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Leon Nayfak
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran Contra affair.
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Buck Sexton
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do.
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Leon Nayfak
To hear the whole story. Listen to Fiasco Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We're gonna get into the latest deportation plan of the Trump team, which is going to be, I think, really kind of fascinating. There also is a poll up. Do you believe I could make the swim to San Francisco or would I drown, slash be eaten by sharks? Only 8% of people believe I could make the swim. But this is, I just, I, I understand that some of you are elite swimmers out there. I just, I don't think there's any way that I would not be able to make it. Like I could walk 50 miles today if I wanted to. I can just keep going and swimming. I think I would just, you know, take a little break every now and then and then I would keep going. Like I, I, I'm confident I could make this swim. But most of you disagree and there are a lot of flute memes. One of you suggested I could turn my flute into a snorkel. And a lot of you have put me in bathing suit, which is not a flattering.
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Buck Sexton
I am now deluged in my mentions with photos of Clay in a Speedo playing the flute in San Francisco Bay. I was not expecting this.
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Clay Travis
This is funny. Paula Scanlon, who was Leah Thomas, his teammate at the University of Pennsylvania, has now weighed in and said that she and Riley Gaines would be happy to help me train for the for the big swim from Alcatraz. I just know I would get eaten by a shark. I swear. I just feel like this is tempting fate from a shark perspective more than anything else. So amazing responses so far. Lots of talkbacks. Here is Reginald from San Diego who has already weighed in. He says he swam from Alcatraz to San Francisco. Reginald, what did Reginald say? A.A. no claim. Buck.
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Buck Sexton
I have done it. I have swim from Alcatraz in San Francisco. It took about an hour. There was a lot of chop. It was brutal, but it could totally be done. And there were swim teams, you know, high school boys and girls in, you know, speedos doing it. So you don't even have to have a wetsuit. I had one.
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Clay Travis
I would definitely wear a wetsuit. It was really funny if that's true. There were high school swim teams that would just be lapping me the whole way and I might have to be saved. But I feel better about it since Reginald just let me know you guys can weigh in. I wanted to hit this too, Buck, as, as one does. In addition to my incredible ability to swim, which a lot of you are having a great deal of fun with, I saw this from Bill Malugian, speaking of a guy who'd look good in a bathing suit in an incredible transition there. And Bill Belugian this morning broke news that I'm curious to get your reaction to Buck. We played the audio from Kristen Welker at NBC where they were making it clear that the border is more secure than it ever has been before. But we talked or I talked with Tom Holman and we've asked this question. How many people are self deporting? Uh, this morning Malluchin reported that they are going to be willing to pay. Listen to this Buck. For the commercial flights of illegal aliens who self deport and they will give them an additional thousand dollars once they are confirmed to have left the country. This will save American taxpayers 70% as it currently costs DHS on average about $17,000 to arrest, detain and deport someone for the US while paying for the flights. So this would cost way less and it's trying to encourage people to self deport. Our friend Stephen Miller, who was on Friday with us, Buck said the savings are as much as $1 million per illegal alien family, given the long term cost of free welfare and public support. Interesting idea. Do you think it works in any way? Do people say, okay, I'll take this free flight, I'll go back home? Because there is talk that some people are here, don't have the resources to get back to the country that they came from.
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Buck Sexton
I like the idea. I think the number has to be a bit higher, quite a bit higher for people to. And then you do get into this. So now we're going to reward illegal behavior, you know, which, which is what you are doing that. Right. You're rewarding illegal behavior in some way. However, the savings are without question.
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Clay Travis
So.
