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Clay Travis
Welcome in Clay. Travis Bucs Sexton show, Friday edition of the program. We hope all of you are having fantastic early starts to your weekend as all of us hang out and roll into finally the month of March. I know it's been a pretty cold winter all over the place and things hopefully are going to be getting better as we go forward. A lot to dive into during the course of today's program. Zelensky is visiting the White House right now and Trump had an all timer banger of a quote. Buck, I don't know if you saw this. I was thinking about trying it in arguments with my wife Laura going forward. Did you see this quote, Buck? I love it. You can put it in the repertoire, see if it works on Kerry. Whenever you guys may get into disagreements. Trump was asked about calling Zelensky a dictator and he responded, did I say that? I can't believe I said that. Next question. Which is amazing. So I want all of the men out there this weekend. If you are having a dispute or disagreement and your tone is being questioned, I would suggest that you say, did I say that? I can't believe I said that. Next question and see if like Trump, you can immediately move on.
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Buck Sexton
I also, I saw, I guess we have the audio.
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Clay Travis
Sorry, Buck, let me play it. Cut 12. Listen to this.
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Donald Trump
Said that. I can't believe I said that. Next question.
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Buck Sexton
I love it.
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Clay Travis
Unbelievable.
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Buck Sexton
Fantastic.
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Clay Travis
That is amazing.
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Buck Sexton
It's all, it's all in the delivery too. Like it minimizes so much. Like, yeah, whatever, he moves on. I saw this guy Clay and I just thought this was really funny. You know, I've got my in laws down visiting, I've got my, my family from New York down visiting. We got a baby shower this weekend.
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Clay Travis
A little bit of things going on.
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Buck Sexton
So, yeah, so Clay is going to be taking the helm solo about halfway through because I got a, a million things to do. I mean, I'm, I'm a chauffeur, I'm arranging flowers, I'm taking people on tours of the beach. I got a million things I got to do here. But I did see on Instagram and I just thought this was really funny as a relatively newly married guy, this guy whose advice is don't ever, when you're in an argument with your wife, don't ever tell her to calm down. Tell her that if her tone doesn't change, you're going to wonder how it is that you married her mom. But then again, her mom actually would clean the house and cook.
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Clay Travis
Oh my goodness.
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Buck Sexton
This guy is trying to Nuke every married man. You know, I don't understand how this is even on the Internet. This should come with a warning.
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Clay Travis
This guy, your act is amazing. You're acting like your mom, except your mom would be way nicer to me is maybe the worst advice that I've ever heard in the history of mankind.
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Buck Sexton
That was the, the fastest way to, to absolutely nuke things between spouses is pretty funny anyway.
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Clay Travis
That is really, really funny.
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Buck Sexton
I don't know if, if Zelensky is going to go quite so hardcore when he sits down with Trump. I have a. I have a sense now he's going to have to play his cards right.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, we'll talk about that. Maybe there will be some public availability with Zelensky and Trump. But, Buck, I saw this and I wanted to hit you with it. This is went up this morning. This is from the New York Post. Former president. This is the Spectator World. I believe this has been Dominic doing an interview that is out now. The transcript of his interview with President Trump. Trump said when he visited Biden right after he won the election. Everybody out there, I think a lot of you will remember the pictures of Trump and Biden sitting beside the fireplace, smiling. Jill Biden seeming very happy because we talked about it on this program. Biden didn't seem very angry about the fact that Trump had won. And, and Trump said that. And these are direct quotes, so I want to make sure I get them right. I asked him, this is Trump. So who do you blame? Because he was very angry. You know, he was a very angry guy, actually. And he said, I blame Barack. This gets interesting, Buck. He said, I also blame Nancy Pelosi. This is Trump talking about his conversation with Biden. I said, what about the vice president? He said, no, I don't blame her. Which was interesting. He didn't blame Kamala. He blamed. He told me he blamed those two people. So I think this is kind of what we would have anticipated if we were analyzing it without having heard it from Biden himself. But Biden feels like Obama and Pelosi were the leaders of the cabal that knocked him out of the race in 2024. And he doesn't blame Kamala for the way it went down. Now, maybe she was just skilled at moving behind closed doors and, and not being noticed as being involved. But it is interesting the way that that shakes out.
