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Buck Sexton
Welcome, everybody to the Thursday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. And I'm telling you, we got a lot to get into today. Big things happening, lots of news. Our man Clay Travis enjoying a much deserved vacation with the fam. He's with the boys and Lara out west. I think they're skiing, having a great time. He sends you all high fives and hugs. He'll be back on Monday. We have a bunch of things to get into. First of all, more in the on the after aftermath of the detention and imminent deportation of Palestinian slash pro Hamas activist Mahmoud Khalil. We've gotten some clarification from at least I think it's a clarification or there is clarity now from I keep wanting to say Senator, Secretary of State Marco Rubio on just exactly what's going on with that and what is the authority that he is using. We got clarity. I asked for it. I'll tell you about that in just a little bit. Politico with an exclusive. I think you could call this a maybe a trial balloon, a testing the waters moment. Guess who is skipping a possible Senate run on the Democrat side in Michigan because he has his eyes on a bigger prize, the White House. Oh, some of you have guessed, but I'm going to keep you on the edge of your seats. And if you're wondering, like who is it? Oh, I'll tell you because I think if this is the case, things are looking really good for the Republicans in 2028. And we've got a lot more to get into. Want to throw out there for you. 800 282, 282 on the phones. Let's get some calls in today. Let's talk, let's chat. Want to hear from you all over the country. Oh, Updates on Rosie O'Donnell. Rosie O'Donnell and she has moved to Ireland as we talked about yesterday. Trump, I believe, has weighed in on this and we shall discuss that. We've also got a bunch more on immigration. Look, the economy stuff is, you know, yesterday we were going deep on what's happening with tariffs, what's happening with the stock markets and the day before that. So we'll touch on a bit more of it today. But I really think made the case yesterday that needs to be made right now, which is everybody just needs to chill. Trump knows what he's doing. Things are going to get better quickly. But it's not an overnight process. Rome wasn't built in a day. And we will, we will get there. Okay. I want to start with immigration Today, actually. And what is going on here? First of all, there is this New York City mayoral candidate was at the New York State Capitol in Albany and this guy's name is Zoran Mamdani. So Zoran Mamdani rushed after border czar Tom Homan, who is, I just think is a superstar in this Trump administration. You know, I felt the way all along, somebody who knows the subject matter and is a warrior for the law, for sovereignty, for Americanism, he knows this stuff backwards and forwards. So this, this guy who's running for mayor against, really now Cuomo, runs at home and starts shouting at him. Just, just so you know, this is the kind of Democrat who's looking to lead the biggest city in America these days. Play cut one. How many more New York? Do you believe in the First Amendment? Do you believe in the First Amendment? Tom Oman? How many more New York? Tom Holman just screaming. He's on video. He love. He's yelling at Tom Homan. Well, Tom Holman does not care. In fact, if anything, I think Tom was probably cracking a smile as some Democrat activist slash politician is shouting at him about all this. Here's why they're so upset. Uh, there's a few things. As you know, the Mahmoud Khalil situation has gotten the left very riled up right now. This is, I think, a bad place for them to be. This is the hill they want to fight on. Is a guy who is very, who was pro, not just Hamas, but was make the stuff that this guy has said about destroying Western civilization. I mean, this guy is, is not somebody that we want in the country and that I've been clear on all along. Now we'll get into Marco Rubio here in a little bit, establishing exactly what the authority is to deport him. But here's why this matters a lot. Here's why the situation of the border czar and it's going to be Kristi Noem as well at dhs. Look, she's doing a great job so far. Holman's doing a great job. They're following through on the promises of the Trump campaign and of the Trump movement. But here's the issue we've had in the past. These sanctuary cities, right, and the Democrat controlled states that decide that they're going to play all kinds of games to make it as hard as possible for federal law to be enforced. No one disagrees, and this is clear or this is important, no one disagrees that the federal laws that Tom Homan is trying to enforce aren't actually federal law. You'll notice there's no movement among Democrats in Congress to change the laws so that these individuals would be. At least they're not open about this. So that these individuals would no longer be deportable. They want a blanket mass amnesty. Right? They're not willing to go in there and say, hey, and they don't have the power right now anyway because they have to lie to you. The lie is that they don't want these illegals here. They do. They want the illegals here. But if they're too open about that, they lose power, as just happened in this election. So what do we do about this? Tom Holman has an idea. And Governor Kathy Hochul may be finding out the hard way. This is cut to. He's just saying, look, if you continue to obstruct federal law enforcement in the state of New York, there's gonna be real problems for you. 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Tom Homan