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Buck Sexton
Okay, well, would we. What's more important, what's best for the country and the taxpayer or that we further. You know, part of the punishment is you have to leave the country. So it's not like people are getting away entirely with the illegal act of entry. But I was. So it's $1,000. They're gonna have to. Those are rookie numbers. I think they're gonna have to pump those numbers up in order to get to where they need to be on this. But one of the big problems, and this is what drives me so nuts when we have these discussions about immigration. One of the big problems that never gets addressed is it is existing immigration, immigration law right now, that you are not allowed to be a public charge. And that includes legal immigrants, I might add.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
You are not supposed to be able to come to this country and be on welfare, period. Because everyone can understand that there's a lot of poor places all over the world. And if people can just get to America and be in a safe place where all their bills are paid and they don't have to do anything, they're going to want to do that. And that's not good for the American people. That's not a fair, a fair bargain for us. But that law, Clay, or that, that part of statute is effectively ignored. And there's all kinds of ways that states and, and even federal programs, but state programs are exploited by illegals to give them welfare. So the savings would be massive. If you could do this, I would say this seems to be a pattern. And remember with the, the buyouts of federal employees, initially it was a very, very small number, but it got a little bit bigger. A little bit bigger. Part of this may be clay, okay, they're not going to self deport right now. But if there are dramatic increases in that deportation number such that people believe there's a realistic chance they could be deported, better to do it on your own terms, on your own schedule and get that thousand bucks. So we'll see.
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Clay Travis
I think the concept in general I actually like because it's giving someone an incentive to return. I also think it. I'm going back to their home country. I also think it helps to address what probably is an issue for some people. To your point, Buck, that they don't have the resources, they are a drain on the country and on our taxpayer dollars. But they get here and they don't want to walk all the way back to South America. And as a result, they may feel like they're trapped here. If they got a free plane flight back home, my concern is that they would leave and then try to come back. Right. And you would hope our southern border is secure enough that that wouldn't happen, but that then we'd be paying for them to go back home on a vacation and then they find a way to get back into the country. That would be somewhat of my concern. But right now nobody seems to be getting in. And so I like this idea. I don't think it's. It harms. Tom Holman told me that they knew that around 5,000 people had self deported based on the CB1 app that they could track. And he thought it was more than that. And so I do think that there's nothing wrong with trying it. And it eliminates, to Stephen Miller's point, what could potentially be a really long process. And Trump, I believe, answered that question from Kristen Welker. Well, everybody is focused on the due process argument, but Trump's claim is very valid. If we have to do millions of due process hearings, there truly is no way to deport these people.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, another thing they could do is say that they will for people who self deport, you know, they'll give them $1,000 and maybe they'll also waive the restriction on being able to legally apply to the country. Now, legally applying to the country would be. That takes a long time and it's, it's not an easy process. But you know, I'm just saying they may try to come up with new incentives to get people to leave and try to come in the legal way. Money is obviously one. But within the process, they may do, they may do some other things. Because right now, I mean, if you overstay your Visa, for example. Example, you're, you're not, you're not able to get another visa and you're not going to be able to become a green card holder. Right? I mean, if you break immigration law and then try to come through the legal system, you have all kinds of problems. But if you're just illegal the whole time.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
Then you just sort of get to go along with it.
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Clay Travis
Here's cut seven. Here's Trump answering that question from Kristen Welker about due process for illegal aliens. Your secretary of state says everyone who's.
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Buck Sexton
Here, citizens and noncitizens, deserve due process. Do you agree? Mr.
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Leon Nayfak
I don't know.
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Clay Travis
I'm not, I'm not a lawyer. I don't know.
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Buck Sexton
Well, the Fifth Amendment, I don't know.
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Clay Travis
It seems, it seems, it might say that. But if you're talking about that, then we'd have to have a million or 2 million or 3 million trials. We have thousands of people that are some murderers and some drug dealers and.
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Buck Sexton
Some of the worst people on earth.
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Clay Travis
But some of the worst, most dangerous people on earth. And I was elected to get them the hell out of here, and the.
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Buck Sexton
Courts are holding me from doing it.
