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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Yeah. For people who have forgotten. And I know there are so many different legal proceedings. We've joked kind of about this, but I never would have believed when I went to law school that I would end up just analyzing Trump legal cases for what feels like a career oftentime. Because Trump 2.0 has primarily been driven, the resistance has by the judiciary, by the legal branch, and it all started as a part of the 2024 election. So this particular case, and I know there are so many of them that it is hard to keep up, was brought by Letitia James, alleging mortgage fraud. And I'm trying to simplify this a little bit. And she said the mortgage fraud was that Trump inflated the assets that were under his control to obtain. Obtain a lower rate of the mortgage than he otherwise should have. But. And this is why the case was really outlandish from the start. He paid all the loans back, so there was no actual victim here.
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Buck Sexton
Even worse. Even worse than that, Clay, he paid all the loans back with interest. And the banks said they had no problem with this. They agreed with his. The banks did an independent assessment. They always do.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, this is. Well, anyone who's gotten a mortgage knows it is a giant pain in the butt. The banks do their own assessment. They want their own person to go in there, Clay. The bank said they would be. This was part of the court filings. They would be eager to do business with Trump again.
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Clay Travis
Yes. So this was an incredibly strange legal theory to begin with because there was no victim. And so the idea that Trump should have to pay back, what, five, over $500 million with interest. Now, she tried to calculate what the rate, in her opinion, should have been for the loans that Trump took out that he ended up paying back and that the bank said they were very comfortable in the deal. They did, and then argued that that was a fraud perpetrated that the state of New York needed to investigate, bring civil criminal penalties. Civil penalties against. And the New York Court of Appeals just said, this is garbage. And here is where I think we are headed. I think all these cases are going to end up getting tossed. I think there are three. Correct me if I'm wrong, but. Because sometimes I get kind of lost in the weeds on some of this, too. There are three New York State trials and. Or legal proceedings of significance. There's probably more than this. One is this one that was just tossed out, the mortgage fraud. The other one was the E. Jean Carroll civil suit relating to allegations of sexual assault. I think that's going to be tossed. I've explained why. And then is it 34 felony counts over bookkeeping fraud. It was 34. Right. Not 43. I can't remember which one of those numbers that sounds right.
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Buck Sexton
Yes.
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Clay Travis
Uh, I think all three of these are gonna get tossed eventually. Uh, the felonies, obviously, is the only one that is criminal in nature. Um, and it is a sham case that is going to be tossed on appeal. The most likely, if you had me rank them to remain, uh, if Trump were gonna lose one of these, it would be the E. Jean Carroll. But I just. At its baseline, again, this goes into the weeds. I don't understand how it's defamation to deny that you raped someone. I mean, that seems. That seems like fair. Fair for Trump to say, right?
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Buck Sexton
This would mean. This would mean that in any case, by the way, your defense would make you lie. Liable for. Liable for the defense itself. Right? I didn't do this thing. Let's have a trial. Oh, we're going to find you guilty. And by the way, because you said you didn't do it, we're also going to sue you because of what you said in court. I mean, I don't understand how it's.
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Clay Travis
It is crazy. And let me be even clearer on this, because this. We've seen a lawsuit over George Stephanopoulos of this. Trump was actually, in a civil context, found not to have committed rape. That is, the jury found it more likely than not in a civil context that he did not commit a rape. They did find it more likely than not that he had engaged in sexual assault. So he then said, this is where the additional lawsuit and additional damages came. Buck. And after this verdict, he said, well, that's not true. I didn't, you know, rape her. I didn't sexually assault her. And then she's lying about that. And then she sued him again, saying, well, he defamed her based on the ruling that she had gotten. So, again, I just think that case is garbage. We're Seeing the Letitia James mortgage case is officially basically from the New York Court of Appeals garbage. And I think all the felony charges are going to get tossed, too. Now, a lot of you may say, why do. I don't even care. Trump's in office. All these things. I do think the court's rulings here matter because the precedent they put in place when they went after Trump. If you happen to be a Republican and live in a blue state, or candidly, if you happen to be in a Democrat and run in a red state, we can't allow your politics to become proxy for civil and criminal liability just based on what you happen to believe. In my opinion, Trump stomped on lawfare.
