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Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis and Fox Saxton show. We got a lot to dive into with all of you. Thank you so much for rolling with us. We've got, let me see here, Trump's economy. More coming out on the trade deals. Trump, in fact, said it's going to be very, he's going to be very nice to China. We'll see how long that lasts. Is he going to be nice to China? Is this a head fake? What's going on here? Trump is big Trump. Tom Homan laying down the law here. I, you know, I have borderline Homan man crush. This is a guy who is essential to the future of the Republic, who knows his portfolio as well as anybody and who is just doing a fantastic job for the Trump administration. And he is not going to abide any nonsense when it comes to the efforts to sabotage deportation efforts and the whole Abrego Garcia martyrdom industrial complex that is going on right now. We're not going to allow that to just go or he's not going to allow that to just be a thing where they turn this guy into a symbol. Elon Musk weighing in again. Rough, rough period here for a Tesla profits. Elon's gonna be heading back. I think pretty soon he's gonna be going back to focusing on what it is that he needs to be doing, which is other than Doge, which is running some of the most important and innovative companies in the world markets. Just making sure nothing's changed since I last checked.
Ryan Seacrest
Market day.
Clay Travis
Pretty good. Yeah. Look at. I could, you know how I can tell, guys, Clay's, Clay's pretty cool as a cucumber right now. You know, if I come in here, the market's down 1200 points. Clay has this look on his face. He's not a happy camper about it because, you know, he's got to manage the Clay, the Clay folio, the portfolio of all things Clay. And he does not like it when that market is getting crushed. But let's, let's have some fun with something else for a moment here because, you know, we had on yesterday David Zweig and, and I know, you know, look, talking Covid, some of you are like, oh, we have to move on. You see, what's going on right now is the Democrats are having to exorcise the demons from within a bit here. They're having to at least go through a process of the, the whole Biden dementia cover up. What was that all about? Are they really going to keep pushing on this trans stuff, I think the answer is yes, by the way. But they're at least looking around saying, how do we win on an 80, 20, maybe 90, 10 issue nationally? And then you also have. By the way, Clay, I just one thing I would throw out there. If we had a different Supreme Court. I know this is. I'm weaving here, everybody, but weave with me. If we had a different Supreme Court, you would have trans. The trans agenda would have been mandated the same way Roe v. Wade was. I truly believe that. So if Trump loses and we have a different Supreme Court makeup, you have a diktot from the court years ago saying that, you know, you have to. I actually think that could have happened, as crazy as that may sound now, because we have a more sane court. But on the COVID thing, we had Zweig on yesterday and we were talking to him about the school shutdowns, which is I, you know, Clay, this is tough. So many of. What is the thing that gets you the angriest? And we're going to Randy Weingarten's out there. I'm going to tie this into the news cycle here today in just a moment, everyone. What is the COVID thing that at this point ticks you off the most? I still think the lab leak for our people, for our side, the lie about the lab leak is the one that gets them the most aggravated. What is it for you?
Ryan Seacrest
It's still that kids weren't able to go to school for almost two years. And, and honestly, I thought David Zweig yesterday really kind of brought it home. But I've tried to hammer this as well. The kids that were the most disadvantaged during COVID were the ones that had the least privilege and the least opportunity in the first place. Because if you're Gavin Newsom's kids, he puts you in a private school even while all the public schools are shut down and his kids are getting an elite education. If you are wealthy enough to have private tutors, if you are fortunate enough to have had parents who could be involved in your education because they weren't having to go to work to try to make sure that you had a roof over your head, then Covid was not ideal, but you were able to make through it potentially even thrive. I've said this before, but my he was, I guess, 10 at the time when Covid happened. My 10 year old. When 2020 ended, remember how everybody was celebrating ball drops and they're like, boy, I'm so glad 2020 is over. He was like, no, Dad, 2020 was the best year ever. And I said, well, what do you mean? And he said, dad, we got out of school and didn't have to go back in March. You know, if you're a kid, one snow day is a big deal. They basically got two months of snow days. And he said, and this was, I thought, really kind of touching. He was like, you and mom were home all, all the time. Like you weren't. I wasn't traveling very much for work. Right. So for a lot of young kids, if you were fortunate enough to have parents who were able to be around the household, they came through it fine. They might have even thrived. But on the other hand, if your mom or your dad or you're a single parent household and they're having to bust their ass to try to make sure that you're taken care of and they don't have, quote, non essential jobs or they get to eat Cheetos and watch Netflix from home and order Door Dash. If you don't have all those opportunities, then you might not have had WI Fi at home. You didn't have any real educational environment surrounding you. You had no support structure. We threw the least disadvantaged, the kids who needed school in person the most to the wolves. And unfortunately were reaping, I think the consequences of that awful decision. And a big part of it was, was Randy Weingarten who is still trying to claim, and I think it's important to hold these people accountable, that she had nothing to do with why schools didn't reopen. And it's a lie, and it's a really nasty lie.
