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Welcome in Thursday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. I don't know if Buck knows this, but the NFL is back and a lot of you are gonna be watching. To a lot of you watched the Texas and Ohio State game. Buck, I don't know if this is a good or bad thing for you. But football is setting all time record ratings, the likes of which have never been seen before. And I've got a theory on what it represents. And it ties in with another fun story that I thought we could jump into here. And it ties in with the cultural pendulum having swung in a massive direction back to sanity. And I think you have to give Donald Trump a lot of credit for this, but I think he is symptomatic of where the country is moving. And I've got a bunch of of takes on this as the data comes out. Let me give you an idea of where we're headed. By the way, in the third hour, we've got a couple of fun guests for you. Katie Miller, she has got a brand new podcast. She is interviewing a lot of people. She was Elon Musk's top assistant in the White House. She is the wife of Stephen Miller, who many of you have heard on this program for a very long time, among the most influential advisors in the White House. Deputy Chief of Staff, I think is his official title beneath Susie Wiles. She is going to be on with us in the third hour to talk about some of these cultural trends. 2:30, part of the Clay and Buck podcast network, Dr. Nicole Sapphire. Uh, many of you obviously see her on Fox News on a regular basis as well. She will join us. So that is all come in the third hour. But this morning, Buck, as I was getting ready for the show, as I was walking my fifth grader to school, as I do most mornings, I the stock market opened. I looked down at my phone. I knew it was going to be a big pop out of the gate. But American Eagle stock, for those of you who saw the Sydney Sweeney advertisements and just said, you know what? I think a pretty girl in jeans and a company that is not apologizing for it is likely to do well. Last night, American Eagle said their Sydney Sweeney ad campaign is so successful that they are now increasing their earnings expectations and their profit expectations. And the stock as I speak to you all today is up 32 and a half percent. Today alone, the stock up four and a half dollars. So if you just heard us talking about this advertisement, if you just saw them talking about it on FOX News and you thought to yourself, you know what? A pretty girl in jeans seems like a pretty good idea. And then as you saw all the controversy stirred up on the left, people saying, oh, this is eugenics, maybe we can go back and pull the ABC Good Morning America story where they put on the expert to say, oh, this is very troubling. This is calling a blonde hair blue eyed girl saying she has good genesis as a pun on J E A N S G E N E S. A clear double entendre there. If you thought this is all ridiculous, this is going to work. I give credit to American Eagle. They didn't run and hide. I know because my grandma, grandma of my kids, my mom took a picture of my son at back to school season standing in front of a Sydney Sweeney ad. I know that even grandmas were aware of this ad campaign. And maybe some of you out there, you bought your kids and your grandkids American Eagle gear just to make a statement on this buck. I do think that this is a sign of the culture shift having occurred in a big way. I think the popularity of football going through the roof, ratings wise. I think it's directly connected to this. Pretty girls, sports. It's all coming back together again. It never left popularity. But they wanted to tell us that fat androgynous model is going to sell lingerie. Guess what? America's not crazy. People like football, they like pretty girls. And my goodness, you could have made a lot of money by betting on both.

Buck Sexton (7:01)

Well, I want to find out what the next company is that plans to just do an old school, all Americana good feeling ad. I mean, this seems like a, you know, Clay, as you know, we've talked about marketing execs. Madison Avenue ad execs are among the most woke as a profession. Most woke individuals you'll find anywhere. I mean they're really up there with like Broadway choreographers in terms of their politics and they are living in some other planet. And I think because of America's overall prosperity, the, the dominance of many American companies, they've been able to get away with their ideological decisions, ideologically based decisions instead of what's based for the company for a long time. That perhaps is in the early stages of changing. We shall see. I will say I haven't seen a change in the advertising kind of companies, I should say the kind of companies advertising and conservative media haven't seen that happen yet. We were hearing, you know, early rumbles that this may go on. And now I think there's a little more of a wait and see. Trump's first year, let's see if he stays focused and stays on it. But I, I think that consumers and the American people need to continue to push. And that just means be vocal about your preferences and put your dollars where your heart is. Actually make decisions based upon where, where companies align with your values. And in some cases it's just fun and liking America and wanting to sell a good product that that's, that can align with your values. It doesn't have to be, you know, everything is draped in an American flag and talks about defeating the communists, although that's fine too. But just here trying to use the old, the oldest trick in the marketing book. A beautiful woman selling a product to people that they will like. It turns out that still works if you're willing to do it. It certainly works better than a 300 pound, androgynous purple hair, earplugged, you know, whatever we're dealing with. It's crazy.