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Buck Sexton
The same way that he stomped on MSNBC and CNN and accomplished things that I don't think many of us believed were even possible years ago. In both. In both of those instances, the fact that you had. It was four criminal trials, or four criminal prosecutions, rather, and multiple civil suits, all timed to hit him at the same time. And while he's running for president. And that he will emerge from all of that clay, essentially. Now, I know there's still the New York case, but that one, I agree with you. I mean, there's going to be. There's going to be no punishment that they. He's the president. They can't do anything right now, and there's going to be no punishment for it. And I think eventually that's going to be overturned as well. He's going to emerge unscathed from all of this.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
Which is. Which is incredible. And, and it also goes to, I think, the desperation that the Democrats feel right now, because what happens when you've thrown everything in the kitchen sink and the other guy just grins and keeps coming? That's exactly what Trump did. They did everything. They could abuse the system in ways we have never seen before as a country. And Trump is president more popular than he's ever been. His base is more behind him than they've ever been. That's even possible. And what have they got? Gavin Newsom trying to create cool guy memes of himself and posting them online.
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Clay Travis
It's one of the most remarkable things I've ever seen. I mean, whatever you think of Trump, I don't know that we have ever seen someone take this degree of attack and just keep moving forward and ultimately vanquish everybody who tried to fight against him. I mean, at this point, you're going to like this pop culture reference. It feels like Trump is Neo in the Matrix, Buck. It feels like he has just learned how to move at a different speed and how to handle attack. For those of you who have seen the movie in a way that is unprecedented and where he can basically turn on his foes and just utterly vanquish them. And look, I do. The one thing I will say is I really admire Trump because there were so many cowards who refused to stand up for Trump that now are showing up and kissing the ring. He's been the COVID for a lot of companies out there that knew that their woke employees were engaging in ridiculous insubordination that undercut the very fabric of the company's culture itself. And he is making so much of American society better because they're using him as the COVID and saying, well, you know, Trump won. We have to do this. They're doing what they know to be right because Trump has given them the COVID to do it. And I just think the Trump story for decades to come is actually going to get more impressive because so many people out there are caught up in the political moment day to day, and they've just decided they hate Trump. And as that fades, I think Trump is going to become an even more iconic figure than he is as we speak about him on this day.
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Buck Sexton
This is a man who at no point during the effort to destroy him, destroy his, his legacy, his reputation, take away his freedom, tried to bankrupt him. I mean, it's 500 million, I think, plus 100 million in interest. Now, Trump has a lot of money, but that hurts anybody. Cash. Okay. When was the last time you heard of a fine for an individual that big, I might add. I mean, how much money could he have possibly made? What would the differential have been with these bank loans if they had even been. There's no way it would have been.
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Clay Travis
600 million bonkers buck. I mean, they went back in time to the date of the initial loan and decided to create their own loan amount, sorry, loan rate, and then charge him interest on that for. I mean, it's one of the most harebrained legal schemes I've ever seen. And again, it is Trump derangement syndrome inside of a courtroom. And I honestly think Letitia James should be disbarred over some of the legal arguments that she has made and some of the.
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Buck Sexton
If she, as has been alleged, was involved in mortgage actual clear mortgage fraud herself, she should spend some time in a prison. That should actually happen because she sent other people to prison for that while she was ag. No problem with that. Why shouldn't she go? She'll. She would send any of you. If you checked, you know, it's my primary residence and it's not, and you got a better rate and all, she would, she would send you to prison, but she doesn't go to prison. But just one more note on Trump Clay. During this whole process, never once did you see this guy. And he's, you know, in the public all the time. He's showing up for the mug shot and he got shot, as we know, in Butler, Pennsylvania. Never once did you see this guy despair. Never once did you see him claim that he's, he's unable to handle all the forces arrayed against him. I mean, there's a real, there's a real lesson on that. I mean, this guy is a force of nature. A lot of what was thrown against him would have been enough to break even some considerable formidable people out there. And he just kept coming. He just kept coming. There's a life lesson in that, you know, Never give up. All right. We spent time yesterday on the program discussing D.C. crime. As you know and I know not that many. You live in D.C. but wherever you are, you need to be prepared. There are home invasions that can happen even in very safe jurisdictions. You just want to make sure that you have the tools you need in your home to protect yourself and your family. This is why we're such big believers in Sabre products. Sabre products, which are non lethal, whole range of personal and home defense project project products have safeguarded hundreds of thousands of people's. Their pepper sprays, pepper gels and projectile devices are all made here in the US and my wife Carrie, she prefers having non lethal options. And so we have Sabre home defense projectile launchers here because if I'm not around and someone's trying to, you know, break in the door or something happens, she knows that she can defend herself with non lethal options. Act now to protect yourself and your family. Save 15% on Saber's Mega bundle with extra projectiles, magazines and practice targets. Visit sabre radio.com that's s a b r e radio.com or call 844-824-SAFE 844-824-SAVE.