responsibility to be well informed because many of you are busy and your job is not to know everything under the sun about this news, right? So I work really hard. You work really hard. We read a lot. We're constantly working. I'm insulted. I'm insulted. As a citizen, when there are nine Supreme Court justices, that job is unbelievably transcendent for a lawyer to be able to have. And they won't do the bare minimum of work even though they have completely elite staffs, Buck, that are often drafting their opinions, that are putting everything in front of them and saying, just read this.
Co-host Clay Travis
But they've never had to. This is the point. She's never had to do the work, Clay. She's always been told, you're brilliant, you're the greatest. You're by the same with Sotomayor. You're brilliant, you're the greatest. The whole system has propped up this cohort of people at the most elite levels of their profession. And I want to be very clear. A lot of people get very low sats and have a lot of different kinds of smarts and creativity and go on to have incredibly productive and brilliant lives. This is not a knock on people that didn't do great on standardized tests or SATs. In law, at the very highest level of understanding the complexities of law, it's like, hey, when I'm telling you you're going to have a brain surgeon, I'm not saying who's going to sell you a car or who's going to start a, you know, a really elite H Vac business in your town that's going to make him a millionaire. All things you can do with that high. If I tell you, Clay, you're going to have a brain surgeon. But his MCAT score was in the 10th percentile. How do you feel about that?
Co-host Buck Sexton
Not good.
Co-host Clay Travis
If you tell me that, that the guy who's fixing my H Vac is great, everybody thinks he does a phenomenal job. But he got like a, you know, a 900 totally sat. I'm like, well, he's great at H Vac. I don't care. Like, he's a businessman, like. But there are some things where it actually matters, and the Supreme Court is one where it matters. And there was a whole generation where the. All the law schools were doing this and everything else. And we just. We saw a plan. Obama was the president of Harvard Law Review. Never actually wrote anything for Harvard Law Review. Just they made him the president of it because, oh, he's Obama. I mean, they gave him a Nobel Peace Prize because he became president. This, the whole DEI regime, we're going to be dealing with this for a long time. But people are. You have to be able to be honest. By the way, if I'm wrong, if Ketanji Brown Jackson got like a. What's really like a 170 or something on the else at. Which is super elite, I apologize. And she should let that out there and everybody can know. Okay.
Co-host Buck Sexton
Yeah.
President Donald Trump (voice clip)
And.
Co-host Buck Sexton
But by the way, it still wouldn't change the fact that she's not preparing.
Co-host Clay Travis
Yeah, yeah, right.
Co-host Buck Sexton
I mean, if that. That's the insult to me, because, you know, remember when Sotomayor said, I don't even remember what the number was, but they were debating whether you should be mandated to get the COVID shot. And she said something like, there were a hundred. I think she said, like, there was a hundred thousand kids hospitalized right now with COVID And you just looked at it and you said, you haven't done the bare minimum of prep. You're ignorant.
Co-host Clay Travis
Yeah.
Co-host Buck Sexton
And it's a willfulness to not do the work. And so when she's making an analogy like that, this is a supremely important decision, as most are, that reach the Supreme Court. It's complicated. A lot of brilliant lawyers have argued other sides to get to the point where we say, hey, we got to have the nine final arbiters of what the law is. Look at this. And you know, Katanji Brown Jackson, the same week was the lone dissent in the 8 to 1 decision over whether you can try to have conversion therapy so called in Colorado. She is just a left wing blue sky poster who Joe Biden put on the supreme court. And for three the next 30 years. You can even see the frustration coming from Elena Kagan and even from Sotomayor. Certainly we talked about Amy Coney Barrett, who is maybe the kindest sounding. You know, I listened to her and I was like, she sounds like somebody who puts you to sleep reading a book with her voice. And she took a two by four tour.