Clay Travis (9:02)

I do think that the retreat that you saw from Cracker Barrel and this is where the impact of Bud Light really comes in. Because I've heard so many people out there, they get sometimes upset when we talk about culture. Not just on this program, but on all programs. And they're like, tell me more about the tax plan for small businesses. And I'm like, okay, yeah, I mean, I'm in favor of lower taxes, all these things, but culture is how you win. I'm sorry, Culture, culture, culture. The older I get the. In all facets, your company's culture is how you win your team, both as a actual athletic team and just the team around you. Your family culture is how you win. Culture, culture, culture. And you have to win culture. And what I am seeing right now is Buck's point. I told you guys this about fanduel yesterday and I got a lot of reaction to it. I don't think most people outside of media understand that the advertising agencies are the wokest part of American life and they are the bottleneck. And that is putting all this ridiculousness, I would argue a lot of it is filth out into the larger cultural arena because they control so much of the access to the marketplace. And they were the ones pushing all this androgynous models, all this, hey, being 350 pounds, that's how we should sell athletic gear. Hey, let's put an actual man in a Nike sports bra. And let's say, hey girls, go buy Nike sports bras to work out in. I mean, these are the ads that they were putting in. They're the reason Bud Light put this trans influencer on a can in the first place. We have to destroy them. We have to destroy them and understand there's a lot of cowardice out there. But that's how you win culture. That is how you go back to some form of normalcy in American life.

Buck Sexton (11:09)

And I think that it's incumbent upon everybody to remember this as they're making their decisions. And, you know, we talk about Crockett Coffee here on the show and how we're already. You know, some of you listen to Joe Pags. Joe Pags is selling Crockett Coffee, and Ben Ferguson is selling Crockett Coffee. You know, we're putting money into the broader conservative media economy because Clay and I remember what it was like. I remember in the early days, sponsors that would come on, you have the same thing. Sponsors that would stand with you. They felt like family. And that's one of the reasons why we're so attached to many of our longtime sponsors here on this show, because they're with us shoulder to shoulder. Yeah, they're trying to offer up great products to all of you, but they make a. Be very clear about this. And I don't. I don't ever want to make it feel like this is something we don't talk about. They make every sponsor on this and other conservative programs out there, they make a decision to stand with you, all of you and your values, because there are a lot of companies out there that we would make a ton of money for by just telling you about their great products. And they're like, I'm sorry, have you heard what Clay Travis says about trans guys playing on women's field hockey? Have you heard what Buck Sexton said about COVID lockdowns and Fauci? And I'm. I'm. That is the God's honest truth. That is exactly what goes on.

Clay Travis (12:26)

This is one where, strategically, the left understands how to win culture better. They created. And again, we're taking you into the weeds a little bit. But I think it's important for you guys to understand it. And certainly Rush lived through it, because some of the creation of these groups were designed to try to destroy Russia's show. As many of you will remember, the left created entire companies that they're. All they did was reach out to big brand advertisers and say, are you sure you want to be affiliated with this conservative, by the way, very broadly defined conservative. Because I did a sports talk show and I had FanDuel cancel on me over saying men can't be in women's sports. I mean, how many sports gamblers do you think in America believe that men should be able to compete in women's sports?

Buck Sexton (13:23)

I generally don't. I generally don't think the guys who are paying really close attention to which pony is going to come in first or which touchdown is going to be the game winner sitting there chopping their cigars like, you know what? We really need more futurist female T shirts.

Clay Travis (13:36)

And by the way, also beer companies. I mean, this is the Cracker Barrels decision writ large. And I think a lot of these companies are now going to start firing some of these marketing agencies, but they're the ones with the chokehold on culture. You need to see the Sydney Sweeney ad campaign work, because cowardice is common and most marketers are not particularly smart, and they follow whichever direction they're led. And if they're told put fat chicks into sports bras or put dudes with penises into sports bras to sell women's athletic gear, they'll do it because they're cowards. And that's what they were told.