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Buck Sexton
I think this completely lines up. I buy this. Absolutely makes perfect sense to me, aligns with what we saw happening in real time. I don't want to relitigate this but all it took was Barack and Pelosi to just have a little, little bit of a stiffened spine and Biden actually would have still been the nominee. I know people think I'm crazy, but there, there were plenty of ways that they could have tried to resurrect the campaign from the numbers that they had. I, so, so I believe this, and I think Biden truly believed that he was going to be the guy until he wasn't. I don't think that he thought even after that debate he was going to be able to be pushed out. There was no mechanism to push him out. The mechanism, as we see now, so to speak, was Barack and Pelosi knifing him in the back, so to speak. And that, I think, was the final push. I didn't think they would do it, and here's why. And I think it also ties into why he doesn't blame Kamala. Kamala couldn't win. Kamala knew she couldn't win. She wasn't ready for it. She didn't have the skill set for it. She didn't have the profile for it. But the Democrats, just like they, made an enormous strategic blunder by raiding Mar a Lago and bringing four different criminal trials against Trump and the civil trial nonsense. And all of this clay, just like they made all these horrible decisions in this process, this was another horrible decision by the Democrat apparatus, in this case led by Pelosi and Biden, which makes perfect sense. Those would be the two most prominent Democrats, by the way, more so than even Biden when he was president. Of course, they had more power than he did. No one really thought that, you know, Mr. Mr. Vegetable was actually calling the shots. So I think this is totally true. I think that this goes to the lack of political judgment. Remember, Barack Obama was disastrous. People always forget this. Disastrous for all Democrats in elections. Not named Obama. He didn't. He did well for himself. Two terms, fine. But the. The Obama movement did not ever stretch to other people, to big wins in the House. It obviously led to Donald Trump in 2016.
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Clay Travis
Not only that, but Obama tried to come out and campaign with Kamala and it fell flat. And, and I do think this also, if we got the full story, would be Obama was basically pulling the strings to get George Clooney to write that New York Times editorial. I think that's what the Biden people definitely think as well, is that Obama was moving behind the scenes, pulling strings, machinations. Remember, Buck, we have talked about it. It's still so strange that he's never left D.C. i get it early on. If you have kids and you want em to finish school, I'll be honest with you, there's nowhere in America I would move right now. Cause my kids are in good schools, they're not off to college yet. I understand. And a lot of you out there who are parents probably have made decisions, hey, I'm staying in this job. I'm not moving because it's best for my kids to be able to finish high school. I want them to be able to finish the school they're in right now. So I will give him a pass for a few years until Sasha and Malia officially left the home and went off to college. But once that happens, once that happens, there's no reason for him to stay in Washington D.C. and remember we had.
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Buck Sexton
That big discussion except to meddle and there was that big article, I know you're going to reference this, the big article about the Obama presidency. Effectively a shadow presidency.
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Clay Travis
That's right.
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Buck Sexton
He's got a mansion, a 10 minute, 10 minute cab ride from the White House.
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Clay Travis
And he said publicly he would love to run the country just without the responsibilities of having to do all the handshaking and all of the movement around behind scenes. And, and basically I think this is what that's telling you, that, that Biden saw this. Now I do wonder, remember this is a conversation Trump had right after the election. I do wonder if the Kamala positivity still exists because some of the interaction between Kamala and Jill Biden for sure has been frosty on a level where even I notice it. Like the shoulder is so cold that I can't even look away.
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Buck Sexton
I, I, I like this because we get to read the tea leaves and get into, we get to play shrink on the couch here. Clay, I think, I think that Jill Biden never liked, never liked Kamala. And I think it really goes to when Kamala called her husband a racist on the stage. I know that the Democrats forgot, you know, that whole thing, but she really went after Biden in a way that tarnished his legacy. And if you're Jill Biden, that's what matters to you, secondary only to him being president. Right. The Biden legacy is a critical aspect of what Jill Biden thinks she's preserving. So Kamala went after Biden, calls him a racist on that stage. That results in, I think Jill Biden never forgiving or forgetting. Joe can, you know, Joe is, he's got, he's a scummy guy. He's been in politics forever. You know, it's different. Right. He doesn't view but I think he gives Kamala a pass because he knows she wasn't the one maneuvering to push him aside. And he knows that it was Pelosi and Obama and then Kamala had no choice. But I think Jill still views it as you went after my husband publicly and you betrayed him. I don't care that it wasn't your idea. That's how I would break it down.