Co-host Clay Travis
I mean, I'll just tell you this. I looked this up. I was curious. The, the, the average difference. You can just find this stuff online now, again, because this has all come out. This used to be forbidden to talk about. Like you couldn't discuss this if you were at college. Everyone would yell at you and shout, this is just facts. This is reality. And it was a policy of racial discrimination that these universities did engage in for decades and still try to engage in. But now they know that it's unconstitutional. They're not allowed to do this. So they can't shout you down because you're saying, hey, you're breaking the law. That doesn't really work anymore. The difference, Clay, for Harvard students between the average black student, the average white student at Harvard on the LSAT is at least 10 points difference. To understand this, that's the difference between being in the 98th percentile or the 70th percentile. It is a huge, huge differential on that test. Enormous 98 percentile versus 70th.
Co-host Buck Sexton
Yeah, the Bell curve on this gets really altered in a hurry. I think the numbers were. When I did it, Buck, if you get a 160 or above, you're in the 85th percentile. So if you're talking about a 10 percentile drop, like the one points on the LSAT. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. But the 160s and the 170s, it's not, you know, people look at that and they, and they, and they hear, oh, you know, she got a 148 or a 150. And they think, okay, well that doesn't sound that much different. The difference between a 150 and a 160 is like 30 percentile points.
Co-host Clay Travis
Yes.
Co-host Buck Sexton
I mean, so you're talking about sub, sub, sub 50 percentile for some of these. It's really staggering. And again, if she were doing the work and I was hearing these questions and I thought to myself, okay, she's actually putting in the time. It's just an embarrassment that she's on the court. And frankly, I think it's unconstitutional because by Supreme Court precedents, you can't do what Joe Biden did to put her on the court. You can't say, I'm only going to consider black women for a job anywhere. That's. That would be a flagrant violations of civil rights law nationwide. So why is it allowed for the Supreme Court for Joe Biden to have come out and say, I'm only going to put a black woman on? And again, the team looked it up. That eliminates 97 or 98% of lawyers nationwide. So you're immediately saying, I'm only picking in the 2 to 3% of the population pool. What are the odds that when you say that about anything, you get the best person for any job if you immediately on its face say, I'm only considering that, not just imagine, take it outside a race. If you said, I'm only considering people for the Supreme Court who are five foot or shorter, I think a lot of people would say, well, that doesn't seem like a good idea. Right. Or 6 foot, 8 or taller, whatever the math is.
Co-host Clay Travis
You know, on the other side of this, I would just argue, I think Justice Clarence Thomas, a black man, which you will somehow, like, never really hear. You'll never really hear about him in the Democrat media. Justice Clarence Thomas is, I think, arguably one of the giants of the court of all time. I think has a tremendous legal insight, wisdom and knowledge, and proves, whether you agree with him or not, all the time with what comes down under his name, that he deserves to be there. So, you know, it's just a question of, do you want. You want, you want people that can handle this stuff or not? Justice Thomas can handle the legal reasoning, is a brilliant guy, knows a hell of a lot more about this stuff than me or Clay or a lot of the people out there listening who are actually lawyers. Catanja Brown Jackson. I think I know more about the law than she does. I'm being honest with you. I think we could sit around and get into this without her staff there. I'd be like, give me a month to study. I think I'd probably be.
Co-host Buck Sexton
I said, I have no business being on the Supreme Court. I'm licensed in two different jurisdictions. I've been a lawyer now, licensed for what, 22 years? I think I would be infinitely better than her, and I should not ever be infinitely better as a Supreme Court justice than anyone when there's only nine of them and they're at the absolute apex of the legal profession. By the way, I was right. Sotomayor during those Debates said over 100,000 kids were currently hospitalized with COVID I think the number was like 120. I mean that is unacceptable.
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Co-host Buck Sexton
Hey, how you doing?
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I'm good man. What's up?
Co-host Buck Sexton
Well, I guess, I guess out my biggest problem right now is that outside of Republican circles there's just no one supporting Trump.
Co-host Clay Travis
In other words, there's no TV ad,
Co-host Buck Sexton
there's no computer ads. I mean, the Democratic Party is right out there and they're admitting it, that
Co-host Clay Travis
they want open borders for the votes
Co-host Buck Sexton
and they don't care about the crime, they don't care about the young girls who are being assaulted. You know, they're attacking ice in the streets and they're making it totally obvious
Co-host Clay Travis
that they support open borders for the votes. Okay, well, did we lose them there?
