The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 1 – Wait Until April
Date: December 30, 2025
Guest Host: Tudor Dixon
Featuring: Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick, Mahak (attorney and GOP strategist), Kyle Olson (Midwesterner News)

Episode Overview

This episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, guest-hosted by Tudor Dixon, dives deep into three central themes:

• The state of the U.S. economy under the Trump administration, with a focus on energy, manufacturing, and consumer confidence (featuring Howard Lutnick, Secretary of Commerce)
• Growing concerns about surveillance and policing technologies, like police drones and AI-driven facial recognition, and the rise of the "police state" (with co-host Kyle Olson)
• Allegations of widespread welfare fraud, particularly in Ohio and Minnesota, with discussions on assimilation, political corruption, and the role of citizen journalists (featuring attorney Mahak)

The episode maintains an urgent and critical tone while delivering conservative commentary and encouraging audience participation.

Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Economic Optimism and Policy Shifts

Guest: Howard Lutnick, Secretary of Commerce
[03:19 – 15:50]

Lower Energy Prices and Data Center Policy

• Tudor Dixon opens by celebrating lower gas and energy prices but questions ongoing low consumer confidence.
• Howard Lutnick:
  • Announces a new policy where data centers must “GIVE 10% of their power to the local grid to drive down the price of electricity” ([04:07]).
  • Frames data centers as potential assets for communities, not liabilities.

“Every one of these data centers, instead of becoming a bad thing for the community, becomes a party for the community. And that's the way we're gonna turn this hard...”
— Howard Lutnick [04:41]

Rebuking Legacy Democratic Energy Policy

• Lutnick asserts the U.S. must fully exploit its energy resources (gas, oil, and coal) and discredits the shift toward electric vehicles as a Chinese ploy.
• Criticizes Europe’s reliance on electric vehicles/batteries made elsewhere, calling it “so dumb” and credits “President Trump in the White House who understands it” ([06:13]).

Manufacturing, Competition, and Economic Growth

• Argument that bringing manufacturing home is “the beauty of capitalism,” ensuring competition and lower prices ([08:07]).
• President Trump’s “$18 trillion committed to build in America” to spur manufacturing and job growth.
• Projects extraordinary GDP growth: “Next year we cross five and we’ve got a good shot… to cross 6% GDP growth…” ([08:54])

Impact on Average Americans

• Higher growth means “more jobs, higher wages,” and enables major tax breaks: “no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, and no tax on Social Security” — but reiterates, “people don’t feel that yet… it won’t hit their pocket until April.” ([09:19])
• Lutnick predicts that by April, listeners will see tangible checks from tax relief.

“You know when it hits your pocket? April.”
— Howard Lutnick [09:40]

Critiques of Federal Reserve & Education/Workforce Training

• Calls for replacing Fed Chair Jay Powell by May “to get interest rates where they should be,” blaming high rates for older first-time homebuyers (“the dream has been stolen from them”).
• Promotes skilled workforce training: “We’re going to do the greatest training program in the history of America… Jobs start at 75 grand, go up to 150 grand, 200 grand. And that does not require a marketing degree from some college.” ([11:58])

The Future of American Manufacturing and Big-Ticket Items

• Discusses return of manufacturing leading to lower car prices through competition and improved financing (deductibility).
• Hails a major Arizona semiconductor plant as the future of sophisticated American manufacturing jobs.

“I now make a buck and a quarter... I have the best job every day. I come to work and I love what I do because it’s the most complex, but it’s exactly what I want to do.”
— Lutnick, recounting a technician’s story [15:42]

2. Police Drones and the Erosion of Personal Freedoms

Co-Host: Kyle Olson
[19:16 – 22:56]

Rise of Police Drones and AI Surveillance

• Dixon raises alarms about police drones in places like California and Cincinnati, capable of issuing tickets and enforcing regulations.
• Cites Beryl Lipton (Electronic Frontier Foundation): “There are so few restrictions on police drones when it comes to citizen privacy because the technology is so new.” ([20:19])
• Olson sees drones and speed/red light cameras as a slippery slope: laws don’t keep up with tech, expanding state power.

