Donald Trump (3:07)

I think it's great.

Buck Sexton (3:08)

Has he talked to you about the fact that he thinks because they let Biden get away with everything when he was in office, they started to push him. They came after you like crazy.

Donald Trump (3:17)

At length. I talked to him about it. He's a good guy. I didn't really know him in the first time.

Buck Sexton (3:21)

Yeah.

Donald Trump (3:22)

I mean, it's such a difference between now and the first.

Buck Sexton (3:24)

Yeah.

Donald Trump (3:25)

Zuckerberg and Bezos and Jensen, who's fantastic.

Buck Sexton (3:29)

I know you helped outkick, had a story, a couple of interviews that we did that were being edited that they worked out and they figured out on Facebook through Zuckerberg. What has Bezos told you about trying to be more fair in his coverage?

Donald Trump (3:42)

Just that, yeah, he's really trying to be more fair. They actually did a couple of bad articles at him. He said, this is crazy. Yeah, I lose my fortune. Interesting. And they. And they, you know, they're out of control, these people. Crazy. They're. They're crazy people. They're out of control. And. And he's actually a very good guy. I got to know him the second time he was up. If you look at the inauguration, look at the people that were on amazing stage. There was a lose who of a world that was totally against me the first time. It's a much different presidency and much more support.

Buck Sexton (4:15)

Okay. I think that is really kind of important here. Buck crazy people. Jeff Bezos has told Trump that the Washington Post is being run by crazy people. This is according to Trump, and I think it has to be true. If you just look at the actions that Jeff Bezos has undertaken to suddenly try and corral the crazy town of the Washington Post. And I think it's reflective. At the end, he talked about the cultural change. It's seismically different. Right. We're not even seeing the Democrats or the legacy media able to really line up and do anything to stop Trump. And in fact, some of the people that were the biggest roadblocks, like the Washington Post And Jeff Bezos are now kind of getting on board the Trump train.

Clay Travis (5:06)

Well, where were they going to go after what they had been promising their, their side, their audience for years? I mean, what, what do you say at this point? You have to remember, we would, we would pop in and out. We would read the occasional. I, I know you're a New York Times subscriber. I was a New York Times subscriber. I'm trying to get away from it. But we're not as steeped in all of the editorials and all of the coverage that those papers were doing of Trump the whole time, because we have other things we have to read. And also, at some point, there's only so much propaganda that you can stomach. But imagine that you have been fed this steady diet of. Trump is going to get crushed in these trials. Trump is going to end up, you know, sentenced for these, these criminal wrongdoings. Trump maybe is going to be financially ruined. That was another thing they thought they would accomplish in New York with that absurd Letitia James, you know, corporate fraud trial. And, and all of that came to nothing. In fact, it elevated, I think, Trump to make sure that he was going to win the presidency dramatically because people saw what was going on. So they're, they're in total rebuild mode. I mean, this is, this is the time when the Democrat Party is trying different things to come up with some way to justify its existence to the people who have been supporting it for this long, which is why you have the Bernie and AOC traveling show going on right now. You know, they're going around together and trying to raise money and all of this stuff. But I think that Trump part, you know, Clay, you said this, and I believe, believe this is important. There's something from your interaction with him this time. There's a poise and a calm and a, almost a sense of relaxation that Trump has, he has defeated the enemy. I mean, you know, if you think of the media as the primary enemy, he won. There's no way that that ever changes. Now. He goes out a winner no matter what. And part of his legacy will be the destruction of, of the media manipulation machine that the Democrats had relied on for our entire adult lives until Trump came along. For our entire lives, not just adult lives.

Buck Sexton (7:18)

I also, I've seen Trump say this recently, Buck. I hadn't heard it before. Cut 14 here. He talked about prevailing to what you're saying against the lawfare, against him. But he said that his initial read, when the, when the raid at Mar A Lago happened Was that it was going to be really bad for his presidential campaign. And then he decided, well, I've got to just roll with it. Listen to cut 14 here.

Donald Trump (7:48)

When they attacked Mari or they attacked Mars. Yes, they invaded it. I said, oh, boy, this is brutal for my election.

Buck Sexton (7:56)

You thought initially it was going to be bad.

Donald Trump (7:57)

I thought so. The one thing I did is I talked in the press. I had this conference. Whenever anything like that happened.