Buck Sexton (14:14)

And you see in the case of the Cracker Barrel and Cracker Barrel situation, I just want to say this too, for I've been reading conservative media and, and I've, you know, doing all this stuff now since I was in high school. So we're going on 30, 30 years of seeing what the sponsors are seeing what the climate is and how advertisers and corporations treat anything that half the country, a little niche market known as half the country, fully endorses and supports. And so there is a sense of a. I don't know if it's a renaissance. It's certainly a turning of the tide. There is a sense that things now under this Trump administration are better than they have ever been in this regard. There's still a lot of work to be done, though, because it's. It's crazy. And you see a lot of these shows, Clay, after the Trump election, after Trump's election win, that have been canceled. A lot of these programs that have. They were being propped up by people and companies selling other stuff to you, right? So it's like the corporation is making money selling you toaster ovens or whatever. And then people who are in a media subsidiary that the corporation owns are able to write checks that are subsidized by the toaster ovens that you don't realize are actually paying the bills so that you can have Stephen Colbert be a not funny jerk on TV every night making $30 million a year while a staff is getting fired. That is the Lib Media business model. And once you understand that it is not free and open, fair choice. And once you understand how they've seated themselves top to bottom in these corporate institutions, how they've decided to use the levers of power and their advantage to their advantage. Clay, this has been worth. It's been worth presidential elections. I'm just going to say it. I mean, Democrats have been in office at different times because of this apparatus that we are outlining for you right now. So trust me, it matters.

Clay Travis (16:10)

And you have to win the culture wars. And this is why I think this is significant. And we're winning the culture wars, and we're winning young men, and we need to add on more steam. Young women want to look like Sydney Sweeney. Young men want to play football. They want to be bigger, stronger, faster than they are. They don't want to be failures. They don't want to be mediocrities. And this sameness, this cultural androgyny that is being sold by the left, we're lighting it on fire, but we need to pour on more fuel. We need to continue to stack wins. That's why this is important. This is how you stack multiple wins. And I do think we should celebrate and draw attention to companies that are making the right decisions, because other companies will emulate them. Because success is contagious. And once somebody has success, others will follow.

Buck Sexton (17:07)

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Buck Sexton (23:12)

Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We got a lot going on today and we want to make sure that you can share your thoughts with all of us. That means talk facts, calls, all that good stuff. 800282282 on the lines and we got some things to dive into. Mr. Clay, for example, the Trump administrator. Well, here's the thing. I've only got 30 seconds, so why don't you tell me what do you want to talk about next? Because I was about to dive into the crime stuff. But you, I know you, you're, you're fired up to talk about Sydney Sweeney for another four or five hours. So you tell me we should do.

Clay Travis (23:46)

The whole show just talking about how great Sydney Sweeney looks in those jeans. And remember, she's a Republican and a Trump voter, which she kind of owned. She's a Floridian, has a great place down in the Florida Keys. But Buck, I have got a winner for everybody out there on prize picks right now. The NFL is returning tonight. The Dallas Cowboys going against the Philadelphia Eagles. And here is the winner. All right, you go to prize picks dot com, you use my name, Clay, you get $50 automatically. You can play in California, you can play in Texas, you can play all over the place. All right, are you guys ready? CD Lamb, top receiver for the Dallas Cowboys tonight is going to have more than 70 and a half receiving yards. Saquon Barkley, top playmaker, I would argue for the Eagles. He's going to have more than one half either rushing or receiving td. Okay. And Josh Allen, more than one and a half passing touchdowns. Now, Josh Allen, best game of the weekend. I would argue probably going to be Bills against the Ravens. Okay, that's CD Lamb, more receiving yards, Josh Allen more on touchdowns and Saquon more on touchdowns, receiving or rushing. That pays off at four and a half to one. Prizepix.com code clay $50 when you sign up. Prizepix.com Code clay Welcome back in Clay. Travis, Buck Sex Austin Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we are rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. And we've got a ton of different things that you guys are reacting to. But I did want to play this because I think one of the aspects of Trump and his particular focus on crime is it actually is connecting with a lot of people out there that are having to deal with legitimate crime. And here is a grandmother of a Chicago crime victim speaking to Fox News about what she sees. This is A woman named Mrs. Gale, I believe is how they identify her. This was on Fox News saying, hey, bring them on. What do we have to lose? I would bet for you that this is how 90 plus percent of people that actually are living in crime ravaged neighborhoods feel. Listen to cut one.