You know, you got. Governor Hochul stood on national TV after NYPD officers were assaulted saying she thinks criminal aliens should be deported. She said the same thing after a young woman was burned alive on a subway by an illegal alien. So she says, yeah, criminal alien should be deported. However, when Mayor Adams meets with me and wants to help us arrest criminal animals, get us back in Rikers island, she goes down and tries to fire them. She's got the green light law where ICE officers and CBP officers can't get. Can't get DMV data. When they pull a car. Car over here, they don't even know who they are because they can't get data from DMV because she locked them out. And if she says they need a warrant to get that data, and if they get the warrant to get that data, what's New York do? They notify the bad guy that we're investigating them. So I'm up here calling her out for sanctuary policies.
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Buck Sexton
Look, this is critical. We are getting at the heart of the real problem here with immigration enforcement, which is that these sanctuary states and city and cities are decided. Have decided that the federal law does not matter and they will not work with the federal law enforcement officers. In fact, they will hide information from them. No one's even saying, hey, you have to be deputized. Although I shouldn't say no one. That hasn't been the case in the past, though. Hey, you have to be deputized and be a part of our federal enforcement efforts. Right? There's. There has to be some agreement on that. You can't just commandeer, if you will, state troopers as a Federal law enforcement officer and said, well, you're now doing this for us. Right? There's obvious separation of powers, state and federal that come into play. But what, what he's talking about, what Tom Holman is, is laying out there, is that New York, and I'm sure it's true in California and a bunch of other states as well, but New York is the one I'm most focused on right now, will not, will not give data from the DMV to the federal, federal law enforcement authorities. Because it's a state dmv. Right. Every state has their own Department of Motor Vehicles. And New York will not give access to federal law enforcement. In the prison systems. In the prison systems. Think about this. They're like, oh, no, you can't. There's an illegal who, you know, who we picked up for, you know, rape. You're not allowed to come in and then, and then take him into custody and deport him. Well, hold on a second. Why? Ah, we're forcing their hand. And this is what Trump and the team, and you know, Stephen Miller, who has been brilliant on immigration issues all along, another warrior, I mean, between, between Homan and, and Miller, I mean, you've got two guys who have this issue so squared away and there's more coming. And this is the good news and this is why you're going to see things heating up and Democrats are going to get even more freaked out. CNN reporting that the Trump administration is expected to invoke the Alien enemies Act of 1798, a sweeping wartime authority in the coming days. This is CNN reporting and this is designed to speed up the president's mass deportation pledge. This is, this is where things are going to start to get really interesting. Trump and his team are, instead of trying to get Democrats to be honest and fair minded, they're either, either using leverage over them, things like federal funding to sanctuary cities, they're using the levers that they have to get cooperation. And this will all, of course, I'm sure, get tied up in courts at some point. But I think the Trump team is on firm ground with this. And, and they are using authorities that a lot of people haven't really spent much. People don't even really know or there or have not been willing to use in the past. And this, this reminds me of, and we'll get the, the Marco Rubio cut here where he talk in a few minutes where he talks about how is it that he can just say Mahmoud Khalil needs to leave. And I just wanted an explanation of it. So we're all clear. He gives the explanation. I will play it for you. But Trump in the executive branch actually has a lot of authority over immigration enforcement. You know, think about it this way. Biden was, was a. And when I say Biden, you know, I mean the Biden regime, right? So you don't have to remind me that it wasn't really Biden and that, you know, he was taking naps and drinking from a sippy cup and they were using the auto pen when he was asleep. I know, we