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Clay Travis
America is changing and so is the world. But what's happening in America isn't just a cause of global upheaval. It's also a symptom of disruption that's happening everywhere. I'm Asma Khalid in Washington, D.C. i'm Tristan Redman in London. And this is the Global story.
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Every weekday, we'll bring you a story from this intersection where the world and America meet.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
And this is Sarah. Hi.
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Clay Travis
Marketing dollars in podcasting back in June. Business is booming.
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Clay Travis
When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why Benghazi?
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Buck Sexton
The truth became a web of lies.
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Clay Travis
From prologue projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.
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What difference at this point does it make?
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Clay Travis
Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are rolling with all of you Thursday edition of the program. I have joined Buck in the free state of Florida. I'm in the northern part of Florida. He is in the absolute most southern, nearly part of Florida. But we have got the entire sides of the state covered. I'm on the panhandle bucket. I know you talked about when you were in the Highlands how everybody who comes up is super. I bet per capita the panhandle of Florida, particularly down in the beach area, may be the number one most indexed. I love you, Clay and Buck. Audience in all of America So this is fun. I'm in Panama City beach for the next couple of days. Um, and we are monitoring a bunch of different stories that are out there. Uh, President Trump is, as we speak, I believe, unless something has happened in the last couple of minutes on a phone call with Vladimir Putin, Trump is Buck. He's feeling it. You know, when you, you know, he got the role going a little bit, maybe whatever your game is, table stakes. Hey, J.B. pritzker, $1.4 million. We have some fun with that. And gambling earnings last year. Did you guys see that? The governor of Illinois. But you have the. Maybe you're on the craps table and the roles are going your direction. Maybe you've just hit blackjack against the dealer and you got some money in your pocket. Maybe you just hit on a few of our prize picks winners. But President Trump is feeling it right now. He's got the peace agreement in the Middle east, and he now is stepping up. He's got Zelensky coming into the White House on Friday, and I think he's increasingly emboldened at his hand, so to speak, and the string of victories that he has put together. And I think he has expectations that he's going to be able to find peace in this Ukraine and Russia deal. And it's going to be interesting to see what his negotiating lever is. We got a bunch to get into. But right off the top, Buck, it seems like right now Trump has decided that, that maybe the way to get peace is to make Russia fear if the war continues. Right now, there is no fear. If you look in the Middle East, I know a lot of people disagreed with you and me, but we were right. The strike in Iran basically let everybody know, okay, there are consequences if we step outside the lines of acceptable behavior. And right now, there are no consequences for Russia. Those consequences can be economic as it comes to oil and gas, and Trump has tried to bring that to bear on India. But it seems, and I'm not sure he's officially going to do it, but it seems that Trump has decided that giving Ukraine weapons that can reach into Russia and directly attack Russia's ability to produce oil, which is what is the money funding source that is allowing this war to continue, that maybe Trump is at least willing to threaten, if not actually willing to do it. Does that kind of seem to be your read from a negotiating standpoint and what exactly is at stake here or what's going on?
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Buck Sexton
Yes, and we should dive into some of the specifics here. I would just add to it that there's also the very high stakes negotiation with China going on over trade over tariffs, where on the 1st of January, as of right now, it's supposed to be 100% tariff going into effect on Chinese goods which that this is true trade war stuff. And when 100% tariff isn't a little surtax, that is now the products will no longer be competitive, entering the US Market at the current, at the current rates. So that's a big deal. China is thinking that they can outmaneuver Trump by cutting rare earth minerals to the rest of the world. This is a very complicated topic on its own because rare earth, we have rare earth minerals here, we haven't been mining them. I think a lot of this is because the environmental lobby and concerns about, oh, the mining is going to be so terrible. So China's been doing it and now China is this massive provider of rare earth to the whole world. You need these things for the electronics that we all now rely on for our day to day lives. So, so the China negotiation play is heating up right at the same time we are entering now another phase of the Russia negotiation which you were laying out. Here's my sense of this. I do not believe that Trump is going to get a deal on Russia, Ukraine this time around either. I think that Putin still believes that he is taking territory. He may give some indication of progress via words meaning Putin and we're going to revisit this. I think that Putin squarely and strongly believes that he will continue to strengthen his hand and gain more territory with the battlefield at status quo. And even Trump saying I'm going to bloody your nose on this if you don't stop is not going to be enough. You're going to have to see an actual change in what's happening on the battlefield because of U.S. weapons and support and then maybe you can get to a deal. You know, I think Trump has to turn up the heat, not just threaten to turn up the heat to get to any kind of meaningful, just cease fire, never mind peace deal.
