Hour 1 - Where is the Democrat Leadership?

Summary

Summary of "The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show" Episode: Hour 1 - Where is the Democrat Leadership?

Release Date: March 20, 2025

In the first hour of the March 20, 2025 episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve into the current state of Democratic leadership, the psychological well-being of specific demographics, economic forecasts, and the ongoing tussle with major corporations like Tesla. The conversation is peppered with sharp critiques of the Democratic Party's strategies and leadership efficacy, interspersed with notable quotes and timely observations.

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1. The State of Democratic Leadership

Chuck Schumer Under Scrutiny

A significant portion of the discussion centers around the leadership of Chuck Schumer within the Democratic Party. Travis and Sexton express skepticism about Schumer's effectiveness as the party's figurehead.

• Clay Travis ([04:48]): "They want to tell you what to do with everything and they control everything, even though they're imbeciles."

• Buck Sexton ([20:19]): "Senator, people don't have faith in the Democrats."

Internal Party Conflicts

The hosts argue that internal dissent within the Democratic Party, highlighted by figures like Nancy Pelosi and critiques from within, signal a weakening grip on coherent leadership.

• Clay Travis ([21:22]): "Chuck Schumer has laid out a strategy that could be something of an X factor... Schumer telling everybody he's a deal maker in the steam room."

Potential Leadership Void

Travis and Sexton speculate on the future of Democratic leadership, questioning whether Schumer can maintain his position or if newer, more dynamic leaders will emerge to challenge him.

• Buck Sexton ([27:04]): "Chuck Schumer's political career is over and I think they're trying to threaten him with, hey, AOC is going to run against you in the Democrat primary in New York State."

2. Psychological Well-being and Social Media Impact

Happiness Among College-Educated White Women

The hosts discuss alarming statistics regarding the happiness levels of college-educated white women, suggesting a correlation with the rise of social media.

• Buck Sexton ([00:58]): "White college educated women are the least happy of all of those groups... it's hard not to believe that all of this isn't directly connected to social media."

Decline in Overall Happiness

There is a broader analysis of the United States' declining happiness index, particularly among individuals under 30, attributing this trend to social media's pervasive influence.

• Buck Sexton ([02:19]): "The United States overall happiness index hit an all-time low and it's being driven by people under the age of 30."

3. Economic Forecasts and Corporate Conflicts

Trump's Recession Stance

Clay Travis addresses President Trump's dismissal of recession predictions, portraying his confidence in the economy as unwavering.

• Clay Travis ([02:19]): "Trump on the Recession that people are predicting. It is not a recession. He is not worried at all, which I am sure, is not a surprise to any of you."

Conflict with Tesla

The ongoing conflict between the administration and Tesla is highlighted, with Travis sharing personal anecdotes about considering purchasing a Tesla amidst political tensions.

• Clay Travis ([03:43]): "They're going after Elon and they're trying to hurt his company and they're celebrating and it is madness."

4. Taxation and Economic Burden on Americans

Critique of Tax Policies

Travis and Sexton vehemently criticize the current tax policies imposed by Democrats, emphasizing the disproportionate burden on the middle and lower classes.

• Buck Sexton ([05:17]): "I pay 40% of my income to the federal government... Most years now, 40%."

• Clay Travis ([06:50]): "The system we have is absolutely nuts."

Discussion on Fair Share and Tax Compliance

The hosts argue that a significant portion of the population does not pay federal income taxes, exacerbating the tax burden on those who do.

• Buck Sexton ([07:04]): "Income taxes are only paid by about 50% of the United States population."

5. Democrats' Judicial Strategies and Government Overreach

Judicial Coup and Government Bureaucracy

Travis criticizes the Democratic Party's reliance on the judiciary to push forward their agenda, labeling it a "judicial coup" aimed at stifling President Trump's initiatives.

• Clay Travis ([12:38]): "They are turning on Schumer now... they have to go all in on it."

Department of Education Shutdown

The potential shutdown of the Department of Education is discussed as part of the Democrats' attempts to reorganize governmental structures to their advantage.

• Clay Travis ([12:38]): "The Department of Education has nothing to do with educating your children. It's a holding pen for bureaucrats that get paid to do nothing."

6. Impact of COVID-19 on Youth

Long-term Effects on Education and Socialization

The hosts reflect on the detrimental effects of prolonged school closures during the COVID-19 pandemic, particularly on the developmental years of young individuals.

• Buck Sexton ([10:19]): "These kids shut down their schools... they never came back to school. You miss your junior year prom... they never returned."