all know, right? Even Democrats know that now, or at least they've been forced to face up to it. But the Biden regime decided that immigration laws would just not be enforced. They decided that through their executive authority of enforcement that they would non enforce or that they would essentially nullify a lot of immigration laws. Trump and his team are taking it in the other direction. They're looking at every statutory authority that they currently have. They notice they're not going to Congress on bend the D because you can't trust a lot of Republicans on immigration either. And you know that, you've seen it. But they're not going to Congress and saying, hey, can you, can we do a grand bargain and let's negotiate this for the next nine months and figure out how we're going to. They're saying, what do we already have the power to do, what authorities already exist for us. And even if it hasn't been used in a while, I'm going to tell you, has anyone ever heard of someone who's here on a green card, who's acting like a jerk, who hates America, being told, see you later, you're gone? I'd never heard of that before. Turns out, turns out you can do that. Turns out when you're a visitor, you do not, in fact have the same constitutional or due process rights as US Citizens do. You are here by our permission and by our grace as the American people. And I think Marco Rubio has made that very clear. So there's a lot of moving pieces here. And by the way, I haven't even gotten into what's going on over the epa. My man Lee Zeldin is running up the scoreboard for sanity over there already. The EPA administrator, he is going to become the most well known EPA administrator since Walter Peck and Ghostbusters. This is going to be a fantastic slew of changes that you see coming right now. It's underway, so I'm going to unpack that EPA piece of it. Also. Fascinating stuff going on. I was talking about immigration Enforcement in the interior but with the border and with the cartels too, have not forgotten about that piece of this. We have so much to dive into. I'm going to tell you some things going on with the cartel that you need to know about that show us. Trump team is very serious about that as well. And Mexico is starting to get, the Mexican government is starting to get the message. So we are racked in stack. Stay with me. We'll get into that in just a few minutes. To my fellow firearms owners, the best kept secret for the best price point firearms you could find anywhere. I mean if you want to get a really good reliable firearm at a price that is simply unbeatable, you need to know about Bear Creek Arsenal. Okay. Bear Creek Arsenal makes all of its guns right here in America, North Carolina. I've been to their factory. No retail stores, which means no retail markup. That's key. That's how they keep their prices so low. 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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We'll be joined by our friend Carol Markowitz in the third hour. And we'll talk to her a bit more about Mahmoud Khalil and the anti Semitic protests at Columbia and how the Trump administration is handling all that. But first up, this, this was my initial question about this because I think I'm not the only one here. I've never heard of somebody being sent home or expelled from this country for saying things that are anti American. There are a lot of college professors that would fall into that category. But there, those are American citizens, generally speaking, right? Or at least I think so. Most of them are. There's plenty of anti Americanism on the left. But if you're a citizen, you're allowed to be. You're allowed to hate America. It's called the Democrat Party. Right. I think you have to have some problem, big problems with America. But here we have Senator, sorry, I did it. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who is just laying it out. He's saying, look, you're going to be, you're going to be a jerk who hates America. You don't have to be here and we can send you home. This is cut 8. Play it.
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Marco Rubio
If you tell us when you apply. Hi, I'm trying to get into the United States on a student visa. I am a big supporter of Hamas, a murderous, barbaric group that kidnaps children, that rapes teenage girls, that takes hostages, that allows them to die in captivity, that returns more bodies than life hostages. If you tell us that you are in favor of a group like this, and if you tell us when you apply for your visa, and by the way, I intend to come to your country as a student and rile up all kinds of anti Jewish student, anti Semitic activities. I intend to shut down your universities. If you told us all these things when you applied for a visa, we would deny your visa. I hope we would. If you actually end up doing that once you're in this country on such a visa, we will revoke it. And if you end up having a green card, not citizenship, but a green card as a result of that visa while you're here and those activities going to kick you out.