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Clay Travis
Okay, so let's build on that. To what extent is giving Ukraine offensive weaponry going to lead to a more significant battleground, A more deadly, a more serious. Remember that Russia has nukes. Do you fear that if we accelerate the weaponry on Ukraine side that Russia will accelerate the use of weaponry on their side? Because that's the rationale for which giving Ukraine weapons that could strike into Russia have not been done to this point. Do you buy that as a fear that Russia will accelerate or increase the level of violence that they bring to bear.
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Buck Sexton
I do not, I think that Putin will make noise about that, but I think that there are a few reasons why he wouldn't do it. For one, you have Russian and Ukrainian troops in essentially a trench warfare standoff in very close contact such that if this was used, even a so called tactical nuke used on the battlefield, you would be taking, I think, a substantial risk to your own forces, most likely. Now people could say, what if you nukes Kiev or goes deep into the interior? Well, that's a massive escalation beyond what we have even seen. That would bring, I think the international, you know, forget about the international community. America, the uk, even China at that point would be like, what the heck are you doing? And you might have reprisals, you might have a response from nations that, you know, get takes us to a very scary place. I don't think that they're willing to do that. I don't think they would do that if we started, if they start lobbying missiles into Moscow, maybe. I mean, there, there are red lines the Russians have, but I don't think that more effective weapons on the Ukraine battlefield against the Russians results in Russia deploying and, you know, using a nuke. That would be a very scary world if that happened. And I know that this is very, very high stakes poker, but keep in mind they've been dangling that threat this whole time. I think at some point people have to be willing to call the bluff on it. I'm not sure that Trump is, I'm not sure how far deep down this rabbit hole Trump is going to go, but I also think that he recognizes the, hey, Vladimir, let's be reasonable, let's be, let's be reasonable men here. Does not work. That's not going to work with Putin. He is not reasonable in the sense of how we view reasonableness.
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Clay Travis
I think it comes down to fear. I think the only thing that Putin responds to is fear. And I don't mean that he's physically fearful. I mean that he is afraid somebody might be willing to be as nasty to him as he is clearly willing to be to them. And I think Trump has come to see that that might be necessary. And I think you hit on something important here, which is the China component. I wonder to what extent a peace deal that could be brokered might involve China starting to step away for just a short period of time from purchasing Russian oil because Trump brought the hammer down on India. And to be fair, a lot of this Russian oil embargo is complete BS by which I mean, people say, oh, we're not going to buy Russian oil. They're invading Ukraine. This is unacceptable. And so Russia share sells the oil to India at a discount. India then marks it up some and sells it back to the rest of the world. It's a ridiculous shell. It's not a bad business for India. Right, because they're getting reduced oil gas cost and then they're able to still sell at a reduced price as the middleman. But this whole idea that we've cut off Russia's outlets to the rest of the world with their oil is a total shell game. And Trump has recognized it. He's put the pressure on India. Now, will China bend in any way? Because really, if you want to curtail the financial might of Russia, you have to end a fake game. Here's the other thing they could do, and there has been some discussion about this much of it in Europe. Start letting Europe use all of the frozen Russian assets that have been seized in overseas bank accounts to pay for the war against Russia. That, to me, is something that could get Putin's attention in a significant way as well. I think, Buck, it is around 200 or $300 billion that has been seized in Russian assets in European banks, by and large. And if you just give all that money to Ukraine and say, okay, boom, go buy all the, all the weaponry that you want and we'll let Russia fund the war directly against Russia, I think that might well get a lot of their attention and it feels like to me, a significant step that should be taken.
