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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Welcome, everybody. Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show kicks off now and we are honored to have all of you. Thanks for hanging out. And we have the aftermath of the big White House showdown yesterday. Really more of a, more of a gathering showdown because you didn't have Zelensky and Putin staring across the table at each other. That may be in the works, though. In fact, Trump spoke to that. We will let you hear from the president on that this morning. Called in Fox and Friends. Also, the big, big question after some of the discussions yesterday, does a security guarantee for Ukraine involve US Troops in any capacity? Trump has addressed that, as I thought he would. And I think it's something that you will all certainly want to hear and be pleased with what his take is on that. So we'll get into that some early crime data out of D.C. that clay is going to hit you with in the either later this hour or the next hour. But does anyone a guess just up front before, before Clay sheds light via statistics on what's happening in D.C. with crime? Do you think if you put more good guys with guns who are law enforcement, who are federal agents on the streets of a place, will there be more or less fewer or more murders, fewer or more robberies? You know, just, we'll all think this through for a second and then we'll get into the numbers because I want us to go through that exercise. Clay Democrats are going to start acting shocked by all this. Like, oh my gosh, you, you mean to tell me that more cops enforcing the law and present to arrest bad people from doing bad things means there is less bad stuff that happens? This is shocking.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, I want to dive into that. Also. I will suggest that all of the coverage about more police officers may also drive down the amount of crime because the bad guys are maybe looking over their shoulder a little bit more or they're more cognizant of the dangers that can be out there for Them because they're aware that this is now a priority. So I would submit it's not even just the guys on the streets arresting the bad guys. It's letting the bad guys know, hey, we're looking for you, and we got a lot more people out than normal.
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Clay Travis
Yes, There's. There's the additional deterrence factor of we have more people out there, and they are being politically supported in their law enforcement efforts. You're not going to be able to pull out a camera and be like, I'm. I'm not resisting while you're resisting. And, like, why are you. You know, this is. You see all these videos of people who. They refuse to comply, and they keep saying, I'm complying while they're, like, elbowing the cop in the face. So, yeah, enough of that all. Speaking of that, did you see the video of the I for, you know, different terms everywhere, but essentially the, like, county prosecutor from Massachusetts, the woman I don't even know, this is. Do you see this is going viral? Who's telling the cop while she's super.
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Buck Sexton
Drunk, and I'm a DA and he's like, congrats for you, or whatever.
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Clay Travis
Good for you. Yeah, I know this. I know this from cop friends of mine and from just seeing things out in the real world. I think there are few things that are more likely to get you arrested by a cop than breaking the law and acting like a jackass. Who's allowed to break the law when the cop is like, you can't do that. Like, if I were a cop and someone tells me, oh, I'm effectively, I'm above the law. I'm a D.A. it's like, well, now you're de. People try this with speeding tickets. People try this with all kinds of things. Thank God for body cameras, because the cops know. The cops know that their actions are correct. They know that it's being recorded. So all this bullying that you get from this female DA who is just. I think the Scottish would say bluetard. She is just bombed out of her mind drinking whatever it is she's drinking. And, Clay, this is the truth. It's a great thing for cops because we can see what they actually do, and therefore, they can't be bullied by people who are like, I know your boss. Anyway. Oh, and then one other question I just want to throw out there before we get into the aftermath. Statements from Trump. Clay raised this. I've thought about this many times myself. Our friend Pete Hegseth, Secretary of Defense, out there in a video. Ladies sadly, he has a shirt on during it. But, but just. I think RFK Jr. Does not have his shirt on during it. Right. Is that. Am I correct in that or.
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Buck Sexton
No, no, no. He's got his shirt. At least that I got a shirt. Yeah.
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Clay Travis
Okay. All right. Because, because he does like to work out without a shirt on. We're aware of that. Yes, but that's what, that's a choice. Whatever. I always, we all get with that. Why does RFK Jr work out in jeans?
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Buck Sexton
It's diabolical.
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Clay Travis
I'm not, I'm not saying I'm some kind of expert. Clearly not. Okay, we all, we. I'm not. But jeans are not a comfortable thing to work out in. And if you notice.
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Buck Sexton
And a full belt and a belt.
