Hour 1 - You Can't Deny Success

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 1 - You Can't Deny Success
Date: October 14, 2025
Hosts: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton (iHeartPodcasts)

Overview

This episode centers on former President Donald Trump’s recent high-profile diplomatic achievements—namely, brokering a Gaza peace deal and returning hostages—which have forced even his traditional critics in the left-wing media and political establishment to publicly acknowledge his success. Clay and Buck unpack how the magnitude of this accomplishment has led to rare bipartisan praise, examine the reactions (sometimes grudging) from prominent media voices, explore the possible influence on public opinion, especially among Jewish Americans, and discuss tangential political dynamics, from media hypocrisy to internal Democratic party tensions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump's "Superhuman" 36 Hours

• [00:04-03:48] Buck marvels at Trump’s whirlwind international itinerary: flying to Israel, meeting with leaders, giving an address to the Knesset, brokering a historic peace deal in Gaza, then flying to Egypt and back to the U.S. for a public ceremony—all in 36 hours.
  • “For a 79 year old President who has to be at the top of his game...We're talking about superhuman, extraordinarily unbelievable levels of mental focus and energy.” – Buck Sexton (02:19)
  • Contrasted with Biden’s alleged limited schedule and lack of vigor.

2. Media’s Reluctant Praise for Trump

• [03:48-07:37] Clay notes how even the mainstream, typically anti-Trump media is now forced to "package" this as a success, albeit reluctantly.

  • Buck cues up a montage of figures like Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel, and Joe Scarborough, alongside Democrat politicians and commentators, openly recognizing Trump’s achievement.

  • Notable Quote:
    “You cannot ever deny success. You just have to give your respect, even if it's not your thing, have the humility to give it up for enormous success on any level. ... I can't deny the success.”
    — Left-leaning commentator (audio clip, [05:11])

  • Media Montage (07:04-07:42):

    • Joe Scarborough: “This is an incredible accomplishment and incredible moment.”
    • Even late-night comedians like Colbert and Kimmel, with their trademark snark, admit Trump deserves credit.

3. Historical Significance of the Gaza Deal

• [10:33-12:38] Buck and Clay stress the deal’s unprecedented scope.
  • Clay: “There’s never been anything like this in Mideast peace negotiations involving Hamas, involving the future of the state of Israel.” ([10:33])
  • Buck: Trump succeeded more on Mideast peace than presidents from Carter through Biden.
  • They critique media attempts to frame released Palestinian prisoners as moral equivalents to hostages, pushing back on this narrative.

4. Does the Achievement Move Public Opinion?

• [12:38-14:21] Buck raises whether the news resonates beyond engaged political circles.
  • Clay doubts it affects the average American’s day-to-day, but notes it deeply impacts segments like Jewish Americans and those with ties to the region.
  • “This is a big news story more than it is a big Main Street story.” – Clay Travis ([14:17])

5. Speculation on Further Trump-Led Peace Deals

• [14:21-15:14] With Ukraine’s President Zelensky heading to the White House, hosts joke about what would happen if Trump brokered peace between Russia and Ukraine. They riff on “total meltdown” scenarios for MSNBC.

6. Media Bets and Accountability

• [18:05-19:25] The hosts play a clip of Alyssa Farah from The View promising to wear a MAGA hat if Trump succeeds in freeing Israeli hostages.
  • Hosts press for her to “pay up” and hold media accountable for their public bets and claims.

7. Arab World’s Role and the Broader Diplomatic Context

• [21:31-23:13] Clay and Buck highlight the underreported pressure from Arab states, including Qatar, Turkey, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia, on Hamas to accept the deal.
  • Buck: “It was those Arab countries leaning on the Hamas leadership ... that has not been talked about enough.” ([22:09])

8. Jewish American Political Realignment?

• [26:42-32:09] The hosts debate if Trump’s actions will shift Jewish American votes.
  • Clay breaks down the political leanings within the Jewish community, differentiating between observant and secular Jews, and notes that despite the events, Jewish voting patterns remain mostly unchanged.
  • Discuss nuances and poll data indicating minimal movement in overall Jewish support toward Trump.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Buck Sexton on Trump’s stamina and accomplishment
  “We're talking about superhuman, extraordinarily unbelievable levels of mental focus and energy to be able to put all this together. For anyone...” ([02:19])

