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Quick turn here. I'm going to talk when I come back about why I think Elon Musk allegation about Trump and the Epstein files has no basis whatsoever in reality. We will dive into it when we come back and trust me, there's no basis. Fired up about the Trump Musk blow up yesterday afternoon that happened. That obviously is the talk of the town. You can weigh in 800-282-2882 if you would like to weigh in on your thoughts on this ridiculousness. But I laid out why I anticipated that Musk would get upset at some point at the slow pace of government based on his history as a founder and as a CEO who is able to move fast and break things, which many people out there who found businesses have that mindset. I discovered that I am not a very good employee for long term process. I'm pretty good here because I have a fabulous boss, Julie Talbot, and she just says hey, you and Buck go have the best radio show possible. She doesn't micromanage us. She has our back. That's fabulous. Actually rare. A lot of you probably have had some good bosses. Some of you probably have had awful bosses. I think Musk wants to be the boss in everything. And I don't think that he is happy when he's not able to make decisions that he sees as in the best interest of his company. And I think he treated the United States government like a company that he was in charge of. The problem is there's a lot of stakeholders in the United States government, and Musk could not do for the United States government what he believed was necessary in order to create the best version of the US Government as he could do with the companies that he has founded now. And as a result, I think he just had a temper tantrum. I think he lashed out. Now, I also think there are elements of this, probably this is me psychoanalyzing where Musk is putting so much responsibility on himself that he probably isn't sleeping very much. He probably isn't eating consistently healthy meals. He is working all the time at all hours. And so what otherwise might have been a road bump, something that irritated him somewhat, built to the point where he felt compelled to lash out as extensively as he did on social media, which I believe Musk is using Twitter in many ways as his therapy, as his opportunity to vent and release rage that otherwise has built up inside him. I think Trump sometimes does that. But again, I think because Trump has built buildings, his entrepreneurial mindset is much different. In order to build something that is actually a physical structure, you can't be at the same kind. I don't think of dictator that Elon Musk has been for his companies, just based on the regulations, based on the unions, based on all of the different things that you have to go through to get approval to be able to do that. Now, all that in mind, I think Musk crossed the line when suddenly he said the reason the Epstein files haven't been released, and I'm paraphrasing, is because Trump is named in them. I don't believe this to be remotely true, and I just don't think it adds up. Logically. He might be named in him because Epstein lived in New York City and he knew everybody who's rich and famous in the entire city. Do you really believe that if Trump had done something that was considered to be criminal in nature by the United States in any way, that Democrats wouldn't have used that against Trump at any point in the last decade? It just doesn't add up. They've tried to bankrupt him, they've tried to imprison him for life, they've tried to kill him. They have done everything in their power to stop Trump from being able to be President of the United States. And you think they had a scarlet letter that connected Trump to Epstein and was criminal in nature based on what Trump did? And they just decided to argue that he mishandled classified documents. Instead of that, they had, pardon the pun, the ultimate trump card that would put Trump away forever, and they didn't use it. Instead, they manufactured the Steele dossier and claimed falsely that Trump was engaged in Russia collusion. And they had a smoking gun, a trump card, as it were, inside of the Epstein files for the last decade, that all they had to do to put Donald Trump in prison was pull out and play out of the deck. And you think they just decided, hey, we're not gonna do that. It doesn't add up. I think it's not true. And I think the sad reality is that much of the Epstein evidence, this is my opinion, is vanished. Okay. I think that Epstein was probably a intelligence agent. I think that he caught a lot of men. It's a high percentage of men that are interested in young, pretty girls and having access to young, pretty girls. And I think he used that sometimes to manipulate business relationships. Epstein did in his favor, and I think that's why he got the preferential treatment that he did. But there have been many men named, many of them, who basically did nothing, it appears, other than fly on Epstein's private jet or even engage in business transactions with him for their association to Epstein. And you're telling me that if Trump had substantial connections to Epstein, that they were hidden? And Democrats said, no, no, no, we're not going to focus on Trump and Epstein. Instead, we're going to argue that he kept classified documents at Mar A Lago. And we're going to argue that he got too favorable of loan treatments for the properties that he owned in New York and the big investment bank negotiations that he did. And also we're going to argue that he had sex with a porn star and paid her money and that somehow rigged the 2016 election and that he's buddies with Vladimir Putin. You'd think that Democrats drew the line at associating Trump with Epstein. I just don't think that makes sense. I think Elon knows that that is among the most savage accusations that he could make to a segment of the MAGA base that is obsessed with Epstein and keeps thinking, oh, we're going to get some amazing revelation from the Epstein files. And instead, when they've given new information about the Epstein related