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Clay Travis
Jeans with a belt on, like Incredible Hulk style. Except the jeans aren't all like broken.
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Buck Sexton
From where I get it. If you're campaigning and you're like, hey, let me just rep out 20 push ups to show what good shape I'm in, it's not scheduled, but they had a scheduled workout and RFK rolled in in jeans and a belt to do a push up and, and pull up challenge. And I just, it, I think it's diabolical. I don't know what the thought process is. Maybe the late, the least comfortable outfit to work, jeans, like starchy uncomfortable Wrangler or Levi's, whatever it is, jeans and a belt. Like, I don't even like wearing belts for normal life.
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Clay Travis
It's weird. So why is he doing it? I'm just throwing this out there. I know it's not important. Ok, we'll talk about important stuff now, but it's just a fun thought. Here's the important stuff. Trump on the Ukraine war. First of all, the two big takeaways. What comes next and what's the status? If there is an agreement of U.S. troops to guarantee security, this is cut one. Here's what Trump said.
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Donald Trump
I wouldn't say they are ever going to be best friends, but they're doing okay and we're just going to see. So we're setting up a meeting. I sort of set it up with Putin and Zelensky and you know, they're the ones that have to call the shots where we're 7,000 miles away. In all fairness, you know, we have, we spent through the previous administration $350 billion. Europe has spent a lot. Also 100 billion. But it should be reversed if we should have been in for anything. But it wouldn't have happened. So that would have been Much better because so many people died. This is the biggest. This is the biggest bad situation since World War II. There's been nothing even close.
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Clay Travis
Clay, he's getting them to sit down. And this process is unfolding in a way where you're seeing who wants there to be, who is rooting for peace, and who cares more about a temporary setback for Trump's legacy than stopping mass death and carnage in Europe.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, look, I don't think you can criticize Trump for anything he is doing trying to stop the fighting in Ukraine. Now, as we talked about yesterday, I think you're in a tough spot where Russia is demanding territory and Ukraine is demanding that they never have to be in this situation again. And I don't see any way that Ukraine agrees to any of this without substantial security guarantees, because they've already been screwed on security guarantees before. And so I think it's going to put us into a tough spot. Now, I think Trump, and this is what I was going to mention, I didn't mention it yesterday. For all of the criticism out there about Trump, I think he desperately wants to win the Nobel Peace Prize. I think he does. And my only concern about that, which is a very incredibly defensible goal that's fabulous, is could his pursuit of the Nobel Peace Prize, which is the exact opposite of all of his critics who say, oh, he's going to start World War Three, he's Adolf Hitler. Could his pursuit of the Nobel Peace Prize make him accept a ceasefire peace agreement that is actually not in the best interest of the larger world? That's my only concern at this point about. I think Trump wants peace so badly that he may be willing to give the benefit of the doubt to Vladimir Putin about his future aggressions after Trump is gone. Because I do think once this war is stopped, I don't think Vladimir Putin is going to do anything while Trump is still in office. But I think Putin can play the long game because he may be in power for another 20 years and Trump is going to be gone in three and a half.
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Clay Travis
Another very important follow up, Clay, was on the issue of US Troops as a guarantee of security, that being either a base, a US Base there, which would be the most extreme, I think, version of the guarantee, something like what we have in South Korea, or even the promise by some binding treaty or agreement, obligation, whatever, that the US Will be the cavalry coming over the hill if Russia were to invade after a deal had been agreed to. Here is what Trump says about this play. For what kind of assurances do you Feel like you have that going forward and, you know, past this Trump administration, it won't be American boots on the ground defending that border.
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Donald Trump
Well, you have my assurance, you know, I'm president and I'm just trying to stop people from being killed. Charlie, look, they're losing from five to 7,000 people a week.
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Clay Travis
So he's, he's pretty clear, from what I understand, Clay on, it's not going to be US Boots on. On the ground in Ukraine.
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Buck Sexton
Yes. But to be fair to Trump, I think Trump basically has all options on the table. And I think all those options on the table could include some variation of what is the security guarantee going to look like for the United States.