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Justin Will, welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Oh, there's so many different stories out there. We're gonna have to dive into this cracker barrel story in a bit. But I do think the Trump legal victories. We're gonna have some audio from Letitia James here shortly. Um, I did some reading on the potential mortgage fraud that could be brought against her and I think it's possible there are going to be charges brought because she clearly lied on the, on the mortgage applications. And I think typically you don't allow lawyers to claim, oh, I just, I clicked the wrong box. You know, you are a lawyer, maybe you should avoid, you know, clicking the so called wrong box. But I do wonder, as we're all talking to you today, at some point in time, if you had bought into Trump derangement syndrome, wouldn't you have to sit back and think, boy, I've really been lied to. A Lot. I mean, as Trump continues to stack victories, he wins the popular vote, he moves in votes in his direction in all 50 states. Even in New York, the appeals court, even in New York is like this is a crazy town theory that Tish James tried to bring. The AG of New York were tossing the whole thing out. All of it is going up in smoke. Who were they angry at? I mean, I try to put myself in the head of the childless cat lady out there that has been for a decade now, convinced that Trump is Hitler and that he's a unique threat to America and all these things. Wouldn't you have to get angry at some point at someone other than Trump and the people who have lied to you and told you all of these things that are clearly not true. And I mean, I just, I can't understand how your brain could be. So at some point, wouldn't you have to rationally say, man, they've really played me for a rube. They've made fun of me like they, I don't, I just don't, I don't get it, Clay.
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Buck Sexton
It's just, it's, it's self fulfilling. It's the self licking ice cream cone. They just go deeper into a cocoon of despair. That's the, Once you're on this trajectory of Trump is worse than Hitler and everything he does is horrible. And any moment now the country's gonna fall apart. It's a catastrophism cycle in the brain. These people, they don't, they won't escape it for the most part. I think they're gonna stay, they're gonna stay in it as long as they possibly can until Trump is gone. And then it will be, oh, I can't believe the country still exists. We were so close to Trump destroying the whole country and be like, yeah, all the peace and prosperity that he brought, it was so horrible.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. A lot of news breaking, a lot of things happening. So thanks for joining us here live and in real time as we are making sense of it all for you. Just dropping, let me see. When did this happen? Yeah, right when we started the show today, right as we came on air. Almost like he teed it up for Clay and Buck. Donald Trump on Truth Social in regards to the massive court victory, as Clay just pointed out to me in the commercial break, 50 by the appellate court in New York, all the judges saying this entire. Let me just be clear, 5, 0 against Trump in New York. Those are judges. They've been, you know, these are judges in a very blue state. These are judges who, I'm sure I haven't looked at who appointed them, but some Obama appointees probably there. Some Biden appointees or how.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, let me point out this, too, by the way. We haven't had the time to read. There are three different opinions among the five judges. So the whole thing is just a cluster. I'm trying to avoid cursing. Yes, it's a cluster, but it is to your point. Yes. I mean, a New York Court of Appeals siding with Trump is, I think they held this for a long time. They didn't want to release it before the election. I mean, this, this timing is no coincidence.
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Buck Sexton
So Trump has weighed in on Truth Social and it is a doozy. This is a big truth, not a little truth, very large. Here we go. I'm going to read some of this to you. Total victory, all caps in the fake New York State Attorney General Letitia James case. I greatly respect the fact that the court had the courage to throw out this unlawful and disgraceful decision that was hurting business all throughout New York State. Others were afraid to do business there. The amount, including interest and penalties, was over $550 million. It was a political witch hunt in a business sense, the likes of which no one has ever seen before. Case of election interference by the city and state trying to show illegally that I did things that were wrong when in fact everything I did was absolutely correct. And Even perfect, every single dollar was thrown out, even the penalties imposed on us by the corrupt judge, one of the most overturned in history, Arthur Engoron. I wasn't given a jury and during the course of the trial, which lasted a long time, was not given one ruling in my favor by this political hack. But worse than him, if possible, was Letitia James, a corrupt and incompetent attorney general who only brought this case in order to hurt me politically. She is a Trump deranged lunatic. They made me bond the outrageous sum, which never happened before, cost me millions of dollars a month. It should have never been allowed to happen. Everyone knew it. Importantly, the vote was 5 to 0. I'm so honored by Justice David Friedman's great words of wisdom, which should be read by everyone. I would also like to thank the court for having the courage to make this decision, et cetera. I mean, Clay, he talks about how.
