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Clay Travis
Welcome in our number two Wednesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us next hour. Top of the next hour. I just saw they have locked the doors of the on the conclave that will decide the next Pope, we will head to Rome, Vatican City in particular, I suppose, to talk with Raymond Arroyo of Fox News about that potential process. And there is much going on that will be dramatic, I would imagine, as we wait to see whether white pope will white smoke will climb into the night sky in Rome to let us know that there has been a new pope crowned or whether they will go into tomorrow. I believe they have votes in the morning and the afternoon. I was doing reading to try to familiarize myself with this process because it's been a little while since we selected a Pope and waiting to see when the smoke comes out whether it's black, meaning they have not selected a pope, or white, meaning they have selected a pope. How much attention do you pay to this as a Catholic? Buck? A huge, probably, I don't know, 30% of this audience roughly, probably is Catholic. Do you pay attention and know any of these names? Are there any? Like, how do you think the average Catholic person in the United States follows this process?
Buck Sexton
I think it's a very small number of people who know much about the possible candidates among the various cardinals. So but I think that there will be there is tremendous interest in who the Pope will be, but there's not a lot of detailed knowledge out there in general for what the possibilities are, what they've stood for in the past. I'm speaking in broad terms if you are a world class expert on all cardinals from all over the world. My apologies for not thinking of you right away. But generally I think it's just we want to find out who the Pope is. Pope's been a big deal for a long time.
Clay Travis
I'm sending these to producer Greg right now. I know he is listening. I want to add this audio because I think it kind of epitomizes how lost much of our media has become. But I don't know how many of you know this story, so let me give you a little bit of background Buck. You may or may not know the story. Three years ago, Florida passed the don't say the so called don't say gay bill in the state of Florida. Disney sued and it turned into a major cultural flashpoint such that live on air on espn, which is owned by Disney, they paused to have a moment of silence in allyship with LGBTQI people who were upset by this.
Buck Sexton
Can I just also point out the media went full throttle so that they could convince people the bill is the Parental Rights and education bill. It's HB 1557.
Clay Travis
Correct.
Buck Sexton
Parental rights in education. Nowhere does it say you can't say gay. And it's not even the name of the bill. So it was a pure propaganda operation.
Clay Travis
Completely accurate. And I'm glad you brought that up because I was going to hammer this home because I think it has been discussed recently as we've been talking about what books. Remember they had the Supreme Court argument and even some people on the left were like, man, that's crazy that you would be reading these books to kindergarteners. All the Florida Bill did. Ron DeSantis is 100% right on this. All the bill did was say there will be no sex or gender instruction for kindergartner first, second, third, third grade kids. I would even argue I've got a fourth grader, he's 10. I think you could expand it probably to fourth and fifth grade too, until a kid gets to puberty. Ish. Age 5th grade, 6th grade, I think is certainly early a little bit, but at least that's in the vicinity of when kids might become aware of puberty. Why in the world would any public school need to be teaching gender, sex based in any way issues to classrooms?
Buck Sexton
Well, you know, it's. It's a question that we actually have to keep answering. Right. It's not a rhetorical question. Why do they want to do this? Because it's indoctrination. Because it actually goes to the core ideology, the core of the ideology they're trying to present, which is that. And it does not make sense. But a lot of things don't make sense that people ardently believe. Right. You know, yeah, Democrats think socialism is going to work this time anyway. A lot of things don't make sense, but one of them is that doctors get the gender of the baby wrong. Yes. And so it starts from the very youngest age that somehow they can like reverse bioengineer this and they need to get people as young as possible, because otherwise it's too clear that this is a choice or this is a psychological condition that develops as you get older. They want this to be. It is like. It is like skin color. It is an immutable thing that you must understand is a. Is, you know, a person is that way and there's no changing it. And so we must all respect it equally. It is not like skin color as we know. Uh, it is. It is in fact, not a physical manifestation at all, even though there are people who are intersex. But that is not what transgenderism is. Um, and now we get to why they want to push it so early and why they want to push it on such young kids. Because clay, in their mind also, this is not about sex. This is about civil rights. This is a civil rights issue. This is like training anti racism into second grader.
Clay Travis
Well, we got an audio clip for that, but I think many people don't know this happened. So the reason why I'm bringing it up today is Disney has announced this morning that they are going to be building a brand new theme park, New Disney World, Disneyland, whatever it is, in Abu Dhabi. And in Abu Dhabi, in the country of the uae, I believe you're better at geography than me. I looked it up. In the uae, you can be beheaded if you are gay. So not exactly a expansive view of human sexuality in the uae.