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Clay Travis
This is the essence of this, and this is what we've tried to hammer home to a lot of you. The courts are set up to allow tons of illegal people into this country, and there is truly no mechanism to deport millions of people from this country. The math doesn't add up in terms of how long it takes to get those people out. Democrats know it. That's why they opened up the southern border. They knew if 20 million, which is the number Tom Holman gave me, 20 million illegals are here in four years. Let's say that Trump is able to deport a million people, 95% of the people that are illegally here are still here. And then Democrats come in, if they win in 2029, take the oath of office, you know what they'll do? Buck immediately change the immigration laws and open back up the southern border and allow millions of more people in here, here. And that's, that's the challenge we're in. We have a system where they can all come here and our courts don't allow us right now to get them all out. And I like Trump's answer here because I do think it's time. How would you answer that question structurally, do 20 million illegal immigrants that shouldn't be here, that we know are not citizens, do they deserve to have hearings in front of all of our courts? There's no way that we could do that unless somehow we just. And maybe this is something they're thinking about. Unless Trump issues an executive order and makes like 100,000 new immigration judges and all they do is hold these hearings, basically stamp it and they're gone. That's. That to me is the only possible way is if you had a special court in some way put in place that only focused on illegal immigration and you could have these hearings basically around the clock at all times, because otherwise there's no way to comply in our current judiciary with due process rights as currently applied, that would lead to these people ever being forced out of the country.
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Buck Sexton
I think part of the outrage over this too is that we've all seen that the decision, it was a decision to let in the illegals under Biden in the first place. They didn't want to stop it. They actively decided to do this. So it's not a problem that Trump has inherited that everybody wishes didn't happen. It was active sabotage of our sovereignty by the Democrats. This was the choice made by the Democrat Party and we all understand why they think that the more illegals who come in, the more people will be dependent on the state and the taxpayer resources and redistribution and the welfare state in America will essentially turn it into a one party state when you pile in enough people from the third world who are going to need and desire state resources. So that's, that's the plan, right? That's what they've been running with. And in the meantime, we say, okay, fine, but you can't have people in the system who say the rule of law means that the law can be violated endlessly, but nobody can be punished for violating the law. Can't be the system. I mean, they can say whatever they want about this or that statute. But that's, there's a, there's a, there's an in principle rejection of that clay that I think is going on. And that's what's different now. They can point to whatever statute, a statute they want. They ignored the statutes that should have kept out the 15 million illegals who piled in under Biden. And now they want rule of law. You know, they created an emergency. You don't get to create an emergency and then say, hold on a second. You got to, you know, you got to give us proper and due notice before you do anything about it. It's like the house is burning down and you guys lit, you guys lit the match. And through the kerosene on the floor, we're not sitting around debating how we put the fire out with you. So that I think is the proper attitude about this and that's what needs to happen going forward. Look, if you want to empower yourself with a self protection tool or a whole range of those tools, Sabre is the number one choice out there and their pepper spray is the most trusted by law enforcement. Their pepper spray gel is a perfect example of the quality of the products that Saber makes. And look, the pepper projectile launcher they have is the best in the industry once you see this. Clay and I have tried them out. We have Saber products in our own homes and both of our wives like to have non lethal options if we're out of the house and they want to be able to defend themselves. They want to be able to handle an intruder. A lot of people like to have forced escalation opportunities so that means non lethal and lethal in the home. But some people just want that non lethal. Sabre has you covered. Sabers products are all found on their website saberradio.com where you go s a b r e radio.com you decide for yourself and your family what's best to protect yourself. And look, I think Sabre products are exactly what you should have. Go to sabre radio.coms a b r e radio.com you'll save 15%. Or if you just want to call on the phone, tell them what you want, they can have them sent to you. 844-824 safe that's 844-824 safe. Stories of freedom, Stories of America.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Podcast Host
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Leon Nayfak
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.
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Buck Sexton
Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?
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Clay Travis
No.
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Leon Nayfak
It became known as the Iran Contra Affair and I'm not taking any more questions.
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Buck Sexton
In just a second I'm going to ask.
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Leon Nayfak
I'm Leon Naifak, co creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.