• Media’s reluctant admiration
  “I can't deny the success.”
  – Left-leaning commentator (audio clip, [05:11])
  “It was so, so powerful and unbelievably emotional.”
  – Clay Travis ([07:27])

• Stephen Colbert jokes while acknowledging Trump
  “Credit where credit is due. Donald Trump did something good. Are we still canceled? You sure?” ([09:06])

• Jimmy Kimmel’s begrudging praise
  “He finally did something positive today, and I want to give him credit for it ... Trump deserves some of the praise for that. ... good work on that one, President Trump. Now, maybe you cannot invade Portland. Just an idea.” ([09:23])

• On U.S. Jewish voters
  “We do great with Jews who practice Judaism... it is the secular liberal, Jewish contingent [that doesn’t].” – Clay Travis ([31:37])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Trump’s 36-Hour Foreign Policy Blitz: [00:04-03:48]
• Mainstream Media Forced to Praise Trump: [03:48-10:08]
• Montage of Democratic/Media Credit: [07:02-09:19]
• Broader Significance of Gaza Deal: [10:33-12:38]
• Will This Shift Public Opinion?: [12:38-14:21]
• If Trump Does It Again (Russia/Ukraine Peace): [14:21-15:14]
• Alyssa Farah’s MAGA Hat Bet: [18:05-19:25]
• Arab States’ Role in Peace Deal: [21:29-23:13]
• Jewish American Voting Dynamics: [26:42-32:09]

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Additional Segments

• Media and Marriages:
  Lighthearted discussion about Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski’s on-air dynamics ([23:53-25:57])
• Liberal Podcast Chatter:
  Teasers for upcoming segments about Kamala Harris vs. Gavin Newsom, liberal podcast discussions ([36:37-40:23])

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Tone & Style

The episode keeps a lively and conversational tone, mixing pointed political analysis with humor and ribbing—often at the expense of media personalities and the Democratic Party. Clay and Buck encourage listeners to be appreciative of historically significant political wins, even as they remain skeptical that entrenched media or partisan audiences will fully acknowledge them.

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Conclusion

This episode offers a robust defense and celebration of Trump’s recent diplomatic achievements while underscoring the rare moment of bipartisan public acclaim. Clay and Buck use these developments to explore larger trends: media credibility, changing political allegiances, and the potential for further world-shaping events. Their candid, conversational style makes for a spirited journey through the news of the week, punctuated by notable media soundbites and moments of cross-party recognition.

Transcript

[iHeart Radio Announcer]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back in Buck. It is a day of reflection over Trump's remarkable accomplishments alongside of his administration. And I never would have believed the day. But as I look down at the roster, we have praise for Donald Trump from Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel, Joe Scarborough and an incredible montage our team put together of all different sorts of Democrats singing Donald Trump's praises. I think this is frankly remarkable and I think it deserves all of the public acclamation. We will run through some of those in a moment, but I just wanted to hit you with this, Buck. In the past 24 hours, listen to Donald Trump's schedule. Remember we went from my cousin, my cousin, I was going to say my cousin Vinnie. We went from Weekend at Bernie's. Apologies to my cousin Vinnie. Great film. Weekend at Bernie's, presidency of Joe Biden. They tried to run Weekend at Bernie's too, where they would hide him. He could only do events from like 10 to 2, then they would hide him. If they ever did any press availabilities, they gave him note cards to call on members of the press with pre screened questions. Listen to what Trump has done just in the last 24 hours. He flew to Israel, spoke to the press there in Israel, met with Israeli leaders, spoke to the press again, met with families of the hostages, delivered an hour long speech to the Knesset, that is basically the Israeli Congress, did another interview, flew to Egypt, met with the President of Egypt, spoke to the press again, took photos and chatted individually with dozens of world leaders, signed the historic Gaza peace deal, delivered another speech, met privately with world leaders, flew back to the United States. He touched ground publicly walking across the grass of the South Lawn of the White House. I Believe Buck, at 3am One of the most extraordinary. 36 hours. He took off at 3pm, 36 hours before, went all the way to the Middle east, did all of those things, got back off the plane at 3am and today is celebrating and awarding to Charlie Kirk's widow Erica, the Presidential Medal of Freedom for another public event. For those of you who travel internationally, and I imagine a lot of you out there have done this at some point in time. It is, Buck, you just did this. You just flew to Taiwan and you just came back. Traveling internationally is one of the most draining things that you can do. Skipping across 12 hours of time zones, all these different things for anybody, no matter their age. For a 79 year old President who has to be at the top of his game, delivering one of the most consequential and I think, well delivered addresses of his entire political career. We're talking about superhuman, extraordinarily unbelievable levels of mental focus and energy to be able to put all this together. For anyone, whether you are the CEO of a company, whether you're working in construction, whether you're a 22 year old listening to us right now, that's an unbelievable 36 hours of accomplishment. And coming on the heels of Joe Biden, it is even more extraordinary. I think what a 36 hours President Trump just put together.