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Clay Travis
I think that's, I think that's very right and there is a lot here. I think. Remember Biden has been very quiet in the month since he left. He basically, I know he doesn't have a lot of, a lot of energy to do anything. But even for Biden in the month since he's left, he's been very quiet. At some point, I don't know who the person's going to be. There is, we know the book is coming out from Jake Tapper who's lied about all of the, all the Biden related health concerns and claim that he talked about. You know, we know those are all lies. Okay. But at some point somebody is going to write the Biden score settling book. I don't know who it's going to be. Maybe a campaign manager. It may be a trusted from their perspective media source. And I think you're going to hear a lot of these accusations because what they're going to be fighting over in the future, Buck is who actually is responsible for Trump coming back because Biden looks like an accidental president right now who never should have been in office. Remember, even people who are not crazy right wing conspiracists are saying did he really get 81 million votes? Like, I mean there's a lot of people starting to ask those questions now.
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Buck Sexton
But you hit on something critical as well. This isn't just about the exercise of the blame game as it pertains to the different egos involved here and the legacies. There is no leadership of the Democrat Party right now. So who and there's no agenda for the Democrat Party other than crying and hoping that Trump stops doing what he's doing. So what you have and this makes sense given the power dynamics of the Democrat Party is a fight that is going to be brewing right now and a lot of it in front of us. I think over exactly what you said, who is responsible for this message the Democrats are in because that group or those individuals can get sidelined and there can be somebody else that leads the Democrat Party against Trump going forward. But that's why they have to figure this out now because some, you know, somebody's heads have to roll. Somebody has to be held accountable for this disaster. They find themselves in a Democrat party that is the weakest I've ever seen it in my life. I've never seen the Democrat party as weak as it is right now. So they have. And everyone knows this, right? This. It's not like anyone's claiming the Democrats are in a good position. So is it the, you know, Pelosi Obama faction that gets the blame? Is it changing therefore the leadership toward a more at least ostensibly moderate purple state Democrats? Somebody like a Gretchen Whitmer or Wes Moore? We've talked about some of these names. That's all happening right now. Uh, we'll take calls on this as well. 800-282-2882. You know, Clay tells me one of the fun things about having kids is getting to relive all those things from your childhood, but through their eyes. Remember walkie talkies when you were a kid, those were a lot of fun. Now imagine walkie talkies, but with a whole new array of technology and a whole bunch of new uses for adults. Our sponsor, Rapid Radios has the modern version of the walkie talkies you grew up with as kids. With a single button, you can talk to anyone nationwide, but not just in the neighborhood. That's because Rapid Radio's walkie talkies are accessing a nationwide LTE network by grabbing a hold of any cell tower network close by. That's just one of the reasons why these are selling so quickly. Families, friends, coworkers can all stay in touch, particularly when there's a disruption like a natural disaster. Remember, my in laws were actually staying with me in South Florida this weekend when they got hit hard by that hurricane in Asheville, North Carolina I was talking to the next day. Despite all the communications disruptions on Rapid Radios from my living room, clear as day. It's great technology. Rapid Radios are easy to use. Something you want to have for day to day use. But also in case of go online to rapidradios.com you'll get up to 60% off free UPS shipping from Michigan plus a free protection bag. Add Code Radio and get an extra 5% off. These rapid Radio walkie talkies have batteries with a five day charge ready to go out of the box. Rapidradios.com use code radio saving America one.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck, I don't know if I had mentioned this on air, but it's something that I have been saying to Clay and the team here ever since Trump took office. And it's the one thing that I just thought was a must do that had not yet been done by Trump. And it is the executive order. Well, here, this is the breaking news from this morning. You can listen to Bill Hammer of Fox News tell you about it. Play one.