• Clay Travis ([11:09]): "Those kids went home in many parts of our country in March of 2020, and they never came back. You miss your junior year prom, you miss your junior year spring sports season, you never returned."

7. Media and Public Perception

Media's Role in Shaping Narratives

Travis and Sexton critique how mainstream media misrepresents political figures and policies, contributing to public distrust in the Democratic Party.

• Buck Sexton ([25:40]): "The resistance is not coming from legacy media and it's not coming from any Democrat leader. It's almost entirely coming from judges."

8. Audience Engagement and Callers' Feedback

Listener Talkbacks

Throughout the episode, the hosts engage with listener feedback, showcasing a blend of humor and criticism towards both their audience and public figures.

• Clay Travis ([35:04]): "Junior, listen, Junior lived in New York... Don't you sass talk cobbler, young man."

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Conclusion

In this episode, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton provide a critical examination of Democratic leadership, highlighting perceived weaknesses within the party's hierarchy and strategies. They argue that the Democratic focus on judicial interventions and heavy taxation is alienating key demographics and burdening American taxpayers. Additionally, the hosts shed light on the psychological toll of social media on younger populations and critique the long-term societal impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic on youth development. The conversation is marked by a blend of political analysis, personal anecdotes, and listener interactions, offering a comprehensive overview of the current political and social landscape from their perspective.

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Note: Advertisements, promotional segments, and non-content sections from the transcript have been intentionally excluded from this summary to maintain focus on the core discussions and analyses presented by the hosts.

Transcript

[Clay Travis]

Welcome everybody. Thursday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show kicks off now and we've got a lot to break down with all of you. Our friends plural. There had to make sure I threw in plural. Our friends Julie Kelly and Ryan Graduski will be joining Julie in the second hour on the judicial coup that is still very much underway and a major challenge for the Trump agenda, but one I think that they are up to the task of tackling. And then Ryan Graduski on some of the numbers, including Clay, that discussion yesterday that we had, I had a lot of people reaching out to me off air either about hearing us on the show talking about that or even just in my life who had seen those numbers. And we got to put some of these questions out there again, like college educated white women. Zelensky is the thing that they are the biggest outliers on how much they love Volodymyr Zelensky. There's some crazy ndei those go together, I think.

[Buck Sexton]

Also I saw today there's an it ties in with what we were talking about yesterday. I think because I said if we overlaid the different groups, I think what you would find is that white college educated women are the least happy of all of those groups, whether it's non college educated white men and women or men who went to college. Did you see this today, Buck? It's actually really kind of sad. The United States overall happiness index to the extent that they track this, hit a all time low and it's being driven by people under the age of 30. And I would bet that it's women under the age of 30 overwhelmingly who are unhappy. And I think it's hard not to believe at this point that all of this isn't directly connected to social media. I mean if you go look at the charts, overall mental health rates, now certainly Covid didn't help, but overall mental health rates just collapsed about 2014 when social media became prevalent in everybody's lives. And I think we're going to find out that this is like the nicotine or cigarettes of, of our generation where we allowed these phones and these social media apps, particularly for young people to really kind of lead us astray in terms of our life's pursuits. So there's an early big picture idea that I think ties in with yesterday.

[Clay Travis]

So we've also got some updates on the border. Tom Holman pointing out that they are rocking on all cylinders here to enforce the law. Comparing it to Biden, we'll give you those updates. Trump on the Recession that people are predicting. It is not a recession. He is not worried at all, which is, I'm sure, not a surprise to any of you. The war against Tesla, which we discussed a bit yesterday, there's more on that. It is just insane and destructive and wrong on every level. And I know yesterday I shared that I'm thinking about getting a Tesla. I'm trying to convince Kerry. The problem is we don't really use the car that we have that much. We still have a lease on it.

[Buck Sexton]

You have two parking spots or one is.

[Clay Travis]

This also spots one car. But we have a lot of guests who come over here, so we have friends that come visit. So it's nice to have a little guest spot. Anyway, thinking about getting a Tesla and people think, oh, Tesla's for rich. You can get a Tesla right now. I know I sound like a Tesla salesman. For about what? You can get a, like, reasonably equipped, you know, Toyota Corolla for a new Toyota Corolla. I mean it. You can get a Tesla for like three something a month, which is really low comparative, you know, compared to what you can see across the car marketplace. Cars have been very expensive recently anyway. We have that.

[Buck Sexton]

And used cars prices have been. It's not cheap to buy a car anywhere, to be frank.