[Clay Travis]

It's been fun just watching all of the Trump adversary media having to find ways to package this for their audience. Overwhelmingly, they've taken the, you know, he's terrible on. They say a bunch of things and then they go. But I have to say, this is pretty darn good. And I don't think that there could be any more obvious, there could be no more clear endorsement of the massive victory here than even Trump's biggest detractors, at least in the media, are having to say, yeah, I think this is a pretty good one. Here's a, here's a great example. So, Clay, you'll remember when I did the Bill Maher show before this last election and there were a lot of things that were interesting about that. One is I was like, you guys are about to get absolutely smoked in this election. And the audience did not boo. I think they knew that things were not looking good for them at that point. It was, what, late September, I think before the election, so maybe about a month ago. And the other thing was I said to Bill Maher, I think this was on camera, but I definitely said it to him off camera. I said, you know that he's really not going to destroy the country and it's going to be fine. Right? I mean, you actually know that. And I swear he looked at me and he said, I don't know that. I don't know. I think he actually might destroy America. He seemed to truly believe that. Well, Clay, here he is. This is cut 3. Having to face reality. Play it.

[Left-leaning commentator (guest or clip)]

I always say this. You cannot ever deny success. You just have to give your respect, even if it's not your thing, have the humility to give it up for enormous success on any level. I agree. Trump, not my choice, didn't vote for him, but a lot of people did. And he's. I can't deny the success.

[Clay Travis]

I can't either.

[Left-leaning commentator (guest or clip)]

Yeah, and he's the President. And he's the president.

[Clay Travis]

That's, that's pretty much where any honest, left of center person in this country has to be right now, Clay. You can't deny the success, guys.

[Buck Sexton]

It's there.

[Clay Travis]

It's, it's in front of all of us.

[Buck Sexton]

If Joe Biden had gotten all of the hostages out of Gaza and delivered a sterling speech giving the virtues of freedom and American leadership and, and traveled and just run through that 36 hour stretch, he couldn't have done any of it. Let's be clear. And that's why you and me and most of you out there did not vote for Joe Biden in 2020. Kamala Harris could not have done any of this and she's 20 years younger than President Trump. But if they had, I would have come on and said, hey, you know what? This is a good result. As I give credit, Bill Clinton came out and said it. Let's play this. I mean, this is, Trump is so successful. Now you and I have. And we're going to sing Trump's praises because we think he's having the greatest presidency of the 21st century. I think we are in the midst. I hope some of you take the time to wake up and smile and be grateful for what we are all experiencing right now, because I think it's about as good as it gets. Here is a montage put together of Democrats and left wing media giving Trump credit for the Gaza deal. This is cut seven.

[Clay Travis]

This was very much a peacemaker speech.

[Buck Sexton]

It's a terrific day for the hostage families. It's a terrific day for President Trump, for our national interests. Do you give him credit for this?

[Clay Travis]

Certainly.

[Joe Scarborough]

I mean, this is an incredible accomplishment and incredible moment.

[Buck Sexton]

President Trump deserves a lot of credit.

