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Clay Travis
We are rolling on the Tuesday edition of the program. I had to think there for a minute.
Buck Sexton
Always first hour, Tuesday edition. I got you. I got you.
Clay Travis
Always good to get the day right, right out of the jump. Buck and I have already done one interview this morning as we are promoting the continued growth of the show. We got some good news coming for you on the growth of the show in the near future, which maybe should just go ahead and tell you, but we'll see. So we are continuing to track everything going on in Minneapolis. Whoopi Goldberg has interesting takes. Of course he does. On. And by interesting, I mean absolutely insane. And the rhetoric has been taken to a completely absurd level as the fallout of Minneapolis continues. Plus, lead story, lots of different places out there. There is a social media lawsuit that is alleging that basically social media companies have been rigging the sort of the algorithm, but taking advantage of the way that people's brains work. Go figure. In a way that's not dissimilar to cigarettes. And I'm curious what people's reaction to all of that is. We may have a big, broad based discussion on that as I see that lawsuit starting. And it is one of the top stories across the board. But right now the ongoing battle that is being fought is what is going to happen in Minneapolis as Minneapolis has emerged as the foremost opposition to the Trump 2.0 agenda. And President Trump just talking with the media this morning had this to say about Mayor Fry and Governor Walz and the conversations he has had with both. Let's play cut one.
Donald Trump
I had two very good talks. I had Jacob Fry and I had Governor Waltz. And I mean, they were, they were great calls. So let's see how they report it. But they were very nice calls, very respectful. What we need is their criminals. You know, they have criminals and all. I said, just give us your criminals. And if you give us the criminals, it all goes away. They're there to pick up murders. I don't know if you saw, but it was a couple of days ago announced that crime is the lowest in the history of our country, the recorded history of our country. That's a big statement. That's because of us. That's because we go into cities and towns, usually we're embraced. Sometimes when Chicago is like pulling teeth with Pritzker and with the mayor, the mayor of Chicago, low IQ person, and usually we're embraced.
Clay Travis
Okay, Buck, so this is the argument that I think the White House should pivot to, and I give Trump credit for kind of intuiting it. To me, the fact that we are at 125 year violent crime low and the fact that our border is 100% secure and we have begun to kick out violent criminals is not coincidental. So if you want this country to be as safe as possible, which I think most people do, then it's going to require that we aggressively kick out violent predators who shouldn't be here. So I think linking the 125 year low in crime is a no brainer. And I actually think the White House has done a poor job of connecting the work that they have done, particularly on the border and as it pertains to illegal immigrants with the decline in overall crime. So I like the President doing it. I think we need more of it.
Buck Sexton
Look, the initial messaging and we didn't address this much yesterday from DHS director or Secretary Noem was bad. It was a. There was not the right stuff to say about the situation that had unfolded there, which is why now they're playing cleanup. You have to get the comms right on this stuff. You cannot give the other side real opportunity to point to misrepresentation of fact or gross overstatement of things. And unfortunately, and I think this is why there's a bit of a personnel shuffle underway, but unfortunately, some of the GNOME statements were, they were bad, they were wrong, and they were not wise things to say at that time. By the way, I'm not passing judgment one way or the other on the agents involved in the shooting of Pretty. That's his name, right? Pretty is. Yeah, I'm not passing judgment on them. I am saying the higher ups, and specifically the head of DHS Nome, did not handle this well. And that is a reality that the Trump administration is dealing with right now. And I think that that's because Secretary Noem up to this point has been able to just go all in on whatever she thinks the most hardline position is. And that has been what we've needed up to this point. But in a situation where the facts need further review, you don't go to some maximum position, not. Not supported by the facts, because now you've created a problem. That's part. That's why there's a little bit of a. Of a moment here for the administration that is. That has resulted, I think, in this reassessment about tactics and even strategy in Minneapolis. That said, Clay, I believe this is an absolutely critical moment. This is a moment of either clarity or honestly retreat on the issue of illegal immigration enforcement. We should not be making concessions about. And it's not clear the administration is doing that. I'm just saying this is. The decisions are being made right now, I mean, in these moments, in these hours, about how this is going to proceed. And the resistance, if you will, is for the first time, really emboldened. They're emboldened by what they see as a crack in the facade. They see a crack in the, you know, a break in the dam, if you will. And you even have this judge. I'm sure you saw this, Clay. A judge, Patrick Schlitz, has called for the head of ICE operations, Todd Lyons. Acting Director Todd Lyons, to appear before him in court. You have a judge demanding a federal law enforcement. Senior federal law enforcement officer personally appear before him because of a case that the judge says that he put out an order on where there's supposed to be a bond hearing. But, I mean, Clay, this is like a federal judge saying, hey, there's a case, and I don't like what's, you know, the delay in the case. So I want the head of the FBI to show up before me and answer for this. My friends, we cannot negotiate with domestic terrorists. We cannot cave to sabotage operations.