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Clay Travis
I'm passing his words here a little bit. He goes, you have my assurance, because the way the question is set up is obviously concerned about US Troops. He goes, you have my assurance. And I'm president. I'm just trying to stop people from being killed. I want it that. And that kind of leaves some open territory on that, actually. Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
And also, boots on the ground, what does that mean?
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Clay Travis
You have my assurance in response to that question. It's not as clear when I read through the transcript a second time and go, hold on a second.
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Buck Sexton
Well, not only that, I mean, boots on the ground doesn't mean you couldn't have airplanes taking off from a bordering country to provide some sort of aerial support. Right. I mean, what. We're not going to have boots on the ground, but what if we have 50 fighter jets in Poland that can be at the line of defense in six minutes? Right. I mean, they're not technically boots on the ground, but air support from Poland or any other country that would kind of surround there. So I think, Trump, it would be.
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Clay Travis
A turkey shoot of the Russian air force if us Actually decided that they were going to really dig in. I mean, they've got some advanced planes. Our stuff is way better.
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Buck Sexton
But so I think the phrasing that they chose there is very interesting. What I said yesterday was I think you could have a front line of Ukrainian troops. I think you could have a supportive peacekeeping line of European troops. And then what if the United States rings even more soldiers just off the perimeter outside of the territory of Ukraine, but where we could scramble as that third line of defense instantaneously in the event that we needed to. I think you're going to see a lot of play in the joint, so to speak about allowing Putin to potentially feel like he got a victory, allowing Ukraine to feel like they got a victory. And again, my concern is that Trump wants peace to such an extent. It's the exact opposite of all the criticism against him that he could agree to a deal that doesn't have a lot of teeth and sets us up for five years from now to be in the same position we're in now.
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Clay Travis
I would also, I would point out that Zelinsky and Putin sitting down, which he has said, clearly that that is in process and that's the next step. That's the next phase. You got to get them to at least agree roughly on what the territory swaps or territory lines would look like. The security guarantee could come after that. Right? I mean, this is, this is like a phased process of you need them to at least be able to say, okay, these would be the lines. The security guarantee is the enforcement mechanism for the lines. And so that, that I think is a conversation that can. Now, that doesn't mean that Putin obviously won't agree to the lines on the map if there's going to be a security guarantee that he finds too threatening or whatever. But I do think it's, it's one and then the other. I also want to point out that I checked just to be sure. RFK Jr. Is doing lunges in jeans, Clay.
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Buck Sexton
Even more psycho lunges. Even more psycho.
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Clay Travis
I mean, there's got to be chafing going on. Like lunges just.
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Buck Sexton
It makes me mad. It makes me actually feel uncomfortable to think about working out in jeans and a belt. Like, unless again, you're like on the construction crew and suddenly there's a challenge about how many burpees you can do, you know, like again, to be getting dressed to go to the gym. And that includes putting on. I think he's got boots on too.
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Clay Travis
Yes, yes. Yeah. No, he's dressed like he's on a construction site so that he can do burpees and push ups. Like, it's an unusual move from. From HHS secretary. All right, look, when a natural disaster strikes, will you be able to reach your loved ones? The answer is yes, if everybody has a rapid radio. These modern day walkie talkies work on a nationwide LTE network, so distance is not a problem. Rapid radios are a great backup to your cell phone. We've shared our own story here about how Carrie and I were able to stay in contact with our loved ones last year after Hurricane Helene when communication was really tough. But being able to stay in touch with families, they navigated through that storm, gave everyone a lot of comfort. With no monthly fees and pre programmed simplicity, Rapid radios keep you connected when everything else goes dark. Trusted, tested legit. Visit rapidradios.com that's rapidradios.com saving America one.
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Buck Sexton
All right, I'm fired up, and we got a lot of fun things to roll, but I'm watching this video of RFK Jr. In his big Timberland boots and his. And his jeans and his belt, and.
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Clay Travis
He'S throwing a ski park. You know, why not just. Why not just go all in?
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Buck Sexton
It's wild the number of you that are arguing with me. So I shared this video, and it's Pete HEGSETH, Defense Secretary, RFK Jr. They're trying to get people to work out more. And the challenge was 50 pull ups and a hundred pushups in five minutes. And I said, that is insanely difficult. And a ton of you are in the mentions. Like, that's not that hard unless you are a freak athlete. A hundred real pushups and 50 real pull ups in five minutes. I think one in 10,000 men can complete that challenge right now. Now maybe you're the 1 in 10,000.