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Buck Sexton
Yes, there's a lot here that that could be done. Again, I think Trump is going to have to do it. I don't think that the talking about it to Putin, even from President Trump, is going to result in any real change here. That's just based on how this has gone so far. I would also say one of the challenges that we have and clay this came up even in my discussions with the Taiwanese leadership in Taipei. One of the challenges is that even when America now wants to sell, not give sell weapons to allies so they can defend themselves, we run into capacity problems. We don't have the World War II, all of the above. What was a factory for cars is now a factory for tanks. We don't have that economy anymore for understandable reasons, but that's not the situation we are in. So we can't even ramp up the production of some of even things as straightforward as artillery rounds for the Ukrainian fighters, so. Or Ukrainian army. So that's a challenge that we run into here as well. So we can give them more advanced systems, but just giving them part of the problem is that Russia can just put more men and materiel on the battlefield with a whole lot more in reserve. And our ability to try to match them for the Ukrainians in any meaningful way is constrained by. We can't make this stuff fast enough. Yeah. So that's another problem that we're running up against here, you know, and you can't just build advanced factories to make whatever it is, you know, the various missile systems. There used to be a lot more defense contractors. There were dozens in the, I think even back in like the 80s. Now it's really just four that are the primary or is four or five. But they're just a handful that are the major defense contractors. And they're not going to operate at a loss with capacity they don't use. So they're just churning out what they're churning out. So there's complexity here to the battlefront that Ukraine is on that we have to take take into account here as well, that Trump has to take take into account when he's doing these negotiations.
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Clay Travis
One other bit of news there that could be favorable is we're now into mid October. By mid November, the mud becomes so significant, according to everything that I've read, because winter arrives in Ukraine, that the battlefield movement and attacks diminish substantially, meaning we may now have several months where there isn't any ability to move the lines in an aggressive fashion that might facilitate peace. Now, to the extent that Putin feels like he's captured as much territory as he possibly can. By the way, several other stories out there, again, we begin with that because Trump is on a call with Vladimir Putin as we are beginning the show with all of you, John Fetterman, big story in Axios that Democrats are unhappy with him and maybe bringing a challenge in the Senate process primary in 2028 in the state of Pennsylvania, AOC says Republicans are leading young men astray with their toxic masculinity. Mom Donnie went on Fox news with Martha McCollum as the new York City mayor's race inches closer and closer. Just about three weeks away there and maybe things in Virginia are more competitive than we thought. Obama has had to drop an ad for Abigail Spanberger in that Virginia governor's race. We'll continue to follow all of that with you, but we want to tell you the headlines out of Israel this week speak of joy, relief and hopefulness for meaningful peace now at hand. Millions feel that way, but there's still a large segment of the population rebuilding their lives, their homes, dealing with the after effects of being targeted by missile attacks and worse. You should know our partners at the ifcj, that's the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. They're still on the ground in Israel, providing valuable assistance to the part of the population that desperately needs help. They've been at this for 40 years now. The Fellowships brought Christians and Jews together to solve big problems facing the Jewish people in places like Israel and the former Soviet Union. One of those problems? Feeding the hungry and those without necessary means, including Holocaust survivors. I saw the work the foundation does on the ground. It is absolutely incredible. The work that they do is immense and frankly, fantastically important. Every day, the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, they're on the ground hand delivering boxes of food to feed the comfort and comfort the poor. You can put your faith into action by taking part in the IFCJ mission. To find out how, visit ifcj.org that's ifcj.org making America great again isn't just one man, it's many. The team for 47 podcast Sundays at noon Eastern in the Clay and Buck podcast feed. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
America is changing and so is the world. But what's happening in America isn't just the cause of global upheaval. It's also a symptom of disruption that's happening everywhere. I'm Asma Khalid in Washington, D.C. i'm Tristan Redman in London, and this is the Global Story.