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Bill Hemmer
It's early and it's happening right now at the White House. This is breaking news here on the Fox News Channel. We have just confirmed firm that President Donald Trump will sign an executive order that will make English the official language of the United States. In our nearly 250 year history, we've never had an official language ever. The executive order expected to be assigned sometime today.
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Buck Sexton
Clay, I've been saying it. You know, I've been hammering this for a while. To me, it's a must do. There's no good faith reason to not do this. I think it is absurd that there are ballots printed in 20 different languages in places like New York City. I think it's annoying that there are multiple languages being written for different, you know, government papers and things that are, that are out there for the bureaucracy. Of course, English should be our language.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. There's no doubt. And I think one of the primary signs that you are interested in making a new country your home would be to have the respect to learn how to communicate with everybody in the language that most of the people there speak. And English certainly is a strong sign of assimilation having occurred. And if you don't want to assimilate and come to this country and make it your home and make many of the cultural aspects of America your foundation as a, as a family, then you shouldn't come here. Right. And this comes back, I was got in this conversation with my wife this morning. We've got to start fighting a reality that all cultures are not equal. And one of the big takeaways from this whole D I business is, oh, we're going to celebrate diversity. Okay. But some things are worse than others, right? Like Afghanistan is not a culture, by and large that Americans should celebrate. In fact, as ruled by the Taliban, it's actually awful, repressive to basic human rights and it should be repudiated. We shouldn't be like, oh, look at this nice person from Afghanistan. Let's honor their culture. No, their culture, by and large, as perpetrated by the Taliban is actually awful and we shouldn't celebrate it. And ours is much better. And it's not somehow colonialism to point that out.
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Buck Sexton
Yes. And there's a, there's a lot of countries, over 200 of them that you could point to and I think very rightly make the case. Yeah, we have a better setup here than they do as well.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
It's just a question of degree. We're definitely better than North Korea. But you know what? We're also better than France. We're also better than, you know, you go down the list now. Now, France has some very nice things about it, unlike the culture in Afghanistan these days. But we're number one. And everyone needs to be willing to say this out loud because we do not have a lot to learn from the rest of the world. They have a lot to learn from us. And this. And English, by the way, of course, should be our national language. Look, there's some talk about President Trump visiting Fort Knox soon. For those of you that don't know, Fort Knox is known as being our nation's protected depository of gold. If and when President Trump visits, this highly protected military base will likely learn a whole lot more about our nation's gold reserves. But where will you put your own gold reserves? The good news is you can own gold and have it safely stored in your savings account or your 401k or both, for that matter. You can store your physical gold at your home just as easily. Gold is one sure way to protect the value of your savings over time. The value of gold has only gone up, particularly in the last year. Birch Gold Group can help you with this like they have me. I've been an investor in Gold Gold for some years and just recently purchased more from Birch Gold Group myself. When you talk with the people at Birch Gold, they'll offer you a copy of a new study on how gold will fare in the Trump era with a forward by Donald Trump Jr. Text my name Buck to 989898 or go to birchgold.com Buck that's birchgold.com Buck.
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Clay Travis
Okay, we are waiting for the audio of this. I am told that I now have the transcript. Buck, I'm going to do a bit of a dramatic reading here of just what happened in the Oval Office. J.D. vance, who is also at the meeting, Vice President J.D. vance said it was, quote, disrespectful for Zelensky to come in the Oval Office and litigate in front of the American media and said he does this all the time on publicity tours. Trump raised his voice and said to Zelensky, you're not in a very. You're not really in a good position right now. You're gambling with World War Three. J.D. vance then said, have you said thank you once you went to Pennsylvania to campaign for the opposition? Trump followed. You're running low on soldiers, then you're telling us you don't want a ceasefire. Zelensky is trying to respond. This is according to the LA Times. This is spicy Buck, relatively speaking to what usually happens when the media is invited in to see a foreign dignitary visiting. Usually everybody plays nice. It does not appear that everybody is playing nice here.