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Clay Travis
They should winding Trump Post.
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Buck Sexton
I got less than halfway through it, everybody. I mean, it's. I'll just say this.
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Clay Travis
He.
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Buck Sexton
He is laying haymakers on this whole thing. And it is. Now, look, it's. It's a huge win for Trump. There's no question. It's a 600. I think it's right at 500 million plus 100 million, basically in the everything together. So call it a $600 million, give or take, no matter who you are. $600 million. A lot of money. $600 million you were going to pay for what? Who is this even being paid to? You're going to pay to the state of New York because a bunch of banks with, you know, hundreds of billions on the asset on the balance sheets or whatever, said Trump's a great guy to do business with, we would do it again. This was one of. I think you could actually argue this was the craziest case because I know people say, oh, E. Jean Carroll, you know, they talk about this. Well, you know, anyone can accuse someone of something from 30 years ago. This is why we actually have a statute of limitations.
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Clay Travis
Let me point out on the E. Jean Carroll, they changed the statute of limitations to allow Trump to be sued on this.
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Buck Sexton
The statute of limitations is a very important. I know sometimes people say, oh, but, you know, it feels. No, it's very important. Okay. Because it's unfair to a defendant. And there are, you know, there are places like murder and other, you know, extreme sex crimes and treason and things like. There are no statute of limitations statutes. But in general, if someone can accuse you of something from 20 years ago or 30 years ago, like, defending yourself against this is very challenging. Right. This is a very hard thing to do because, you know, for a whole range of reasons and also memories fade and the evidence that's presented. My point is, even with all that, I think that the. I think the Letitia James case against Trump was the most egregious abuse of the law on a. In a legal sense, I know it wasn't criminal, but. But I think it was. You co signed this one. I think it was the most. You have got to be bleeping kidding me. I cannot believe they're doing this.
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Clay Travis
Well, yeah, here's the way I would analyze it. I don't agree with E. Jean Carroll's lawsuit, but what she alleged, if it were true, is a crime. The other two, New York. And remember, it was a civil case, but at least her allegations would, if they occurred, merit significant legal attention. There's no victim in. When you borrow money from a bank. First of all, you're arguing that the bank is a victim here. The bank said they were not a victim, and they were paid back in full. And to your point, Buck, does anybody who's ever taken out a loan from a bank feel like the bank isn't adequately represented?
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Buck Sexton
So. So can we talk about this for a second, actually, because I did. I think that the mortgage fraud thing, it's a very severe statute that is, you know, this is just the power imbalance of banks versus individuals. Go to prison for 10 years because you could have gotten a different interest rate if you had checked a few different boxes. You know, it's. I think it's. I think this is actually a statute totally apart from Trump and Tish James, I think it's a pretty severe one. Unless it's a systemic. Someone's doing this over and over again. Clearly, there are people who, for pretty minor stuff, they go. They'll serve. I think the average mortgage fraud sentence is like two years in federal prison or something. I mean, you take, you know, people get sent away for this.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. That's at least criminal. This is civil. So they didn't even attempt to charge him with a criminal offense. They just said, you got a loan you shouldn't have gotten. In the opinion of the state of New York, and we are, as a result, going to give the rate, in our opinion, that you should have paid, and the difference between the rate that you should have paid in the rate that you got is going to be a fine to come back to the state.
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Buck Sexton
This is also to suggest that Tish James and her team are better in retrospect, assessors of real estate value not only than Donald Trump, but the banks who have their own independent. Not inspection. What do you call it when someone comes. Is it the assessor or. No, it's the.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, yeah, more a mortgage evaluator.
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Buck Sexton
The guy who evaluates whatever you want. There's a term for it, but yeah.
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Clay Travis
Appraiser. My point, the mortgage appraiser. The appraisal. Appraiser.