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Every weekday we'll bring you a story from this intersection where the world and America meet.
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Clay Travis
Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
All right.
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. So we had some interesting stuff going on the political front the last 24 hours. One story that Clay mentioned to you, which I think he's going to want to dive into momentarily. Fetterman has been speaking far too reasonably and making far too much sense. So much so. So much so that the Democrats are colluding behind the scenes to perhaps run a primary challenge against a Democrat senator in a very important purple state. Think about that for a moment. So Fetterman is I. Clay, if we gave out trophies here, Most Improved award. I think you got to give the most Improved award to Fetterman. Well, in a whole bunch of ways. And good for him on that one. We'll also talk about the Mom, Donnie, sit down with Martha McCallum. Mamdani is this guy's going to be a problem for New York, I can tell you that. And he may have his sight set even beyond New York City. I'm starting to see more and more to indicate that after he's. We haven't thought about this in a while because de Blasio, Clay was such a loser when he tried to run for president. Mayor of New York can be a platform that turns into running for president. You know, Mom, Donnie tried it.
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Clay Travis
Wasn't born here, though. So he's tapped out. He's only been a citizen seven years. He was born in Uganda.
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Buck Sexton
So I totally forgot about that.
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Clay Travis
But I do think. Forget your point. He may want the Senate. He may want the governor's race. He wants.
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Buck Sexton
He wants the governor's mansion then for sure. Yeah.
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Clay Travis
That's the one thing where I'm like, well, at least he can screw up New York City and he might be able to screw up New York State, but I don't think he has the ability to get any other. Any other office.
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Buck Sexton
I guess it's a good thing we didn't change that law for. Or change that in the Constitution for Schwarzenegger.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, no doubt. And now there's downsides, right, Because President Elon. I think I'd probably vote for Elon Musk, honestly. I think he's just rational. I get that there's people out there that think he's wrong on certain issues and that that's fair. But the Fetterman thing when we come back, I think is really interesting, Buck, because it's not that Fetterman is. Is great. It's just he's not totally crazy. And that's not good enough for Democrats.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show okay, I'm not going to say that John Fetterman is a good senator or that I think he should be representing the state of Pennsylvania. Dave McCormick, thankfully, is the Republican who knocked out Casey and is in office for six years and is doing a great job for Pennsylvania. We know him well and I think that Dr. Oz would have done a better job advocating for Pennsylvanians than John Fetterman has because Fetterman is wrong on most issues. But Fetterman is, in my opinion, I think yours too, Buck, been 100% right on the Israel Hamas situation in saying, hey, I'm all in on Israel's right to defend itself and there is good and evil and Israel's on the side of good and Hamas is on the side of evil. And he has been rational when it comes to not calling people who vote for Trump Nazis. My standard of expectation here for Democrats is so low that if you simply say, hey, most Trump supporters aren't actually Nazis and they're pretty good people, Then as a general rule, even though we may disagree on politics, I'm like, you know this John Fetterman guy, he's not awful. So I want to play this cut from for you and I because I do think it is emblematic of why Democrats are so angry at John Fetterman. This was last night in Washington, D.C. at a News Nation town hall cut nine and I'm going to play a couple of cuts here for you, but here's cut nine.
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John Fetterman
I'm the only Democrat in my family. I grew up in a conservative part of Pennsylvania. And I grew up and I, I knew, I know. And I love people that voted for President Trump, but they are not fascists, they're not Nazis, they're not trying to destroy the Constitution, those things. And that's part of another thing. I refuse to call people Nazis or fascists or I would never compare anybody, anybody to Hitler and those things. And that kinds of extreme rhetoric is going to continue. We're going to be more likely in resulting in extreme kind of outcomes and political violence and doing all these kinds of things. Like Charlie Kirk. For me, all I could say is, is like, let people grieve, give people the space. I'm not going to use that terrible thing in that pasic assassination to make my argument and try to put out my views. It's like, my God, you know, he's a father that had his neck blown out by a bullet and now people have forgotten President Trump was in my state, was shot in the head. And if that would have, could you imagine where our nation would be if he was hit in the same way with Kirk? We really got to turn the temperature down.