Buck Sexton
In the uae, you could probably say gay, but then you might be beheaded. Yeah, that's the bad part.
Clay Travis
Ok, so over this Florida bill, which, as Buck rightly points out, was misattributed to a don't say gay bill. It just said kindergarten, first, second, third graders can't be gender instructed. Disney and I don't think this got enough tension. Which owns espn, they had a moment of silence live on the air during a women's basketball game. This is Elle Duncan. I have tagged her on Twitter to ask when we should expect the moment of silence over the new theme park that Disney is opening in Abu Dhabi. But listen to what you could have tuned in just to watch a women's college basketball game on espn. This is what you would have heard. This is what they did over the Florida bill. Listen, cut 26.
Elle Duncan
Just happening in Florida and across other states as well that are targeting our LGBTQI plus communities. Many of our colleagues here at ESPN have planned and organized a walkout that will be happening at 3pm Eastern today. And to be honest with you, we thought we were going to come here today and really celebrate a sport that has meant so much and done so much, including for so many in the LGBTQI plus communities. But we understand the gravity of this legislation and also how it is affecting so many families across this country. And because of that, our allyship is going to take a front seat. And with that, we're going to pause in solidarity.
Clay Travis
Okay, I'm going to play another cut for you that I've had them introduce. Buck. This is during the women's NCAA basketball tournament. You tune it in. It was South Carolina and Howard are playing. You are a parent and you're like, hey, I want to watch this basketball game with my little girl or my little boy. You put on sports. That is what you saw. Okay. This was their reaction to the Florida bill. Now Disney is building a theme park in Abu Dhabi where theoretically you could be beheaded if you are gay. What is the necessity that ESPN must undertake here?
Buck Sexton
Now, Buck, first off, do we need to do a fact finding mission? Is this going to be like Clay and Buck's excellent Abu Dhabi adventure? Do we have to show up to this new. Is Minnie Mouse going to be wearing a burka? Like, how does this go?
Clay Travis
It's a fabulous question, and let me say this. I don't begrudge companies that are global in nature deciding to try and reach the largest global audience. What I am opposed to is what? When you wag your finger and lecture all of us in America and then your company engages in behavior which is far worse than what you are complaining about occurring here, and you are shut up and you say nothing at all about it.
Buck Sexton
Well, what you see is with the ideology of the left in America, it's all about power dynamics and who they think they can bully.
Clay Travis
Yes.
Buck Sexton
And in this country, they can bully particularly what they view as a, as a predominantly Christian and majority white. Although, you know, it's not. Not a huge majority. But they think that they can bully them as much as they possibly want to do absolutely anything that they want, and we may comply. Like we, we might actually just completely. That's why the gender thing, for example, matters so much to them. Because if they can get us to say that, you know what, that, that 6 foot 8, 250 pound dude who thinks he's a woman because he grew his hair a little long, hasn't gotten a haircut in a while and is dunking on all the chicks on the basketball court and scoring 140 points a game. That's good. That's civil rights. That's progress. If they can make us do that, they can make us do absolutely anything. But they know that they can't actually pull this stuff off Clay in China, they can't pull it off in the Middle east, they can't pull it off in the Middle Africa, they can't pull off the wokeness routine in countries or, and or continents where overwhelmingly it's one non white and two, it's going to be rejected. They're going to say no, that's crazy to us. So this is the, the whole thing is a scam. They don't actually mean what they say on the left.
Clay Travis
Ok, this is even crazier, Buck. This is the game itself. So I just played the introduction of ESPN saying we're going to have a moment of silence. This is the game broadcasters. I've never seen or heard this happen anywhere. This is on ESPN's broadcast. You are sitting down to watch South Carolina Howard women's college basketball tournament. And this is what the two game broadcasters said right after El Duncan tossed it to them. While the game is going on itself, listen to cut 27.
Courtney Lyle
Courtney Lyle, Carolyn Peck. Now, normally at this time, we would take a look back at the first half, but there are things bigger than basketball that need to be addressed at this time. Our friends, our family, our co workers, the players and coaches in our community are hurting right now. And at 3:00 clock about eight minutes ago, our LGBTQIA teammates at Disney asked for our solidarity and support, including our company's support in opposition to the Parental Rights in Education bill in the state of Florida and similar legislature across the United States. And a threat to any human rights is a threat to all human rights. And at this time, Courtney and I, we're gonna take a pause from our broadcast to show our love and support for our friends, our families and our colleagues.