Clay Travis (8:04)

He.

Donald Trump (8:04)

These were crooked people, 100% crooked. When they did something like that. Or the indictment. But the indictment, not one indictment. It's four or five of them. Okay. And that led to 80 or 90 or. Because everyone had, you know, it was a totally rigged deal. I would go out that night and I'd have a news conference. I'd talk to the people. And the people realized it was a scam. It turned out to be a scam. Look what happened. And they're all out here. I said in air Force One with you talking one of those things, it.

Buck Sexton (8:40)

Is kind of remarkable where we are. One more thing. I asked him, Buck, whether he thought Kamala should run for governor and if he had any advice he would give her. Here was Trump on Kamala's future. Cut to Kamala's talking about running for governor. Would you give her any advice as a politician? Do you think she should run? Do you think she's gonna do it? What do you think her future is?

Donald Trump (9:05)

I'd let her run as far as. I don't want to be giving people advice politically, but one thing she's got to do. She's got to start doing interviews.

Clay Travis (9:14)

Yeah.

Donald Trump (9:15)

I mean, you can't get away with both of them. He. During the COVID things, he did no interviews. And he got away with it because of COVID because, you know, you were able to do things that you couldn't do. It was a great election this last. And I do think this. I think it's much more historic the way it happened than if I had gone.

Buck Sexton (9:36)

And typically, don't you think in some way it's better because you have the Senate and the house now in 24, you're able to be more effective than you would have been in 20.

Donald Trump (9:44)

Probably it's better because it shows how bad they were. Yeah, they were so bad, and it shows that. And when you see, you know, you're comparing. You're comparing it to the worst president in the history of our country. And I think in that way, it's better there. What they were doing didn't work. And if I would have done it more traditionally, you know, we wouldn't have known that.

Buck Sexton (10:06)

Okay, so those cuts, you can listen up on, up on clay and Buck. But I do think the biggest takeaway is he is just reveling in it. Buck, in a way, to your point, he beat his enemies. I got to tell you, when we walked out at the NCAA wrestling championships, which I don't remember anybody ever really talking about that much, I mean, he brought the attention with him, the entire place, standing ovation, chanting, usa. It's now happened at the Super Bowl. It's now happened at the Daytona 500. It's now happened at the wrestling championships. Men who are overwhelmingly sports fans, I know a lot of you are women sports fans as well, but men are behind Trump at a level that I haven't seen in a very, very long time. Buck. I haven't seen anything like this. The reception.

Clay Travis (10:56)

Yes. Well, I can remember in previous Republican administrations, including Trump's first, but going back to the Bush years, it was a state of siege, day one, right away, and they had a lot more artillery than we did. They had a lot more voices who would come in and tell you all these different reasons why this new admin, you know, this new Republican or this, this new, new administration is terrible for X, Y and Z. And, you know, they're, in the case of Bush, you know, he's dumb and Cheney's corrupt, and all these things that they would say and put aside, whatever you think of the specific criticisms, they were able to turn the mood of the country sour intentionally. As a manipulative as a Republican was in charge. This is the first time I've ever seen it where they just can't do it. They know they can't do it. They no longer have the power. They no longer have the ability to create some story out of thin air that, that makes everyone think that there's some doom hanging over the country because of the Republican that is in office right now. As people have been saying, you know, the vibes are, the vibes are strong right now in Trump world. Things are looking good. There's a lot of challenges ahead, and we're very aware of that. There's a lot of things that still need to be. We're just in the opening inning. I mean, there's a lot that needs to be done. But this is, I've never seen anything like this before. It's like the, the, the Democrat media apparatus has been defanged still there, but it just doesn't have the same ability that it used to. And I think Trump Recognized Trump not only recognizes that Clay Trump is the reason for that they threw, they exhausted themselves like a boxer who's thrown so many punches and missed that eventually he just falls to the canvas. They exhausted themselves trying to destroy Trump and now it's over for them.