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Clay Travis
I agree with everything you just said, Buck.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, I would say he reminds me of somebody here from the Democrat side of things. He reminds me. For those who can recall back in the 2020 primary, sounds a little bit like Tulsi Gabbard to me. When Tulsi Gabbard, people forget she ran as a Democrat for president, but she would, she would always disappoint the left wing base by not being, you know, she wasn't hateful. She wasn't. I, I think Republicans are awful people or whatever and you knew that something was up. Now, I think Fetterman is not quite as impressive as Tulsi on, on a range of issues. But, but it is very hard, here's what I will say. It is very hard to be a Democrat in good standing with the Democrat machine if you do not express routinely hatred for Republicans. If you are not willing to say they're awful, they want your grandma to die. They hate, you know, black and brown people. They are, if you're not willing to, they're Nazis. Very hard for you to stay in good with the base in the Democrat Party. So there's something up here for Fetterman.
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Clay Travis
Okay, so I want to play one more cut and then we'll tell you the news that came out early this morning relating to Fetterman. Here is cut 10 Democratic extremism is why we lost. That is what fetterman is saying. Cut 10.
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John Fetterman
The extremism that people turn their back in 24. And that's how we kind of came up short. You know, I campaigned for, for thousands, thousands and thousands of miles across Pennsylvania for Vice President Harris. And it was going to be incredibly difficult. You could just feel the energy there. And people really have connected there at a very fundamental level. And that's what I tried to explain to my party and I'm trying to explain to the party right now. It's like, this is why we lost and this is where we need to be to continue to win for these things. And there are parts of extreme things emerging clearly on those things. And that's why I refuse to follow that, even if that is going to cost me support in parts of the base.
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Clay Travis
Okay, so this morning, lead story in one of the lead stories in Axios. I love their morning digest. It's one of many things that I read as I get through for to start my day. There is a story that Democrats are mobilizing to come after John Fetterman and primary him in the 2028 primary season. This is their top story in. In their Axios am. I will read it. Top Democrats in Pennsylvania are maneuvering to run against Senator John fetterman in a 2028 primary contest, threatening to tear the party apart in the biggest battleground state in the nation. Axios's Holly Otterbein writes potential Democrat challengers bashing Fetterman years ahead of schedule. Schedule. They think that it could be Representative Brendan Boyle, Chris Deluzio, Connor Lamb, and they are already running ads. They are already ripping him. And this is funny. When Axios began reporting this story, Fetterman texted back in response, enjoy your clickbait. Asked a follow up question. Fetterman responded, please do not contact. Um, and so this is where they are. They demand total agreement on all issues. How does this play out, Buck? So Federman 2028, still a ways away, but Pennsylvania is going to be a battleground if they truly primary him. It would be nasty. It would be expensive. It would be, I think, beneficial to the Republican Party in a big way because it keeps the Democrats from uniting in maybe the most important state still in 2028. There is no pathway to the presidency for Democrats if they don't win Pennsylvania. How does this play out? Where do you think we go from here? Do they end up coming together and singing Kumbaya and the challenges don't happen? Or is Fetterman on The Tulsi Gabbard path, even if he himself potentially does not recognize it.
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Buck Sexton
It's a great question. I would say, first of all, I love watching Democrats fight. You know, this is fantastic. When Democrats are going after Democrats, you just get to get to take out that popcorn. You know, you get to, if you're Clay, kick back with a Mountain Dew even and really enjoy it.
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Clay Travis
Right. So good.
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Buck Sexton
It's so good. And you can just watch and have a. Have a great time. I think that the likelihood here is that Democrats will back off of this because it would be so disruptive in a critical state. I think Pennsylvania by population is the fifth largest state in the country and obviously the biggest purple state in the country. Right. Am I missing one by population?
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Clay Travis
Yeah. I think of the toss up state, you are correct. Pennsylvania is the biggest prize.