Ms. Gail (26:19)

My name is Ms. Gail. My grandson is Gregory Wilson III. You got people still robbing, stealing, killing. Just the other day a five year old boy got killed, shot in the head. It's like it's never going to end. So if Mr. Trump want to bring these troops from, to Chicago, hey, bring them on. What we got to lose? You know what I'm saying? Put some fear and let them know that they here, they want, you know, protect the city of Chicago. We got elderly people afraid to ride the red line. You got kids can't go outside and play. You got women don't want to walk, walk at night alone.

Clay Travis (26:57)

Look, this is one of the things that I think is not getting enough attention. It's not going to shock you that most mainstream media is not focused on this. It's very easy for wealthy people who have gated communities and have private security and, or have their own community police that are rapidly responding to any issue that might arise. It's very easy for those people to say, hey, it's safe in this city. We don't need Trump, we don't need National Guard, we don't need more police. But the people that actually are in areas where crime takes place would overwhelmingly welcome being able to be more secure. And this is where I think the true lie of the Black Lives Matter protests are exposed. Because essentially what Karen Bass in LA and Brandon Johnson in Chicago and, and, and Governor Westmore of, of the state of Maryland are actually saying is black lives don't matter if it requires more police officers. And we know that those police officers and those National Guard troops save, and the people that they save save lives. And the people's lives that they save are overwhelmingly black, yet they don't want the help.

Buck Sexton (28:20)

Well, what you're seeing are a lot of people coming forward and being very loud about how they don't need more police, maybe, but they don't want more police. For the people who do need and want more police, this is a common thing, right? This is one of the, one of the tragic realities of this debate is that you have so many wealthy, influential people. I'm talking now on the politician and media side also. Are we going to talk about how Ilhan Omar is worth so much money now? Is this.

Clay Travis (28:54)

You and I were talking about this off air yesterday.

Buck Sexton (28:57)

I mean, not like right now, but can we just put a pit in that one? How are all these, how are all these politicians getting so rich out of nowhere? We don't really understand what's going on. I think that's worth, worth asking a little more about. But these people who are in politics and media and in general out there who are saying you don't need more, you don't need more police, you don't need more law enforcement help in these areas. They are unfortunately relegating. They are consigning others to continue to live in crime infested neighborhoods. Yes, this, this is a choice and this can be stopped. People who just want you to believe, and I know you all know this, but people who want you to believe that there have to be 500 to 600 murders a year in Chicago just because that's how it goes, are lying or they're idiots. It's just not true. It does not have to be that way. In fact, there have been times where the city of Chicago, if you went back far enough, it certainly had nowhere near that number of murders. So, Clay, I think that this is something that Republicans are going to continue to win on as an issue. I think they're going to continue to bring more people over to their side because this is a, this is a just reasonable or unreasonable thing. This isn't something that, as we've discussed, should fall along deeply partisan lines. Although it does fall along partisan lines. And I would just remind Everybody that the BLM 2.0 era, even when that was really going, when they would actually talk to people, when they would do polling in high crime neighborhoods, they might say things like, I want justice for George Floyd. But they'd also say, I think more cops would help. There's a lot of that. You know, if you look at the real data on this, people who live in high crime neighborhoods want less crime in those neighborhoods. And they have an understanding of, we need more cops to get this done. They don't want the cops to use excessive force. They don't want the cops. And that brings me to body cams for a second here, Clay, which, you know, I've been, I've been on this little kick online because it must be said, I remember there was all this talk, all this stuff about, oh my gosh, because, you know, even back in like the Occupy Wall street era, there were all these anti cop protests that were part of it. Racist murdering cops. They would have these banners up and all this stuff what body cameras show, whether it's just someone who's being drunk, disorderly and really entitled, you know. Do you know that I'm an assistant district attorney?

Lisa Booth (31:24)

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Buck Sexton (31:25)

Excuse me, sir. You know, the cop's like, yeah, I don't care. I don't care. You're not, you've been trespassed from a premises or somebody coming at an individual with a knife. I mean, I just saw this yesterday without body cameras. We all know this, the community, the Community organizers, whatever that means, would be saying that these were murders committed by cops.