files, it's mostly blown up in the Trump administration's face. I mean, Pam Bondi had a bunch of people in for a White House meeting, gave them new information, and it basically was not that valuable. Now, look, I trust Dan Bongino. I trust Cash Patel. I think if they're at the FBI, if there is some sort of major revelation that still is out there about the Epstein files, I think they'll put it out. I just don't buy that it exists in a substantial way, and I certainly don't buy that somehow it implicates Trump. I just don't. I think that Elon knows that that's catnip and impossible to avoid, and among the most salacious accusations that he could make, and that's the reason that he went in that direction. I think that Trump has actually responded in the Elon fracas as the adult in the room, candidly, which is not always what you anticipate Trump doing, but I think he has a great deal of. Of. Of like, for. For Elon. And I'm gonna be honest with you. I think Trump sees Elon as childlike and a kid. And we have talked about this with you, Buck, and I have. I. Every time I've met Trump and I've interviewed Trump 11 times now. I am basically the same age as his kids. I'm telling you, Trump is almost 80 years old. I think he just had a 79th birthday. He sees people around my age as his kids. Trump has always. And as a grandfatherly and fatherly type figure, I think he sees Trump as a kid, thinks that there is a childlike glee in Ellen, which Trump likes and respects, but also recognizes that in pushing himself so far as Elon has, that there are consequences with that behavior. And I think Elon would even say it. You don't decide that you're better at sending rockets to the moon than NASA and that you're going to redesign the internal combustion engine. The effort and energy that that takes, there's consequences elsewhere. I think, again, Elon is an autistic genius. It allows him to focus in a way that regular humans cannot, but it also allows him to miss social cues that regular humans would not. And it is very rare in my experience that when someone has great talent in one particular arena, it is spread evenly everywhere. And this is kind of the way you think about from athletes, right? How often in your high school was the best athlete, also the best student, and also the best looking and also the kindest? Right. In baseball, they talk about five tool players because it's so rare to be excellent at everything. You don't have to be an expert in Silicon Valley geopolitics. To analyze Elon Musk, just go to your own high school. How often was the smartest person also the best athlete and also the kindest, the most honest, the most reliable? Usually extreme talents in any one particular area are not accompanied with extreme talents in other places, some as they are. Yeah, the prom king is also the kindest person on the planet and the greatest athlete, but usually that talent is not evenly distributed. Elon is off the charts, I think, when it comes to intelligence and building companies. As I said, I think he's the greatest capitalist who has ever lived in the history of capitalism. If you look at his accomplishments, I don't think that he's emotionally a savant. I think he still in many ways behaves in a childlike fashion. I think that's why he lashed out with the temper tantrum. I think Trump sees that. I think he wants to marshal the talents that Elon has in the direction of making the country better. And I actually think Trump has handled this again as the adult in the room. And I think Elon regrets his temper tantrum. Even by last evening, he was sharing Bill Ackman's comments like, hey, it's better for the country if we don't feud. This morning, he's been sharing again the big beautiful Bill. I'll talk a little bit about that where I think it's gone, but I think all of that is rooted together. And I think Elon is ultimately frustrated that he wasn't able to have the same level of success making the country's finances strong as he has been in making his own businesses and their finances strong. I'll take some of your calls. By the way, at the end of this hour, 800-282-2882. You can analyze this also, and I hope that Trump and Elon on some level can make up because I do think that Elon is a force for good, given his resources, given his purchase of Twitter, and just merely being open to the marketplace of ideas and seeing the best possible argument. I think and creating a business that is based on that is a profound gift that Elon has given to the country. And I hope that he can use those gifts going forward in an effective way with Trump and his administration. So that's my big take on what we saw yesterday and where I think it came from. If you purchased gold five years ago, smart investment price of gold, then just over $2,000 an ounce. Today, your gold now worth more than 30 $300. That is a 65 increase in value. 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You can have affordable health care for as low as $262 a month. Today visit ease for everyone.com/clay that's ease for everyone.com forward/clay paid for by Affordable Benefit Choices. Welcome back in Clay. Travis BUCK SEXTON SHOW Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Bunch of you want to weigh in and we're going to get some of your calls here in a moment. But first I want to tell you, storms maybe starting to take over everywhere, all over the country, certainly with it being summer, thunderstorms everywhere and that can lead to clogged gutters, costly damage. You can avoid all of that. Protect your home with Leaffilter. Right now you can save up to 30% off everything. Just go to leaffilter.com clay get started today. They'll clean out, realign, seal your gutters. They will get you hooked up. Schedule your free inspection 30 off@leaffilter.com Clay that's L E A F filter.com Clay see your representative for warranty details. Bunch of you want to weigh in? Let me go to your calls and get the absolute latest here. Anna in Raleigh, North Carolina, what you think? Hey Clay, 100% spot on guy. You nailed it. You just nailed it. The thing is, Trump came in in.