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Buck Sexton
Ok. This is the authority that he has. It's on the books. At least that's my understanding, having looked at some of the statutes that are floating around. So, yeah, you know, you say things and you act like a jerk. You're a guest. The guest is sent home. There you go. So I did not realize that they had quite as much authority under the immigration laws as they do on this issue. There is now initially people are saying, oh, but he, you know, he did material support or he committed a crime. Like, well, you can't really get in trouble for a crime if, if no one charges you with the crime. Right? Like that's where the. No, in this case, it's any reason or no reason. It's like an at will employee. It's like an at will visa situation. So they're pulling it now. I will say there, there will be Democrats who will want to do the same thing down the line, and we may not like who they want to kick out of the country, but we shall see. In the meantime, Rubio laid it out there. 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And they just shout and shout and shout and try to create some kind of momentum against it, try to stop the momentum that Trump has. So that's why I'm sitting here looking at what's going on with the Department of Education, which has already lost almost half of its staff and had offices shut down. And apparently that's just the beginning with the EPA under Lee Zeldin. Big changes underway there, trying to keep up with all this. The moves that, that Kristi Noem at DHS and Homan and the White House is taking on immigration enforcement and deportations. It's. We're. We got a lot of things going on here. Right. So trying to unpack them piece by piece. By the way, breaking news. Speaking of how much stuff is going on here right now as I talk to you, protesters have occupied. Oh, boy. Occupied Trump Tower and are chanting free Mahmoud, the guy who's about to get the boot from this country. And as we discussed and Secretary Rubio laid out, he doesn't have a right to be here and we don't want him here. So we're allowed to say, the government's allowed to say go home. But they're very upset. They have, let me see, not in our name T shirts on. Opposing fascism is Jewish tradition. Fight Nazis, not students. These are their signs that they have in Trump Tower right now. I'm reading them. I see them on the screen. These people are nuts. These people are nuts. Now, this is the spectacle that they want. One thing you can always tell at these lib protests, they all. For every person who's shouting and screaming and, you know, their nose ring is about to fall off or whatever, they've got people that are videotaping all of this, you know, videotaping themselves, because this is really about them. This is really about the people that are there feeling good about themselves. They're not really going to change anything anyway. Put that aside. They all have matching T shirts on. This looks very astroturf, the whole thing. We will get into this. I think a lot of this, they're pretending this is Jews for. Wow. There is a sign that is Jews for Palestinian freedom. Just let that one, let that one sink in for a second. Think about that right now, holding up that sign, given what's gone on over there. And I can tell you this. There are no Palestinians holding up stop murdering Jews in Israel signs. In fact, there are no Palestinians in any numbers holding up signs that say, hey, Jews are people too. Maybe we should just learn to live with them. This. This is the reality of this conflict. Oh, boy. So anyway, we're Carol Markowitz. The good news is she's joining us the third hour. She's all over this issue. We'll talk to her about it. You know her from the Clambok podcast network. I want to talk, go back to the border here for a second. I know I'm throwing a lot of things at you. It's great that we have a podcast of the show. So if you want to go back and, and hear some of the details or if you had to do something at the office, I love that some of you sneak Clay and Buck show in your ear with, like, an earbud when you're stuck in a cubicle somewhere. It reminds me of, like, Neo in the Matrix and the cubicles. Like, we're. We're part of the resistance with you. You know what I'm saying? But if you had to step away for a second because Lumberg wanted to make you write some TPS reports, you can always go back to the podcast that brings me to the border. And some stuff I want to talk to you about that actually is not really in the news cycle, but I think is very interesting. I think is a, is a, is a big deal right now. First of all, you have a lot of talk so far about how the border, the illegal crossings down 95%, I think it is, call it roughly 95%. So the human trafficking problem at our border in less than two months has been solved by Trump. Any other issue that I would talk to you about that's of public, you know, public concern now, policy concern. If I said this number is too high and you came to me and said, well, the administration will bring it down 95% the first 60 days, you would say, come on, come on, not