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Buck Sexton
It's the biggest prize. So, right. Number one is California by population. Number one is California. Number two is Texas. Number three is Florida. Number four is New York. Number five is Pennsylvania, I think. So with that in mind, they don't want to blow their own hand off, so to speak. I mean, I think they want to not do something crazy here. But it does show a few things. It shows that the Democrats cannot rein in their left wing.
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Clay Travis
Really.
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Buck Sexton
The left wing is the base now.
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Clay Travis
Right.
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Buck Sexton
It's actually the moderates who the Democrats are trying to placate. The left wing of the party is the party and people who are more centrist or you know, the old union guy who's been voting Democrat for 40 or 50 years or whatever the Democrat party is now just set up to try to fool that person. That's the Joe Scarborough. I mean, sorry, Joe Biden. Well, maybe Joe Scarborough, too. Scranton Joe Biden routine. Scranton Joe, right, With the lunch pail on the choo choo train. The whole thing, that whole scam that they ran with Biden is meant to make old school Democrats think that they still have a place in this current party. And that's even. I think that goes to the shutdown. Clay, you know, there was another press conference with Speaker Johnson this morning. I'm enjoying these press conferences as I drink my crop.
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Clay Travis
I'm glad you're watching them because I'm just completely tuned out of all I.
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Buck Sexton
Know you told me you're not into it. So I'm like, well, I guess one of us has got to watch these. So I'm sitting there watching and he says, this is not your daddy's. Daddy's Democrat party to everybody. And I think that's absolutely True. And the data you could pull together for that is irrefutable in my mind. And the fact that they're trying to hold things up now to make sure that there's all these Obamacare subsidies. The Obamacare experiment is a failure. That's one part of this that I wish people would spend more time on. But beyond that, it's like Russia with the oil. If California is getting all these crazy federal dollars just shoveled to it for health care, well, of course California can cover illegals as part of its state health care program because the money is fungible.
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Clay Travis
Right.
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Buck Sexton
And so this is where Democrats are being completely disingenuous when they're holding up the government. They are holding up the government because they don't want any cuts to funding, because they know that the first thing that they would have to cut in places like California is covering health care for illegals. They're not gonna. They're not gonna cut Medicare recipients or something. I mean, that's gonna be a. You know, they. First of all, they can at the state level, so it's the illegals and those programs that would get trimmed. And I think that someone like John Fetterman is, in some ways, at least ideologically, more of a.
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Clay Travis
More.
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Buck Sexton
More of a throwback to that old Democrat Party, although I know he's voting to keep the government shut down. So that's. You know, you got to watch these guys, man. They're wily. They're. Some of these. You look at someone like. What's his name? He had the book that just came out, Joe Manchin, Dead center. Very clever title that was. I'm giving his book a plug. Look at that. He's a guy who you think is reasonable until the Democrats put enough pressure on him, and then he becomes very unreasonable.
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Clay Travis
Well, I mean, that's the problem. Is it? Fetterman is still 94%, I think, likely to have supported Democrat positions. But it doesn't take much to be the most reasonable Democrat. I can't even think of who the second most reasonable Democrat is right now. You know what?
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Buck Sexton
You know what this is, though? I think they're going to wait out all of the. The heat from the Democrat left on the Israel issue is going to die down, and they're hoping that that's what happens here, I think. And then Fetterman won't. Then Fetterman will be. He'll be voting for big spending, and, you know, he'll be. There's a whole bunch of things that he'll be right in line with. The Democrats on, so they'll go back to being okay with him in that purple state. I just think right now there's all this sensitivity from the lunatic left about Israel and the end of this war. I would also note, whatever happened to hearing all about the genocide and the starvation? There was no starvation. There was no genocide. And I think people who were saying those things should be ashamed.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
Or they should just be. They should be embarrassed for being so foolish and so easily misled. But people who are saying that, who knew it wasn't true, should be absolutely ashamed. You know, I'm seeing a lot of people say now, well, it wasn't. It wasn't starvation, Clay, in Gaza, it was food insecurity. Do you know how many people in America are considered food insecure?