Clay Travis
Yeah, it's. It's a Soviet style rewriting of history by the chief teachers union commissar. And I really believe that the chief villain of COVID there were many. The chief villain of COVID is Fauci. But Randy Weingarten was, was right there. You know, if she wasn't Mao, she was Chew and lay. She was the, the next up on, on the podium. She was somebody who was particularly destructive and dishonest. But here she is. She was on first. Well, first of all, she goes on Martha McCallum show and does something. I can tell you Martha's a nice lady, Very, very serious about what she does. Very professional in what she does. She did not appreciate. This is cut 8. Listen to this. We know that money does not equate a better outcome because in Newark, New Jersey, you have a per student per capita expenditure that is one of the highest in the country. And you have actually very, very difficult. Martha, sweetheart, sweetheart, listen to Me. Please don't call me sweetheart. She does. I'm sorry, my, my bad, Clay.
Ryan Seacrest
You know, first of all, I love Martha. I love Martha.
Clay Travis
First Amendment and sweetheart. I was just waiting for her to say it.
Ryan Seacrest
I do, I do that show with Martha every Friday. She's super smart. I love her. What is Randy Weingarten thinking calling, I don't know, sweetheart? That is just super. First of all, Randy weingarten isn't a 90 year old man. Right? So in order for Martha McCollum to be like a sweetheart to somebody, it's like a grandfatherly older figure. Right? Randy Weingarten is in rough contemporary universe age with Martha. Super weird answer there. And Martha's also really good, like on the fly. A lot of people worry about what the response is going to be. She just like comes back immediately. So good for her. But. But what Martha's pointing out there that Randy's trying to cut off is if we just looked at pure per pupil expenditure, many Democrat cities should have the greatest students of all time because the amount of money that's being spent on public education is legitimately off the charts. If you compared as Martha was just doing Newark, New Jersey with I bet per pupil spending in North Dakota. And I was just with the former governor of North Dakota, Doug Burgum. So I'm using, he's going to be on with us a little bit after one. I had breakfast with him this morning in Franklin. I bet that North Dakota spends a fraction of the dollar per pupil that Newark, New Jersey does. And I bet they get 10x the results. Right? So the idea of hey, it's all money is what Martha's calling into question. But then, Buck, have you looked at the Supreme Court argument that happened yesterday? The books that they are trying to defend reading to kindergartners and first graders in Montgomery County, Maryland. We need to read some of what these titles were. They managed to unite Christians, Jews and Muslim parents, all of whom were like, what in the world is going on here that you're trying to teach? But this is one of the other parts of this was Randy Weingarten getting asked about this cut seven class who's gay, Right.
Clay Travis
You have to figure out a way to create a welcoming and safe environment. But if you also have. We also, if you looked at that same conference, we had tons of time on artificial intelligence on career tech ed. So what teachers have to do is we have to embrace everything, everything that society throws at us, we have to deal with.
Ryan Seacrest
Buck. It's a not stuff it's crazy.
Clay Travis
It's always. First of all, they've tried this book banning thing for a long time, which is just a lie, Right. If you say you don't want copies of Playboy circulated among grammar school kids, you're not banning Playboy, you're just saying don't give it to kids.
Ryan Seacrest
Right.
Clay Travis
I mean, this is pretty straightforward. And that's really what they're talking about. Is the content appropriate for children? No one is gathering, by the way, these gross and often idiotic books, aside from who they're being given to and burning them in big piles or something. But that's the propaganda that they try to push with all of this stuff. But what we're seeing here, I think, is that the teachers unions in general are a malignant force when it comes to children's education, their futures. There should be no such thing as public sector unions for teachers, period. Every state should get rid of them. I know the courts would try to slow this down in places because it's such a source of power. And let's be honest, jobs and money for adults who don't want to have to deal with the accountability that comes along with this. And I could tell a longer version of this story, Clay, but you know, one thing that's, that's getting attention right now is how we need more kids in this country. Yeah, Elon's talking about it. We'll talk about it today on the show. We need more kids. And another thing is we need more family formation. We need families to take more responsibility and put less responsibility on the state. I know people that went in. Did you have anyone from who did Teach for America in your class coming out of gw?