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Buck Sexton
We cannot allow the resistance judiciary to subvert federal policy. And, Clay, I'm very concerned that people are starting to lose a little bit of their spinal stiffness over this.
Clay Travis
Yeah, it's going to happen, and it's going to happen because there are, unfortunately, a lot of people that are not truly committed to the idea of removing illegal immigrants. And we. Look, it's so important to think about how this is going to play out. We have told you exactly what was going to happen. Now, to be fair, year one, getting as many violent criminals out of the country is the top focus. Year two, in order to get illegal immigrants out of the country, you're going to have to start to just take illegal immigrants out of the country, some of whom do not have violent criminal backgrounds. And that is where it becomes politically more challenging, because this is where the. The actual argument to me needs to be put forward and Democrats need to be put on the record. How many illegal immigrants is okay, right? I mean, to me, that's really what the debate is over. And Democrats, by and large, Buck, it seems to me quite clearly think the answer is the numbers that we have now are fine. That's based on their action. And this is also maybe we should get Gardusky on to talk about this, because I was reading his analysis of this this morning. Bu the real battle, if you're like, why is this really going on? What's really the stakes here? It's the 2030 census. The more and more I look at this, the more and more I focus and say, this is all about the 2030 census and you're out there. And you say, well, what do you mean by that, Clay? In 2030, Democrats are facing a truly existential crisis when it comes to the electoral college because they are going to lose a ton of seats. There's going to be a major swing in population that is finally taken into account and is continuing to skyrocket even to this day. And the states in the south, red states, overwhelmingly are adding electoral votes, adding congressional seats, and blue states are losing them. And the easiest way to sum this up is Kamala Harris could have won the presidency if she had gotten about 230,000 or so more votes. If she had won Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, she would have won thanks to the vote that she got in Omaha, Nebraska, she would have won 270 to 268 even if she lost the popular vote. If she had won Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin in 2030, that pathway no longer exists. In order to be elected president, Democrats are going to have to win some combination of Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona, or they're going to have to take away some of the bedrock red states and they're panicked over this. Buck, that's really, I think, what this battle is about, because the future map for Democrats is really bad. And they don't really have a pathway to win the House or win the win the presidency based on the arguments that they're putting out there right now. So why are they fighting so hard? They need these illegal immigrants to be counted in the census or they're going to lose even more seats in 2030. That's the story here to me.
Buck Sexton
Well, also, this is going to put an end to their favorite game of replacing the American electorate with people from the third world who are going to be multigenerationally, as we see in Somalia, Somalis in Minneapolis, dependent on welfare, the largesse of the State, the transfer of wealth and including sometimes large scale fraud for these new immigrant communities, like they want that to continue. And if they can just open the borders and invite in the third world and then say, guess what? You're as American as everybody who's been here and every multi generational American and everybody, they really just disintegrate our political union. I mean, over time this ceases to be a country, it's an economic zone, it's a welfare ward, a soup kitchen for the world. And that's what they want. Because then you have the everlasting enlargement of the state and you have the reality of a multi trillion dollar welfare state just getting larger and larger and larger all the time. And so it suits Democrats just fine. You'll notice this. They talk about how the next Google founder. No, they actually want people showing up who don't speak the language, who don't have any political allegiance to American history or American culture or anything else, who come here and go, where's my stuff?