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Buck Sexton
What is Zelensky's plan other than to just keep on hanging out with celebrities and assuming that the American taxpayer is going to send him hundreds of billions of dollars for this war, which I think we honestly don't get anything from. We are helping people because America has decided that Russia is the bad guy and Ukraine is the good guy. And yeah, is it Russia's fault that this war happened? Yes, they started the war. Were there things that were done by NATO before? A rather encroachments by NATO beforehand and provocations by Biden specifically that did not help the situation in advance? Yeah, that's also true. But we just want this thing to stop. We want to stop sending money. We want. We want people to stop getting blown up and killed and shot and all these horrible things that are happening on a massive scale on this battlefront. What is Zelensky's plan if he doesn't want to go into a negotiation? Putin already knows. People are saying, oh, Trump is undermining Putin's hands, his hand. Putin knows the battlefield reality better than we do. He knows he's got more men, he knows he's got more material and he knows that Russia is actually slowly advancing in this situation. And so what's Zelensky's plan to bluff? He's going to these the only options are status quo clay, which is meat grinder for Ukrainians, Americans funding this whole operation or Zelensky thinks that some way he'll be able to get us to just step in and now it's America squaring off against Russia on the battlefield directly. I don't see what the because. Because negotiation and ceasefire and ending this thing sets him off apparently he doesn't want to do that.
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Clay Travis
I do think that it's under discussed and I give credit to JD Vance for pointing this out. The guy went to the battleground state of Pennsylvania to campaign for Kamala Harris. We talk a lot about foreign interference in elections. Can you recall that having happened, Buck, where a foreign leader comes to the United States in the middle of an election, goes to a battleground state and campaigns for one side against the other, and then shows up in the White House after the side he campaigned against lost or, sorry, won. The side he campaigned for lost and tries to argue that they owe him something. I mean, again, strip aside, I like to do this, and I know some of you don't necessarily love it, but strip aside, whatever political affiliations you have right now, for a moment, just consider this blindly. If we're going to hear that Russia completely elected Donald Trump based on a few hundred thousand dollars in Facebook ads. That is the entire argument of Russia collusion. When it boils down, Russia was playing around on Facebook. They bought, I don't know, $150,000, I think, of Facebook ads, which, let me tell you, is virtually nothing, especially in an election where billions of dollars are being spent. I went and looked at those elections. We have bought Facebook ads. I can tell you that $150,000 in Facebook ads does not get you in front of very many people. Okay. But if we are being told that Russia buying those ads swung the 2016 election, Zelensky actually traveled to America and campaigned against Trump and Vance in Pennsylvania, what most people would have acknowledged to be the biggest battleground state in the entire United States. So this idea that somehow this is not direct election interference from a foreign official is kind of wild to me. I even. I remember we talked about it when it happened on this program, and I said at the time, like, this is direct attempt to influence election by Zelensky.
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Buck Sexton
I also, I always thought this formulation was just. Was so dishonest. This thing about Democrats. Oh, people are trying to influence our elections. This has been going on forever. We try to influence elections.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, I was gonna say, how many elections do you think we try to influence that are going on?
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Buck Sexton
I was in the CIA and I'm familiar with the history of that organization. Let me tell you, there's been a lot of influencing of elections in our past and maybe more. Who knows? That has gone on all over the world. I mean, the whole Cold War was basically us picking proxies and the Soviets picking proxies to try to influence powered elections in foreign countries. This was. This was like top of our foreign policy priority for decades. So this notion. Oh, we're trying. Yes. Is it a problem if Russia tries to break into our voting machines and change them? Yeah, that didn't happen, although a lot of Democrats think it did. That's that's, you know, breaking laws and things that we have to take seriously. I mean, you could even argue that's an act of war. But Facebook ads, world leaders saying, I think you should vote for this person, not that person. Americans or Russians or whoever we're talking about, we're in a global information ecosystem. The idea that there isn't, there aren't efforts to influence elections, at least by people sharing their opinions, whether it's a world leader or foreign media entity or whatever. This is farcical. This is absurd. But this is where you get to Democrats saying they bought Facebook ads saying mean things about Hillary. There were billions of dollars spent on ads in that election. 100 grand. If you're going to lose an election because of 100 grand on Facebook, you didn't deserve to win in the first place. The whole thing is absurd.