[Clay Travis]

For bringing the parties together. He should get a lot of credit. I mean, this was his deal. He worked this out.

[Buck Sexton]

Listen, he got the deal across the finish line. There's no question.

[Clay Travis]

Things seem sort of possible now in a way that they didn't necessarily before. A better future ahead. That's what today represented. It was so, so powerful and unbelievably emotional.

[Buck Sexton]

We would not be here if it wasn't for Donald Trump. Okay, let me give you an idea of who was saying all of that. That's the Washington Post. David Ignatius, historian John Meacham, Representative Adam Smith, Democrat from Washington, former Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, Senator Mark Kelly, current Democrat from Arizona, Jim Scudo. I'm not sure how you pronounce his name. Shuto. I don't watch a lot.

[Clay Travis]

Also went to my high school like Fauci did. I know this because these guys get big, get big requests to come back and speak at Regis, but yours truly on the first or second largest radio platform, whatever, in America. Not a lot of love from the high school. Keep going.

[Buck Sexton]

MSNBC's David Noriega, Ted Deutsch, Democrat from Florida, and Arab Israeli negotiator Aaron David Miller. Also, Stephen Colbert even said. Cut nine. Donald Trump did something good. Had to make a joke about it. But Cut nine. Today, thanks to Trump's newly brokered ceasefire in Gaza, all living Israeli hostages and almost 2,000 Palestinian prisoners have been released. Okay, it's important. Credit where credit is due. Donald Trump did something good. Are we still canceled? You sure?

[Clay Travis]

I tried. I tried. All right.

[Buck Sexton]

Jimmy Kimmel even said good work. Now they got to make jokes on the backside, but they're actually giving President Trump credit. This is how successful Trump has suddenly become. He has united Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert in praise. Cut 8.

[Jimmy Kimmel]

What a day for Donald Trump. You know what? He finally did something positive today, and I want to give him credit for it because I know he's not the type to take credit for himself. Trump was in Israel and Egypt today to celebrate a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas. All 20 Israeli hostages are home after 738 days. Almost 2,000 Palestinian prisoners and detainees have been released. And while we're only in the first phase of what will undoubtedly be a long and tricky process, the fact is the bombing has stopped, the hostages have been released, and Trump deserves some of the praise for that. And so I know it sounds crazy to say, but good work on that one. President Trump. Now, maybe you can not invade Portland. Just an idea.

[Buck Sexton]

Ok, like this is. I understand they got to slap him on the back and make a joke or whatever, but the fact that Colbert, Kimmel, CNN and MSNBC are all lining up for much of their day buck and having to say President Trump did a good job, I do wonder what their moron audiences are thinking here. You and I are not surprised this happened, but this is what we voted for. We were right.

[Clay Travis]

I would also add that they're limiting the praise to getting the hostages back. But the more comprehensive deal here, there's never been anything like this in Mideast peace negotiations involving Hamas, involving the future of the state of Israel. I mean, this, this is enormous as a framework for the Middle east going forward. And they're not saying that because, Clay, it's one thing to point out, okay, fine, he got the hostages back. We all have to admit that's good. I would also note, who was it? I couldn't, I can't remember. But somebody said 2,000 Palestinian prisoners. Those are detainees. They're terrorists.

[Buck Sexton]

The New York Times, a different the New York Times called it a hostage trade, as if the criminals that were under, you know, lock and key were the same as the hostages that were kidnapped.

[Clay Travis]

So I just want to note that on the one side you have people, you have civilians who were kidnapped at gunpoint for no reason other than the barbarism and hatred of Hamas. And on the other side you have people who were breaking the Geneva Convention in every way imaginable, fighting as a non established military, killing civilians and all of the things that you could point to anyway. But they are trying to limit this to the hostages coming back and they're not what they're not willing to say to their audience. Clay, even in these clips, for the most part, some of the more news people are alluding to this. Aaron David Miller is actually a sharp guy. I know him from years back and he knows the region well. There are people out there who are lifetime policy wonks who are saying that part of it is a huge breakthrough too. And that's something they won't say on Kimmel's show. They won't say that Donald Trump not only succeeded as president in getting these hostages back, but Clay, he has succeeded more on Mideast peace, then Obama, then Biden, then Bush, then Clinton, then Reagan, go back, then Carter, keep going back. That they will not say, let me.