possible. They've done it 95%. Now, on the one hand, this is high fives and congrats to the White House for getting it done. And we're thankful that they're following through on this promise. But there's also, I have to balance that with the anger, the rage of, oh, so Biden really did just make it a wide open border. The Biden regime. And I said it all along. Clay and I have talked about this with you all along, that they were choosing A wide open border. But now we have the proof. Because if you can shut it down in 60 days, for it to be 10 million plus in four years is. It was a policy. It was a strategy. They got what they wanted. They betrayed the American people. They betrayed our sovereignty. They betrayed the trust in them to enforce the law, whoever was signing things in Biden's name. So all of that going on, but there's another thing that has happened at the border, too, that you should definitely know about. And it's early days in this one, but the fentanyl seizures at the US Border are showing it is the lowest in at least three years. Already, it has dropped. I was just looking this up, looking this up last night. And Hatip Yoen Grillo, who has been one of the best reporters on the cartels and what's going on with the drug trade in Mexico for. He's done this for 20 years. 75% drop, according to Mexico's figures. Now, you might say, oh, well, Mexico wants to seem like they're being a good partner, sure. But we have a 95% drop in human trafficking. And the human trafficking and the narco trafficking go hand in hand. I've explained this process before, so pardon me if you've already heard this, but just really quickly. When I was down at the border with Texas national guard back in 2018. 2019. Or no, it was 2020. 2020. I can't even remember now, but as some years back, it was under. Under Biden. I'm sorry, it was under Biden. So it would have been 20, 21, I think, when I was down there and. And I was seeing what was going on. They would have the human trafficking piece, the human trafficking component, meaning actual boatloads of women and children. Now, of course, that also you have to be. We got our border patrol guys who are there. Look, they're. They're moms, their dads. They're human beings. They don't want a little kid to drown. So they have to be careful about the humanitarian mission now. And so they cross with the human trap. The human. The cartels, the coyotes do this on purpose. They send over, like, a flotilla of women and children. And then all of our border patrol resource, they got to watch them, they got to collect them, they got to process them. They got to, you know, make sure that they're safe. And I saw this. They had night vision. They gave us night vision, their night vision to borrow, so we could see night vision. You see it down there, and then you look down at the other End. We're on some high, pretty high ground. You look down the other end, maybe a half mile, a mile out from where that happens, and guess what? Speedboats. Meeting, meeting. A pickup truck, boom, loaded with fentanyl, loaded with drugs, gone, never to be found, because all the resources went to the human trafficking. So these things go. I mean, that's just one example of it. But these things go hand in hand. The Trump administration looks like it has brought down fentanyl imports into this country dramatically in 60 days. Because, like I said, these things are synergistic. They work together, the human trafficking piece and the drug trafficking piece. And that just shows you not only are we dealing with illegal, the illegal immigration issue. Trump is dealing with it, his team is dealing with it. It. But you also have a likely reduction in people's ability to get fentanyl. And you know, you're going to bring down hopefully, hopefully overdose deaths and everything that goes with, remember, overdose deaths. That's the leading indicator of how much of this stuff is going on. But there's, you know, there's just family shattered, crimes committed. The amount of destruction that fentanyl is doing to our society, it's like a weapon of mass destruction, as we know. And bringing this down, bringing this number under control, is a huge win for the Trump administration. That hasn't really gotten as much attention yet, right? Hasn't really gotten as much attention. So I think that's really interesting. Something else I wanted to note. Mexico is waking up to the fact that Trump is not playing games. He's serious about this stuff. He's serious about using the threat of tariffs to get greater cooperation from our partners at the border. And there seems to be some indications that Mexico might be getting ready for some major actions on the cartel. We've, we've discussed this a little bit in the past. I don't know how many of you have even heard about this, but this is Attorney General Pam Bondi. This was from the Office of Public affairs in the doj. The United States took custody. This was just a couple of weeks. This is just in the last couple of weeks of 29 cartel bosses. I mean, big names in the cartel world. We took them from Mexico. We took custody of them. Claudia Sheinbaum, who