[Clay Travis]

So I know people have their problems with the EVs and everything else. Okay, I get it. But the point is they're going after Elon and they're trying to hurt his company and they're celebrating and it's madness. But let's talk about something else for a second here or something that has gotten both of our attention on this week, and that is the Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer as a leader, I guess, of the Democrat Party still, you know, he's one of the gray hairs. He's been around for a long time, been in the game a long time. And you're starting to hear a little bit of the resentful. It reminds me of the Obama era. You didn't build that because Trump has completely cornered the narrative on robust capitalism winners building, creating wealth for the country and, you know, individual prosperity and all that stuff. Democrats are the party of, I don't know. And here is Chuck Schumer on the View complaining about Americans who want to keep more. This is 14. Keep more of their money.

[Chuck Schumer]

You know what their attitude is? I made my money all by myself. How dare your government take my money from me. I don't want to pay taxes or I built my company with my bare hands. How dare your government Tell me how I should treat my customers, my, the land and water that I own or my employees. They hate government. Government's a barrier to people, a barrier to stop them from doing things. They want to destroy it. We are not letting them do it. And we're united.

[Clay Travis]

They're just the left wing authoritarian party Clay. That's really what the Democrats have become. They want to tell you what to do with everything and they control everything, even though they're imbeciles.

[Buck Sexton]

I want Democrats to have to answer the question. And I know we're not very far away from April 15, which is not a very happy day for a lot of our listeners out there, but what is a fair share? Like I pay 40% of my income to the federal government. Most years now, 40%, boom. You know, I work until May and so I'm still working basically for the federal government. What would be a fair share? We have an insanely, an insanely aggressive tax policy for people who actually pay taxes. First of all, and very few people talk about this, income taxes are only paid by about 50% of the United States population. So first of all, right off the top over, I think it's 51% of people don't pay a single dollar in federal income tax. Now, payroll taxes is different, right? I'm talking about federal income taxes. And then a lot of you, you live in New York, you're listening to us right now. You live in California, you live in Illinois. Then you have to pay another 12 or 13% state income tax. And then that doesn't even get into what your property taxes are going to be or what your sales taxes are going to be. I mean, the government is taxing us like crazy.

[Clay Travis]

And I just, I haven't lived in New York in what, going on three years now, two and a half years. And they still want me paying taxes there somehow. It's crazy. Ok? The system we have is absolutely nuts.

[Buck Sexton]

I got taxed because Fox Sports is based in LA and I would travel a lot to LA to do television shows. And buck, I remember when they would take that money out of my paycheck by the day.

[Clay Travis]

It's by the work day. Same thing in New York City. Same thing, I think in Utah. If I remember correctly, when I've been to Salt Lake City in the past, I've had to pay like hundreds of dollars in income tax for the privilege.

[Buck Sexton]

Of being in Salt Lake. It's a beautiful place. It is lovely.

[Clay Travis]

But I just, Utah was, was grabbing, grabbing into my pocket there point.

[Buck Sexton]

We appreciate everybody who Listens in Salt Lake City, where I believe we're number one and number one consistently for three.

[Clay Travis]

Three plus years now. Thank you, Salt Lake City.

[Buck Sexton]

Great station. I, I will say, like, when you look at the, at, at, at these arguments, isn't it interesting? They never get pushed back. They say, eunice, you should pay your fair share. That's their line. What is the fair share? And, and I think a lot more people are looking around in the Doge era when we're recognizing how much money is wasted. And this conversation becomes even more paramount than it should be, which is it's important to all year round and all the time. But I think Elon has elevated it.

[Clay Travis]

There's also some big philosophical distinctions here that I think should be made. Clay, for example, as we have seen from the efforts of Elon and Doge, thank you, Trump, for putting them in the game to do this. Every dollar of government spending is somehow sacred to Democrats. This is what we've seen. Have they actually said on anything that Doge has done. Look at what Doge has been finding. Look at some of the ways that your money, you know, we talked about the transgender Muppet shows in Mongolia and all this stuff that's going on. Every dollar the government spends is both sacred and it's not enough. There always should be, you can never cut, and there always should be more. Meanwhile, the American people, whose hours, labor, creativity and effort are what is actually the economy. This is the thing that Democrats in the government don't really understand. It's not that the government creates the economy. The government, if it's operating well, should create the guideline, some of the guidelines, the rules of the road and enforcement mechanisms for contracts within the economy. But it is all of you listening who, who show up somewhere and build a good, provide a service, do something that is worthwhile to society, and you get money for that. That is the actual economy, the productive economy. And anybody within that who feels like the government, that every dollar is sacred and never, never isn't enough spending. If we say that something needs to change, that's terrible. This whole thinking needs to be flipped on its head because what, what are you really getting for your money? With so many of these things, what is really worthwhile? Remember, we have a state government, too. The fact that Trump's about to shut the Department of Education, right, that executive order is going to come down and people go, oh, no, education. The Department of Education has nothing to do with educating your children.