Clay Travis
Yep.
Buck Sexton
And that stuff is taken from all of you, by the way. All of you Americans of all different colors and religions. That stuff is taken from you and then given to these people who arrive here. That is the reality. And Democrats don't have a way of explaining this, Clay, that is better than what we are seeing right now. So that is why they want the violence in the streets in Minneapolis. They want to pretend it's the Gestapo. They have to emotionalize the issue because ultimately what they've engaged in is the disintegration of our sovereignty and the mass transfer of American wealth to the third world.
Clay Travis
The Supreme Court, if you told me right now, Clay, what case out there should they rule on? I think we need a Supreme Court ruling on whether congressional seats should count illegal immigrants for purposes of allocation. Because I would argue that that absolutely should not be the case. And if you eliminated that incentive, I think a lot of Democrats policies and positions on the border would change very rapidly because they would recognize that they're not getting a benefit. The studies out there suggest that counting illegal immigrants for purposes of the congressional seat allocations is getting Democrats 10 to 20 additional seats. In other words, they would have no chance of winning the House. But for illegal immigrant populations being counted, I cannot imagine, Buck, that the United States, our founders, ever thought that illegal immigrants, people who were not allowed to be here because it was so hard to get here back in the day, that we would be counting people who are not American citizens for purposes of representation, there's a 0% chance that they would have been in favor of that when this country was founded. And frankly, I don't think the Supreme Court would sign off on this now. I think a case on this should go to the Supreme Court and it's of the essence now before we get to the 2030 cycle. The Supreme Court should decide this in advance of the 2030 census. Look, we got hit hard by this winter storm here in Nashville. There's still over 100,000 people without power, 100,000 households, way more than 100,000 people in my community of the Nashville area. One of our listeners, he reached out, I told you this story yesterday, said he's got a daughter who is a student at Ole Miss. All the power is off by and large in Oxford, Mississippi, one of the places that got hit the hardest in the country. And he said the only way he could get in touch with his daughter in the wake of this storm was Rapid Radios. It's a great opportunity to put into your into your overall repertoire for dealing with catastrophe. Whether it's hurricane, ice, storm, tornado, whatever might happen, flood. If you want to be able to stay in touch with everybody, even in times of disaster, we Rapid Radios is smart to have in your home. 5 day charge that will last a long time will allow you to stay in touch. Low cost and right now you can get off to up to 60% off their most popular radios. If you go to rapid radios.com today and get an exclusive deal that won't last long. Elevate your connection, your experience. Rapid Radios communication redefine. Get hooked up now@rapid radios.com that's rapid radios.com make sure that your family is taken care of in the event of catastrophe. Rapid Radios.com Saving America One thought at a time. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.
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Buck Sexton
Right, welcome back into Clay Ann Buck, you know, we had a whole series of discussions about this a few days ago. I forget what the day was. But we're saying you want to do things tactically, right. Because otherwise you can make mistakes and give the other side give the other side wins that they can build on. Well, let me read to you from the New York Post here. A federal appeals court rejected a bid by the DOJ to force the arrest of former CNN anchor Don Lemon and four others over the weekend after a lower court judge refused to sign off on the warrants to take them into custody. The three judge panel, made up of Obama appointee Jane Kelly and Trump appointee Stephen Graz and Jonathan Kobiz, denied the request by the Trump administration to take Lemon into custody over the January 18th demonstration inside the city's church in St. Paul, Minneapolis. In a brief concurring statement, Judge Groz said prosecutors had clearly established probable cause for all five arrest warrants, but the government has failed to establish it has no other adequate means of obtaining relief. Ok, Clay. Unanimous ruling. They wanted to arrest these guys. They put out a and guess what? The judges said no. And now the DOJ has withdrawn the arrest requests. So when we say things like for what crime and people are getting mad at us and saying just arrest them, this is what happens when you just want to arrest them. You get a judge that says not happening. And now Don Lemon is smiling with a big win on, on his side of the ledger. Just saying this is what just went down.
