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Buck Sexton
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Buck Sexton
Welcome, everybody. Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now. Appreciate you being with us. Just an update here. We are following closely events in the hill country of Texas, the west of San Antonio with these horrible floods that have taken now at least 90 lives, I believe, or close to 90 lives. The latest count. We are following this poster. We're going to talk to Congressman Chip Roy. This is his district that got hit so badly by these flash floods. And we'll talk to him about what's going on, the rescue search and rescue operations and also look into could this have been mitigated? I think prevented is unlikely, but mitigated meaning less awful than it was under the circumstances. We'll discuss that with him. And also maybe a little bit of the, the people that are politicizing this. I, I don't. It's so beneath contempt and so just so grotesque that I don't know how much time we really should spend on it. Clay. Because anybody who says things like, well, this is a MAGA area, I know there was a doctor who got fired. I, I just, yeah, it's.
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Clay Travis
People are awful. I think in general when disaster happens, okay, I'm talking about the disaster itself. It is almost impossible to argue, hey, this person is responsible for this disaster. Right? I'm talking about natural disaster where it is fair. I think to talk is when the government doesn't respond, when the government doesn't respond rapidly to take care of people. When FEMA does a poor job. That's a reality. Right. At some point, that conversation is real. Hurricane hits, flood hits, and you're like, oh, this is the president's fault or it's a senator's fault or it's a voter's fault. I mean, the little girls who were at that camp, they didn't vote in the 2024.
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Buck Sexton
They were just little girls at summer camp.
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Clay Travis
And if kids die and your thought is this is a political thing, I want to respond to it immediately. You need to look at your shoulder.
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Buck Sexton
There's something deeply, there's something broken. Did something broken inside. No question. So anyway, we're following this closely. We've updated you to the best of our knowledge about what's going on right now, still search and rescue efforts. We can also get to some more of your calls in the back half of this hour if you want to talk about things that were missed or things we need to know about or you just want to share your thoughts as a member of that community. We're taking, we have lines lit from people that were effectively in the flood areas. So we want to hear from, from you first and foremost on that. I did want to, because we've been off for a few days, focus on some news stories that deal with the economy and what I think we can expect here going forward. Another, another moment of what we tell you is going to happen generally happens on this show. We said it about the Sean Combs verdict, which is very different than the big beautiful bill situation. But we said that and we also said that, I mean, I was basically ready as soon as the Senate passed the clause. I was like, yeah, it's basically a done deal. And you correctly said, well, the House and then Trump. Yeah, I know, I know. But this is not really and sure enough, yes, the process was it went back to the House. They didn't do anything. They passed the thing as it was. Trump signed it on the big beautiful bill. So it happened as we thought. And the objections based on budgetary and spending issues, those did not actually, those did not materialize into anything that got really any attention before the holiday. So Trump signed it. And here we are. Now, let's, let's get into some of what happens now on this, because I think this is, I think there's some important components of this, some aspects of this that deserve us to drill in on a little bit. First of all, you know Speaker Johnson saying that it's going to be jet fuel for the economy. I think we actually said exactly that here on the show. So you know, that's. Can't disagree with that. I think it's going to be incredibly powerful. The US Is close to a couple of trade deals that was being reported on last night. Scott Bess and the Treasury Secretary looking at this Clay there, there is the tariff pause that Trump put in place that ends next week. So the negotiating period is coming to a terminus here, or at least the negotiating period as set forth the last time around is coming to a point here. But the people that have been saying that this is gonna result in disaster the whole time and it's all gonna be skyrocketing prices, they were wrong before. I think they're gonna be wrong again. And I think we could get some very big things, big things done here in terms of trade in the days ahead. And I think Trump has bought a lot of goodwill from people out there to finish this negotiation because so far the economy's been doing really well and the scary stuff about the trade negotiations have not come to fruition at all.