Buck Sexton (12:43)

I thought it was interesting when he said that he thought the initial raid, and I think he called it, you know, the attack on Mar? A Lago was going to be really successful for them because I think you and I are initial, because I remember when this happened, you and I's initial take was we know this is going to be good for Trump with Republicans because people are going to rally around him. I think as soon as they raided Mar? A Lago, effectively the Republican nomination was over. I think what he did a masterful job of was spinning it such that the middle of the road voter came to come down on his side as opposed to the Biden team side. And I think that's where using the media and talking every day was ultimately to his benefit in a way that I don't think it was clear it would be right. Democrats basically thought this will make him unelectable. They ended up being wrong. It actually I think got him elected and blew up in their faces.

Clay Travis (13:40)

Yeah, well, they, they believe that all these things that they would do would make him unelectable. Think about it's the biggest political own goal in history. I've never seen anything like this. No one's ever seen anything like this. To have used all the powers of the abused powers of the prosecutorial arm of the government, of the media apparatus, of the Democrat power in Hollywood and the culture to try to destroy someone and actually make them even more unstoppable is something that no, nobody could have anticipated. So it is the most remarkable political comeback in the history of, I think the history of the country. I mean, you have to go back to like George Washington holding together the army at Valley Forge for something that really is so defying the odds, it's pretty remarkable. And I think that Trump now is realizing that he's able to pursue the agenda in a way where no matter what the left says or does at this point, he won. And now it's just what can he do for the country? It really is about what's best for the country now and not how do I keep the wolves at bay so I can do the best for the country. There's still some of that, I get it, but totally different. The White House in the first term, I remember I friends were friends with a lot of people that were Trump's circle in that White House and it was, they were under siege the whole time. And it was a very different world. People were worried they were going to get sent to prison. People were worried that, you know, maybe Trump was going to get impeached or he was impeached. But, you know, before it happened, they were concerned. What does that mean? And it has just been an astonishingly positive thing for the country. I think, Clay, that the lawfare failed. If lawfare had worked, I don't really know if we have. I don't really know if we're operating in a free country anymore with real elections. I really think that that's a big, a big win for all of us.

Buck Sexton (15:38)

It would have set the precedent. You always try to put your chief political adversary in prison for the rest of his life or her life if you're in a position of power, which is what happens in banana republics and how they end up collapsing. Because. Because if it works, that's what happens, you know.

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Clay Travis (18:47)

Just want to say something here. The president doesn't like Hamilton, which, meaning the Broadway show, so. So Trump and I aligned on that. And also I told you. And people were, oh, Buck, why are you such a sour puss? Like the JFK files. There's nothing in the files. Trump described it as largely unspectacular in his exclusive interview with our own Clay Travis aboard Air Force One. This is cut 10. Play it.

Buck Sexton (19:12)

You released the JFK files. Do you think Oswald killed JFK?

Donald Trump (19:17)

Personally, I do. And I always held that. Yeah, of course he was. Was. He helped. And based on the papers, you know, we released 88,000.

Buck Sexton (19:26)

I know.

Donald Trump (19:27)

And in fact, there were some that they needed a little more time just. And we should go over to the office. We'll show you. So nobody could say they've been released. I think the papers have turned out to be somewhat unspectacular.

Buck Sexton (19:40)

Yeah, I think that's true.

Donald Trump (19:41)

All right. And maybe that's a good thing.

Clay Travis (19:44)

I don't.

Buck Sexton (19:45)

Oh, Bock.

Clay Travis (19:46)

The CIA killed Kennedy. Stop believing Oliver Stone. Conspiracy theories, everybody. It's nonsense.

Buck Sexton (19:52)