Clay Travis (31:47)

Yes.

Buck Sexton (31:47)

And every time, every time there was a minority shot by a police officer, if we didn't have body cameras, if there was any daylight to tell everybody, you know, the national media, to tell everybody that this was a racist cop murdering somebody, we'd have to go through that whole national hand wringing, oh my gosh, racism. And we have talked about Jim Crow and the legacy of slavery and all these things. Well, with body cameras, what you see is cops. A lot of the cops, Clay, that I see in these incidents are far more patient than I would be as a cop. I'm saying like if I saw myself in their shoes, I would have gone to force probably quicker than they do. Which says a lot to me.

Clay Travis (32:28)

I mean, the most recent one that I was watching video of yesterday, a woman comes storming at a police officer with a, with a butcher knife. And yeah, I'm telling you, if these cameras didn't exist, I can think of five or six different cases where you watched it on camera and you said, man, that was a, you know, that cop is lucky to be alive. Because what people don't realize the camera actually shows you is. And you know this because you're a trained, you're a highly trained marksman, but the amount of time it takes for someone to get to you, even if they don't have a gun with a knife or with something that they could use in a violent way on you, is almost instantaneous. Right.

Buck Sexton (33:14)

This is where you get the 20 foot rule they teach law enforcement, they teach in the, in the intel agencies and military. If somebody's within 20ft and you have to come out of the, draw out of a holster, I know a lot of you are like, fuck, I can draw. Okay, fine. But the average person and the average copy who has a gun is not going to be able to get an aim shot off at somebody storming them from, you know, at an able bodied male within 20ft. If they have a knife, they're going to stab you. You might kill them, but they're going to stab you first.

Clay Travis (33:43)

Yeah. And also I think it shows because what did you hear a lot of, why don't they just shoot him in the leg instead? Which is one of the most ridiculous.

Buck Sexton (33:51)

When you're being in a lot of these body cameras, you see people get shot in the leg and they're still stabbing.

Clay Travis (33:56)

And also you see how hard it is when someone is running at you, trying to do ill to you to hit them at Period. Right. Like, I mean, you're reacting. Your body is like it is. I think it's putting people. Because the body cameras, not only are they showing what the officer sees, but they're putting people inside of the officer's body.

Buck Sexton (34:18)

Right.

Clay Travis (34:18)

Because effectively you then are, you know, everybody wants to play shooter video games, right? Like the fortnights of the world, there are a ton of them, the call of duties, that are super popular. When you are standing there in the officer's perspective, you. I think most people have the reaction, a lot of people do, Buck, that you just had of, man, this officer is actually way more conciliatory than I might well be in this situation.

Buck Sexton (34:45)

Well, this also goes to something. This is. When you think about this, and this is true of all these different law enforcement debates that happen about what is reasonable and also what the incentives are here. And we have a lot of cops who listen to this show, and we appreciate that. A lot of former cops listen to this show. All of them know that even in the best of circumstances, in terms of clarity, for a lethal use of force incident, there, it's. You've taken a human life. There's psychological trauma that comes along with that. You're gonna get put. There's gonna be an investigation of this even. I'm talking about the most clean shoot, so to speak, imaginable, like somebody running at you with a knife or someone pulling out a gum when you're saying, drop it, drop it, drop it, drop. You know, on video, they're still going to put you on leave. You've still taken a human life. There's a. There's a psychological toll from that. A lot of military guys know this. And, you know, the point is nobody wants to do that. No one's looking to do that in law enforcement except in the most extreme and unusual circumstances where you get some kind of a psychopath in there. Because there's like a. There's a. Basically a million cops in there, this country. So you're, you know, a million of anything. You're going to have a couple of lunatics. But in general, they're not trying to do anything other than get home to their families and do their jobs. And, you know, there's. There's the. There's that old joke, Clay. It's like I won't remember all of it. And some of you remember it, but it's, you know, heaven is like, the British are the cops and, you know, the. Or the British. Yeah. And the British are the cops. The Italians are the. Are the cooks The French or the. I forget what it is, but I always think about how people point to the British as having such good police. And I sit here, I'm like, actually given the amount of violence and stuff that Americans have that American cops have to go through, American cops are phenomenal.