[Buck Sexton]

Ask you this, and I don't know, I'm curious what your answer is. We can talk about it when we come back because we're coming up against a break. How much do you think the average American cares or is paying attention to what's going on right now in the Middle east least? In other words, does this move Donald Trump's approval rating in the United States in any kind of appreciable way or people like you and me and all of our listeners that are engaged on a day to day basis in the news are aware of this. But is this resonating with your average dad or mom sitting in a car line picking up kids at school? Like, is this something that matters?

[Clay Travis]

I really, I really don't think so. For the most part. I think for the, I think for the Jewish American community, especially because we had Carol Markowitz on yesterday, she has family in Israel. She has family that are in the idf. Right. So that is, is very noteworthy for, for people that feel a direct connection to what's going on over there. But day to day over here, this will be swept up in the broader news cycle very quickly and I think there's nothing wrong with leaving the diplomacy to the diplomat. Well, in this case, to Donald Trump, the diplomat in chief. And moving back to issues here on the home front. You know, we, that Trump has helped clean that mess up or bring that mess to an end. Let's get our focus back here at home. I mean, there's, there's no need for us to have a, have a split focus. I think that takes away from any of the initiatives and they're not the stuff with the, with Portland and Chicago and the border and trade deals with China. That's all still underway too. This is a big news story more than it is a big Main street story. I think that's fair.

[Buck Sexton]

Good analysis. Now we've got Zelensky coming to the White House on Friday. Within that construct, what is MSNBC and CNN going to say if Trump actually brings peace between Ukraine and Russia, too?

[Clay Travis]

Remember that scene in Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark when they opened?

[Buck Sexton]

The answer is going to be 100 for me, but yes, I'm not forgetting any of those scenes.

[Clay Travis]

It, it will, it will be like that at msnbc. If Trump ends the Russia Ukraine war. They will just melt in real. Like there won't be anything left. They will spontaneously combust. Total protonic reversal. I mean, it'll be a total. I don't know what they'll do over there. All right, we'll come back into this.

[Buck Sexton]

You say Raiders of the Lost Ark. Oh, yeah. When they look at the ark. Well, we have double. We have double. I was thinking when they drink from the chalice at the end and double the other one. Yeah, there's actually double ones.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Not only did Trump have a huge win yesterday, as did really, the whole Middle east and the world, the civilized world, but there are some people who have some bets that they made who should pay up. I would think one in particular over at the View, Ms. Alyssa Farah, formerly of the Trump White House, I might add. First term here, it turns out that she made a promise and I think she should be kept to that promise. Clay, listen to this. This is what you said on the air, I don't know, a couple of years ago.

[Alyssa Farah]

If he gets the Israeli hostages out, I promise I will wear a MAGA hat for one day on the show and say thank you for doing it. She'll knock it right off my head. But like, we have to be able to cheer for wins when they happen and then call out relentlessly the wrongdoing.

[Clay Travis]

Well, I gotta say, a deal is a deal. A promise is a promise. A bet is a bet. Like however you want to put this. I don't. Clay, if you or I made a promise to this audience about wearing a hat during the show, we're wearing that hat. So the view has to pay up here. Totally.

[Buck Sexton]

If I had said, if Joe Biden gets the hostages back, I'll wear a Biden hat.

[Clay Travis]

This was last December, to be clear.

[Buck Sexton]

But yeah, yeah, last December. She said it after Trump was elected but before he had taken office. This is a no brainer. A bet's a bet. She should. She's pay up. Like when Buck island went underwater, you even though you had to get a snorkel, you took me to a fancy dinner and we had a great stay.

[Clay Travis]

I did. True. I owe Jesse Kelly a Red Lobster outing. I have not forgotten.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

We talked about that a bit yesterday when you had to go do the interview, Clay, with, with the sports fellow.

[Buck Sexton]

Who was Lane Kiffin at Ole Miss. Thanks to everybody in Oxford who had me yesterday. But yes, when I ducked out, Lane.