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Buck Sexton
That's the word I'm looking at. Thank you. Appraiser. This is. This is absurd, right? I mean, these are. People looked at this, said, this is a great deal. It would be like if Clay, if you and I were sitting there and we were. We were buying a car from. From. From Tish James, and we said, this is the price. And she said, that's a great price. And we paid that price. And she says, great, I got a good price on my car. You guys got a car you like, everyone's happy. And then later she's like, you know what? I'm going to prosecute you guys. You paid way too little for that car. It's like you agreed to the price of the car. Like, everyone was happy. I don't understand.
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Clay Travis
It is even crazier than that buck, because it's not even about the deal. It's about Trump's politics because they would have never, ever looked at this if he hadn't got involved in politics.
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Buck Sexton
So it was all. It's all, it's all pretextual. But the fact that this was even broad is madness. But, you know, when you bring up the Cribble versus Seminole Cribble, sorry, criminal versus Civil separation, remember, it's a. It's a fit for Everybody. It's a 50%, 51% standard, which is so, so hugely different. The E. Jean Carroll thing, the standard the jury has is. Do you think it's like a 50 better than 50, 50 shot? This lady's telling the truth. On. Again, on the sexual assault part, not actually on. On rape. I think there was a distinction that was made in that. In that case about it. Right. So essentially, do you think. Do you think Trump might have grabbed or groped this woman? You know, that's different than did he actually forcibly penetrate this woman? Which I believe that was not what he was found.
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Clay Travis
Right.
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Buck Sexton
And that's where he went after Stephanopoulos. That wasn't even in the civil trial.
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Clay Travis
Found to be that they found that he did not. He did not do that in the civil trial. Yeah, but.
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Buck Sexton
But do you think that maybe he groped this lady in a. And the standard in. In a criminal trial, it would be, guys, are you absolutely. I mean, the real standard, beyond a reasonable doubt, are you absolutely sure that Donald Trump grabbed this woman 30 years ago and should possibly lose his freedom? That's criminal, civil. It's. Hey, do you think he was, you know, grabbing this lady? We don't know, but, like, better than 50. 50. Huge difference.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
And that's why when they. When they change the rules and they use these civil things, they're just hoping to get a jury that doesn't like Trump that goes, yeah, whatever, screw him.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. They were trying to bankrupt him. They were trying to imprison him for life. They were trying to end his political future. And now the shoe is on the other foot. As Trump has said, in the first term, he was the hunted. Now he's the hunter. And I do think it's important to play back. Here is Letitia James bragging in 2023. I'm gonna come back to all of you soon with a check for $250 million. Remember, they also tried to ban him from doing business ever again in New York. And my recollection is the Trump sons. The Trump sons were banned from doing business in New York over this. I mean, this was effectively. And attempt to force Trump out of New York. And honestly, when this all happened, I remember we talked about it a lot on the show, but I said, this is why I'm never leaving Tennessee. This is why I'm very comfortable living in my red state of Tennessee, people that. I'm not saying I'm going to be perfect, but I don't have to worry about getting attacked like this. This is cut 27. Letitia James bragging about taking Trump's money.
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Letitia James
Listen, I will be honored when I walk into that courtroom on October 2nd. Well, my role is civil.
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Lisa Booth
But I.
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Letitia James
Will come back before you soon with a check for $250 million. And to let you know that he is no longer allowed to do business in the state of New York. Yeah, we got a. We've got a special charge to show up and stand up for one another.
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Clay Travis
She's in trouble. She's in real trouble. If she weren't in New York, she already would have lost her job. And I know there's an investigation into her, but with this New York appeals court decision, I think she's in trouble. I haven't forgotten about Alvin Bragg. I know Trump has not either. I know his DOJ is investigating both of these individuals. Again. I think the felonies are going to be tossed eventually on appeal in New York. I think the timing on this is not coincidental. They held this for a year, if I'm not mistaken, to wait till after the election to release this opinion. And I again, this is total vindication for Trump, but I think he wants to take the next step and send a message that total vindication for him is not. I mean, he still had to spend millions of dollars in legal fees. He still had to tie up hundreds of millions of dollars. I think he had to get a bond of $150 million or something to even appeal this. I understand why he wants there to be consequences for Letitia James and why he wants there to be consequences for Alvin Bragg. One more cut, Buck. This was Letitia James, before all this happened, going on the View and saying, I'm going to get Trump. Remember, this is unprecedented. Cut 28.
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Buck Sexton
You also intend to prosecute him after he is out of office. Correct.
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Letitia James
Our investigation currently is civil in nature. It is not criminal.
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Clay Travis
It is.
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Buck Sexton
Yes.