Clay Travis
The game is going on right now and that's the way it. Can you believe? I don't think this got enough attention when it happened. This was a couple years ago, but this morning when I saw the Abu Dhabi News, I couldn't help but think, well, this is interesting, right? If you're so opposed to the Florida bill, which Buck you rightly pointed out, all it did was say kindergarten, first, second, third graders were not gonna instruct an education related to sex, wasn't gay, trans, anything else which overwhelming majorities of parents support. And that was their reaction to the Florida bill. Well, now they're building an entire theme park in a country that believes gay people should be beheaded. And I just Think it illustrates the depths of the hypocrisy that there will not be a scintilla of noise that comes out of ESPN over this Disney corporate decision.
Buck Sexton
I mean, you're talking about gay people, but what do you think? How do you think it goes for you in Abu Dhabi? Abu Dhabi, if you walk around, you're like, no, I'm actually a. They.
Clay Travis
I don't think it's.
Buck Sexton
Well, I think the authorities. I don't think, first of all, it's an authoritarian state. They detain people, they torture people, they do whatever they want. They. I mean, it's a nice place to visit if you're an American or European. You got a lot of money. Just don't step out of line at all. And don't talk about politics to anybody. Yeah, I mean, you think, you walk around, you're like, you know, my name, my name isn't Steve, it's actually Sally. And like, you have to use the preferred pronouns. I don't even know what they would do with you, but it would be really bad. They would not. Well, this is like comply.
Clay Travis
The gays for Gaza, they would definitely take you for a tour of their. Of their upper deck and then the. Of the. Of the rooftop, and then they would throw you off of it.
Buck Sexton
Well, you know, the American left is unserious about on a global scale, LGBTQIA plus rights because they just. The Muslim world by and large is allowed to do whatever they want. And with. With almost no. With no protest, no nothing. They'll never. Even leftists in America won't even say that The. The mother load of oppression when it comes to gender and LGBTQ and all that. The mother load of it. I mean, the real is the Islamic world. They will never talk about that.
Clay Travis
By the way, as a guy who isn't really, as you pointed out a lot, diehard sports fan, can you believe that that exists? That that audio on a sports broadcast network, that, that video that that would have even occurred. Does that just blow your mind? It blows my mind. Even though I know how crazy these people are, the fact that happened still blows my mind.
Buck Sexton
I think a lot of sports viewers, which I can't speak to be one much, you know, but I think that Clay. They just get. They're just used to just tuning. It's like when actors used to give their opinions on things and I'm like, I just want to see your movie. If it's good, just shut up. I don't want. I feel like a lot of sports viewers have gotten used to and maybe now this is changing. All right. They're doing some, you know, idiotic thing, you know, oh, like what are we going to do? And now just show me my sports. You know, they tune it out.
Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We're going to dive a little more into this subject matter we were just discussing a second ago when it comes to the gender identity issues that the Democrats are pushing forward, including a a sports commentary colleague of Clay's, at least in the same industry, a colleague in the same industry who had quite a comparison between trans women playing sports to make. And Clay is going to play that for you when we come back here in a second. I still, I keep looking at Clay and I ask him this question, I think once every, you know, three or four months or so. I say how is it possible that a sports network like ESPN could have so thoroughly lost its mind considering who its audience is?
Clay Travis
Yeah, it's a question that I've been, I mean that's one I'm glad I started out kick to just kind of because otherwise you're just kind of sometimes feel like you're yelling into the void. And so we have built a really good business to take advantage of the fact that they've lost their minds. But I just, I can't stop thinking about if you're just a parent, you wanted to watch a women's basketball game with your 8 year old daughter and you sit down on your couch and suddenly they're pausing because they're angry about a bill passed in Florida and meanwhile they're building theme parks now in Abu Dhabi. It's crazy.
Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Okay, Buck, tease this our buddy Scott Jennings. We need to get Scott on again sometime soon.
Buck Sexton
Soon.
Clay Travis
Regularly slaying crazy left wing lunatics on cnn. On the Abby Phillips show in the evening, Jemele Hill, who used to work at ESPN and was fired by ESPN for, among other things, saying that Trump was a white supremacist. Kind of an aggressive take for somebody who otherwise is talking about your boy George Pickles getting traded to the Dallas Cowboys. Did you see that this morning, Buck? George Pickens, Pittsburgh Steeler wide receiver this morning, memorably known on this show as George Pickles.