Co-host Buck Sexton
I'm not sure exactly. Yeah, look, there's a lot of bad arguments. I think we're 40 a lot of the arguments from President Trump. Pretty well we will dive in. We got some numbers on how many babies are being born to non US citizens going to blow your mind next?
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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Episode: Hour 1 – Time to Clean House
Date: April 2, 2026
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts
In this episode, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton dive into the latest political headlines, including major cabinet shakeups under President Trump, breaking news on the fate of Attorney General Pam Bondi, escalating tensions with Iran, and a critical discussion about the selection of Supreme Court justices — specifically Ketanji Brown Jackson. The hosts employ humor and candid commentary as they analyze the administration's moves, critique Democratic policies, and address issues of meritocracy in the legal system. Memorable moments arise from their sport and law analogies, pointed critiques, and insightful takes on current events.
"If Pam Bondi were to be out as attorney general, coming relatively closely on the heels of Kristi Noem being removed...Trump is maybe making a lot of moves right now while he still has Senate control and can easily replace cabinet members." – Clay Travis (04:54)
"Trump went with a few people who I think were more loyal than competent, and he is adjusting as necessary for the good of the mission and the good of the country." – Clay Travis (06:03)
"There are shots that you miss...right shot, wrong shot...with Pam Bondi, she was picking wrong shots. And you can't do that. You can’t do that at that level. You're just going to get smoked." – Buck Sexton (08:28)
"We're going to hit them extremely hard over the next two to three weeks. We're going to bring them back to the Stone Ages where they belong." – Donald Trump (13:49) "If there is no deal, we are going to hit each and every one of their electric generating plants very hard and probably simultaneously." – Donald Trump (14:31)
"He's just saying there will never be a nuclear Iran and this is a huge step in that direction." – Clay Travis (20:16)
"In one fell swoop, Joe Biden said, I’m not going to consider 97 or 98% of all lawyers in America for the Supreme Court." – Clay Travis (22:58)
"She doesn’t grasp intellectually the heft of the decisions or even is able to grapple with them...as lawyers should be able to do." – Buck Sexton (25:06)
"The difference, Clay, for Harvard students between the average black student [and] the average white student at Harvard on the LSAT is at least 10 points difference. That’s the difference between being in the 98th percentile or the 70th." – Clay Travis (33:00)
"The Democratic Party is right out there and they're admitting it, that they want open borders for the votes and they don't care about the crime, they don't care about the young girls who are being assaulted." – Caller Rick (41:04)
"Clean house now with the best team...you’ve got to treat it...like he’s the coach of a team in a big game." – Buck Sexton (12:53)
"In law, at the very highest level...it’s like, hey, when I’m telling you you’re going to have a brain surgeon, I’m not saying...who’s going to sell you a car or...HVAC business...If I tell you...but his MCAT score was in the 10th percentile, how do you feel about that?” – Clay Travis (30:09) "I'm insulted as a citizen, when there are nine Supreme Court justices...they won’t do the bare minimum of work even though they have completely elite staffs." – Buck Sexton (28:24)
"The whole system has propped up this cohort of people at the most elite levels of their profession." – Clay Travis (29:32)
"We're going to hit them extremely hard over the next two to three weeks. We're going to bring them back to the Stone Ages where they belong." – President Trump (13:49)
"If I'm wrong, if Ketanji Brown Jackson got like...a 170 or something on the LSAT, which is super elite, I apologize. And she should let that out there." – Clay Travis (31:23)
This episode is a fast-paced, candid exploration of the turbulent political landscape under Trump’s leadership as midterms approach. Clay and Buck focus on the importance of timely and competent cabinet appointments, presidential foreign policy (especially regarding Iran), and vigorously debate the merits and consequences of affirmative action in Supreme Court appointments. Compelling analogies, sharp critiques, and direct listener engagement characterize an hour heavy on insight and lighter moments — all underpinned by a call to “clean house” at the highest levels of government.