is the, the president of Mexico, has said, you know what? I'm. You want them, you got. I'm, I'm sending them. Even in cases, it seems, so far, I think some of this is now going to be adjudicated in the Mexican court system, whatever that means. Whole other conversation but they've been taken into U.S. custody. These drug cartel, and I'm talking about from Sinaloa Cartel, Jalisco Nuevo Generacion Cartel, cjng, Nueva Familia, Mihuacana Cartel, De Golfo, the Gulf Cartel. I mean, the big names, big bosses from the big name cartels in the last two weeks have been sent to America to our federal prison system. The facility, I think it's the facility in Brooklyn that's near the Navy. Is it the mcg? I think it is. There's the Manhattan one, which. That's the one where Epstein, quote, killed himself. Put that aside. And then there's the one in Brooklyn. I think the one in Brooklyn now has P. Diddy. I think it has, it has Sam Bankman Fried. It had. And now it has one of the top, or a couple of the top cartel guys that Mexico has had in custody. I mean, big, big names. And they're taking them or they've, they've extradited them to us already without going through the process of making sure, this is my understanding of it, that they can't be executed here because some of these guys are wanted for ordering dozens, really realistically, hundreds of murders, some of these individuals, and they're now in U.S. custody. And it's the Trump administration now that's going to be bringing charges. So some of these cartel guys who thought, oh, I'll ride it out with this Mexican government and, you know, eventually I'll either break out or I'll pay somebody off and I'll get out early or whatever. Now some of these guys are facing possibly the death penalty because there were, there were. Pam Bondi's DOJ was not going to give any concessions to the Mexican government. Oh, no, we won't. They were extradited without those assurances. So this is, you see how that is an escalation that is really interesting for where things are right now. Are, you know, are we going to start going in with more, more resources against the cartels? Like I said, human trafficking down. Fentanyl down. There are reports that we are flying drones just for surveillance purposes now, more than people have seen in the past over Mexican airspace. I can neither confirm nor deny. Right. I don't know. But there are reports about this like we might be gearing up for something. So just remember that I told you about this, because some of these pieces, the fact that you've had this unprecedented mass extradition of cartel bosses to the US Facilities, federal facilities in Houston, Chicago, New York, Phoenix, San Antonio, they have dispersed the cartel leadership to US Prisons where they ain't getting out. Something's going on here. They're get. They're getting ready. They're getting ready for some kind of a move. This Trump team is not messing around. All right. How awesome is it to come home after a long day to the delicious smell in the kitchen? 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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
We are seeing arrests happen right now at Trump Tower in New York. So these lunatics are already getting taken off in. In the paddy wagons. I'm Irish by heritage, so I can say the paddy wagon. Now we've got a couple of talkbacks. Remember, talk Back is a great feature. I heart App, Press the microphone at the Clay and Buck page. Send us a. Send us a voicemail, basically. It's fantastic. A a in the talkback here, play it.
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JM from Utah
Hey, Buck, this is JM From Utah. Love your show. You and Clay's show. Yesterday, you mentioned you discovered something about classical music while in Nashville, Tennessee. I was wondering if you could expound a little bit more on that. Thank you.
- [35:37]
Buck Sexton
So I was walking past a McDonald's, and I walked past it several times over the course of my stay in Nashville, and it was blasting opera. I think it was Rigoletto. It was blasting opera. And I was like, McDonald's is blasting opera. That's cool. From speakers outside. And I. And I realized, like, well, hold on a second. It's not just, like, one guy who likes opera. This must be a thing. They play this music because the drug addicts and the craziest stay away from the parking lot in the vicinity because of the classical music. They play Mozart, they play opera because I asked some locals, I said, is that what's going on? Because I had heard about this in some subways and things before. It's remarkable. So I love that. I'm like, they're playing beautiful. You walk down the street, they're playing beautiful music. I love classical music, especially flute, as you know. And they're playing the stranger music. And it keeps away people who are doing drugs and, you know, panhandling and harassing people because they just don't like the classical music. I, you know, who would have thought that, you know, Rigoletto would scare people away? To me, I was, like, ready to start dancing around.
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