Buck Sexton
Wherever Pickles goes, my loyalty goes.
Clay Travis
That's how you're now a Cowboy fan. You, Carol Markowitz and many tens of millions of people around the around the country and around the world listening to this show right now, probably cowboy fans as well. So now Buck is one of you, you're destined for a lifetime of sadness. But, and I say that as a University of Tennessee football fan who knows a little bit something about a lifetime of sadness and a Titans fan that's not even a, even worthy of sadness.
Buck Sexton
You are getting a fancy new stadium Though I was by our friends from Legacy Box. You're gonna have a real fancy. So you can sit up there in the. In the skybox eating your caviar with your top hat on your monocle while the Titans lose.
Clay Travis
Did the Legacy Box guys buy a suite, do you know?
Buck Sexton
I don't. I don't know. But I just know.
Clay Travis
I hope so. I would. Yeah, now you got me fired up. I've just got regular guy season tickets in the Titan Stadium, and they weren't cheap, so I'm hoping my Legacy Box guys got a sweep because they're in.
Buck Sexton
We're going to a Titans game next year. I didn't know this.
Clay Travis
Well, the new stadium doesn't open until 2027. Okay, Nashville, we're going to get a Super bowl, which is going to be incredible. I think we're going to get the 2029 or 2030 Super bowl, which for a kid who grew up in Nashville, like me, is on. Like, if you had told me when I was a kid, hey, one day Nashville is going to have a Super Bowl, I would have been like, you're crazy. Much less all the different teams that we have now and everything else.
Buck Sexton
Do you think Nashville has had the. Sorry to divert from it. We're going to get back to ESPN craziness really soon here. Has Nashville had the. Of any city in America in the last. Call it 10 years, the biggest hero arc, if you will, or like the, you know, the biggest surge. I mean, I think. I think people put Austin up there, but I think Austin started to. To have some.
Clay Travis
I think. I mean, I'll just tell you, when I went away to the east coast for college in 1997 was when I went off to college and I told people from Nashville that I was from Nashville and on the east coast, west coast, everywhere, they would be like, well, do you guys have indoor plumbing there? Like, that was.
Buck Sexton
I would have wondered if you played the banjo. For sure.
Clay Travis
That's right. People were like, oh, Nashville, that sounds like an awful place. I would say about 10 years ago, probably about 2005, 2006 was when every time I mentioned that I was from Nashville, people would say, oh, that's. I went there. That's one of the most fun cities I've ever visited. And to the point now where I would argue in my lifetime, like in the. Maybe the 21st century is a good way to put it. I'm not sure any city has gone from not very cool in the public perception in 2000 to now considered by 2025. One of the coolest cities in America, then Nashville. It's a good question, like what? Austin is a good example. But I think Austin kind of is faded because I think Austin. They've made some poor choices personally and some of their leadership.
Buck Sexton
Charleston's. Charleston's had a big run. A big run. You know, a lot of people know about and love Charleston. Savannah, a little bit smaller, but same, same idea. My uncle was a cop in Savannah clay in the 90s and it was tough place.
Clay Travis
Well, where you are. Miami, I would argue from 2000 to 2025 has. Miami's maybe the coolest city in America.
Buck Sexton
West Palm. West Palm as well, actually.
Clay Travis
It's just getting exploded.
Buck Sexton
Yeah.
Clay Travis
In a pop. In a positive way. It's a good question.
Buck Sexton
Tampa's had a great run, but as a Miami person, I don't even know anything about Tampa. But you know, sometimes I got to throw a little shade. It's. It's a little bit like Giants jets, you know, it's like, oh, okay. Tampa, the other, the other cool, big.
Clay Travis
City in Florida, I would say, and I know it's been growing rapidly for a long time. The Phenix area has certainly, I think in the last 25 years gotten cooler. And, and, and really there aren't that. I mean, I would say Nashville, Austin, Charlotte, probably Charlotte has come up some in the, in the overall perception. Miami, where you are.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, Miami for sure.
Clay Travis
California cities have lost their, their cachet. Right. And so I think some of those other places, whether it's Las Vegas, Boise, Idaho, Phoenix, where a lot of people from California have moved in the western western United States, I would say have all kind of taken off. There's a lot of people and I haven't spent any time there. I think we got a great affiliate. Oklahoma City is one that I think a lot of people say is a very cool place to live. That in 2000 wouldn't have been considered that cool of a place to be. Columbus, Ohio, I think in the Midwest has been a city that has, you know, kind of popped.