Ryan Seacrest
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Clay Travis
Yeah, so, I mean, my college girlfriend went into Teach for America right out of, you know, sort of my college sweetheart. If you or whatever went into Teach for America and I remember catching up with her years later. And a very short version of some much more in depth conversation is it doesn't really matter what the resources are in the classroom. It doesn't matter how new the computers are, how many administrative staff are hovering around outside the classroom. It's which kids have parents who show up on Parent Teacher Day. That was the Met. And I've been told this by numerous people in the system. It is. And you could say, look, obviously if someone's mom Gets the flu, she can't come. Doesn't mean she's a bad mom. But the point is, the indicators that you can look at are their parents at home, do the parents care? Are they involved?
Ryan Seacrest
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Clay Travis
Matters more than anything, these teachers unions are going to squeeze out of the taxpayer by orders of magnitude. But Randi Weingarten will never talk about that. Notice how she, she just, she's just there to get more money out of all of you. She's there to talk about how it's for the children, just like it wasn't for the children during COVID lockdowns. That was so adults could sit at home and get paid their full salary and do nothing. It's not about the children now. So much so that she'll have them reading this. Look, remember when Ron DeSantis showed what they were, what they were trying to put in Florida schools, which he banned. Thank you Governor DeSantis. Or you know, got kicked out of the schools. They couldn't show it on the news. Clay, if you can't show it on a news channel without blurring it, why are you showing it to third graders in school?
Ryan Seacrest
No, it. It is and I pulled it up. We need to go into some of the things that are being taught. Even the left wing jud judges on the Supreme Court yesterday seemed taken aback by the idea. Remember, this is something that building for some time Florida passed a law that said kindergarten or first, second, third graders KK to 3 should not be taught any kind of sex or gender ideology. I can't imagine a sane parent listening to us right now that thinks that their kindergarten, kindergarten to third grader needs to be taught sex and gender. Related stories in public school, frankly, any school, but certainly not public school. And again, the thing that's wild about this is Muslim, Christian, Jewish parents in Montgomery county all came together and said this is unacceptable. Why in the world is this happening? We managed to do the unbelievable and unite every religious group in common condemnation of the absurdity of what their kids are being taught.
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If you, if you told me in a, in a, let's say like a freshman high school parent teacher day that a, a black or Latino student had both mom and dad show up for both parent teacher days, let's say first semester, second semester and, and a white kid with no parents show up for either one. And you said, which one do I think is more likely to graduate? I would go with a black or Latino student 100 times out of a hundred. And I think the statistics would bear that out again with those factors in place. And you can change the races, you can change the socioeconomics. It's the same story.
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Clay Travis
Back into Clay and Buck. Clay is sending me some of the actual examples here. At issue with the Supreme Court on the books that are. Are in. Are in schools. I just want to say I am. I am generally militantly pro book. I think Clay is as well.
Ryan Seacrest
That's fair. Yes.
Clay Travis
And I'm very pleased. I don't think I mentioned this in the show. I actually went to the Miami beach library and went to donate a whole bunch. I had boxes of books that I just don't have space for anymore. I try not to keep soft covers. I know, I know. But, you know, I don't have space and they fall apart. So I donated. And the. The woman in charge of receiving the donation is a huge Clay and Buck listener. So, Charlotte, really appreciate you listening. She was very pleased she was listening and it was great to see her. I. When I came in, Clay, I thought she was going to fall over for a second. So it was really nice. She's like, you're here. I was like, yes, I am. So I love books and I think what they're doing there, I think libraries are fabulous and super important. And I'm all about if you can get your. If you can get your kids to start doing one thing early in life as a habit. I don't know if there's a better or more fundamental one, at least in the realm of, you know, activity than reading.
Ryan Seacrest
I agree.
Clay Travis
Whatever that is. Just get them reading. Just get them reading. Okay? I'm. I am an absolute evangelist on this. It's the most important thing that my parents encouraged me to do when I was young. And it's just right, Clay. I mean, I think that that's, you know, whether your kid is good or not at geometry. I can speak from experience. Does not matter in his life. Ok. It doesn't matter. Whether your kid reads or not matters. It matters.