I did ask him. Maybe we'll play this when we come back. I asked him whether he thought the shooter in Butler, Pennsylvania, acted alone and whether as he released all the JFK files, he's kind of contemplated how close he came to getting killed. Buck I was at Bedminster on Saturday and I met with a bunch of Trump's buddies up there and they said they still couldn't get over the fact the day after he came, within a quarter inch of getting his head blown out, blown off, they found him just hitting golf balls at the, at Bedminster the next day. Just chilling. The guy is built different. I think that's fair to say. Save money every month on your cell phone service bill when you switch to PureTalk from Verizon, AT&T or T Mobile. Both of our families rely on PureTalk. For just 25 bucks a month, you can get unlimited talk text, 5 gigs of data on America's most dependable 5G network. And to give you a perspective on what that can mean, the average sized family of four can save $1,000 a year when they switch to PureTalk. Thanks to PureTalk's US customer service team, you can switch hassle free in as little as 10 minutes. You can even keep your phone and your same phone number using your cell phone. Right now, dial 250-say-the keywords Clay and Buck to make the switch and you'll save an additional 50% off your first month. Again, dial £250, say Clay and Buck to start saving today. I trust Pure Talk with my family. You can trust it with your own. Save a bundle. £2 50 say clay and buck. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We're rolling through the Monday edition of the program. We're playing some cuts thanks to Caroline Levitt. I was on Air Force One over the weekend, talked to President Trump surrounding a lot of sports related questions. They wanted to hit sports, which is why I was at the NCAA wrestling tournament with the President. But you just played. I thought it was a good answer. The rfk sorry, the JFK files being released. I also asked the President about whether he felt like the shooters acted alone when they tried to kill him both in Butler and then he wanted to Talk about the other guy. Also at West Palm Beach. It's amazing. Those stories to a large extent have vanished since Trump won the election. But it was only six, eight months ago that we all had within a quarter inch. The President nearly killed multiple times. Here he was explaining cut 11 about whether he felt the investigations were trustworthy and whether the shooters acted alone. Do you think back now it's only been eight months since Butler, Pennsylvania. Do you think that guy acted alone based on what you've seen, that crazy man? And do you think back to your connection now to jfk, because thank the Lord he missed. But people for the next hundred years would have been talking about that like we talk about jfk.

Donald Trump (22:49)

It might be. Anyways, I can't really be sure. I really can't. I'm sure because it bothers me that he had three apps and two of them were foreign. And maybe it was more apps to. Yeah, and it bothered me that the other guy had like 18 phones. I thought it was six, but it was 18. And the FBI is being very straight with me, I believe, and I think they weren't at the beginning, but now I think they were. They told me a lot about the case. I think maybe it won't be able to be determined, but I don't believe it's, you know, it's something sinister by the FBI. The FBI is doing a good job and Cash is going to do a great job.

Buck Sexton (23:37)

So, Buck, it is kind of crazy. And again, a lot of people didn't focus on this. We did. The FBI was simultaneously trying to put Trump in prison for the rest of his life and also supposed to be investigating who tried to kill him. It was an untenable conflict. Now he's got Cash Patel in and he feels confident that he's going to get the truth with Cash Patel and Dan Bongino, who are the 1 and 2 at the FBI. But isn't it sort of extraordinary that the two men, one of them is dead, but the other individual who tried to kill Trump, we still know very, very little about their overall motivations. And especially the Butler, Pennsylvania guy came within a quarter inch of forever altering the trajectory of world history.

Clay Travis (24:24)

Well, you've noticed that there's this trend within the national security apparatus or the law enforcement and national security apparatus still don't really know about the. Well, we don't know. The Trans manifesto from the Nashville domestic terrorist school shooter. Right, we don't. We. We don't. We're not allowed to know about that. We still don't know very Much about the Las Vegas mass shooter, mass murderer, we don't know very much about this or the other would be Trump assassin, I might add. And when it is someone who does something terrible, who puts the media in a position to blame Trump, which again, would be hard for people trying to assassinate Trump. Right. But when it's somebody who is, you're able to blame Trump for the violence in some way. We know, you know, we know what they were having for lunch when they were in kindergarten. You know, everything about. About them. And that just goes to how much more interested the media is in getting information out, if not because it's in the public interest, broadly speaking, or because they want the truth to be out there as a general matter, but because it's about partizan hits, it's about pushing an agenda and attacking. And so the same is true when they don't think there's a partizan agenda, when they can't shame their political opponents, or if they want to protect people for political reasons, as in the case of the Trans Manifesto. That is a big. That is just a recurring theme that we see time and time again.

Buck Sexton (25:55)

It is. And I would tie it in even with what we're seeing happen with Elon Musk right now, where he has become the primary target of the antipathy that has been built up for Trump. They failed to define Trump. They went after him for a decade. Elon Buck, who is going to come on the show, we're going to get him lined up. He was on the plane as well. I talked to him some. He is now the number one target of the Democrat Party and their legacy media allies. And they're attacking him through the Tesla universe more than they're attacking him through the. Through his actual protocols. Right. I mean, he is obviously the CEO of multiple companies, but they're going after his companies because he's going after waste and fraud in the government, which is really pretty unbelievable. I don't know that we've seen a precedent like this.