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Clay Travis
Look, and the judiciary is the primary opponent to the Trump 2.0 agenda and they're just going to try to run out the clock against him. I think you have prepare for this if you're the Trump team and people.
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Were saying the process is the punishment, which is a buck line.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show President Trump is talking live to reporters as he heads to Iowa. And so we will. He's headed to to the helicopter right now answering questions. We will give more details from that interaction with the media as those clips come out. But right now he is talking to everyone. By the way, I wanted to say this before we dive into a bit more details here. Buck. Happy birthday to my oldest son, Fox. I now have an 18 year old. I have a adult male. I have raised a child to majority. I told him this is true joking because it's good, somebody will clip it. I told him this morning I texted him congratulations on being 18. Now you get to go to war in Greenland. That was a joke. But, but he is now 18 and so it's kind of crazy for me to think that I have a truly adult son. But congratulations to my oldest. I've got an 18, a 15 and 11 year old. I blocked one day and 17 years and three months. You'll have an 18 year old and you'll look back and you'll say I can't believe how quickly this time has gone by. Anyway, so happy birthday to him. It is crazy for me to sit around and think about he got for his birthday a snow day, no school, which is not bad here in Nashville as we continue to deal with really more of an ice day than a snow day.
Buck Sexton
We are at the fun opposite ends of the dad timeline here because your little boy is all grown up now, at least to be Be an adult. And my little boy is going to be. Well, he's halfway. I'm counting the months still. So he is nine months, but he's reached that phase now, Clay, where we're feeding him and he has realized that he gets quite a reaction out of us if he turns into like a human food sprinkler system of just like, throwing the food everywhere. Not only from us, Mommy and Daddy being like, no, no, no. Like, don't. You know, he just could, like. And he can fling it too. Man, he's got a pretty good arm. We may have a QB on our hands. Legs like a linebacker, but arm like a qb. I'm just saying. That's what I'm seeing. But also Ginger now just camps out like.
Clay Travis
Like a.
Buck Sexton
Like a wolf at the bottom of a tree with a wounded duck atop it waiting for food to drop down. It's. It's quite a scene here. So it's very different.
Clay Travis
Okay, so that is happy dad stuff. Back into serious story situation in Pennsylvania. Sorry, in Minneapolis. So Julie Kelly, our friend, sent this tweet and I want to read it to you. She says CNN is now reporting Alex Preddy broke a rib during a separate altercation with officers a week before he was shot. Um, and here is the quote from cnn. The earlier incident started when he, that is Pretty, stopped his car after observing ICE agents chasing what he described as a family on foot and began shouting and blowing his whistle, according to a source who asked not to be named out of a fear of retribution. Pretty later told the source five agents tackled him and and one leaned on his back, an encounter that left him with a broken rib. The agents quickly released him at the scene. Pretty was later given medication consistent with treating a broken rib, according to records reviewed by cnn. Ok, so, Buck, this guy involved in multiple different altercations. I liked what you said yesterday. He was not a protester. He was really an obstructionist. And I think it's better to use that language associated with him.
Buck Sexton
Maybe I might just have to, like, tax the administration. These are sabotage operations, or you can call them obstruction operations if you want, but they are really sabotage operations. You can borrow from the military terminology on that. They are sabotaging law enforcement. That has nothing to do with having their voices heard. No one cares. They can sit out and freeze their butts off. Like I said, as many of them as they want. As long as they want with their placards and their, you know, ICER Gestapo and their purple hair turning to icicles. We don't care. It's when they get in the way and physically block and threaten and harass law enforcement officers. That's when we've got a problem. Because it's illegal.