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Clay Travis
I was with you until the 1 in 10, I think. I don't think it's 1 in 10,000. I don't think.
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Buck Sexton
I don't think it's.
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Clay Travis
What age range are we talking to? Because, I mean, you know, some of you are very harsh in the comments on us middle aged men. Clay and our middle aged men. Clay's gonna be 50 soon, for heaven's sakes. Like, we're not 25 anymore. Guys, you know, back off.
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Buck Sexton
I'm not talking about people that are in professional good shape. I'm talking about the average guy. The average guy probably weighs 220. What do you think the average weight in America is right now? 2:20.
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Clay Travis
In your 40s, are we. You have to adjust for age, right? Yeah. The average American male, I bet, weighs about 220 to 230@ in their 40s. That would be my.
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Buck Sexton
Most guys can rocket.
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Clay Travis
Rocket.
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Buck Sexton
Most guys cannot bench press their body weight. We had this discussion, like, not even close to being able to bench press their body.
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Clay Travis
This is where the. The pull ups becomes much tougher because That's a strength to. This is where people like your wife and my wife who are strong for their size makes a difference, right? When I was 40 pounds heavier, I could bench a lot more than I could bench right now actually. And that was only a year ago. But pull ups, definitely better at pull ups now than I was 40 pounds heavier. So this is what you got to take into account.
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Buck Sexton
Some of these incredible trained soldiers right now can do it. I think hardly anyone can do that. I don't, I don't know how many people listening to us right now could do it. That is really hard. I mean, you're a middle aged guy.
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Clay Travis
Post, post your photo, post your videos doing this challenge and then we'll put some good ones up on the website right now with the cord gal, by the way. This is because women, you know, push ups and, and pull ups, you know, they can get in on this too.
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Clay Travis
Safe welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. Want to take your calls and your talk backs and all that good stuff. So make sure you hit us up the talkback on the Iheart app. Download that I heart app. You gotta have it, gotta have it. And then you press the little microphone. When you go to the Clay NBOK page, you can send us talkback. We love our talkbacks. They're a lot of fun. And also per grock, which is now part of our producer Greg Ombudsman activities, according to the cdc, the average American man in his middle age is about 200 pounds. But clay, to be fair, the average height is 5:9. So I, the height was a little less than I remember, you know, than I had thought. So if you're 6ft tall, I'd say the average probably weight is more like 2:15, 2:20. But the average weight overall is 200 pound, man. Clay thinks that it is very impressive. He thinks it is a 1 in 10,000 shot for a guy in middle age to be able to do what? It's a hundred push ups and 50.
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Buck Sexton
50 pull ups in five minutes. And I mean, if you doubt me on this, just go. You made a good challenge. But I mean, I think these things are fun. Like, it's good to test yourself. It's good to challenge yourself. You and I like to try to do these things, but I don't like, I feel comfortable. I can do 100 push ups in five minutes, no issue, right? I think I could do 50 pull ups in five minutes, no issue. But to do both in five minutes, you have to be in crazy good shape. Crazy good. And look, I mean, the reality is you have to break it up in some way. So there's a transition time that is taking up some of your time as well. I think probably the way to do it would be to do sets of 10 or 20 push ups and then try to do five or 10 pull ups at a time. So you minimize the number of amount of time you're transitioning between the two different workouts. Because most people are not going to be able to do 100 straight push ups or 50 straight pull ups. So I think hardly anybody can do it. And a lot of people don't realize how difficult it is. And so pull out your phone at some point today, just don't injure yourselves. But at some point today, just pull out your phone and time yourself trying to do push ups. Most people can't even do 10 push ups right. Like the average man sadly cannot just do 10 push ups. So the idea that you're going to do 100 and you're not going to be getting worse. Here's a good workout. I do this workout most days now. I do 100 squats, I do 100 push ups and I do 100 sit ups in right around 12 minutes. It's easy. It is. I do sets of 10 and I mean that's a challenge time wise, but it doesn't take up very much time. It's great workout. It's all natural. You don't have to have any fancy attributes or biz, you know, bench press machines or anything else, just your body. 100, 100, 100 in about 12 minutes is a really good challenge. Get your heart rate up. But I love this. I like that they're, that they're putting challenges out there. But the number of people who are just like, this is not Hard. I just, I mean unless you are professionally in good shape, it is really hard to do. So the challenges out there. Gauntlet Throne. I bet hardly anybody in the Clay and Buck audience can do it right now.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, we'll. Oh, hardly anyone. No. We got a lot of meat eaters in this audience, man. We got. We got plenty.