Buck Sexton
And then there's the other. The other side of this equation would be the rapid deterioration places which, I mean, I think, for example, I know we got a big affiliate in Portland. We're in KEX there. Portland's a beautiful city. But yes, communists cause a lot of problems in that city. As, as all of you who live in the area know, Seattle. I haven't even been to Seattle. It's actually the next city that I really want to go to just because I've never Been and I think that's kind of weird. It's supposed to be so beautiful. It's had a rough go last, let's say 10, 15 years, you know, and it used all the really the west coast cities in general, with the exception of San Diego have been on a, I think been on a kind of a negative trajectory because of crime, safety, cost of living stuff.
Clay Travis
Yeah.
Buck Sexton
What happens when Democrats are in charge.
Clay Travis
Which they are entirely Covid totally has played in. Speaking of. So that's a good question. I'm actually curious. No, it's a great question. I'm curious to see the suggestions because we might have missed some places that, that people would, that people would write in.
Buck Sexton
Tell us what you think. I think that's a good, you know and make. What city has had the biggest upswing. I said hero arc, however you want to say it, you know, the biggest, the, the best increase in all good things in the last, we'll call it the last decade or so.
Clay Travis
Well, I think even the fun since the 21st century started. Raleigh would be another city that I would say like the North Carolina area population I mentioned Charlotte has exploded. But yeah, if you had bought stock in a city in 2000, decent sized city. What city has exploded the most in the last 25 years in a positive way? It's a fun discussion. I wanted to play this too. Speaking of fun discussions, Jamel Hill sitting next to Scott Jennings, our friend on cnn, formerly of espn. Jamel Hill Trump is a white supremacist. Jamel Hill, Jamel Hill argued last night trans men, or whatever it is men in women's sports is similar in her mind to Martin Luther King and the civil rights movement. This is the argument she made.
Jemele Hill
Listen, it's bathrooms today, it's sports today, it's sports tomorrow it's the military today.
Buck Sexton
It's also sports today, by the way.
Jemele Hill
Yeah, it is sports.
Buck Sexton
And 80% of Americans agree by that.
Jemele Hill
That's fine. And 80%, guess what? The majority sometimes is wrong. That also happens. Right. Because the majority used to believe that Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Was somebody who was a threat that somebody who was not a good American. The majority of people used to be against civil rights. Were they right? No, they weren't.
Clay Travis
Okay. So I asked Jamelle on Twitter. We'll see if she responds. Buck, based on her analogy there, this has to mean that Lia Thomas, who is formerly Will Thomas, the dude who decided to become a chick and win a women's championship, he has to be the Jackie Robinson of trans sports. I want to Hear how Jamel Hill responds. If the civil rights movement hero in sports is Jackie Robinson, right. The first black baseball player universally beloved, now number 42. Everybody wears it. They have Jackie Robinson day in Major League Baseball. That would mean by her analogy that Leah Thomas is the Jackie Robinson of transports and that one day everyone will pretend to be a fan or will be a fan of Leah Thomas. And I would love to hear her response.
Buck Sexton
I feel like I don't know this, but I could guess this with pretty high certainty that you and Jamil Hill have not seen eye to eye in the sports world on a whole range.
Clay Travis
Of things for some time. And you know what's sad? Liked Jamel before I think Twitter broke her brain. She was actually she's a great example of somebody that could have had an incredible career in sports because I do think she has a sense of humor and she obviously is not an awful communicator if she's on television and had success there. But she got broken by Twitter. I really think she got to the idea that far left wing insanity bonkers Twitter. Like why would a black woman be arguing and trying to make an analogy in a rational way that the civil rights movement is similar to men in women's sports? I mean just from a rationale, leave aside the politics. Would you really want to try to analogize Jackie Robinson and Leah Thomas? Because that's where her clear argument leads itself. And I just think it's broken brain. I think they bought into this idea buck that is so broken that they can't come back from it.