Clay Travis (26:53)

Well, we used to think that there were things that could be done in government or things that could be done for the government that everyone can just agree are objectively good. Right. I mean, you would think that something like getting rid of fraud, waste and abuse, and this is why we played the old clips of Barack Obama and other Democrats sounding like they're trying to put together Doge. Now, the thing is, they say it and don't mean it, meaning they talk about it, but don't actually. They either have not the political will or the skill set or the interest in doing it, but they'll talk about it because they know that it's broadly popular with the American people. And now they're finally doing something about this. The. Also, Clay, this is the thing that people don't like Elon, to me, meaning because of what he's doing.

Buck Sexton (27:46)

Right.

Clay Travis (27:46)

I mean, I don't mean people that for a long time maybe don't like Tesla or have some problem with Elon. But for Democrats to suddenly turn on Elon Musk because of what he's doing means that they care more about hating Trump than they do about saving the country and perhaps even the world, by their own admission. Which means that something's wrong with you. Right? There's something really off with your psychology, with your worldview. If hating Trump is more important than tackling climate change, again, their view of it, not my view of it, or bring the government in line with the basic accounting standards that you would necessitate or you would expect at any major corporation, that seems pretty fair, pretty standard.

Buck Sexton (28:33)

I think what it is, and you hit on this years ago, that climate change is a religion for people who don't believe in religion. I think there's a lot of truth to that. I also think the 25%, because let's talk about the 25% suffering from Trump derangement syndrome, they have basically made Trump their graven idol. Everything spins around what Trump does. And I care about politics. It matters to me, obviously. I love this job. I feel very fortunate to get to talk to you guys. But most of what I focus on outside of work is my family. Right. My three boys keep me very, very busy. I'm chasing them around, doing a lot of different things with them. It seems to me, Buck, like many of the most deranged Trump lunatics, they don't have anything else in their lives. They aren't really committed to anything else. They have allowed their opposition of Trump to be number one on their list of.

Clay Travis (29:38)

Of.

Buck Sexton (29:38)

Of obligations and responsibilities. It's not faith, it's not family. It's not even their work. The way they define themselves is their opposition to Trump. And what it ends up creating is. Is oftentimes untenable perspectives. Because if you really bought into climate change, and I think these people are crazy, but if you did, then Elon should be the biggest hero that has ever existed in your life, because no individual has done more in theory than Elon Musk. Now, we can talk about electric vehicles and the challenges embedded in and inherent in them, but if you believe that fossil fuels and Global warming is going to destroy the planet. There's no one who has done more to combat that than Elon Musk. And now you're throwing Molotov cocktails at Tesla's and you're trying to bankrupt this company. They, they, their brains are so broken that I think really what it comes back to is Trump is Satan and they really do believe that he's Hitler. And I wonder what could Trump come out in favor of that they would. I mean, being a buddies with Elon Musk is close to them being forced to turn on their most important issues. Right. Like what could Trump endorse that they would flip on?

Clay Travis (30:55)

Well, I think that a lot of this is rooted in psychology and not policy. I think that the Democrats are. And this has been a mass conditioning, a sort of mass mental manipulation that they have gone through or they have been put through, and they've done it to themselves in many cases. But we're fighting against emotions now, Clay. People that are people that are hateful toward Tesla. First of all, just because you don't like the politics of the CEO of a company, it's not like Tesla is. All Tesla is doing is things that everybody should think is good, especially Democrats. Making electric cars cool, advancing the technology, making electric, you know, car economy and everything that it go in the AI and all these things that goes into it, bringing it deep into the 21st century and building a different future, a more clean energy future for those who care about that objectively. It's a company that's doing good things that they should all like.

Buck Sexton (31:53)

Yes.