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Buck Sexton
Even, even 50 pull ups. Real pull ups. There's some, there's some former.
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Clay Travis
There's some retired green berets and seals and rangers and you know, state troopers and firemen and they're like Clay. Travis, it is game.
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Buck Sexton
Seth is in really good shape. I think that's fair to say. For a 45 year old guy. Hegseth is in the top 10% best shape. I don't think anybody could argue that he couldn't do it.
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Clay Travis
Really.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. And RFK Jr couldn't do it. Now. RFK Jr is like 70 some odd years old. May. May have a little bit of a. Of a. I got something to throw.
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Clay Travis
In the mix here. We're going to get back to serious stuff in a second. Policy fixing DC crime. I promise. Because we may be rolling with the Secretary of Defense at some point. We've talked to him and his team about this.
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Buck Sexton
To be joined the press pool.
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Clay Travis
So officially along in some capacity on the road somewhere. Do you think you could be Pete in an arm wrestling match?
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Buck Sexton
I don't think so. I mean he's got pretty big guns.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, you know, you know, slouch there, Travis.
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Buck Sexton
I mean I just. I think Pete, Pete is like in really good shape. I think I could beat most Trump cabinet officials in an arm wrestling contest. I think Pete would get me. I think I could take Trump. I got an advantage age wise. RFK junior. I might demand a drug test because I think that guy is. He's got a little bit of a pet usage. He's got a guy, Barry Bonds going in his favor there.
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Clay Travis
CDC should study whatever RFK's drug test comes out as. That would be interesting. Or not. Cdc, you know, the NIH or whatever. Or not nih. Hhs. Whatever. He runs. Sorry, I keep forgetting what he runs. But yes, I think that. Man, I'm a little surprised. I thought you were going to say I was looking forward to this because I was obviously going to be on the pen, you know, the DOD plane videoing Clay and the Secretary of Defense arm wrestling to see who comes out champion. But another time I'll find another one. We're going to get you. We're going to get you in some kind of a Physical challenge here with.
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Buck Sexton
Some Besant's got no chance Lutnick those guys would I would reckon throws a mean punch. People said some people have said I got 20 years on Bessant. I think I would, I think I would wreck Bessant. Tulsi. Tulsi actually strong I think as being a man I should be able to out arm wrestle Tulsi kind of running through the Cabinet members Linda McMahon she has no hope her husband Vince another steroid guy would have some would have a good chance against me. I think even though he's almost 80.
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Clay Travis
I still think we're gonna get you and Pete. We'll have to do something we'll have to do like a pull up challenge or something with YouTube but all right back to back back to fixing the world. Stephen A. Smith who Clay is going to be having I keep feeling like I'm, I'm spoiling this but you have a debate with Stephen A. Smith set up in New York, right?
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Buck Sexton
Everyone knows this September, September 16 Stephen A. Smith and I are debating on every issue under the sun. Sports, politics, culture, whatever you want. I don't know the questions. We're doing at least an hour in New York City.
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Clay Travis
Here is Stephen A. Smith on the Ukraine war play 10 we ain't going.
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Stephen A. Smith
To act like he caused this. Now his Democrats in office. It was Biden in office when a full fledged war against Ukraine took place courtesy of Russia's instigation. No matter what they try to say to Trump, it was Russia that invaded Crimea and that was under the Obama administration. It was Clinton in office where you made a deal that disarmed the Ukraine and therefore weakened them leaving them dependent on the United States. And now here they are having to beg for support that they're old because of what we promised them. They as a nation we promised them this. You owe it to the Ukrainians. You absolutely do.