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Buck Sexton
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane I can't begin to tell you. Please do.
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Leon Nayfak
To hear the whole story. Listen to Fiasco Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. You know Clay, we had Formula One down here in Miami this weekend and I did not I did not make it this time. I got to go last year. I know you are a big sportsman. Are you a car racing man?
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Clay Travis
So I've been to NASCAR races. I haven't ever been to an F1 race. And I'm going to the Indy 500 this year, which I'm told is a pretty incredible experience. But I don't know anything about race car driving very much in general. So, like, I'll be watching it purely for the party element, and I'm excited for that, but it's not like I'm going to be watching it embedded in the nuance of the race itself, if that makes sense. I'm not going to be the guy who is analyzed. I can watch baseball, basketball, football pretty well and understand the larger strategy at play, the decisions that are being made. No idea in. In the race universe, but I know it's turned into a huge deal in Miami. And did you see all those influencers that. That were on the Lamborghini boat that sank? Did you see this story?
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Buck Sexton
I did.
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Clay Travis
That is.
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Buck Sexton
I did see.
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Clay Travis
That is vintage Miami. They had all these cute girls on a boat that was made for, I think, five people. And they put 30 on it, these influencer girls. The boat started to sink. What did they do? They recorded the boat sinking and posted it on Instagram. And now they're all going to make money. And they evidently saved an expensive bottle of tequila to the guy, the fat guy. I bet he's a fat guy who owned the boat. Probably not happy, but he should have known better than to. Than to put 30 girls on the. On the boat. They were there for F1, and the boat just sank right in the harbor in Miami. Now, if I had been on the boat, I would have been an excellent swimmer, gotten right back to land. These girls had to be rescued.
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Buck Sexton
I think if you have to swim from Alcatraz to land or go and do your best in going 180 miles an hour, just cold in one of those F1 cars. Which one do you do?
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Clay Travis
Well, I think you have to be able to gear shift, and so I don't even think I could get to 180. Right. I mean, you don't just get to put, drive and go.
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Buck Sexton
The CIA taught me how to drive stick, but I haven't done it since then. So I probably.
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Clay Travis
I mean, I drove stick back in the day, but I think the race car stick is more challenging than the normal stick.
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Buck Sexton
My brother's laughing at both.
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Clay Travis
The CIA taught you how to drive a stick shift, I expect. I. I Just reiterate that I expected you to be a more aggressive driver. I didn't expect you to be, you know, misd.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Jesse Kelly, in addition to Riley, who now says that I have to come to San Francisco and attempt to swim. Uh, she says they go out with a boat, they drop us off, kayaks are there. I asked if there was somebody who could rescue me if I started to drown. And Jesse Kelly has weighed in and said. What did he say? Don't listen to the haters, Clay. You can do this and you should absolutely try, which is a very good thought. You know, one. One thing I'm thinking, Buck, can you imagine if I put a live webcam on, like, my head, like my forehead, and you had a live vision of me attempting. You probably hear it, too.
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Buck Sexton
We could be on to something. Just think of all the money we could raise for Penalta Towers or, you know, a lot, a lot of money for a really good cause.
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Clay Travis
You know, I will say, if I made the swim, I think Trump might have to revoke his idea of turning Alcatraz into a prison because it's supposed to be unescapable, right? If a fat, out of shape person like me can swim from Alcatraz to San Francisco Bay, then I think the three guys that vanished, they made the swim. And I think he would have to rescind his decision to try to turn it into a prison. In addition to the fact that we potentially could raise a lot of money for charity, I also think that I could prove that it is not an inescapable prison if I made it now, if I drown, then maybe Trump would be like, hey, we're, you know, we're going to reopen Alcatraz and one of the jail cells will name after Clay. This will be the Travis Wing of Alcatraz Island. In honor of his untimely death, I will say, grok, a bunch of you have been sharing this. It is a myth. And this is inevitably going to blow up in my face because I'm going to get eaten by a shark if I try to do this. But it is. And then this will go mega viral. And this will be the only thing people remember from my entire life. It is a myth so far that lots of people are getting eaten by sharks in San Francisco Bay. In fact, it's never happened. Now also, there's not a lot of people, to be fair, who are in the water on a regular basis, I would imagine, in the San Francisco Bay area because the water is cold and the beaches are not particularly fabulous. But it has never occurred in San Francisco Bay that someone has been eaten by a shark. Kara from Kentucky has a talk back. Kara. Bb what do we got here? Clay, I think you're great, but I think you're way overconfident when it comes to your swimming ability. Swimming is a tough sport. My son's high school team has won the state championship here in Kentucky for the past 30 plus years.