Ryan Seacrest
My rule as a parent has been, if you will read it, I will buy it for you. Now, my kids have never tried to get me to buy, I don't know, you know, tantric sex, you know, for, you know, they've never actually. But any book that a kid would want to read, that is a normal book that a kid would read, I would buy for them, was my Rule.
Clay Travis
But, but to see. I just want to establish that because you got two guys here who loves truly, like love, but he writes books. My book, by the way, coming out this fall, all ready to go. Publishers got it all lined up. So it actually is happening. CIA finally cleared it. Some cool stuff in there. We're going to throw some book parties out there. It's going to be fun. Got to do one in Nashville. So, you know, Clay can hang out, but there's going to be book parties and all that good stuff. But I just wanted to say you have two guys here who are, I would say are almost maniacal about pushing books for, for everybody. Adults, kids, everyone. You gotta be reading, gotta be reading. Most important thing as a daily kid, you know, get more sleep, read more, probably drink a little less alcohol. Like this is the most important advice that I think most people could hear. Okay with that. All said, Clay, you like movies? I like movies. We talk about movies on the show. You like watching movies with your kids. There are clearly movies that would be inappropriate for. And what, your youngest boy is what, 10? Am I right?
Ryan Seacrest
10, yeah. Fourth grader.
Clay Travis
Clearly movies that you would never dream of sitting down with. And I'm not even just talking about like adult movies, obviously. That's a whole other thing I'm talking about. There are clearly movies you wouldn't watch with one of your young boys. And it's not even a conversation.
Ryan Seacrest
And TV shows. And you all know it as parents. That's why we have PG, PG 13. R rated movies. It's the entire basis of helping parents to decide what's appropriate for kids at different ages. And by the way, every kid's different. Some kids may be ready for advanced material. I've read that earlier than others. Some people might do better with violence than not scary movies. All these things. Parents all understand this. Buck. Listen to these two books.
Clay Travis
I was going to. I was going to put this. Yes, you can. You can dive into. There's so many of these. My point is merely. We do this all the time. With everything else, we should do it with grammar school kids. Reading list. Go pick out some of the craziest ones that are before the Supreme Court.
Ryan Seacrest
They just look, this is Montgomery County, Maryland. They just had a Supreme Court case over this. This is a lot of Christian, Jewish and Muslim parents said, we object to the story time books that you are reading to our kindergarteners in public schools. This is from the Wall Street Journal. Here are two of them. My Rainbow is about an autistic child named Trinity who says, I Need long hair because I'm a transgender girl. It ends with a surprise gift from Trinity's mother. A teal pink and purple wig. It teaches my rainbow does that sometimes doctors get biology, gender, sex, wrong kindergartners. Is this a book like if you were. If you were Buck in. If you remember being in school, or maybe some of you have gone and volunteered and read some of these books to kids. This is like you used to read, you know, the Little engine that could. You know, something like that. We have something called the Dolly Parton imagination library here. Well, they will send you all these books that are perfect for three, four, five year old kids. They are not particularly ideological in any way. It's just green eggs and ham, right? It's. It's Dr. Seuss. It's the Cat in the hat. It's the little engine that could. All of these books. Goodnight Moon that you may have shown up and read to kids of all different groups at some point in time.
Clay Travis
I just wanted to note that with COVID it was how dare you question doctors or think that doctors could get anything wrong? But it is baked into the gender ideology stuff. Now that a doctor can get it wrong when he looks at a baby's genitals and determines gender at birth.
Ryan Seacrest
Yes.
Clay Travis
Think about how insane that is. They're saying that doctors get. They're not saying that. There's not, oh, you know, it's impossible for doctors to know. They're saying the doctor gets it wrong.
Ryan Seacrest
Which they would never say about an instructed to teach. Buck here is directly from what teachers in Montgomery county were instructed to teach kindergartners, first graders. If a child suggests it's weird to say a girl can become a boy. I'm reading from the Wall Street Journal. The proposed response is to say that comment is hurtful and that when each of us is born, quote, people make a guess about our gender. Kindergarten, first grade, second grade. Here's another one. Bach Born Ready is about Penelope, who tells her mother, I don't feel like a boy. I am a boy. After this single discussion, the mother answers with unquestioning affirmation. Yes, we will make a plan to tell everyone we love. This is crazy town, Buck. I mean, legit insane. When I read this, even as a parent, I couldn't believe that any kid would be exposed to this in a school.