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Clay Travis
I while I may disagree with the decibel level, I think overall the analysis is correct there and it's important because right now there are all these people who are so opposed to Trump who just because this is where the focus is, they're trying to find some way to look at Trump as the problem when Trump is actually only either the solution or the guy trying to be the solution. And I think this is why he keep, he keeps saying this and it's not a minor point. Here's Trump. This is cut 6 that this really got going actually under Obama. Notice a pattern everybody. Democrat in office, Russia grabs stuff. Democrat in office, Russia gets more aggressive because they don't fear reprisal. This is cut six.
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Donald Trump
Well, the war really started over NATO and Crimea. They wanted Crimea back. That was given, not a shot fired by President Obama in perhaps the worst real estate deal I've ever seen. Crimea is the apple of Ukraine. I mean, it's so beautiful. And Obama gave it away. Nobody ever mentions that. If I ever did that, the fake news would be, they would be writing about me day and night for years. He gave it away. He demanded that they let it go. And Russia came in and took it, just took it like from a candy from a baby. And it was really Obama's, really. I mean that was pure and simple, Obama's fault.
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Clay Travis
It was Obama's fault. And Obama was a, was, was wimpy on not even being willing to give basic assistance to the Ukrainians to push back the initial Russian assault.
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Buck Sexton
Yes, and the Stephen A. Take is right. I just, it's hard for me to hear it with a straight face because it could also be at the same decibel, an argument about LeBron versus Jordan. So I do think that Trump parachuting in here to try to save the day, it's impossible to criticize him on this. I, I, I don't even know even the people who hate Trump yesterday at the White House, all of those European leaders, all working hard to try to solve this issue. And I do think it's worth pointing out how much really does Ukraine, Russia impact us in the United States. I mean really even in the price of oil and gas? Because we basically have winked, winked and nodded, nodded at India and China being able to take Russia's oil and gas so they're not driving up the price by buying it elsewhere. I would argue, again, I'm not talking about morally, I'm talking about just in terms of your mind, everybody out there listening to us today. Does Russia and Ukraine being in a war impact any of our lives at all? I would argue no.
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Clay Travis
No.
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Buck Sexton
Like on a significant level where it impacts any of our day to day existences at all? I would argue no. Trump is trying to solve this because morally he thinks that it is better for the world if there is not a war there, but it isn't really the United States fight. And so all of the criticism of Trump, to me, when you really start to look at everything that he's done, I think the reason the Democrats are flailing and don't really have a foundational belief system in place is because most of what Trump's doing is actually morally in the right. I, I I. I mean, honestly, um, and even looking at what's going on in D.C. which we're gonna dive into in the next hour, with some of the numbers that are coming out, the fact that Democrats have lined up, and we got some talking points that are just crazy, the fact that Democrats have basically lined up with Trump shouldn't try to decrease the violent crime rate in D.C. it's bonkers. And again, at second hour, we'll really dive into this. But imagine if it worked. Just imagine if sending a bunch of National Guard troops in and having a lot more support on the streets, if suddenly the violent crime rate plummets in D.C. really what it shows is it's not that difficult to address crime. It's just that the will to do it isn't there.
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Clay Travis
This is why the political consequences are so concerning to Democrats, because as we have seen with the border, as we've said many times, they chose to let 10 million people just scam the system and come into the country illegally. They chose to do that. It wasn't. Oh, we. It wasn't like a hurricane hit and nobody knew what was going on. And, oh, we couldn't have prepared for this. No, they chose to do it, and Trump chose to shut it down. What happens when it becomes too clear? It should already be clear. But this D.C. experiment could make it even more unavoidable as a conclusion that they have chosen to allow these cities, D.C. baltimore, south side of Chicago, St. Louis, New Orleans, go down the list. All these, all these completely Democrat controlled cities, let them have high crime rates, high murder rates. What does that mean about their ability to govern?