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Buck Sexton
I'd like to invite you to come.
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Clay Travis
To one of his practices. If you can make it through that, you'll have my vote for Alcatraz. I think I could make it through. The problem is I would be like me going to a elite high school teams practice. I, I mean, I would have to be there for like eight hours because they're going to do 20 laps or whatever and it's going to take them like three and a half minutes and then it takes me an hour. So I just, I don't think, I do not think I would drown. I think I could always stay above the water. And I think if I could stay above the water long enough, eventually I would get to shore. Now, the one part of the calculus here that I'm not confident about is what are the currents like, in other words, like, would it sweep me further out? But the bay is not that big, so I would think it would sweep me from one side to the other. In other words, surely I would hit land at some point or one of the buoys underneath the Golden Gate Bridge, which is way far away, or the Bay Bridge, which is also far away, because I don't want to Go out to open water, but you're in the bay. So I just think at some point, if you just stayed upright, eventually you would maybe die of hypothermia. But if you didn't die of hypothermia, I think you would end up on land. I mean, bottles that get thrown into the ocean eventually end up on land. You just got to not drown in the meantime. And I don't think I would drown. I think I could stay above the water. How much confidence do you have that I could make it? How much would you have? You just said we have to raise the amount of money we're willing to pay the guys to fly. Like a thousand dollars. We. Our friend Garduski said they're offering $35,000 in Sweden. How much? What odds would you have to get for me to be able to make it, not to be rescued? 10 to 1.
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Buck Sexton
This is. So it's a mile. Is that right? It's a mile swim total?
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Clay Travis
I think so, yeah.
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Buck Sexton
That's not. That's not that bad. I mean, the Statue of Liberty is two miles from Manhattan, so that's. That's considerably more.
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Clay Travis
I mean, do people swim back and forth in the Statue of Liberty? Is that what Will Kane and Hegseth did? Was that the Navy SEAL swim they did?
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, yeah. No, you look, you. You'd make it. The only thing that might get you would be the. I think either the currents or the cold. The shark thing is just. Is just a thing in your head to scare you, but which obviously would.
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Clay Travis
By the way, work, because when you're, like, halfway back and you're a long way from the shore, you're definitely going to be expecting to get eaten by a shark.
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Buck Sexton
The funny thing about. About. I've. I've spent, like, way too much time. I think a lot of us have different fascinations, you know, with. With scary, scary things when we're kids or whatever. And sharks is something I've read a lot of. Shark attacks, something I've read a lot about when I was a kid. Kid. You know what's interesting is that you're right. Statistically, you're. You're very, very safe from shark attack. However, sharks are far more present around people than they ever realize. And now, because of drone technology, people are starting to see that.
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Clay Travis
Oh, yeah, that's right.
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Buck Sexton
There's a lot of times where there's a. You know, a hundred people will be at a beach. They're all in the ocean, splash around, having a great time. And just beyond the surf Break about, you know, 30, 40 yards. There'll be some big tiger sharks or something swimming around out there. So sharks are much more present in the environment than a lot than we realize because you generally don't see them, right? You generally have no idea. So that's kind of a funny thing, right? On the one hand we're more scared of them than we should be, but on the other hand, they're far more present than we recognize them to be.
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Clay Travis
Have I told you my shark story? Have I told this, this audience the shark story?