Clay Travis (31:53)

Right. This is not a company that is selling, you know, I don't know, cluster bombs to third world dictators. And like the company itself is bad. So Elon is trying to do something in the government that they don't like. They'll turn on that company. This is based in emotion. This is childish thinking from them. But I think you have that with Democrats across the board right now, because I don't even hear them making arguments. I just hear them upset about things all the time. They're just upset about everything. You know, they want. It's always, oh, we want the Trenda Aragua gang members gone too. We just don't like the way you're doing it. Oh, we want waste, fraud and abuse out of the government. We just don't like the way you're doing it. And we think you're Hitler for trying. Right. You, you start to see this over and over again. They actually don't have a better way of doing it. And what you find yourself realizing is they don't really want it to be done. They just want what they want because they're overcome with the emotion of my team versus your team. Trump wasn't supposed to win. Everything I was told by Foushee and Biden and Kamala and CBS Evening News, it was all bull crap. I feel like a moron now. And instead of having the accountability as a party, the Democrats could have accountability. They could look at themselves and say, what went wrong with us? It's, I don't like you, I'm mad at you, and I'm going to keep complaining and throwing tantrums, even when you're doing things that I should say thank you for. I just feel like this is the day in, day out reality of dealing with Democrats right now. Yeah. As seen by Tim Walls. I'm cheering for Tesla stock to go down. Oh, that's really stupid. Sorry. No, I wasn't cheering. It was a joke. You see what I mean? We knew that was stupid right away. Right away.

Buck Sexton (33:37)

This is the lead on Axios that I was talking about. Buck. I encourage you actually their AM newsletter out there. I enjoy this. I mean, I understand they're slanted towards the left, but I like just seeing what their attempts are. This was their head lead story today. Top Democrats say their party is in its deepest hole in 50 years. Lowest favorability ever. No popular leader, no ability to do anything in Congress. Durable minority on the Supreme Court. No influence with podcasters and social media accounts skyrocketing that have right leaning perspective. Young voters going way more conservative. Bad 2026 map. Senate retirements making it even harder. There's panic. There's panic out there.

Clay Travis (34:20)

I might have the team pull that sound bite from you and I just might like listen to it once, you know, once a day, you know. That's great. I love, I love that. That was fantastic.

Buck Sexton (34:29)

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Nate Silver (36:27)

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Maria Konnikova (36:28)

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Nate Silver (36:38)

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Maria Konnikova (36:48)

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Nate Silver (36:54)

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Maria Konnikova (37:15)

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Clay Travis (37:28)

Welcome back to Clay and Buck, you know, coming up in a few minutes just to have a little fun here. I do think we always have a lot of fun here, but you know what I mean. We should talk about Snow White because. Oh, yeah. Wow. This is not just a movie that is bombing as it should bomb. This is a movie that when people look back at the history of our time and wokeness in the culture, this is going to be one of the data points kids in. In 30 years writing about the death of wokeness in the culture will be able to take. Well, they'll probably have AI write their paper for them, but they'll be able to take the Snow White. The Snow White ticket receipts and say, see what a disaster this thing is? And I think it's indicative of. Of where everything is going. So we'll get into some of that. Here we go. We got Howard in Boca Raton, a lovely place where I go meet friends for dinner regularly. What's going on, Howard? All right, so I need a little help countering some statements made by my liberal friends. Maybe I could throw it out there and you give me some more insight. So one statement, DOGE is ruining America, and that's because they're cutting funds from the NIH and it's taking away from the ability for us to do research for diseases. The guy specifically mentioned Ms. Not sure why that's one. Can I throw the other one, or do you want to address that one first? Well, I mean, sure. The short version is they're looking at money that is wasted and useless in the endeavors that they're spending it on. So I would. I just think that overall, it's quite clear. The government spends way too much money and waste way too much money, and they're trying to stop this. Is it going to be 100% perfect? No, but Elon says that whenever they figure out something is affecting an important program, they cut back on it. Clay?

Buck Sexton (39:20)

Yeah, I mean, what I would say in general is. And I think a lot of people are starting to ask these questions, why should the federal government be funding research when the research goes to public companies and they make the money off it and not the government? You seeing a lot of this, And I know, like, Columbia, by the way, has bent the knee on federal funds, but I think a lot of people had the reaction I did. Why does Columbia University need $400 million in taxpayer funds? Like, why were we giving them these kind of dollars in the first place? And that's not just to pick on Columbia. There are lots of universities all over the place. So, look, I think medical research is important, but I think if medical research is occurring, it's. It should be for. For profit basis. By and large, the government shouldn't be funding research where private companies get the benefit from it. So again, we'll dive into some of this and more more on Snow White when we come back, which is going to be the woke disaster.

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Nate Silver (40:54)

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Nate Silver (41:02)

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