Clay Travis
Yeah, 100%. And my question here, as it pertains to this, Buck, would be, why didn't they arrest him then? Because if they had arrested him then, and if they had charged him with obstructing a lawful arrest, which in theory it sounds like based on the evidence from the CNN report, would have been justified, why in the world this situation may not have occurred if he had already been arrested? Maybe he thinks twice about deciding to continue to protest if he's already got an arrest on his wreck. Just a question that I would have. Because if the ICE agents felt compelled to tackle him to stop him from being involved, that also might lead Buck to the question of why he had a gun. Again, we're getting in his head. He can't answer these questions. But I wonder if he had the gun last time, he may have brought the gun this time, thinking, oh, if they try to tackle me again, then I'm going to engage in violence against them. In other words, if he had already had one interaction with ICE agents and he got a broken rib because he was trying to obstruct their. Their arrest, maybe he truly was bringing this gun. I don't think that's a crazy proposition because he felt like he needed protection and was willing to engage in actual violence in the event that this incident happened again, just throwing it out there as a potential motive for why he had a loaded handgun with him at this event that he was obstructing.
Buck Sexton
Well, and the situation matters tremendously. The facts, the details of this. I'm seeing a lot of, you'll notice that people. And I saw like even Trey Gowdy. Remember we had him on the show and he was sounding like a gun grabber. And I was shocked. I was like, trey, what. What are you doing here, buddy? He's like, I think we need laws to ban AR15. I'm like, Trey, that is not helpful. That is not where we are. I'm seeing people that are saying, well, if you believe in the Second Amendment, then you think it's fine to bring. Okay, well, hold on a second. Yeah, because a lot of us believe very strongly in the Second Amendment. As I said to you, there are. And this is very state to state, but people are saying, well, he didn't brandish, ok? And I'm not saying that the guy deserved to be shot. I'm just talking about the Totality of the circumstances here and the reality of any culpability of an accidental, you know, shooting situation here, or rather a, you know, mistake of being under threat from shots going, a shot going off. If I get into an argument with somebody who pulls me over, or rather, you know, cuts me off in the street and then I say, you know what I'm gonna pull, I'm gonna then cut them off and I'm gonna make sure that I have my gun in my waistband. Then I'm gonna get out of my car and I'm gonna confront them. All that will be taken into account if I end up using that firearm. Bringing a gun to a situation where you are expecting physical confrontation with officers, this is why the broken rib thing matters so much. This is why the totality matters. Bringing a gun with you when you are expecting to wrestle cops is inciting and it is insane. All right.
Clay Travis
Yes.
Buck Sexton
So I don't want to hear any of these people who suddenly care about the second Amendment. I don't give a damn about the second Amendment, by the way. Suddenly they're all, oh, but you can bring guns to a protest. Hold on a second. You can bring guns to stand in a protest with your placard, but if you're going to go wrestle a cop with a gun on your hip, and you know, that is your plan and this guy knew what his plan was. Sabotage operations, not protests. You're inciting, you're trying to create a confrontation that is inherently going to be dangerous and lethal because you brought a non law enforcement owned firearm into that scuffle. It's a very bad idea.
Clay Travis
Yes. And there is a difference between something you can have the legal right to do and something that is intelligent to do. And that distinction is an important one. You can have the right to do a lot of things that are actually, when you look at the specifics of them, moronic. And again, I think this is really important, the CNN revelation, because if you know, if you know that you have already been tackled by ICE agents because you're trying to obstruct their, their ability to do their job. And then you bring a loaded handgun to another incident where you're trying to obstruct ICE agents. And Buck, remember he interjected himself into this situation too, because they were trying. My understanding based on looking at the videos is they were trying to arrest a woman and he decided to come in and try to, in some way, it looks like, make their arrest of that woman more difficult. If you knew you were armed and you were reasonably rationally intelligent. Why in the world would you get into a wrestling match in any way with ICE agents? This guy was not only trying to obstruct ICE from doing their job, he was making a very poor choice that unfortunately led to his death. I'll be honest with you, Buck, and I bet most people out there agree with me. If this guy didn't have a gun and he engaged in the exact same behavior, he would still be alive today. They would not have shot him. I think there's almost a zero percent chance that he would have died if he had done the exact same thing and he just hadn't had a gun on his body. Now, it's unfortunate because it looks like maybe there was an accidental discharge. Maybe these, these ICE agents then panicked.