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Clay Travis
And I think this is another example where expert opinion that in some way having tariffs put in place and negotiating these trade deals were going to destroy the United States economy. I mean, on Wednesday or Thursday, right before the July 4th holiday, we were at an all time high in the S&P 500 stock market in general. And we're still basically there now today. So look, is it gonna potentially come back a little bit? Yes, but I think the doom and gloom the world is going to collapse. Catastrophist have been proven wrong when it comes to tariff negotiations and what the impact is going to be going forward. I just think they're wrong and that doesn't mean that there may not be challenges ahead economically. Somewhat. Yes, look, to me, we talked a lot about this on Wednesday or sorry, Tuesday. To me, the pivot now that the big beautiful bill has passed is growth, growth, growth. The way that we are going to get our financial house in order now is we have to get the economy moving at higher than 3% level. Growth is the best thing that can happen. Economic growth to the, to to start to bring in way more revenue, to start to balance the budget. That's what's going to have to happen. And the bill was imperfect, as all bills are. We talked about this. A lot of people just don't want to address the reality of government spending and debts. There isn't the political will to address it. Part of me, Buck, I think I said this on the show, but part of me feels like politicians are just going to be fine with Having to cut benefits because the math doesn't add up. And they're just going to say, hey, the math is what it is and avoid having to make any decisions in advance. And then in 2033 or whatever the year is, they're just going to be, they're going to look at it and say, hey, everybody gets 70% of what was promised because the money isn't there and we're sorry, but that's the reality. And you have to deal with it because otherwise it would require having real conversations about it. And it doesn't feel like anybody wants to have a real conversation. We're just kind of living in this magical era where what the math shows us is going to happen down the line. We're not going to acknowledge it until basically we're there.
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Buck Sexton
You know, there are Democrats who are saying this is going to be what results in disaster in the midterms for Republicans. First of all, if Trump hadn't, if this hadn't gotten passed and this had gotten, if this had fallen apart on the shoals, if this had come apart on the shoals of Congress infighting, that would be far worse for the Republicans because you'd ask what exactly are they doing if they can't do this? And because they have the votes, as we saw Republicans have the votes. They got it through. Trump's very excited about it. I would note the, the attacks on it are along the lines of the cuts to Medicaid. And it's not really cuts, as Scott Besson has pointed out. It's a decrease in the increase over.
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Clay Travis
We'Ve talked about this. They've allowed to, the idea of a cut is just slowing growth. So it's like, hey, you're fat. But instead of putting on 10 pounds of extra weight this year, you put on six. Nobody would say, boy, that's a real cut. You're still getting fatter. You're just getting fatter slower.
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Buck Sexton
Scott Bessant reminded Dana Bat oh, we should do the CNN Megyn Kelly did a breakdown of the CNN MSNBC ratings and it's, it's just crazy over there. No one's watching these channels anymore that we, I, you know, we grew up certainly with CNN as this brand global news and all this stuff and these completely falling apart. But anyway, he went on, Scott Bessant was talking to Dana Bash about the Medicaid work requirement, this cut three, and listen to him explain reality a bit.
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Unknown
I think to have them register twice a year for these benefits, that is not a burden.
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Buck Sexton
My impression of the Republican Party is that historically you've wanted to cut through the red tape and not create more red tape.
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Unknown
Well, no, no, but we've also wanted to put in work requirements, which somehow was very popular under Bill Clinton, was popular under President Obama, and this Democratic Party blew out the deficit in 2020 and they never want to bring it back. But work requirements even poll well with the median Democratic voter, maybe not the fringe.
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Buck Sexton
Hmm. Work requirements. Clay, you have to actually do something. If you are an able body. We're not talking about, you know, mom with kids, we're not talking about disabled people. Or you have to be willing to check in and say, hey, I'm trying to do something productive for society. And therefore, please continue to give me health care, welfare, which is what Medicaid is.
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Clay Travis
It only requires 20 hours for able bodied, mostly men, and 20 hours of work is considered to be enough. And some of that can be charity work. So I mean, we're talking legitimately about, hey, just do something. There's a huge percentage and I hope that some of the deportations are going to impact this in a positive way. There's a huge percentage of men that just don't work. And I'm not talking about 65 year old men, I'm talking about 25, 35, 45 men who are in the prime earning years of what should be their work life and just don't work, just don't do anything. And why should they get. Why should we who are out there working give them benefits? I got fired up over the weekend. You know, the big beautiful bill is passed, but it preserves 37% tax rates. Right? That's the highest level tax rate. Think about that for a minute. What we've just accepted as reality, that means that if you are out there paying 37% tax, and I am, that means I work Monday, Tuesday, every week just for the government. Presume that I don't work seven days, which I basically do, but five days a week, Monday to Friday. If you're paying 37%, this doesn't even count. State taxes, property taxes, all those other things, just the federal government, every day of the week. I work Monday and Tuesday for the federal government. That's kind of crazy that we just accept 37% tax rates. And a lot of you out there, if you live in California or you live in New York or you live in Illinois, you're actually paying over half every work week. Half of the time. You basically are an employee of the United States government or your local tax authority. It's crazy that we have just accepted this as reality. But that's where we are.
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Buck Sexton
Medicaid here, according to Grok, which I do find a very useful and fun tool on the fly to, to use Medicaid spending in 2024 was a little over $600 billion. $600 billion. And remember, that's not. That's not including Medicare, which is for people 65 and up. That is the amount of money that the country is spending on for people who, for one reason or another, are unable to get insurance or health care coverage themselves. That is a very large sum of money that is, that is going toward this. I mean, it's, it's approaching like the Pentagon budget that we spend on Medicaid.