Public Manipulation via Fear

• Dixon relates drone policy to the fear tactics of COVID-era restrictions (“Wear a mask, stay six feet apart. It's only for 15 days.”), warning about normalization of surveillance.
• Expresses concern: “At a certain point, are we all monitored?...Are we all going to be watched…do we say we're not going to allow ourselves to be facial recognition AI police drones, weaponized drones out on the streets with our kids?” ([21:48])

3. Welfare Fraud, Assimilation, and Political Accountability

Guest: Mahak (attorney and GOP strategist)
[23:02 – 33:16]

Uncovering Welfare Fraud in Ohio and Beyond

• Mahak explains how, after fraud was exposed in Minnesota, similar schemes are being found in Ohio’s large Somali community, primarily through home health care services ([23:53]).
• Home health care fraud: Individuals claim to care for relatives to receive $70,000–$90,000/year, regardless of actual need.
• Whistleblowers report fraud to officials but see no action; “the welfare system is not actually auditing…” ([25:02])

Systemic Failure and Media Denial

• Mahak: States “deny fraud after massive evidence of it,” and distrusts states to self-police. Calls for federal DOJ task force and forensic audits nationwide ([26:38]).
• Argues resources meant for “disabled kids with autism…people that need services” are being exploited by abusers.

“I’m tired of the word ‘racist,’ Tudor. Today it's about…I don't care what you look like...If you come to the United States, you better follow our rule of law. And if you don't, you need to leave.”
— Mahak [27:56]

Political Infiltration & Assimilation

• Mahak highlights elected officials, e.g., Ohio’s Ismail Muhammad, openly prioritizing Somalia over their U.S. districts: “...he is alleging that their main goal is to fight for Somalia, to help Somalian debt and to send money back.” ([30:12])
• Criticizes the asylum/refugee process that allowed “massive communities that never assimilated but turned out to game the system.”

Need for Audits; Political Fallout Predicted

• Recommends federal-state task force for audits. Warns that “any state who doesn’t audit…is hiding something.” ([28:18])
• Dixon and Mahak: Failure to audit and prosecute fraud could fuel a Democratic collapse as public frustration grows.

4. Listener Responses: Outrage and Demand for Accountability

[39:32 – 42:42]

Call-In Highlights

• Cheryl (Wisconsin): "So disgusted" by the uncovered fraud, grateful for citizen journalist Nicholas Shirley, calls for President Trump to “get this guy on his team.” ([40:06])
• Jim (Florida): Demands states like Minnesota be penalized for the fraud, insisting, “I pay taxes in Florida for federal dollars to go to every state in this union, and I want that money back… for every citizen that plays the fair way.” ([41:26])

Hosts’ Takeaways

• Dixon and Olson agree public outrage is driving a demand for accountability.
• Olson underscores the stark contrast between "massive budgets" of legacy media and what a single citizen journalist can uncover ([40:52]).

Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• Howard Lutnick on energy and capitalism:
  “But what we're going to do is we're going to require that these data centers…give 10% of their power to the local grid…So every one of these data centers…becomes a party for the community.” [04:07]
• On tax relief timing:
  “You know when it hits your pocket? April. So what you want to do is you want to have me on this radio show at the end of April when it's, everybody's happy because they finally got the checks in their pockets...” [09:40]
• On jobs and training:
  “We're going to do the greatest training program in the history of America…Jobs start at 75 grand, go up to 150 grand, 200 grand…does not require a marketing degree from some college.” [11:58]
• On citizen journalism:
  “But then you have a citizen journalist that goes up and just asks questions and exposes the truth.”
  — Kyle Olson [40:52]
• On welfare system exploitation:
  “I don't care what you look like. I don't care what you sound like. If you come to the United States, you better follow our rule of law. And if you don't, you need to leave.”
  — Mahak [27:56]
• On new surveillance tech:
  “There are so few restrictions on police drones when it comes to citizen privacy because the technology is so new.”
  — Quoting Beryl Lipton, EFF [20:19]

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Economy & Energy (Howard Lutnick): [03:19 – 15:50]
• Police Drones & Surveillance (Kyle Olson): [19:16 – 22:56]
• Welfare Fraud & Assimilation (Mahak): [23:02 – 33:16]
• Listener Reactions / Citizen Journalism: [39:32 – 42:42]

Episode Tone & Takeaways

The episode harnesses a mix of detailed economic policy discussion, alarmed commentary about new technology and surveillance, and hard-edged critiques of political and bureaucratic failures—delivered with a direct, often confrontational, and activist tone. The hosts encourage listeners to get involved, stay vigilant, and hold leaders accountable, while celebrating the power of local journalism and grassroots outrage.