Buck Sexton
Accidental or negligent, depending. I mean, I think it's more likely negligent.
Clay Travis
But, yeah, some form or fashion, a gunshot went off and that led to, it appears, based on these. This. These details. So if he hadn't had the gun, maybe he didn't have the gun probably when he got tackled the first time and got a broken rib, because I think probably they would have arrested him if they had seen he was armed at that time.
Buck Sexton
At some level, Clay, at some point, this just turns into a. A different version of. But this a similar moral calculation to Hamas putting all of their command centers under hospitals and schools and Israelis, the IDF doing everything they can not to blow up a hospital or school, but they also can't allow Hamas to keep firing rockets, rockets from those locations. And then eventually Hamas gets what they want, which is a building is hit that they don't mean to. And there are some civilians who are killed, and that is tragic. And they go, look at how evil they are. That is ice. I mean, anti ice maniacs running into these guys, causing all this mayhem with their rape whistles and, you know, wanting to get pepper sprayed and then flay. I've seen this routine before. They run up to the cops, oh, you're so terrible. And the cops pepper sprayed them and they're like, what did they do to me? And they're flopping around on the ground and they're the videos.
Clay Travis
Like, I'm just a protester.
Buck Sexton
I've seen this routine. Enough is enough. But Clay, the Trump team, they got to hold the line on this. I'm telling you right now, if they do not hold the line, we are going to look back on this as the breakthrough moment for the, for the demonic left. It's very bad. I, you know, Trump, Trump and the team I don't know if you're listening. You should be listening. Do not break on this.
Clay Travis
Cut 27 this just happened. Trump specifically asked about an investigation into the shooting. We'll play this then we'll maybe play a couple of more cuts. But let's play this before we go to the break here. Cut 27 well, you know, we're doing a big investigation.
Donald Trump
I want to see the investigation.
Clay Travis
I'm going to be watching over it.
Donald Trump
I want a very honorable and honest investigation. I have to see it myself.
Clay Travis
Okay. It's a little bit hard. He said he wants an honorable investigation that he and honest that he's going to see for himself. He also said Kristi Noem is not going to be stepping down. We'll come back and we'll react to that a little bit. I know it was hard to hear because the helicopter is going off in the background there as he's answering questions outside on the south Lawn of the White House as he prepares to get on the the elevate the the helicopter there. I want to tell you prize picks available in all 50 states. California, Texas, Florida, Georgia, all 50 states you can play along. We won our pick on the NFC championship game 3 to 1. I think that's the fifth win we've had this season, which is pretty good. I think if you had played along with us every single week, you would be in the plus category. But more importantly, you would have just had a little bit more fun and you can join us and you can play along and have a good time if you like football. And Russia's audience always way over indexed for football fans. In fact, Russia almost bought an NFL team back in the day. If some of you guys remember, used to be called the St. Louis Rams. Now they're in LA. Maybe they'd still be in St. Louis if Russia bought them. You can download the prizepix app today. Use my name Clay as the code. You get $50 instantly in your account when you play $5 prizepix.com code clay I'm going to give you a Super bowl pick. Everybody's going to be watching the super bowl. Maybe the most watched super bowl of all time. I'll give you a pick. You can have a little bit more fun at your super bowl parties. Tell people that you are playing along. All 50 states you can play prizepix.com code Clay that's prizepix.com code clay C L A Y Patriots radio hosts a couple of regular guys, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free IHEARTRADIO app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
Five good five books. It's a look. Writing a book is a hugely time consuming thing and most people who write books make virtually no money from them.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, I mean, this is not a money thing. It's not anymore. It used to be.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
To try to do. We're going to be trying to do that. Have fun. Look, there's a lot of battles to fight, but we're going to try to create a little bit. Got to pay attention. You never know when you might get a under under the radar movie reference.