Clay Travis (36:39)

Yeah, I agree. I mean, I think if you actually contemplate and look at this, there was, to be fair, a lot of police that were saying, hey, we don't really want body cams on us. Remember, it was it. But I think increasingly every cop out there is saying, yeah, we've got to have this. It's protected.

Buck Sexton (36:57)

I totally butchered this joke. So can I just remind. Heaven is where the cooks are French, the police are British, the mechanics are German, the lovers are Italian. That was one I couldn't remember. And everything is organized by the Swiss. And hell is where the cooks are British, the mechanics are French, and everything is organized by the Italians. Anyway, you get the idea.

Clay Travis (37:19)

Italy is an amazing country, but boy oh boy, is it a mess.

Buck Sexton (37:23)

Yeah, yeah, you don't want, you don't want to have to get your wi fi linked up in Italy. That's, that's like a six month operation from what I'm told.

Clay Travis (37:31)

And you don't want to have to ask a French person to help you on anything.

Buck Sexton (37:35)

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Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Thanks all for being here. Appreciate all of you. And we have some great things that are coming your way. Remember later on in the program, Katie Miller with the Katie Miller podcast. She's a Stephen Miller's wife. She's a former Trump administration official and we'll be talking to her about some great stuff going on. And Dr. Nicole Safire, she's a Fox News analyst, She's a doctor. She's of the Clay and Buck podcast network. And she will be talking to us about how Florida has gotten rid of vaccine requirements in schools. Clay. Very interesting. And there's a lot of back and forth with RFK Jr going on today on Capitol Hill. Who's the guy from Colorado who's like, okay, you better not do that, sir. What's his name, the senator? Bennett.

Clay Travis (43:41)

Bennett.

Buck Sexton (43:42)

Senator Bennett. He's like, RFK Jr. You, sir, bad for health. You know, he's not exactly inspiring people to feel like the people making decisions for them are in their best interest when it comes to health, that's for sure. I would say RFK Jr. I think he kind of enjoys the. Enjoys the scrum, if you will. I think he enjoys the throwdown over this stuff with some of these bureaucrats, because the bureaucratic health establishment post Covid deserves all the. All the rib shots it can get.

Clay Travis (44:13)

Let me hit you here as we're finishing up the hour. Buck, you. I got. I got the ultimate donnybrook that I think will break out among this listenership. Uh, maybe I'm wrong. The Trump administration is discussing, according to our friend Mary Margaret Olahan, who we had on the show, Daily Wire, White House reporter does a really good job. They're discussing barring anyone who is trans from being able to purchase guns, saying that they are not mentally stable enough in their health to be basically redlining them as a baseline. This is according to Mary Margaret's reporting. Justice Department. Let me read it. Justice Department is deliberating banning guns for transgender people as part of a range of options to block mentally unstable individuals from committing acts of violence. Senior DOJ official quoted by Olahan says, we're not playing semantics with words like dysphoria. We're talking about trannies, and we don't think they should have guns. I mean, that's pretty. I mean, this. I mean, I'm reading directly from Mary Margaret Olahan's reporting here. This demand.

Buck Sexton (45:39)

This is the argument. And, you know, we had Trey Gowdy on, and he made this argument. They demand that we do something. We do something. Well, you want to address mental health. There's a mental health concern. That's. There's a reality here. There is a mental health concern. You know, you're not allowed to buy a gun. People don't know this. You're not allowed to buy a gun. If you're addicted to any illegal substance, you are federally prohibited.

Clay Travis (46:01)

Well, that's federal crime. That's the charge they brought against Hunter.

Buck Sexton (46:05)

Right. But I'm saying, you know, that there are barriers to buying guns based upon your status.

Clay Travis (46:14)

You know, this is why I said a donnybrook could break out, because I can see both sides. I mean, I'm working through this report in real time for Mary Margaret, because I can see, on the one hand, the Second Amendment absolutist saying, well, this opens the door to what is a mental illness. On the other hand, I think a lot of you also are saying, well, there is a high rate of trans violence. Two different schools have been shot up now by people on trans medications. Are people who are arguing they're a different gender than they actually are mentally stable enough to be able to buy guns. And by the way, I think it actually puts Democrats in a real quandary to your point, Buck, because their argument is for more guns restrictions, but they also believe trans people are the gender they claim. This is an interesting one. We'll talk a little bit more about it.

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