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Clay Travis
Also. That's the greatest ad spend in the history of mankind. I'm just telling you. $100,000 in Facebook ads. During the gambling era, with outkick, we would buy Facebook ads to try to get people to sign up for gambling through outkick codes. I mean, that's one of the parts of our business that we were running as a media business. $100,000 is a blip in the radar of Facebook's overall advertising. So what happens here with Zelensky traveling and campaigning? I think J.D. vance is actually very right to call him out. We are in the process, by the way of putting the audio of the transcript that I read to you in and I would imagine we will have this soon. Again, Zelensky in the White House being confronted in real time about. About exactly what is going on.
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Buck Sexton
Also, he does not come across as grateful at all. I will correct that out. It's always, give us everything that we want. Give us all of this money, American taxpayer, or else the fact that we're going to get our asses kicked by the Russians even more is your fault. It's. The whole thing is effectively built on a kind of moral blackmail. It's. You have to keep funding this. The American taxpayer has to keep funding the Ukraine war or else if Russia runs over them, it is our fault. So, yeah, that's, that's, I think, something that people have grown clay, very tired of in this country and a lot of Democrats for whom the virtue signaling of a Ukraine flag on their Facebook page or on their X profile, that's their involvement in this war. And just like everything else, spending money that they don't think of as theirs because it's the taxpayers and giving it to Ukraine makes them feel good about themselves. But the real nuts and bolts of what is happening in this conflict shows us that Zelensky has. There's no plan here. And as we saw, whether it was the US And NATO in Afghanistan, a whole bunch of other wars we could point to. When you have no plan other than I'm going to send people who are just serving their country to go out there and get shot at and possibly killed. This is, this is a deeply immoral thing to perpetuate. If it's just I want the status quo because I don't want to accept that we can't get everything that we want. As you know, the Ukrainians. What?
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Clay Travis
I. Sorry, I'm just looking at some of the pictures. The Ukrainian ambassador has her head in her hands over the audio that we're about to play for you in front of all the media. This is going to be a big deal. We probably. We'll go to break and we should.
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Buck Sexton
Let's go to break.
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Clay Travis
Come back and play when we come back.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Making America great again isn't just one man, it's many. The Team 47 podcast, Sundays at noon Eastern in the Clay and Buck podcast feed. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you. We do have the audio. We're gonna play it for you and I bet we're gonna be reacting to it in a Big way at the start of the next hour. Buck. But for everybody out there, Zelinsky, in the Oval Office, in front of the, in front of the American media and the Ukrainian media, we're going to play multiple parts here so you can get a sense for what happened. Let's start with cut 26.
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J.D. Vance
I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to end the destruction of your country.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Volodymyr Zelensky
But if you.
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J.D. Vance
Mr. President, with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office, try to litigate this in front of the American media. Right now, you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems.
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Donald Trump
Problems.
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J.D. Vance
You should be thanking the president for trying to bring it into this.
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Volodymyr Zelensky
Have you ever been to Ukraine that you say what problems we have?
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J.D. Vance
I have been to come once. I have actually, I've actually watched and seen the stories. And I know what happens is you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour. Mr. President, are. Do you disagree that you've had problems bringing people into your military? And do you think that it's respectful?
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Volodymyr Zelensky
I will answer.
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J.D. Vance
To come to the Oval Office of the United States, States of America and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country.
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Volodymyr Zelensky
A lot of. A lot of questions. Let's start from the beginning.
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Clay Travis
Sure.
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Volodymyr Zelensky
First of all, during the war, everybody has problems, even you. But you have nice ocean and don't feel now, but you will feel it in the future.
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Buck Sexton
God bless.
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Donald Trump
You don't know that.
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Volodymyr Zelensky
God bless. God bless. You.
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Donald Trump
Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
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Clay Travis
All right, that is Trump and J.D. vance. We got more buck because I was just listening to this during the, during the break. Let's play cut 27 here. Part two of this exchange.
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Donald Trump
We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
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Volodymyr Zelensky
I'm not telling you because you're in.
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Donald Trump
No position to dictate that.
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Volodymyr Zelensky
Remember this.
- [33:00]
Donald Trump
You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel. We're going to feel very good. We're going to feel very good and very strong.
