The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Episode: Hour 1 - Trump's Economy
Date: September 5, 2025
Hosts: Clay Travis, Buck Sexton
Podcast by: iHeartPodcasts
Episode Overview
This episode dives into the state of the U.S. economy under the Trump administration, the lingering effects of Biden-era inflation, the dynamics and politics of tariffs, and a range of hot-button cultural and political topics. Clay and Buck combine economic analysis, reflections on political leadership, listener interaction, and commentary on current cultural debates—including J.K. Rowling vs. Malcolm Gladwell and the shifting landscape of sports, streaming, and American cities. The duo's conversational, humorous tone runs throughout, offering both hard-hitting opinions and lighter moments.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Economy: Recovery, Inflation, and Politics
Timestamps: 01:18–05:35
- Job Report & Outlook:
- Hiring in August stalled with about 22,000 new jobs; mild summer slowdown but Buck advises against panicking.
- Buck: "No panickings, Clay allowed. We have a no panickings policy." [02:30]
- Hiring in August stalled with about 22,000 new jobs; mild summer slowdown but Buck advises against panicking.
- Inflation’s Lingering Effects:
- Clay criticizes Fed Chair Jerome Powell’s late action, emphasizing that inflation increases create a “new normal” for prices that don't revert:
- “Once prices go up, they are inflated and the new normal becomes whatever those prices are. The best you can do is try to get back to normalcy.” [03:44]
- Everyday examples: Meals at fast food with his kids cost far more than before; people’s mental price calculators are askew.
- Clay criticizes Fed Chair Jerome Powell’s late action, emphasizing that inflation increases create a “new normal” for prices that don't revert:
- Political Ramifications:
- Buck: While the economy is strong, Democrats will attempt to pin any negative perceptions on Trump. Tariff issues are looming at the Supreme Court, with potential for policy upheaval:
- "Are we really... going to give it back to these countries? It's crazy." [05:23]
- Clay: Voters have a "lingering hangover" from the sharp inflation under Biden, causing a persistent sense of unease and potential political fallout.
- Buck: While the economy is strong, Democrats will attempt to pin any negative perceptions on Trump. Tariff issues are looming at the Supreme Court, with potential for policy upheaval:
2. Tariffs & Legal Uncertainty
Timestamps: 05:35–05:57, 40:00–41:43
- Tariffs in Court:
- Buck updates listeners about a court challenge to Trump-era tariffs, mentioning the unprecedented scale ($1 trillion+) and the logistical/policy mess if tariffs are ruled unconstitutional.
- Listener Reaction (Flea Treatment Prices):
- A caller complains about rising prices linked to tariffs. Clay responds with data suggesting overall inflation is down to 2.5% from the Biden-era peak, but acknowledges that embedded costs from the prior inflation are permanent:
- “What Biden did never gets erased. It is a cost that is now embedded for all time.” [41:35]
- A caller complains about rising prices linked to tariffs. Clay responds with data suggesting overall inflation is down to 2.5% from the Biden-era peak, but acknowledges that embedded costs from the prior inflation are permanent:
3. Cultural Battles: J.K. Rowling, Malcolm Gladwell, and Cancel Culture
Timestamps: 05:57–16:28
- Gladwell’s Stance and Rowling’s Retort:
- Discussed Gladwell’s admission of cowardice in the trans-sports debate and J.K. Rowling’s blunt criticism that he’s a “weather vane” rather than a genuine ally.
- Rowling’s quote cited by Clay:
"He hasn’t changed. He merely sensed a shift in what is acceptable to say ... He isn’t an ally, he’s a weather vane." [07:16]
- Rowling’s quote cited by Clay:
- Discussed Gladwell’s admission of cowardice in the trans-sports debate and J.K. Rowling’s blunt criticism that he’s a “weather vane” rather than a genuine ally.
- Cultural Courage:
- Clay: Rowling had “no reason” to stick her neck out but did because of her principles; he encourages parents to get kids reading, especially in an “AI era”:
- “If I can give any advice on education at all, it’s get your kids to read ... having the ability to distinguish truth from fiction ... may become the most important skill set.” [08:48]
- Clay: Rowling had “no reason” to stick her neck out but did because of her principles; he encourages parents to get kids reading, especially in an “AI era”:
- Advertising/Media as Choke Points:
- Acknowledge how left-wing dominance in advertising and marketing allows suppression of dissenting (especially conservative) voices.