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Letitia James
Our civil suit will continue whether he's president or not. And so after January 20th at 12 o', clock, our investigation will continue. Joy, he cannot pardon himself. What he could do is step down and allow the vice president, Vice President Pence, to pardon him. Now, it's important to understand he is pardoned from federal crimes, but he is not pardoned from state crimes. Last year, I introduced a bill in the state legislature which would close the pardon loophole so that individuals such as the President of the United States would not evade justice. It's important that we have this check on presidential powers.
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Clay Travis
What? There's so many things I would like to call her that would not be allowed on FCC broadcast, but has she ever commented on Joe Biden's pardons?
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Buck Sexton
No. She's a horror. She's a horrible person. Just based on her actions. I mean, what she did. Trump is a father, he's a grandfather, he's an American, he's a patriot. And the glee she has trying to. He's president and former president, current president. The glee that she takes and the. And the sense of pride she has in trying to destroy somebody over what? All this, all this flowery language she's using about, you know, no one's above the law and everything else. I'm sorry, what's the law that he broke? What's the bad thing that he did that we need to punish? The law that he broke is being Trump and taking the fight to the left and making Democrats sad at election time.
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Clay Travis
That's the law that he broke and honestly having the misfortune to have done it all while having many of his businesses registered in New York, which I think the ultimate consequence of all of this is a lot of people said I'm not willing to have my businesses based on in New York where I can be prosecuted if my politics don't end up aligning with whoever is in power there. I think Elon Musk saw this. I think it's why he's moved so much of his assets to Texas. That's why I'm never leaving Tennessee. I imagine it's one reason you're happy to be in Florida, but I think a lot of people out there with New York assets have made that decision. Look, I told you about my trip to Legacy Box headquarters, Chattanooga, Tennessee, my mom's hometown. What a cool experience it was. It was like being in a time capsule because they can take all of your media, 8 millimeter films, VHS tapes, old photographs, and they can digitize them. And they have different parts of their huge facility there in Chattanooga where they are digitizing so many of these different, so many of these different products. In fact, I was talking with Adam, one of the co founders there, and he said, look, we basically are on eBay buying VHS, VCR, VCRs all the time. And he said, we got techs who can put these things back working together because they're not making more VCRs. And we want to make sure that we can preserve your family's memories. They do incredible work. Right now, before the holidays start, you can get 50 off your order. You get the originals back. It's very easy to use. Go to legacybox.com clay50 off your order. That's legacybox.com clay one more time. Legacybox.com clay sometimes all you can do is laugh and they do a lot of it. With the Sunday hanging, join Clay and Buck as they laugh it up in the Klay and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. You know, you know, if you listen to this show regularly that we're just not the kind of people who want to throw anybody under a bus. Just don't want to draw attention to the staff when they screw up. It's just not really kind of thing that we do on this program. But yesterday producer Greg had us in the show with a suicide hotline call. Ish. Should we play this at the top of the next hour? I think maybe we do. Maybe we let his punishment hang through the break. We're all in a great mood. Everybody across America was high fiving. There was just a rainbow dropping, you know, pot of gold. Everybody was in such a good mood and producer Greg said, go to this. It's a great way to finish the show. And it was all about like suicide hotline calls and stuff. And I finished and I just, I mean, it was a dour moment. Dark cloud on a sunshiny day.
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Buck Sexton
Can you also tell us about something, Clay? You have more expertise than this than me because I have never been to one. The outcry over the cracker barrel.
- [48:25]
Clay Travis
Yes, I'm gonna, I'm gonna dive into this I'm gonna dive into.
- [48:29]
Buck Sexton
This barrel has been changed.
- [48:30]
Clay Travis
There's no barrel anymore and there's no cracker. We will talk about it when we come back. Lots to get to. Clay and Buck, come hang with us.
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Clay Travis
Now you can stream Fox News live on the Fox one app. Stay on top of breaking news and the biggest stories live as they happen. All from the Fox voices you trust, bringing you the coverage you won't find anywhere else.
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Buck Sexton
Start your 7 day free trial today. Offers are subject to change. Go to Fox one for complete terms and conditions. Fox one we live for live streaming now.
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Clay Travis
You want smart political talk without the meltdowns?
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Lisa Booth
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
And I'm Mary Kathryn Ham. We've been around the block in media and we're doing things differently.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Join us every Tuesday and Thursday normal.
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Clay Travis
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Lisa Booth
Wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
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