[Clay Travis]

Kiffin among my favorites. But I, I talked about it somewhat because in particular I think the Turkish response on this too, the Turks have been very help pull the Hamas in a unhelpful way to the region for a long time. And even the Turks essentially said, you take this deal, you're on your own. Yeah, the Qatari said the same thing. The Egyptians said the same thing.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, this is what, this is.

[Clay Travis]

A big subtext of the story. Saudi.

[Buck Sexton]

The Saudis said the same thing. I do believe that there's a lot of focus on Trump's relationship with Netanyahu, deservedly so. It's a very positive one. But the degree to which they have also established really strong foundational relationships with everyone in the Arab world I think has been under discussed. And it was those Arab countries leaning on the Hamas leadership and basically saying, hey guys, we're over this. And that has not been talked about enough. I don't believe what you say. Okay, why does that matter, Clay? It would suggest that there may be an opportunity for lasting peace because many of these Arab countries are just fed up. It's hard to build businesses when you're worried that somebody's going to walk in with a suicide vest and blow up one of your properties. And I think the connection that Trump has made from a commerce capitalism builder perspective with the Arab countries is, has been greatly underanalyzed. But it was the pressure coming from that side too, in addition to the pressure coming from the Israeli side that finally got a resolution here and the hostages to be released. But your guy, Joe Scarborough, Morning Joe, who I think you have forecast may very well run for president. And the more I think about it, the more I like, I wish I.

[Clay Travis]

Was funny because somehow like you're responsible for Gavin Newsom for no apparent reason and I'm responsible for Joe. Joe Scarborough for no apparent reason. It's like we've, we've been foisted upon us with these individuals. But yes, I guess I am the Scarborough expert here and you are the Newsom expert. Go ahead.

[Buck Sexton]

Scarborough bent the knee and went and met alongside of Mika with Trump at Mar A Lago. Side note, before I play this clip, Mika and Joe don't seem to be getting along that well. Buck, Now, I wouldn't want to do a live tele. Would you? I'm going to put you on the spot here. I'll just say I would not want to do a live show with my wife. I love my wife. We've been married for 21 years. I think she would strangle me if we did a live show every day. I don't know how you think you and Carrie would do live every day for several hours. Have you seen some of the clips of your boy Joe and Mika? They do not seem to be getting along very well. Like, there's a lot of tension on air when they're talking and I just sometimes watch it and I think that does not seem like an off air relationship. That would be very.

[Clay Travis]

Sometimes I feel like Joe might have left a seat up. I'm not going to lie there. There are moments when it feels like Joe waited for Mika to ask for help when he was sitting on the couch instead of knowing without being asked Clay, that she wanted help.

[Buck Sexton]

I don't know how many married couples would be able to do a live show like Joe and Mika do, period. If everything you said to your spouse was constantly on the air live and everybody was analyzed.

[Clay Travis]

Do you get in trouble for the not knowing when help is needed without being asked Help. I'm just wondering, is this the one? So does this ever come up for you?

[Buck Sexton]

I think Laura would probably say I get in trouble for not being very good at helping when help is asked for. So I'm a level of removed beyond. I don't even think she expects me to know when I should know she needs help. I think my ability to help when she needs help is actually under, underutilized, underserved would be Laura Travis's perspective on this. So my point on this is maybe John, Joe Scarborough wants out of the house. Maybe he's like, hey, you know, Iowa in January, not necessarily the place that anybody wants to go. It's pretty cold in New Hampshire in January, February. People are like, why would he leave the television? He might want to leave the television studio based on some of the clips that I've seen. But here he is saying, look, Trump, he gets more respect from these, these leaders than a lot of other presidents have in the past. Cut 10.

[Joe Scarborough]

It does seem that in a sense that Donald Trump was singular, in a sense, and that most other presidents would not have not only dealt with those leaders the way he did, as aggressively as he did, but to my mind, other presidents probably would not be feared as much as Donald Trump. And as I looked at the assemblage up there, I did understand that a lot of that was going on because people's fear of Donald Trump. The old saying, you know, better to be feared than loved, not something that I've always wanted to see in a leader. But for the purpose of yesterday, where you saw Erdogan meekly to his left and the Qatari leader meekly is right, the shoe fit there.