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Buck Sexton
Yes. And if it can be fixed, the Democrats are arguing, oh, it's racism, it's systemic, it's impossible, it's an intractable issue. What if it's actually very fixable and all it takes is marshaling resources in places where violent crime are at their highest. I saw a great stat buck. And again, I really have got a bunch of stats on this. DC Today has the same murder rate as New York City in 1990. That I think for you living in New York at that time, that was kind of the peak of New York's murder rate, when over 2,000 people, or whatever it was, were being killed a year in New York. That is D.C. today. So we are talking about D.C. having a crime rate that is the same level as New York at its worst. Before Giuliani came in and said, we're fixing this, we'll talk about it more. In the meantime, NFL football, it's back yes, they may still make some awful decisions about the messages that they have in the end zone. They need to take them out once and for all. But college football also back this weekend. We got a big game in Ireland going on between Kansas State and Iowa State. I think I got that right. You guys can blow me up if I'm wrong, but college football is going to be back. Big game in Ireland going on this weekend. Next weekend. I'm looking forward to this. I've never been to Florida State. I'm going to go watch Alabama play against Florida State. Looking forward to being down there for that game. Going to be all over the place. If you love college football and if you love the NFL like I do, Price Picks is available in 40 plus states. California, Texas, Florida, Georgia. My home state of Tennessee. Simple stats, easy policies. All you have to do is pick more or less. Download the Price Picks app today. Use my name Clay as the code and you'll get $50 instantly when you play. $5. That's code clay C L A Y on Price picks $50 instantly when you play $5. Win or lose 50 bucks just for playing just in time for the football season. Why not go sign up for Prize Picks today? Run your game must be present in certain states. Visit prizepix.com for restrictions and details. Pricepix.com Code Clay Patriots radio hosts a couple of regular guys, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Mary Kathryn Ham
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Carol Markowitz
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Mary Kathryn Ham
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Carol Markowitz
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Mary Kathryn Ham
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Carol Markowitz
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Carol Markowitz
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show We'll dive into some of the data on crime when we come back, including what I would say is a very surprising New York Times editorial that happened over the weekend. We'll get to a couple of your calls here in a moment. One bit of news that I think is a sign of America continuing to heal, and it might sound like a small thing, but it's symbolic in the world of sports. The pga, which pulled all golf events from Trump golf courses, is going back to Trump golf courses. Buck the Trump Doral Course, the Big Green Monster, is going to host a PGA golf event. And it might sound minor to some of you out there, but I do think this is emblematic of the culture shifting in real time in a Big Way. And much of it is happening in sports. Okay, a couple of calls, Gene in upstate New York. What you got for us, Gene?
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Caller Gene
I am up near Cooperstown, which I know you guys are kind of familiar with the area.
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Buck Sexton
Fabulous, fabulous place. I was there two years ago for my son's 12U baseball tournaments where the Baseball hall of Fame is beautiful in the summer. Thanks.
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Caller Gene
And wherever I travel here in New York, they think I live in an apartment house and then take a summer.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, right.
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Caller Gene
And I tell them there's more cows in the county I live in than there are people. Well, anyway, Russia, Ukraine, in my opinion, we know about Vladimir Putin. I don't think under any circumstances, anywhere in this universe would he want to see Donald Trump get a win on this. Would he want to increase Donald Trump's stature and decrease his stature? I think that's a big factor. I don't know if anybody has latched onto yet. And they talk about the Russian troops that are dying. If you look at Russia's history, and I know you guys are history buffs, they have no regard for their troops. They send their troops into battle like cannon fodder. They did it in World War II. Their generals just used tactics that allied generals would never use. And that's their history. And I'm sure that hasn't changed. But for Donald Trump to walk away with a Nobel Peace Prize, I think Putin will do anything for that not to happen on his back. And I think that could be a factor in these negotiations.
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Buck Sexton
It's interesting. Thank you for the call. He's right about Russian troops, cannon fodder. Reed, World War II Studies. What they did is flat out unbelievable. The men and material they were willing to lost. Heck, look at Napoleon and what he found out when he tried to conquer. Do you buy that? I think it's an interesting theory. Do you. Do you think Putin would not want Trump to win the Nobel Peace Prize, or do you think Putin cares?
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Clay Travis
I don't think. I don't think Putin cares.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
Why would Putin care that?
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Buck Sexton
He doesn't want Trump to get the shine, but I think if he sees it as strategically beneficial to himself, I don't think he particularly cares. Crime data, when we come back. Is the surge in D.C. working some numbers for you. Let's discuss.
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Mary Kathryn Ham
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