Buck Sexton
Also, what are, what is the next civil. Let's say they won this. Let's say they ended up winning this round at some point. And so we all walk around using they pronouns when told to and you know, and all this stuff which I would note this is the opposite of what the. Of the trajectory of the country recently. But let's say that somehow this, on this 80, 20 or 9010 issue, they were able to, I don't know, turn the tables in a few years and what is the next civil rights struggle? Because you know that there has to be the agitators and the apparatus have to find the next thing. I mean I have, I have some ideas as I've said all along, eventually if they get their way it will be you have to be attracted to trans women as a straight man or else you're a bigot and you're not allowed to demand gender on like dating apps or anything because anything that in the real world breaks from the. These are women, the same as women narrative is forbidden. So this keeps going like it doesn't, it doesn't even stop at sports. It's going to be, hey, you know, you just graduated from college and like you're now on match.com. like are you swiping right on a man or a woman?
Clay Travis
Not a lot of ass if you're not. They're real women. You're a bigot if you're not interested in sleeping with a dude pretending to be a chicken. Yes, that's where it goes.
Buck Sexton
That, that is definitely where it goes. So that's why one thing that we have learned I think pretty thoroughly on the right is the slippery slope is real. And in fact the slippery slope is undefeated. When, when you try to buy off the communists by giving them what they want, they just get to the next demand. And now they're emboldened so they don't understand anything other than stopping them defeating their arguments and shutting down this nonsense. Alright, there's a global summit this July of BRICS nations in Brazil. The bloc of emerging superpowers including Brazil, China, Russia, India and South Africa are meeting with the goal of displacing the US Dollar as the global currency. They're calling this the Rio Reset. If that were to happen, and there's an if in that, then global demand for US dollars will decrease. That will bring down the value of the dollars in your savings account. While this transition won't happen overnight, the Rio Reset marks a pivotal moment when BRICS objectives move from being theoretical to to inevitable. Learn if diversifying your savings into gold like I've been doing for a long time, is right for you. Birch Gold Group can help you move your hard earned savings into a tax sheltered IRA and precious metals claim. Your free info kit on gold by texting my Name Buck to 989898 A + rating from the Better Business Bureau for Birch Gold. Tens of thousands of happy customers let Birch Gold arm you with a free no obligation info kit on owning gold before July and the Rio reset. Text Buck to 98-98-98 today news and politics.
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Buck Sexton
So my wife Clay is if I if I seem at all energetic today, it's because I woke up this morning or you know, I usually wake up around like 7am Woke up and there was not a stir in the house. Nothing. And I went back to sleep for an hour and it was so quiet because My wife is with her parents. She's taken a couple days up there because her mom is, is a super, you know, super mom. So there's like what I can do to help with the baby and then there's what Carrie's mom can do to help with the baby. And I'm just not as, like, I try, I'm just not as adept. I mean, she can just snap her fingers and like everything has changed and everything is clean. The baby is, you know, I don't have that skill set quite the same way. I'm getting better. I can change the diapers and do the things. But I'm in that zone now where I'm. I'm going to try not to change out of the same pajamas for like three days and watch anything that's sci fi or zombie based because Carrie hates that stuff. And, and just, just gonna be me, the dog and junk TV and gluten free pizza. Now that's exciting. Not as exciting though as the little bird chirping in my ear that told me that you, sir, went to a musical last night.
Clay Travis
I am, I am. I don't know how you got tipped off, but I, I've been caught red handed here. Laura, my lovely wife got us tickets to go watch the Michael Jackson musical at T Pac in downtown Nashville with Tennessee Performing Arts Theater. And I went to, I went to watch the Michael Jackson musical. Now I will say, while I am very anti musical, as you all well know, and I do not believe any heterosexual men should go watch musicals, I.
Buck Sexton
Don'T want to interrupt you. Keep going. But I've got big thoughts on this. Go ahead.
Clay Travis
The Michael Jackson musical is basically kind of just a Michael Jackson concert. Right?
Buck Sexton
Okay. Okay. I thought. Right, right there. Did this also on Broadway with the Beatles. A few. There's like a Beatles cover band that was, you know, doing it. Clay, hold on a second. You got kind of a double controversy that you've just walked into here.
Clay Travis
I know.
Buck Sexton
Yes. You going to. I appreciate that Lara is trying to turn you into slightly less of a flip flop wearing philistine. Okay, I get it. Good work, Laura. She wants to culture you a little bit outside of just the sports and legal realms. However. Michael Jackson are we. Where are we on the. I'll be honest with you. I don't. You know, I think that Billie Jean may have been the greatest pop song of its era, like of the, of the 80s. Like I think you can make that argument. I feel weird about the Michael Jackson music now, man. I know. I say, oh, separate the Art from the artist. But, wow, I don't know. How do you feel about that?