[Buck Sexton]

It.

[Clay Travis]

All it does is make it worse and create a holding pen for boring Bureaucrats that get paid to do nothing.

[Buck Sexton]

And we're wrong about everything. Covid. I was reading Buck yesterday to credit of the New York Times, which has suddenly realized, hey, we screwed up everything with COVID They had a story about Oakland area kids. Buck. And I've met a bunch of these kids as I've been traveling around and started to speak on some college campuses. These kids in the, in many parts of New York State and California and Illinois. But this, this particular kids in, in Oakland, Buck, they shut down their schools on like March, whatever it was, 15th of 2020. They never came back to school. If you were a junior, I don't know that we talk enough about how many kids out there. And I know some of you are listening to us right now. I remember we had a caller from Utah, a young woman who was voting for the first time, 18 year old, talking about how angry she and some of her classmates were.

[Clay Travis]

It's great call, good memory.

[Buck Sexton]

But I mean, it hit me because can you imagine if you're out there listening to us right now, think about all the things that happen to you when you're 16, 17 and 18 years old and how embedded in an integral fashion so much of your life experience happens. 16, 17, 18. You remember everybody out there to a large. You remember things when you're 16 better than something that happened when you're 36, 46 or 56, because all the years start to run together. It imprints you in an interesting way. Those kids went home in many parts of our country in March of 2020, and they never came back. You miss your junior year prom, you miss your junior year spring sports season, you never returned. Buck. The article in the New York Times talking about these kids came back at the end of May for graduation and they had to be six foot distant and they didn't even recognize each other because also think about how much you change in that year and a half. They just all went home and they never were in physical location together again. I just, I get angrier the more I think about it, even though it's been five years. And so I think for my. You tell me that I have to cut checks. It's one thing if I think the government's doing a great job. It's another thing if I'm still furious about what they did, in particular the Department of Education to keep our kids from being able to be in school.

[Clay Travis]

And they now are at the point where I think they're on the edge of seeing the Department of Education get officially shut down. There have already been cuts made. I know a judge is going to reverse it if he hasn't or she hasn't already, and they'll also reverse the shutdown. And the whole plan here is essentially to have the judicial coup in effect for really Trump's whole term, if they can get away with it, to stop him from doing what he should be able to do. But, yeah, the Department of Education, it employs around 4,200 people until the most recent round of cuts. When you look at what does it do, what does the Department of Education actually do? Everything that it does is either superfluous political or could be done by the states much more effectively and much more within the federalist system that we have. Right. Why should, if you, if you live in, if you live in Texas, why should some bureaucrats in D.C. be influencing the curriculum of your school in Texas?

[Buck Sexton]

Amen.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, because they have to make sure. Well, they have to make sure the test scores don't actually budge and if anything get worse over the last 40 years, because that's what's happened.

[Buck Sexton]

It.

[Clay Travis]

Failure within government needs to be treated like much more like failure within the private sector. Where you and I have been at places, Clay, where it's a fire sale and everyone's getting fired and it stinks and like, you know, but that is what happens. And this notion that the government is and always will be, not just existing as it is, but growing and getting more money, that is a change in the way that we are governed. That absolutely needs to happen. And look, we were just talking about the, the tax situation here. IRS is a pain, all right? I mean, I'm hoping that the IRS gets a nice dojo of, of itself going here, but the IRS is a rough agency to have to deal with. And you don't need me to remind you the IRS is the world's most powerful collection agency. You already know that. Don't take them on without having an expert by your side. We are in the peak of tax season here. In the weeks ahead, you need to call our friends at Rush Tax Resolution if you have any concerns or problems when it comes to your taxes. 877-755-7874. Every day you put it off, you're increasing the risk of the IRS seizing your assets, garnishing your paycheck, going after you and your business if you owe payroll taxes. I mean, heck, they can even revoke your passport. All the while, you're getting crushed with outrageous penalties and interest. You can get the relief you deserve. But you need to call Rush Tax Resolution now you want to do it before the IRS contacts you first, be proactive, mention our names, get a free IRS transcript investigation. Other firms charge up to $1,500. Rush tax resolution is the only company we trust and recommend. They'll only take your case if they know they can help you. 877-554-rush. That's 877-554-7874 or go to go online to rush taxresolution.com Making America Great Again.