[Buck Sexton]

I just think this is evidence of, again, it's one thing for media figures to come around and have to be somewhat grudging in their appreciation for Trump. You know this because you're the Morning Joe viewer. What is the average Morning Joe viewer thinking as they are watching and realizing that Trump has done something that frankly, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris would never have been capable of if they were in office? And if you're Jewish and I know a lot of people out there listening to us right now are Jewish and you voted for Kamala and you voted for Joe Biden, how what are those conversations like? I'm curious for the Jewish Republican listeners out there, for the Trump supporting Republicans who are Jewish listening to us right now, do you have those conversations now when you're going to synagogue, when you are going to religious related events, when you're just engaged in Jewish cultural affairs, are people who know that you are a Trump person coming up and saying, hey, maybe I was wrong about Trump. Is there, you know, the idea of Hitler bringing world peace to the Middle East, I think was, was, was highly unlikely. But are any of these people particularly Jewish? Because it's that culture we talked about. Some people are just not noticing what's going on in the Middle east because they got other things going on in their life. That is not true for the Jewish community. Whatever your voting background was, everyone is aware of the hostage situation. Everyone is aware of the situation in Israel. Do you think those people maybe. Did you talk about this some with, with Carol? I'm curious what the reaction is in the Jewish community now that Trump has achieved perhaps the greatest success in the history of the modern presidency for Israel and for the Jewish people. It seems very hard to Dislike him now, basically, if you're being somewhat rational.

[Clay Travis]

Well, they would. I, I think Democrats who are Jewish, because I know some of them too. I have a lot of right wing Jewish friends. I do know some liberal Jewish Kamala Biden voters as well. I think what they would say, Clay, is that they just have priorities. For example, being pro abortion is more important than Israel to some, particularly if you get into more secular, secular liberal Jews, which is this whole other component of Judaism. Right. People that are Jewish, but they're not particularly religious in their Judaism and they can be very left wing in their politics. Someone like Bernie Sanders, from what I like, I don't think Bernie Sanders is observant at all as a Jew, but he's definitely Jewish, obviously. Definitely a Jewish guy, but he's radical left in his politics. I think that people that are in that mold would take the, take the opinion of, well, sure, the hostage thing is good, but I have all these other things that I care about more and that matters more in terms of my political allegiance. That's my sense of how. Because they're not going to move their votes. You know, there wasn't a big. Actually, you know, let's pull that up. I'm curious, what was the final. The tally of Jewish voters for Trump versus Common this last election. I'll pull that up while you keep going.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, well, we'll talk about that. I'm curious, see if you can get that data. And if you're out there and you're listening to us and you are a Jewish Trump voter, I am intrigued to hear if the conversation has begun to shift in any way as a result of this.

[Clay Travis]

So I will tell you something, Clay, if you remember, we talked about this because right after October 7, you were saying, I think there's going to be a big shift.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes.

[Clay Travis]

We didn't have a bet on this. We should have had a bet on this. And I told you there'll be no shift toward Trump because of the right being solid on Israel and the left being so clearly, you know, pro Hamas, open Hamas, broken.

[Buck Sexton]

When it came to the way that.

[Clay Travis]

Has a. Yeah, I mean, it's, there's variations of what it is. In some cases it's. It's Muslim American voters who actually just, you know, hate Israel. In other cases, it's just far left radical, even Jews who don't support Israel. But new polls show. Oh, wait, no, this is the. Wait, this is the poll. I'll pull the data, but my understanding is that there was very little change in the Jewish vote. In this last election. So we've got, we got.

[Buck Sexton]

That would surprise me somewhat. Now, white women, if you count Jewish people as a part of it, to be fair, white women actually were more likely to vote for Kamala Harris in 2024 than they were Joe Biden. It's the only group that Kamala Harris did better in. There's a lot of broken brains in the white women community. We'll talk about, sorry, white women, but a lot of you are crazy.

[Clay Travis]

And then they're saying that Harris, Kamala Harris basically got 66% plus of the Jewish vote overall.