Clay Travis
And I think this is so important because you see this time and again when you're dealing with the left on especially anything having to do with indoctrination in the schools and specifically of Young of young people, people whose minds are being molded by the adults in their, in their world, the environment around them. Clay, they're being. They're being. First of all, they're being told us what happens if Penelope wakes up the next day and says, no, I'm actually a girl. Right.
Ryan Seacrest
I guess you flip back. I don't know. Yeah, you have to tell everybody that you're now a girl again.
Clay Travis
The notion that the affirmation cannot be switched is simply insane. And here's the other part of this. They want this to be taught. It's not like we have shown this, we have exposed this. And the Democrats, the left, the gender ideologues out there have said, oh, wow, I didn't realize it was like this. You're right. Let's make some adjustments to this. Clay, this is a hill that they will die on over and over again. So ask yourself, why is it so important to them? They try to put the burden on us. Why are you banning books in schools, which is a lie. No one's banning books. We're limiting the reading list or the library list for young children. The same way, Clay, you limit movies for your kids. The same way I will limit for my son what movie when he's 8 years old. We're not going to be sitting there watching Terminator 1 together like that's not going to happen. OK, they are the one. Why is it so important to them? And I don't ask that question, Clay, just rhetorically. They clearly think that this is a means of locking in this belief into the broader population so that it's not a 9010 issue in 10 years, in 20 years, so that they can get closer to having the apparatus of the state mandate this insanity.
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And it's also a function of. You're setting these kids up for a great deal of difficulty in the years ahead. The same people who are screaming that science is under attack are simultaneously telling you that doctors get baby genders wrong. And you know how impressionable young kids are if you raise young kids. The reason to your point, Buck, that they want 5, 6 and 7 year olds being exposed to these kind of stories is because they're desperately trying to make sense of the world around them and their minds are so incredibly impressionable. And I just, I think Republicans have done a really poor job responding on this issue because you hit on the attack. It's, oh, they're trying to ban books. And we could have arguments about reasonable, I mean, parent arguments about at what age is it appropriate to read certain Aggressively sexual works, right? Is it 16? Is it 14? Is it 18? Is like, in the same way that we can talk about what age movies are appropriate.
Clay Travis
Can I just. What you see, though, Clay, is that these are suggested reading lists. It's even more. You see what I know.
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It's more pernicious. Buck. This is beyond that. They're actually reading them to the kids in story time.
Clay Travis
This is exactly what I mean.
Ryan Seacrest
It's not crazy.
Clay Travis
It's not even. We have to stop kids as they get older from stumbling upon this. It is. This must be read to children as a function of school policy at the youngest possible age. Why does this matter to them so much? It's a little bit like, why do we have to have men dressed as women doing drag queen story hour for kids? They don't do this for adults.
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Clay Travis
Why are they always doing. Why is it always for the little. And by the way, they don't do it for high school or college kids. I'll tell you, when I was in high school, if some guy showed up and was like, I'm really a woman, I'd be like, no, you're not. So why are they doing this to little kids? There's something very dark and very wrong that's going on here, and I will just say it, and you know it. First of all, Randy Weingarten, who's supposed to be the old grandma who cares about the kids so much, she totally defends this. She's all on board for this. Think about that. This is the mainstream education apparatus pushing this nonsense.
Ryan Seacrest
And this is something where even if you're not, like, I'm not a parent who's ever objected to anything that my kids have read in school. And I feel very fortunate. I love the public schools that my kids have gone to. I've got one in public school right now, and I've never objected to anything that my older kids have been asked to read. I appreciate the schools that they are in now. I've got no issues with. With my kids schools at all. But if I had a kindergartner first grader, second grader, third grader, I mean, this is crazy town. I would object to them being forced to sit and watch a teacher read books like this to them. And I don't know, Buck, that again, we have the Dolly Parton imagination library here. I have read a ton of kids books to my kids over the years, and they have fortunately read at least two of them of the three are willing, willing to read. Uh, but I can't imagine that there are thousands of books that would be great for a kindergarten teacher to read to kids. That has nothing to do with any particular political slant. That has nothing to do with anything. Anything other than encouraging them to like stories and like reading and maybe also build up their toughness a little bit. Like the Little Engine that could. Hey, if I think I can do something, I can, right? This is wild.