Lisa Booth (46:22)

2016 and he had to learn politics.

Clay Travis (46:25)

That's Elon. Elon has to learn how politics operate and this is how it operates.

Lisa Booth (46:31)

And he just needs to be patient.

Clay Travis (46:32)

With it and learn it. But America needs. Yep. Thank you for thank you for the call. I agree. I would love to have Elon's talents committed to the American government as much as he can. I think Elon committed those talents and feels like he didn't get the results that he does from capitalism when he commits his talents to the governments that he controls. And I think he's lashing out. I think he's frustrated. Brian in Kansas, what you got for us? Hey, Clay, I think there's a lot of similarities between Elon and then what Ross Perot would have faced had he gotten elected. And that was the reason I didn't vote for Ross Perot was because he would have gotten in there and he would have had no allies, wouldn't have had anything that he had on his infomercials. Get done. Thank you for the call. For those of you who remember Perot in 92 and 96, 92 in particular, he brought Bill Clinton into office. Perot's calling card was I'm a businessman and we need to run Washington more like a business. That is what Elon tried to do. The problem you run into is there's lots of people that don't understand basic business in Washington, D.C. and they aren't interested in actually fixing anything because they want to feed off the federal government. And inefficiency sometimes is the reason they make all their money. And I think that was incredibly frustrating to Elon. And I think what you saw yesterday was him lashing out. Carmen, Edgewater, Florida. Carmen, fire away. How are you doing?

Lisa Booth (48:09)

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Clay Travis (48:11)

The first one is I agree with you about the whole.

Lisa Booth (48:16)

Thing that Elon said about upstate.

Clay Travis (48:19)

Obviously that would have been the Democrats, you know, gold mine to have found out he was involved in something like that. Second thing is I think Elon is trying to get back in the good grace with the Democrats to try to get his Teslas back up again in business. And I think that's really one of the goals that he has in mind. Good deal. That's an interesting argument. It does put the Democrat Molotov cocktail throwers in a funny position. Right? Because what do they do now? They hate Trump more than they hate Elon so they can stop burning Tesla's down. We'll talk about that a little bit more. Biggest story rolling into the weekend. Thanks for hanging with us on Clay and Buck.

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