[Buck Sexton]

It would surprise me if the Jewish vote didn't move. We'll talk about this when we come back, Buck. Because New York City moved so aggressively towards Trump and even LA moved towards Trump, it would surprise me if a lot of those New York City votes were not Jewish voters moving in that direction.

[Clay Travis]

Well, the thing is we do great Republicans, the right, we do great with Jews who practice Judaism.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes.

[Clay Travis]

If that makes sense. So it's a more Orthodox and people that are more keep kosher. But the more you get into the Judaism, the more you get into right wing in this country. It is the secular liberal, Jewish contingent.

[Buck Sexton]

Contingent, yes.

[Clay Travis]

Liberal. They're liberal, yes. That's, that's what you have so tough to. Tough to. I'm, I'm trying to parse these numbers right now and even the numbers aren't.

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[Clay Travis]

All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. Things getting spicy. We mentioned the View. A little bit of a back and forth with the wife of RFK Jr. And Sonny Hostin, the most hostile member of the View on all things. I might just add. She's just the most hostile person on that show in general. But she was hostile with Cheryl Hines is her name, right? I'm she. I know her from the Larry David show. Am I right? That's her name. Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, yeah.

[Clay Travis]

Team. Yeah. Making sure she's. She's an actress. She's married to RFK Jr. So they, they had a bit of a. A tet a tete. And we shall discuss that coming up here. Also, the. I think it's the biggest liberal podcast now. Pivot. You know this, this show, Pivot for Libs. If you're like a New York Magazine, New York Times subscriber, this is the pod. This and the. The New York Times podcast are the two.

[Buck Sexton]

Who is on the Pivot pod? Like, I don't know.

[Clay Travis]

It is. I forget her name. And Dr. Or Professor Galloway from NYU.

[Buck Sexton]

Scott Galloway. Is it? Kara Swisher.

[Clay Travis]

Kara Swisher, that's right, Kara Swisher. And she argued with me about masks once online. That's all I remember from her. And she was wrong and I was right. So apparently Buck is very smart and she should say, I'm sorry that I was so wrong. But Scott Galloway, he actually says some very good things on some topics. I will say. But he weighed in. We're going to get to his analysis. Clay, of a possible. He talked about a possible Kamala run. I think you'll be pleased to know that this is something that the Libs are discussing now as a. As a thing that may happen. I want to hold everybody in suspense over this one, though.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, also, did you see, and I love this. Kamala wrote, remember we had fun with this, that Gavin Newsom texted her out hiking. We'll call you back. When she announced that she was running and then never actually called him back, which was. Yes, I never called her back.

[Clay Travis]

Ghosted the Democrat presidential candidate for the entire campaign.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes, evidently. Did you see this? This follow up to that after she wrote about it in on. This is amazing. This actually Kamala, I give Kamala credit this. Unlike Alyssa Farr Griffin, like, I'll call balls and strikes here. This is actually funny. I thought it was funny that Gavin Newsom never called her back because he said he was out hiking. Gavin Newsom was upset that she wrote about that in the book. And he texted, this is the latest version of this buck. He texted Kamala and said, well, you know, I did post on social media an endorsement for you, and you didn't include that in the book. And Kamala Harris texted him back on book tour. Will text, will call you back. So he finally texted her after a year of not commenting, like, hey, with the link, I did endorse you on social media. This should have been in the book. And Kamala Harris texted him back on book tour. We'll get back to you. So my point on this is they are really kind of going at it in a very frenemy way that suggests that they are aware of being opponents in the 2028 election. And I don't think there's a lot lost here. You know this. Sometimes politicians can go at it in public and actually like each other privately. In other words, it's a little bit of a. A public show. I don't think Kamala and Gavin Newsom like each other at all. And I think they want the same thing in 28. Yes, I think they both want to run.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, he. We'll get into this because like I said, a big liberal podcast out there has weighed in on this one. I think Clay needs to hear that analysis and in particular, and we will also dive into this, this situation on the view with RFK Jr and his wife rather talking about things going on with this administration. Trump continuing to push on securing the city of Chicago, the city of Portland. There's more on that. And we also have Eric Trump joining us in the third hour, everybody. So the show is stacked.

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