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Buck Sexton
This is, I don't know, we gotta, we gotta talk about the economy, Clay.
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Clay Travis
Okay, Economy is going to be fine. When I. Trump's got it. I was seventh grade, Panama City beach church mission trip, Panama City Beach, 1990. Not a very nice place. This is like a bunker that we're staying in for the church retreat. We have a Jet Ski rented. It's like a 19 year old kid with a jet Ski who was like one of the chaperones. He's taking us out one at a time on the Jet Ski and we get out on the Jet Ski and jet Skis back in like 1990 used to tip over all the time and it was really hard back in the day to get back on a Jet Ski. Now it's actually comparatively easy. They maintain and hold itself well. Two of us, it was very difficult. So he's back on and suddenly this light guard comes roaring up on his own jet ski and he says, everybody off the beach. We've spotted tiger sharks in the area. 100% true seventh grade, ways out on the ocean, Jet Ski, Panama City Beach. And the guy who is the 19 year old is like, hey, we can't get back up because we keep tipping, tipping over. So he's on, he says, I'll just drag you in, says I will drag you back into the shallows. We got to make sure you don't get eaten by a tiger shark. This is maybe the greatest bait that's ever existed for tiger shark. I'm hanging on to the back of the Jet Ski. The exhaust is just pouring, you know, right in my face. I'm 12 and as it's pouring off buck, my swimsuit comes off. So the whole beach covered with like 12 and 13 year old girls and I am hitting the waves, mooning the entirety of Panama City Beach, Florida. This would have gone certainly mega viral in the day when everybody has their. Well, I guess maybe not because like.
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Buck Sexton
A shark like shark repellent. This is good. The shark's not going to Mess with you.
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Clay Travis
Now I'm thinking to myself, all these cute girls are on the beach and now I'm naked and I'm also going to get eaten by a shark. This is maybe the worst way for a 12 or 13 year old boy to go out ever in the history of mankind. I get, by the way, by the grace of God, I managed to hook my bathing suit on my right ankle. So the webbing of the bathing suit, so I managed to hang on to that for dear life on the right ankle. I get dropped off and, and I'm like, you know, naked in the water, trying to get my swimsuit on and everybody's panicked on, on the beach because there's tiger sharks. Everybody is fleeing the beach and somehow I have managed to create this huge scene. People are expecting me to get it eaten. So I've been, you know, kind of in fear of, of sharks, even more so ever since that day. So I think, you know, after having.
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Buck Sexton
Overcome that, I, after that story, I think now you definitely have to do the Alcatraz swim just, just for your, your own dignity. You know, I feel like, well, a.
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Clay Travis
Wetsuit'S harder to get ripped off. I would think so. If I'm in a wetsuit, I think I would be okay. But that's a true story. If you're listening right now and you were on Panama City beach in June of 1990 or so and you saw a kid mooning the whole beach, that was me. Now you're listening to me on the radio. So I survived. That is probably a story that you didn't expect to hear today. Buck, when you started off, when you started off the day, it's.
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Buck Sexton
I did not. And here we are. And let me think of what we could transition.
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Clay Travis
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Podcast Host
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Leon Nayfak
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.
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Buck Sexton
Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?
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Clay Travis
No.
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Leon Nayfak
It became known as the Iran Contra affair and I'm not taking any more questions.
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Buck Sexton
In just a second I'm going to ask.
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Leon Nayfak
I'm Leon Nayfak, co creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.
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Buck Sexton
The things that happened were so Bizarre and insane. I can't begin to tell you. Please do.
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Leon Nayfak
To hear the whole story. Listen to Fiasco Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Sexton
Question about this. And Clay, she was. I think a vote probably for you would make it, but I think you'd be quite haggard after this. I think that you would be. You'd have a tough one.