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck, Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we are rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. The NCAA tournament is underway. I'm gonna do my best to pay attention. Buck, you might have to carry us sometimes because I want to make sure that I don't miss anything of the best two days of sports, in my opinion. The Thursday Friday shout out to all of the teachers out there that are rolling in the televisions, which Buck said never, ever happened for him. We also have cut to, I believe it is to play. Let's listen to that.

[Gayle King]

When you can't fall asleep, you wake.

[Clay Travis]

Up in the night. How do you go back to sleep?

[Donald Trump]

Well, the only thing I totally admired about sleepy Joe Biden is the following. He'd go to a beach, he'd lay down in a cot, barely able to get his feet through the sand. He'd lay down, and within minutes he's sleeping and you have cameras watching him. I could never do that. I would never be able to slip like that.

[Clay Travis]

That.

[Donald Trump]

That's about the only thing I think that was wonderful. He was a disaster. This man was a disaster. I don't sleep much. You don't sleep much. A lot of people that love what they're doing don't sleep much, I find. And so far it's been okay.

[Buck Sexton]

That's. I mean, Trump in every interview that he's doing. Buck, there's a couple of lines that are incredible. Can we pull. Did you see him talk? Did we play him talking about Hamilton? And I was. I can't remember if we played it or we talked about playing it. But also him talking about Cats, given our musical discussion, is unbelievably funny. If we can grab some of that audio.

[Clay Travis]

Well, he doesn't like Hamilton, as we know. I didn't know it was possible for me to have a higher opinion of Trump than I do. I thought we had already gone to 10 on the dial, but we went to 11 when he trashed Hamilton, basically. I mean, he was gentle about it, but we all know that he hates Hamilton Trump.

[Buck Sexton]

I was, I read it. So I haven't even heard the audio if we can find it. Trump talking about watching the musical Cats. I couldn't keep a straight face even reading it. We need to grab that audio. I think you guys will enjoy it. Trump, he's a big musical guy. I gotta be honest. He loves the 1980s musicals. We'll talk about that, we come back. In the meantime, we all can use more energy. You just heard Trump talking about Sleepy Joe Biden there and the only thing he envied was that Biden could immediately fall asleep when he was on the beach. Well, if you need a little bit more energy because maybe you fall asleep too early, maybe you're going to be up late too tonight watching the NCAA tournament. I know I am. And maybe you're going to have an early turn on Friday. Maybe you're going to be watching a lot of college basketball on Saturday. Sunday, maybe you're just going to be out chasing your kids or your grandkids around all over the place. Why not try out chalk? All Natural can replenish your testosterone level by up to 20% in just three months time. Again, it's all natural. Your body's natural source of energy if you're a man, is testosterone. US Based company run by a bunch of patriots that love the good old usa Use My name Clay for the best possible subscription discount for life. That's choq.com my name Clay for the massive discount in honor of the NCAA tournament.

[Clay Travis]

It's rough out there for Democrats as Trump continues to run up the scoreboard. You'll also notice even though the judicial coup is cutting some time off the clock and I'm sure it's, it's somewhat frustrating for the White House. They knew this was going to happen. They are prepared for this. They are moving rapidly and they keep notice. They don't stop and say, oh, well, this happened. So I guess that's just done now. They figure, well, what else can we do on that issue? How else can we move the ball downfield? The everything everywhere all at once strategy is still underway and it's really, really encouraging for those of us that want to see great things happen in the government. So we will address all of that. Some more of that here. Come up in a second. But who is the leader of the Democrat Party right now. I think that's important for everybody to start to think more about. And here is Gayle King of CBS calling out Chuck Schumer to his face over at CBS Play 16.

[Gayle King]

There are people in your own party. They're saying, look, it's time for you to go. They no longer trust your leadership. They want somebody else in there. What do you say about that?

[Chuck Schumer]

Here's what I said.

[Gayle King]

Your own party saying that's to go.

[Chuck Schumer]

Here's him saying, I'm the best leader for the Senate. We have a lot of lead. You know, when you don't have a president, there's not one leader of the party. There are lots of them. We have a lot of good people. But I am the best at keep winning Senate seats.

[Gayle King]

Senator, people don't have faith in the Democrats.

[Chuck Schumer]

Well, let me say this, and we're going to do this day in, day out on issues. Why are they doing tariffs and raising your cost $2,000? It's beginning to work. Why are they taking away Fannie and Freddie and raising your housing costs dramatically? It's beginning to work. His numbers have come down.