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Episode: Hour 1 - Trump Addresses Minneapolis Turmoil
Date: January 27, 2026
Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show (iHeartPodcasts)
In this episode, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton dive into the aftermath of recent unrest in Minneapolis and the Trump administration’s response. The discussion revolves around President Trump’s statements on the situation, the political implications of immigration enforcement, legal battles concerning protests and law enforcement, and how all of these issues intersect with the looming 2030 census and electoral politics. The hosts analyze both the strategic decisions being made now and their potential to reshape the country's political landscape, especially as Trump navigates intense opposition from both within and outside the government.
[04:47]
President Trump's Statement: Trump recaps conversations with Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey and Minnesota Governor Walz, describing the calls as “great” and “very respectful,” and emphasizes his administration’s focus on targeting violent criminals, asserting that crime is at a 125-year low because of federal action.
Hosts’ Analysis:
Memorable Quote:
[06:31]
Buck criticizes DHS Secretary Kristi Noem for initial mishandling of the situation, suggesting her statements were “bad” and “not wise” given the need for careful communication in an evolving crisis.
He notes the administration is now reassessing tactics in Minneapolis and underscores that this is a “critical moment” for the Trump 2.0 agenda regarding illegal immigration enforcement.
Judicial Pushback:
[10:20]
Clay argues that the root of the current battle is the 2030 census, stating Democrats depend on counting illegal immigrants to secure congressional seats and the electoral college.
The hosts believe Democrats fight to keep current illegal immigrant population counts because, without them, “they would have no chance of winning the House.”
Buck warns that open borders undermine national identity and sovereignty, accusing Democrats of aiming to turn the U.S. into “a welfare ward, a soup kitchen for the world.”
[22:16]
Buck shares news from the New York Post: A federal appeals court rejected the DOJ’s bid to arrest Don Lemon and others following protests; the judges (from both parties) denied arrest warrants.
Clay frames the judiciary as the “primary opponent” to Trump’s immigration agenda, predicting ongoing court resistance and attempts to “run out the clock” on enforcement.
[27:44]
Discussion around Alex Preddy, the individual fatally shot in Minneapolis:
The hosts speculate whether Preddy brought a gun to subsequent events because of past encounters—implying a willingness to escalate.
[36:44]
Buck compares the situation to conflicts abroad, suggesting activists are knowingly creating dangerous confrontations for propaganda purposes.
Both warn the Trump administration not to “break” or concede to left-wing “sabotage” or protest tactics, framing this as a pivotal fight.
Trump, when asked about an investigation into the shooting, calls for an “honorable and honest investigation” and says he will personally oversee it.
Clay Travis, on Democrats and the Census, 15:32:
“Counting illegal immigrants for purposes of the congressional seat allocations is getting Democrats 10 to 20 additional seats... I cannot imagine... our founders ever thought that illegal immigrants... would be counted for purposes of representation.”
Buck Sexton, on sabotage operations, 29:09:
“They are sabotaging law enforcement. That has nothing to do with having their voices heard... It’s when they get in the way and physically block and threaten and harass law enforcement officers—that’s when we’ve got a problem.”
Clay Travis, on legal rights vs. smart choices, 33:40:
“There is a difference between something you can have the legal right to do and something that is intelligent to do... If this guy didn’t have a gun... he would still be alive today.”
Listener Call (Jason A., 46:03):
“If they give in one inch to this plangent chorus of losers and purple-headed knuckleheads, I’m gonna take my MAGA hat and I’m gonna put it in a drawer... He’s about to lose me.”
— Buck reassures, “Don’t quit on him yet, Trump. Don’t ever, don’t ever bet against Trump on this one.”
Hosts’ Personal Notes:
Media & Pop Culture References:
This episode is vital listening for anyone following the evolving political and legal battles over immigration enforcement, urban unrest, and the Trump administration’s strategy for 2026 and beyond. The hosts make clear that events in Minneapolis are a flashpoint with national ramifications, framing the judiciary, census politics, and media narrative as battlegrounds just as important as the police lines on the streets.