Clay Travis
Yeah, I definitely thought, first of all, I think you have to separate the art from the artist too, because the truth of the matter is a lot of people who have made tremendous art throughout human history actually had really dark, awful sides. My wife's argument here, because she pays more attention to this, is Michael Jackson was never convicted of any crime. They tried to convict him, they were unable to do so, and she just doesn't believe it. She thinks that he is scarred because of his relationship with the dad, which is clear. I mean, that, that the dad, the Jackson family dad was his name Joe Jackson, I think, was incredibly abusive of the family and that Michael Jackson really kind of just went into a shell. There's an interesting theory out there. I don't know if you've seen it, but in the Britney Spears era, it maybe has some cogency that a lot of people psychologically, when they become super famous or are forever frozen at the age with which they became famous for the first time time, because their progression as normal humans ceases at that point in time. And I do find it kind of fascinating in that respect. The music is. I mean, Michael Jackson's music is pretty incredible. It really was more like a concert than a Broadway play. But this is a musical. I didn't think I'd go to a musical anytime soon after my attack on.
Buck Sexton
I'm glad you enjoyed it. And that was fine.
Clay Travis
It was good. I didn't dislike it at all. It was a solid performance all around.
Buck Sexton
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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show: "Hour 2 - A Mickey Mouse Plan in Abu Dhabi" Summary
Release Date: May 7, 2025
In the second hour of their Wednesday edition, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve into a range of pressing topics, blending political commentary with cultural critiques. The episode primarily focuses on the recent developments surrounding Disney's expansion into Abu Dhabi amidst ongoing cultural and political controversies in the United States.
Timestamp: [00:36] - [02:01]
Clay opens the discussion by referencing the ongoing conclave to elect the next Pope, highlighting the ceremonial significance of white and black smoke signaling the election's outcome. He muses on his own efforts to understand the conclave process, noting the anticipation surrounding a new papal announcement. Buck reflects on the general Catholic audience's engagement, suggesting that while a significant portion of their listeners may identify as Catholic, detailed knowledge about the candidates among cardinals is limited.
Quote:
Clay Travis [00:36]: "I was doing reading to try to familiarize myself with this process because it's been a little while since we selected a Pope..."
Timestamp: [02:01] - [14:30]
The conversation shifts to Florida's controversial "Parental Rights in Education" bill (HB 1557), commonly mischaracterized as the "Don't Say Gay" bill. Clay and Buck critique the media's portrayal and Disney's corporate response. They emphasize that the bill merely restricts sex and gender instruction for young children, arguing that it aligns with parental preferences and safeguarding children from premature exposure to complex topics.
Buck labels ESPN's live moment of silence during a women's basketball game—a reaction to the bill—as a "pure propaganda operation," highlighting the media's propensity to dramatize issues beyond their actual implications.
Quotes:
Buck Sexton [03:30]: "Can I just also point out the media went full throttle..."
Clay Travis [03:43]: "It was a pure propaganda operation."
Elle Duncan [08:08]: "We're going to pause in solidarity."
Timestamp: [06:37] - [15:04]
Clay brings to light Disney's announcement to build a new theme park in Abu Dhabi, juxtaposing this move against the company's prior stance on LGBTQ+ issues in Florida. He underscores the irony of Disney advocating for parental rights in education while simultaneously engaging in business ventures in regions with severe anti-LGBTQ+ laws, such as the UAE, where homosexuality is punishable by death.
Buck expands on this hypocrisy, contending that progressive ideologies often mask ulterior motives of power dynamics and societal control. He criticizes the left for prioritizing domestic identity politics over addressing severe global human rights abuses.
Quotes:
Clay Travis [06:37]: "Disney is building a theme park in Abu Dhabi where theoretically you could be beheaded if you are gay."
Buck Sexton [10:03]: "With the ideology of the left in America, it's all about power dynamics and who they think they can bully."
Clay Travis [09:39]: "When you wag your finger and lecture all of us in America... and then your company engages in behavior which is far worse..."
Timestamp: [04:56] - [15:24]
The hosts delve deeper into the motives behind introducing gender and sexual education at young ages, asserting that it serves as ideological indoctrination. Buck argues that such practices aim to redefine immutable characteristics, likening the imposition of gender identity concepts to enforcing civil rights in ways that contravene natural human development.