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It was one of the best silver lining outcomes of the whole Covid mess was parents all of a sudden recognize what their kids were being taught in school because they were being taught it all of a sudden in the home. So there were some good things that remote work being a little bit more possible for a lot of people. But yeah, that was, I think, a particularly worthwhile outcome. But the stuff that they're teaching these kids, I cannot imagine. Can you imagine sitting down with an administrator at the school that your kids go to, Clay, and having them look you in the eyes and say, yeah, I think we need to have this bondage book on the list that, you know, your 12 year old or your 10 year old is read. Like, that's. This is crazy stuff.
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They're endorsing it. They're endorsing the book, showing the pictures.
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And reading that for the kids. Like that's a limited amount of time. You have to read stories. This is just nasty on a level that I read it Buck and I just thought this, this is really evil. And we gotta get more involved in parents as parents to keep this from happening, I think anywhere.
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Summary of "Hour 1 - We Are Pro-Book, But..."
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Release Date: April 23, 2025
In the first hour of this episode titled "We Are Pro-Book, But...", hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve into pressing issues surrounding education, politics, and societal changes. The conversation navigates through topics such as Trump’s economic policies, the impact of COVID-19 on education, the role of teacher unions, and the contentious debate over gender ideology in early education.
Timestamp: [02:32]
Clay Travis initiates the discussion by analyzing former President Donald Trump's economic strategies, particularly focusing on trade relations with China. He references Trump's ambiguous stance, stating, "Trump, in fact, said it's going to be very, he's going to be very nice to China. We'll see how long that lasts" ([02:32]). Travis expresses skepticism about the sustainability of Trump's approach, questioning whether it’s a genuine shift or merely a tactical maneuver.
Timestamp: [04:09]
The conversation shifts to the repercussions of the COVID-19 pandemic on the education system. Travis highlights the disparity in the pandemic's impact based on socioeconomic status, emphasizing that "the kids that were the most disadvantaged during COVID were the ones that had the least privilege and the least opportunity in the first place" ([06:21]). He criticizes the handling of school shutdowns, attributing significant blame to Randy Weingarten and the teachers' unions for impeding the reopening of schools and creating what he terms the "Abrego Garcia martyrdom industrial complex."
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Clay Travis critiques the influence of teachers' unions, particularly Randy Weingarten, accusing them of prioritizing their interests over students' well-being. He asserts, "teachers unions in general are a malignant force when it comes to children's education, their futures" ([08:51]). Travis argues for the dissolution of public sector unions for teachers, citing their role in inflating taxpayer costs and resisting accountability.
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The hosts discuss recent Supreme Court cases concerning the appropriateness of certain books in public school curricula. Travis mentions the case from Montgomery County, Maryland, where Christian, Jewish, and Muslim parents united against books they deemed inappropriate for young children. He questions the rationale behind teaching gender ideology to kindergarten and first-grade students, labeling it "insane" and arguing that it imposes specific ideologies on impressionable minds ([26:26]).
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Timestamp: [29:17]
Travis and Sexton delve deeper into the controversy of gender ideology being introduced in early education. They critique specific books like "My Rainbow" and "Bach Born Ready," which include themes of gender identity and transition at a Kindergarten level. Travis challenges the logic of medical professionals suggesting that "doctors get it wrong" regarding a baby's gender at birth, calling the concept "insane" ([32:11]).
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Both hosts emphasize the critical role of parental involvement in a child's educational success. Travis shares personal anecdotes underscoring how parental engagement, rather than financial resources, significantly influences student outcomes. He posits that "the number one most important ingredient to success at a school is how involved are the parents across the board" ([24:21]).
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Timestamp: [26:26]
Travis passionately advocates for the importance of reading in early childhood development. Sharing his personal commitment, he states, "It's the most important thing that my parents encouraged me to do when I was young... Whether your kid is good or not at geometry. I can speak from experience. Does not matter in his life" ([27:56]). Both hosts agree on fostering a love for reading as foundational for children's growth and resilience.
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Timestamp: [43:40]
Towards the end of the episode, Clay Travis teases upcoming segments, including an interview with Doug Burgum, North Dakota’s Governor and the current Secretary of the Interior. Topics will cover his efforts to increase oil and gas production, the renaming of a national park in honor of Jocelyn Nungarry, and broader energy policies ([44:15]).
The episode concludes with Travis and Sexton reiterating the need for greater parental involvement in education, opposition to current teachers' union policies, and a staunch defense of maintaining age-appropriate educational content. They call for parents to stay vigilant and engaged to ensure that educational institutions prioritize students' best interests over ideological agendas.
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This episode provides a critical lens on the intersection of education, politics, and societal values, urging listeners to advocate for transparent and student-centered educational policies.