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Clay Travis
Grandma Judy said we are the cure for depression. She said she would giggle too much to come on the air. She just wanted that message to be packed along. Oh, that's passed along, by the way. Very nice from Grandma Judy. Breaking news, actually in the Oval Office. This is going to trigger a lot of people. Trump has just announced that the 2027 NFL Draft will take place in Washington, D.C. that he will help host it and that it will be on the National Mall. Roger Goodell, the commissioner of the NFL in the Oval Office right now, along with the owner of the Washington Commanders. They'll always be the Redskins, to me is really.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, this is literally help host the NFL draft.
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Clay Travis
While he's, I mean, I'm assuming he'll be there showing up and announcing. I mean, I would be stunned if they're doing it on the National Mall. If he's announcing it right now, I would think he'd probably announce a pick which will drive everybody bonkers. But we'll play that video for you. It's legit happening right now as we are, as we are speaking.
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Buck Sexton
I guess maybe I'll end up actually watching an NFL draft at some point. What, what happened? Have they, have they calmed down about.
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Clay Travis
The, the fellow Sanders?
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Buck Sexton
Mr. Shedeur, very sad. I'm supposed to be for this Shador fellow. I don't, I don't.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, he went about it to the Cleveland Browns in the fifth round. It does seem that everybody has basically calmed down. But I will say, you know this. You've learned it doing the show with me. Buck. The sports media is going to lose their minds over Roger Goodell, the commissioner of the NFL being present at the White House. For Trump to announce that the NFL draft is taking place and that basically he'll be, I mean, you know, on the mall. I would be stunned. I would be stunned, Buck, if he's not announcing some picks or engaged in some way in a monster fashion. I mean, it's right there in front of the White House.
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Buck Sexton
I think it's taken so long for us to get to this point that we don't really even, we're not processing it necessarily or enjoying it as much as we should, which is that the era of, of just companies and organizations feel like they are free to or feel compelled to always kind of stick a thumb in the eye of anybody who's conservative or on the right or Republican. I really think that it's. If it hasn't come to an end, it's certainly a fraction of what it used to be. I mean, it's a. There's been such a tremendous change here where companies, I think, at least recognize that they can't get away with it anymore. So maybe they still want to do it. I'm not saying everyone's changed their minds, obviously. I know a lot of people voted for Kamala and all that, but whether it's Clay, I mean, look at the sports stuff. I remember when there, when, when the wokeness in sports, even I was paying attention because it was everywhere. And, you know, whether it was, you know, the BLM stuff and everything else, it's, it's gone right now. Maybe we're just at a lull, but it seems to have at least temporarily evaporated. And I think it's such, it's such a good thing.
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Clay Travis
No, it's totally a different world. I mean, the Philadelphia Eagles just visited the White House. I think this is an interesting way to kind of bring it home for people to. Now, some players didn't go, whatever scheduling conflicts. They may not like Trump, but the team itself went. Coaches, owners, a lot of the players, and they were in the White House celebrating their super bowl championship, and they didn't go. In 2018, they refused the president's invitation to visit the White House. Now, maybe an NBA team or a WNBA team is not going to be willing to go to the White House. We'll see how that plays out. But the rest of sports has just kind of returned to normalcy. And if you told people, I don't know, eight years ago, when Trump was ripping Colin Kaepernick for not standing for the national anthem, that one day the commissioner of the NFL, same commissioner who was there then, Roger Goodell, would be showing up in the Oval Office to shake hands and celebrate with Trump. The national NFL draft coming to the National Mall. I think a lot of people would have, would have called you crazy. Yet that clip is out. We will play it for you when we come back. But first, I think we're going to be joined by Nicole Parker of the FBI to talk about the, the change that's occurred in the FBI since Cash Patel came into office.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, the change in, in wokeness in the federal law enforcement, right? Nicole Parker, former FBI agent, Fox News contributor. She'll be with us here in just a few minutes.
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Podcast Host
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- [43:39]
Leon Nayfak
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran Contra Affair.
- [43:51]
Buck Sexton
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do.
- [44:00]
Leon Nayfak
To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Podcast Host
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