[Clay Travis]

That's it's not just Gail King, Clay, Nancy PELOSI, this is 17. Nancy Pelosi, who formerly really ruled the Democrat Party with an iron fist from, from her side of the aisle. She takes a shot at, at Schumer for caving to Trump. Play 17 about what comes next.

[Gayle King]

I myself don't give away anything for nothing. And I think that's what happened the other day. We could have, in my view perhaps gotten them to agree to a third way, which was a bipartisan CR for two weeks to four weeks in which we could have had bipartisan legislation to go forward.

[Clay Travis]

Clay, I just think this is blame shifting because every Democrat knows it's ugly out there right now.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, so first of all, I think we should give credit to Mike Johnson in the House of Representatives because it was their staying together and passing this CR that put Chuck Schumer and the Democrats in an untenable position. Schumer had two bad options once the House Republicans acted. And again, I give credit to the House Republicans because they created this situation where Democrats are turning on each other. Schumer could have shut down the government. If he shut down the government. His concern was that plays into the hands of Elon Musk and the people who want to reform government because then it's Schumer and the Democrats who are saying we're going to refuse to work with Trump. They shut it down, so. Or he could marshal. And I think it was ended up being 10 or 11 of the Senate Democrats to allow this thing to go through and just not fight this battle. Right now, neither of those are good options. I think what it reflects, again, one, the House of Representatives under Speaker Mike Johnson with this tiny minor minority of a. Of. Of an overall majority. Right. We only got a few seats. They stuck together and they got this done. But it just comes back to the question that you and I asked as soon as the election was over. Who is the face of the Democrat Party right now? Nancy Pelosi was actually a very strong, successful Democrat leader in the House, whatever you think about her politics, and clearly we don't agree with him, but she was really a very effective leader who would slap down people like AOC on the left who get a lot of attention but don't actually have much of a constituency. Nobody even knows who Hakeem Jeffries is. He isn't a very effective leader. He's not a particularly articulate spokesperson when it comes to being able to stand up to Trump. So he's not good. Chuck Schumer is old. He's out of touch. And buck. Here's the thing. I don't even think he dislikes Trump that much. You remember when they did the Al Smith dinner, and Schumer was up there on stage and he's 70. I mean, they're around the same age.

[Clay Travis]

They're both New York guys, Schumer. And Schumer knows all that. Oh, he's. He's a Hitler and it's all crap. He knows that's garbage. I don't. By the way, Schumer's not a dumb guy. He's not a particularly charismatic or honest guy, but he's not a dumb guy.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, I don't even think he's able to act on the same level as a Bernie Sanders or an Elizabeth Warren or certainly an AOC would be able to do, like, Trump is an existential threat to democracy. I just come back to what I thought was one of the great moments of Trump's 2024 campaign, was that Al Smith dinner when he got up there and he just. I mean, he let it rip. I mean, it was really funny. It circulated. Well, I think it helped him to a large extent with young male voters on social media, with. With how funny the jokes were, and Schumer just took it.

[Clay Travis]

There are people who believe that Trump ran because of being mocked.

[Buck Sexton]

That's right.

[Clay Travis]

Obama at that dinner. Wasn't it the out. Was it Al Smith or. Yeah, it was the Al Smith.

[Buck Sexton]

Right. It was actually the White House Correspondents Dinner.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, is the White House Correspondents Dinner? Gosh, I can't think so.

[Buck Sexton]

I think it. I think that's where Obama got up and made fun of him. Was the White House Correspondents Dinner, but.

[Clay Travis]

And made fun of him saying, you will never be president. Yeah, that's a tough one. That's a tough one, I gotta say.

[Buck Sexton]

And by the way, remember that Kamala didn't even show up for that Al Smith dinner. And I know it kind of gets snowed under because there's so many events and everybody was like, oh, she should have done the Joe Rogan show and she should have done the Al Smith Dinner. She did that awkward video she recorded with the SNL like impersonator, whatever thing, and it was awful. And they played it and everybody who had gone to the Al Smith dinner going all the way back, like 70 or 80 years or whatever. Even Hillary Clinton showed up. Trump showed up in 2020. Anyway, I thought Trump killed it there. And I think this is just the challenge that they have. The resistance is not coming from legacy media and it's not coming from any Democrat leader. It's almost entirely coming from judges. That's where the Resistance 2.0 is.