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
50 million. 50 million Americans are food insecure. There's a world of difference between food insecure, whatever that means, and starving to death, which is what we were told was happening and was not happening. And Fetterman, to his credit, knew it wasn't happening and said so.
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Clay Travis
Well, look, I mean, there is no one, even who is food insecure in the United States that is starving. In fact, a lot of those people who would count as food insecure are severely over. Are very obese.
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Buck Sexton
Right? Yes.
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Clay Travis
They are very fat. And so, I mean, that's one of those things for history. People out there being fat used to be a sign that you were very wealthy because there was actual huge food insecurity and lack of food in the Middle Ages. And in times such as those now, the poorer you are, the fatter you are in general in the United States, which is a sign that you have access to plenty of food. Maybe not the healthiest food, the options that you're choosing, but you are not in any way in danger of actually starving. And there are very few people that I've seen in Gaza, I mean, you know who's actually food insecure were the hostages. I mean, they lost a lot of weight. They were skin and bones. When they were released on Monday, they were being.
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Buck Sexton
They were being starved. They were being starved.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
And they were starvation.
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Clay Travis
Christiana Monpour saying that. Oh, the average hot. She had to apologize for this on cnn, but the average hostage was treated basically as bad as the average person living in Gaza. And then she. You saw that clip, right? I mean, she had, she, she is.
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Buck Sexton
She is a vile moron, though, and a throwback to when people with fancy accents on TV could get away with anything.
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Clay Travis
Pull that clip, Greg, if you would, because we didn't play it, she had to apologize for it and say, oh well, I misspoke. I want you to hear it because I do think sometimes when you quote misspeak, what you actually do is tell people what you truly believe and then you find out what you truly believe is not acceptable in the larger community. And so you say, oh, I misspoke. But let's play that audio because I do not believe she misspoke. I believe she told you what she really thought and then was not prepared for the blowback.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck and let's get into some of this. Although you mentioned this, I'll play this quickly because, wait, we have very little time but we have some great call. Do you want to the call or do you want to Christian, it's up to you.
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Clay Travis
Let's call and then, and then we'll do a man, a Christian poor, the.
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Buck Sexton
Fanciest accent ever to be on television. Eric in Panama City Beach, Florida wants to chat with us. What's going on, my friend? Hey, good afternoon, gentlemen.
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Clay Travis
You know, it's so funny.
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Buck Sexton
I don't believe in coincidences, but I'm.
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Clay Travis
Driving on Front Beach Road in Panama.
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Buck Sexton
City beach and Clay says, oh, I'm in the Panhandle. I, oh, I'm here. I mean I had to pull over and call. I am a born and bred New Yorker, born and raised there, live there now. But I'm down here house hunting on the, on the Panhandle because I've had enough. I'm a minority member, English speaking, heterosexual male right wing conservative Jew. So yeah, I've had enough. The people down here are the nicest, sweetest, most polite, family oriented. It's amazing.
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Clay Travis
I was talking to some of the police officers here. Zero troubles, you know.
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Buck Sexton
So I just want to tell you.
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John Fetterman
A couple of things.
- [46:37]
Buck Sexton
The other day you had mentioned you.
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Clay Travis
Were talking about what's the percentage of the Jewish vote?
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Buck Sexton
That was for Kamal and all that, by the way.
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Clay Travis
Welcome to God's country, the Gulf coast of Florida. And we will break down Mamdani and more next. America is changing and so is the world. But what's happening in America isn't just the cause of global upheaval. It's also a symptom of disruption that's happening everywhere. I'm Asma Khalid in Washington D.C. i'm Tristan Redman in London and this is the global story.
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Every weekday we'll bring you a story from this intersection where the world and America meet.
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Clay Travis
Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts. Wishing the holidays could come early.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Ones and hunting for deals wherever they can find them, including right here.
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Buck Sexton
They're listening to the radio. They're listening to podcasts. They could be listening to you.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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What difference at this point does it make?
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Clay Travis
Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio Apple Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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