Clay criticizes the left's inconsistency, highlighting the selective application of progressive values domestically while ignoring blatant human rights violations internationally. They express concern over the slippery slope of current policies leading to more intrusive societal controls.
Quotes:
Buck Sexton [04:56]: "It's indoctrination. Because it actually goes to the core ideology, the core of the ideology they're trying to present..."
Clay Travis [09:22]: "The necessity that ESPN must undertake here... it's building theme parks in Abu Dhabi..."
Buck Sexton [14:30]: "The American left is unserious about on a global scale, LGBTQIA plus rights..."
Timestamp: [11:26] - [15:24]
Clay and Buck express astonishment at ESPN's on-air reactions to sociopolitical issues, specifically the forced silence during live sports events in response to legislative changes. They argue that such actions alienate the primary audience—sports enthusiasts seeking entertainment without political interruptions.
Buck suggests that sports viewers, much like moviegoers who prefer to disengage from actors' political opinions, might begin to tune out networks that impose ideological stands during broadcasts.
Quotes:
Clay Travis [15:04]: "I don't think it's... can you believe?"
Buck Sexton [15:24]: "I think that Clay... they just get... Just show me my sports."
Timestamp: [19:30] - [25:56]
The discussion transitions to the evolving reputations of various American cities over the past few decades. Clay highlights Nashville's transformation from an overlooked city to a cultural powerhouse, comparable to Austin's earlier rise. Both hosts mention other burgeoning cities like Miami, Charleston, and Raleigh, noting their growth in popularity and economic development.
They contrast these positive trajectories with the decline of traditionally "cool" cities like Portland and Seattle, attributing the downturn to leftist policies and increased crime rates. The conversation underscores a broader commentary on how political climates influence urban growth and attractiveness.
Quotes:
Clay Travis [21:10]: "The new stadium doesn't open until 2027. Okay, Nashville, we're going to get a Super bowl..."
Buck Sexton [23:12]: "Charleston's had a big run. A big run."
Clay Travis [24:59]: "California cities have lost their cachet."
Timestamp: [25:56] - [30:54]
A significant portion of the episode critiques Jemele Hill's comparison of transgender women athletes to Martin Luther King Jr. and the civil rights movement. Clay deconstructs Hill's analogy, questioning the validity of equating the historic struggle for racial equality with contemporary debates on gender identity in sports.
Buck extends the discussion to the potential slippery slope of current policies, envisioning future societal constraints on personal freedoms related to gender and sexual orientation. They warn of a future where compliance with gender identity mandates permeates various aspects of life, from dating to personal identification.
Quotes:
Jemele Hill [27:01]: "Listen, it's bathrooms today, it's sports today..."
Clay Travis [27:11]: "Lia Thomas... he decided to become a chick and win a women's championship..."
Buck Sexton [30:54]: "That is definitely where it goes... That's why one thing that we have learned..."
Timestamp: [30:54] - [32:26]
Clay briefly touches upon the upcoming BRICS summit in Brazil, emphasizing the bloc's intention to challenge the US Dollar's dominance in the global economy. He warns of the potential "Rio Reset," which could lead to a decreased demand for US dollars, adversely affecting individual savings and the broader economy.
The discussion serves as a segue into their promotional content, emphasizing the importance of diversifying investments as a hedge against potential economic instability.
Quote:
Clay Travis [32:26]: "If that were to happen... This is a pivotal moment when BRICS objectives move from being theoretical to to inevitable."
Timestamp: [15:24] - [37:14]
In a departure from their analytical discussions, Clay and Buck share personal stories, offering listeners a glimpse into their lives. Buck talks about his challenges with parenting and household chores while Clay recounts attending a Michael Jackson musical, despite his reservations about musicals in general. These segments provide a balance to the heavy political discourse, showcasing the hosts' relatability and humor.
Quotes:
Buck Sexton [32:36]: "My wife Clay... changed everything and everything is clean."
Clay Travis [34:30]: "The Michael Jackson musical is basically kind of just a Michael Jackson concert."
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton's episode "A Mickey Mouse Plan in Abu Dhabi" offers a comprehensive critique of corporate hypocrisy, media bias, and progressive ideologies' impact on American society. Through incisive commentary and engaging dialogue, they illuminate the contradictions within influential institutions and advocate for consistency in upholding human rights both domestically and internationally. Personal anecdotes interspersed throughout the episode humanize the hosts, making complex discussions accessible and relatable to their audience.
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