- Gladwell vs. Rowling Personal Dynamic:
- Both are iconic in their genres; possible that Rowling’s criticism is based on personal knowledge of Gladwell’s true character:
- “This feels to me like she knows or has felt for some time that he’s a fraud.” [11:19]
- Buck: Confirms this dynamic and recalls similar observations from journalists like Matt Taibbi and Glenn Greenwald.
- Both are iconic in their genres; possible that Rowling’s criticism is based on personal knowledge of Gladwell’s true character:
4. Building Parallel Conservative Institutions
Timestamps: 16:28–21:04
- Economic Countermeasures:
- Clay emphasizes the need for conservatives to create businesses immune to leftist de-platforming, citing his own project, Crockett Coffee, as an example.
- “We have to construct businesses that are going to stand the test of time and stand for what you believe in.” [16:41]
- Clay emphasizes the need for conservatives to create businesses immune to leftist de-platforming, citing his own project, Crockett Coffee, as an example.
5. Listener Interaction: Sports Streaming Woes & Urban Flight
Timestamps: 22:33–29:27
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NFL on Streaming:
- A caller expresses frustration with NFL games being scattered across multiple streaming services.
- Clay: Finds the streaming landscape overly complicated—not saving money or improving service compared to cable; parents now need their kids to operate the controls.
- “They sold us on this idea that when cable vanished, it would save you money, right? ... They’re charging us more and giving us less.” [24:32]
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Blue States and Cities Debate:
- Callers and hosts debate abandoning left-run states/cities versus staying to fight.
- Buck: Warns that total abandonment cedes power and allows Democrats to lock up electoral advantages.
- "It’s like ceding your fortresses ... and then wondering why you can’t win the war." [26:27]
- Clay: Agrees but sympathizes with those exhausted by blue-state policies.
6. Politics Meets Pop Culture: White House UFC and Generational Shifts
Timestamps: 27:44–32:57
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UFC on the White House Lawn:
- Hosts are amused (and divided) over news that Trump plans to host a UFC fight on White House grounds, seeing it as a play for young, male voters.
- Buck: Cautions that this blurs the entertainment/politics line and could set a precedent for future presidents.
- “The line between entertainment and politics... is essentially obliterated already.” [29:33]
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Powdered Wigs & Baldness Tangent:
- Buck and Clay riff on historical trends (including powdered wigs due to syphilis) and Michael Jordan’s fashion influence, weaving in playful banter about male pattern baldness and cultural icons.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On Inflation:
- Clay Travis: “The challenge is prices never come back down, ever. This is the pernicious nature of inflation.” [03:44]
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On Cultural Courage:
- Clay Travis: “J.K. Rowling, I never would have expected that a British lady who wrote books about sorcerers and wizards ... would ever be the savage that she is in the world of consumer culture and political opinion.” [14:28]
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On Parallel Conservative Businesses:
- Clay Travis: “We have to construct businesses that are going to stand the test of time and actually stand for what you believe in. This is why we created Crockett Coffee...” [16:41]
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On Streaming Frustration:
- Clay Travis: “I want to have one remote control that is automatically allowing me to watch whatever I want to watch under the sun. And when I have to go log in to multiple different devices... I don’t feel like we’re saving money. I don’t feel like we’re benefiting.” [24:32]
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On Abandoning Blue Cities:
- Buck Sexton: “It’s like ceding your fortresses ... and then wondering why you can’t win the war.” [26:27]
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On Pop Culture & Politics Colliding:
- Buck Sexton: “The line between entertainment and politics... is essentially obliterated already. Maybe, but it’s going to get even more linked together.” [29:33]
Important Timestamps for Key Segments
- Main Economic Analysis: 01:18–05:35
- Tariffs & Legal Worry: 05:35–05:57; revisit at 40:00–41:43
- Rowling vs. Gladwell & Culture Wars: 05:57–16:28
- Parallel Conservative Economy: 16:28–21:04
- Listener Calls (Streaming, Cities, NFL): 22:33–29:27
- UFC at the White House, Pop Culture: 27:44–32:57
Tone & Style
The episode is energetic, humorous, and at times irreverent, with seamless movement between deeply serious economic/political topics and lighter, culture-oriented riffing. Clay and Buck’s banter and relatable anecdotes (from Chick-fil-A runs to Michael Jordan trivia) make for accessible, engaging listening.
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