[Clay Travis]

I do need us to be be clear though, that Chuck Schumer has laid out a strategy that could be something of an X factor. Clay could be the secret weapon, which is that Chuck Schumer is going to start haranguing fellow Republicans from right next to them on the elliptical machine at the gym. So you're going to get sweaty. Schumer is going to start telling people where the deal making really happens is when Chuck is in that gym throwing up at least 20, 30 pounds on the bench press. 20 or 30, like it's nobody's business, man. He's just, just whipping those reps out. This is cut 15. Schumer telling everybody he's a deal maker in the steam room.

[Chuck Schumer]

I am hopeful that our Republican colleagues will resume working with us. And I talked to them. One of the places I told them to go in the gym, you know, when you're on that bike in your shorts, panting away next to a Republican, a lot of the inhibitions come off.

[Clay Travis]

What was that? Do you want to do. What is that?

[Buck Sexton]

I will say that, that there is some. Some truth to normal people behave normally outside of. Outside of work. But it's just a very funny line. And here's the problem. They have. Buck, can you think of somebody in the United States Senate, that would be a better minority leader for the Democrat Party than Chuck Schumer. This is the problem they're in.

[Clay Travis]

Well, well, see, the reason they're turning on Schumer now is that they know that the, you brought it up, the Warrens, the Sanders, the AOCs, the, that's a problem for them right now. They have to get back to being able to fool normal working class Americans from the, you know, not from the coast, from the middle of the country particularly, or from the suburbs of major cities that they aren't crazy, that the Democrats are not crazy. And so for that they look to the establishment. And right now the Democrat establishment politician in, in the, at the top of the list is Chuck Schumer. Right. Because Pelosi is no longer in the game the same way. So it's really Chuck Schumer and he just doesn't have it. I mean, I don't, I don't. He's great at fundraising. He's been, he's been around a long time, but he's not somebody that's going to be able to help them craft a message and, and get something going forward that will help them turn their fortunes around. So, but you know, they're looking at, at Chuck and they're saying, hey, you're the, you're the establishment guy of the dnc. What do you have for us? And Chuck's got nothing right now.

[Buck Sexton]

I was with our friend Senator Marsha Blackburn at dinner on Tuesday here in Nashville. And you know, she's one of the leaders of the nrc. If I didn't screw that up, which is helping to recruit candidates for 20, 26 buck. And she was just super excited about the quality of contender that Republicans are going to have. And I bring that up because you've had Democrats in New Hampshire, in Michigan and in Minnesota, sitting Democrat senators all announced they're retiring. And then you've got John Ossoff, who is in real trouble in Georgia, particularly if Brian Kemp, the governor runs. I think that he would wipe the floor with Ossoff in Georgia. They feel really good about the midterm in the Senate being able to add additional leaders. That's when I think the long knives might come out for Chuck Schumer. Because if Republicans take it to 55, 45 or 56 to, they got to do math, 44, then the Chuck Schumer era may well be coming to a close. And the other thing they're kind of hinting at Buck is that he's going to have opposition running. If he were to run again, I believe in 2028, which will be an election year, I think that's when Schumer is up. I don't think he's going to run again is an early prediction here. I think Chuck Schumer's political career is over and I think they're trying to threaten him with, hey, AOC is going to run against you in the Democrat primary in New York State. Remember, he didn't win by that much in 2022, only by like 10 points. It ended up way closer than I think a lot of people thought his Senate race was going to be.

[Clay Travis]

And what is the counter messaging that they offer right now to their base, to the Democrat, Democrat Party faithful for how they're going to change all of their fortunes? It is all on these resistance judges. It is. That's, that's also why you're seeing, I think, such a flagrant disregard for the, the norms from within the judiciary of, you know, you shouldn't just be overruling. I mean, we spoke about the numbers. The numbers are outrageous. How many times a federal judge has said, no, the President can't do that. No, the President can't do that. It's because it's all they've got. And they know that. Those judges know that and the media knows that, too, which is why they're going all out to try to defend this stuff to the point where they will defend the prerogative of the judge, for example, who tells the plane full of Venezuelan narco terrorists that they need to come back to America. Like, that's because they know that they have to back these judges. So even if the messaging around a specific judicial overreach is going to be problematic for them, because that's the only card they have to play. They have to go all in on it. So I, you know, even when they think they're winning on some of this stuff, Clay, I think they're losing, which is a rough place for them to be. But they've earned it. Remember this, no sympathy. The Democrats have earned this. They deserve this. The sadness that they feel whenever you start to feel like, wow, it must be rough for these Democrats these days, which I think probably none of you ever actually think that. But if you did have a moment where you're like, man, must be tough for the Democrats, just remember when they were cheering for people who were shouting at you to double mask outside in public, just remember that. And I think that will bring it all home for you. I think you'll be like, yeah, Their party should be in a state of annihilation. And this is fantastic to watch. And it's, I think this is why.