- [33:09]
Volodymyr Zelensky
You will feel influenced.
- [33:10]
Donald Trump
You're right now not in a very good position. You've allowed to be in a very bad beginning. And he happens to be right about.
- [33:17]
Volodymyr Zelensky
From the very beginning of this war.
- [33:18]
Donald Trump
You're not in a good position. You don't have the cards right now with us. You start having cards right now. You don't you're playing cards. You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. You're gambling with World War iii. You're gambling with World War iii. And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country. This country. I'm respect far more than a lot of people said they should have.
- [33:46]
J.D. Vance
Have you said thank you once a lot of times? No.
- [33:49]
Buck Sexton
Even today?
- [33:50]
J.D. Vance
You said. Even today you went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October. Offer some words of appreciation for the United States of America and the president who's trying to save your country.
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Clay Travis
All right, we got more. Wow.
- [34:05]
Buck Sexton
I've never. There's more. I never. I've never heard, seen anything like this before at this level of diplomats in the Oval Office. Let's keep going. I mean, this is Incredible.
- [34:15]
Clay Travis
Here's cut 28. Trump talking about Putin and Ukraine. Listen.
- [34:24]
Donald Trump
You'D never have a deal. You want me to say really terrible things about Putin and then say, hi, Vladimir, how are we doing on the deal? That doesn't work that way. I'm not aligned with Putin. I'm not aligned with anybody. I'm aligned with the United States of America and for the good of the world, I'm aligned with the world, and I want to get this thing over with. You see the hatred he's got for Putin? It's very tough for me to make a deal with that kind of hate. He's got tremendous hatred, and I understand that. But I can tell you the other side isn't exactly in love with, you know, him either. So it's not a question of alignment. I have to. I'm aligned with the world. I want to get the thing set. I'm aligned with Europe. I want to see if we can get this thing done. You want me to be tough. I could be tougher than any human being you've ever seen. I'd be so touched. Tough, but you're never going to get a deal that way, so.
- [35:11]
Buck Sexton
Fuck.
- [35:12]
Clay Travis
I mean, we've.
- [35:13]
Buck Sexton
I.
- [35:13]
Clay Travis
Is it fair to say that we have never seen or heard anything like this in public? Now, I know there's oftentimes fireworks behind closed doors, but in front of the media, anything like this?
- [35:24]
Buck Sexton
Nothing. Nothing like this between, honestly, any heads of state in the Oval Office and on an issue as serious as this, and they're talking about war and peace? No, less than that. And for Trump and Vance to both really. Look, I think that they make a good part of their case, even in those exchanges that we just heard. What the heck was Zelensky doing coming over here campaigning during our election cycle? Why would he think that that would not be remembered? And also, what does Zelensky want? Why can't he tell us? He wants to resist Russian aggression, ok? They've been doing that for three years. He's never going to be able to defeat Russia. It's not going to happen. So what is the point here? What is the game plan? If the game plan is I don't want to give up any piece, any more pieces of Ukraine than I already have with Crimea, etc. We're not on board for that. Sorry. You know, we don't have to spend hundreds of billions of dollars to make sure that Zelensky is in charge of the Donbas region. It's just not, not fair to the American people to even begin to think that that's our responsibility. And this is, this is finally, I think, some honesty in what's going on here and forcing him to finally come forward.
- [36:50]
Clay Travis
I look, the idea today was there was going to be a mineral rights agreement. We'll give you the update on whether that's likely to happen or not. Again, I wanted to play all of that, mostly for you. It was about a five minute exchange total. We played just now about three minutes. So all of you would be able to have a sense for what just happened. We'll take some of your calls. We will react to what happened there, what happens next. And, and frankly, how does the rest of the visit pan out for Zelensky and, and Trump and obviously J.D. vance here. But again, as we pointed out, when you campaign for the opposition in Pennsylvania in October, as JD Vance just pointed out, that's kind of significant.
- [37:36]
Buck Sexton
Clay is going to take you guys through the rest of the show because I got to run and tend to family chores, get ready for the baby shower, make sure the in laws are happy, all that good stuff. See you guys on Monday for me. But Clay's back in a minute.