[Buck Sexton]

They'Re losing young people, Buck. I think young people are still angry and they look at the Democrat party and they blame them for the fact that their lives got shut down for two years.

[Clay Travis]

I totally agree. We'll take some calls here. Also, we have a lot of great talkbacks and we are going to get to those. We can add to that list by going to the Clay and buck page on iHeart app. The iHeart app and then iHeartradio and then you just use the little microphone. We love talkbacks. Protect yourself and your family with Sabre Security products. Sabre spelled S A B R E has been manufacturing products for more than 50 years, safeguarding hundreds of thousands of Americans. Both Clay and I have a lot of Sabre products in our homes and our wives are particularly big fans of them because they're easy to use, easy to understand and they give you non lethal options for home defense. Sometimes I'm not here. I'm a big two way guy. Carrie will be alone. She feels more comfortable carrying pepper spray when she's walking ginger or carrying the or having the the pepper launcher here in case someone starts banging on the door. I'm not around. She wants to stop the threat. Sabre gives you non lethal options plus a whole range of other things you've got to see. They've got amazing stuff in the personal security range. They've been doing this for decades. A family owned company. Clay and I know the founder and rather the CEO. His dad was the founder and he has all these products in his home too. He's a true believer. He uses them to defend his family. So you want to check out what Sabre has for you? I can't even name all the great home defense products but if you're looking for one to start with, check out their pepper launcher. This fires a little round projectile full of an irritant that can stop the threat. A six foot pepper cloud spray. Clay and I have trained with this just to see how it works in action. Trust me, this is a great non lethal way to protect yourself and your property and your family. Go to saberradio.com today S A B R E radio saberradio.com Save15 on that website or call 844-824-SAFE 844-824 safe sometimes.

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. Hope all of you are having a fantastic NCAA tournament Thursday. And we have got a bunch of talkbacks and you guys are killing it on the talkbacks. Buck, how do they do this again? They take the iHeartRadio app and you have the opportunity.

[Clay Travis]

You go to the Clay and Buck page and there's a little microphone, little red microphone. You just press that, you record, you send it into us. Easy, easy. It's fantastic. You can do this late at night if you listen to show on podcast and you can't call in live. So it's a great option.

[Buck Sexton]

Sometimes we don't get to all of them and it's fast. We read them all, though.

[Clay Travis]

We get the transcripts or the audio, we do hear them all.

[Buck Sexton]

So our team and you guys are killing it. So let's do some flashbacks. These are from Tuesday, Buck, that we didn't get to. That I meant to get to. So you remember Junior on Long island for people who forgot about Junior, I loved him. I loved his accent. He's got great taste. He sent us multiple talkbacks after you took a shot at him. Buck, here's Junior part one that we played earlier this week.

[Junior]

Hi, Clay. This is a Junior from Long Island. Buck, don't eat pickles on his burgers. He's eating pistachio cobbler garbage. Please take away another one of his man cards for the day. I don't think he deserves one. I'm.

[Clay Travis]

I don't even have any man cards left. Junior. I don't have any man.

[Buck Sexton]

You went after Junior. You called him out, said he lived on Long Island. He didn't. Well, anyway, Junior called, he went back at you. Buck, this is Junior, 22.0 HH Long Island. Junior, listen, Junior lived in New York.

[Junior]

City for 21 years, but it got full of commie pinkos and he moved out to Long island. And don't you sass talk cobbler, young man.

[Clay Travis]

I like that Junior speaks in third person. You know, we have more talkbacks that are third person.

[Buck Sexton]

Okay, quickly here. Kk this is Denver listener Jason. I can't believe this is real. What an awful human being he is.

[Clay Travis]

But listen, if desserts were, let's say, equivalent to the education system, PI would be maybe a college professor in physics, mathematics or something. While cobbler would be about a seventh grade gym teacher.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, my goodness. Outrageous. All right, last callback. JJ Phoenix listener. Craig, let him fire away.

[Chuck Schumer]

Eaters first against the wall.

[Clay Travis]

When the revolution comes, Peach cobbler now and forever.

[Buck Sexton]

Boom. I agree. You should get shot, Buck. That's how we should end the first hour. We'll keep having fun. Talk backs. Love you guys.

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