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Clay Travis
What do you think that actually, the big problem we have. I think there are two major broken parts of America right now. One is the tax code completely broken. Two is health care. It's completely broken. Regardless of what your politics are. That $600 billion you just said, how much of that do you think actually benefits health? In other words, if it weren't spent, that there would be a precipitous decline in overall health?
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Buck Sexton
There are.
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Clay Travis
There are some.
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Buck Sexton
There was a big study, the Oregon study, years ago, a study out of Oregon, that showed that the, the actual health outcomes for people with Medicaid versus people who are similar socioeconomic status who do not have access to Medicaid. They could, they could find. No, no difference. Remember emergency. Emergency services? Anybody you walk in the emergency room, you get treated. Although these days you might wait, you know, 12 hours in a hallway because there's a ton of illegals who are going for frontline care and everything. But put that aside for a moment. Emergency room care. And that's, you know, there's a moral obligation that society has accepted where if you need medical treatment, you get treated. Okay, fine, but Medicaid is more the routine, the going in for this checkup or that or whatever. How much of that is waste and how much of that isn't even benefiting the patients who are going in for it?
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Clay Travis
I think no one really knows. If you asked me, I think we could cut half of all medical treatments in America. All of them. Half. And I think we would see no impact in quality of life or length of life. Right. In other words, we're just wasting money so much every single day and getting not great outcomes. And if you question that, just look at the average lifespan. We spend way more money in America on healthcare than any other country. We don't live the longest.
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Buck Sexton
So this is, this is the Oregon Experiment. This is published in a really radical right wing thing called the New England Journal of Medicine randomized controlled study. Medicaid coverage generated no significant improvements in physical health outcomes in the first two years. That was a decade ago. Yeah, no, no. They can't even say that it makes it healthier at all in any way.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show I flew back yesterday Buck. I was just telling people off air Ali and the the team awesome time down in the Gulf of America. Met a lot of of Clay and Buck listeners outkick readers like that is definitely our wheelhouse. Down on down on 38 down on the Gulf of America, the Florida Panhandle. But I was flying back and on Southwest Airlines and one of the flight attendants came over and she said, you know, basically you look like Clay Travis, but he's a lot taller than you. And I really had no idea how to respond. And I part of me was like, hey, I should be like, yeah, you know, Clay Travis, he's like six five, super ripped. He's not, you know, fat and short by the way, I'm six feet. But I was just like, well, I think it she was like, maybe it's just because you're sitting down. I got a picture taken with her as I was leaving. But have you ever had somebody say you look like someone, except you're not as good as they might otherwise have been. I. I had no idea how to respond. I'm like, well, you know, this is me.
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Buck Sexton
Somebody told me I was better looking in person once. And I was like, so does that mean my photos are ugly?
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Clay Travis
Well, that's better than. You look a lot better on television, which or are on the video. The people are watching us right now. That is funny, though. Look. Prize picks. Halfway through the Major League Baseball season, All Star Game next week in Atlanta. Maybe the only thing Braves fans can celebrate all season is having the All Star Game. Prize picks can get you hooked up with the All Star Game. Really easy to use. Pick two or more players across any sport, more or less on the projections, you could win up to 2,000 times your money. It's America's number one daily fantasy sports app. 30 states out there you can play in. Download the Price Picks app today. Use my name Clay as the promo code. Get 50 instantly when you play football. $5. That's 50 bucks. When you go to prizepix.com use my name Clay. That's prizepix.com my name Clay. Do it today.
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Buck Sexton
The racial spoils system, everybody. Let's talk about this for a little bit, shall we? Racial spoil system. That's actually how it was referred to in a Supreme Court decision, I want to say, by Alito at one point. And as you know, you're not allowed to for college admissions discriminate on the basis of race anymore. Schools are still doing it left and right. The Trump administration is going to have to sue a lot of them, and other people are going to have to bring a lot of lawsuits. They're going to have to feel the financial pain of their racism because that's what it is now. Because the same system that said you're allowed to take people based on their skin color over other people or based on their ethnicity, you know, indigenous persons background, whatever it is, for, you know, Native Americans. That same system now says, no, that's actually wrong. You shouldn't do that. And you're no longer able to do that. And this brings me to Zoran, and Clay just told me his middle name is Kwame.
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Clay Travis
Yep, Zoran.
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Buck Sexton
Kwame Momdami Mandani applied in 2009 to Columbia. New York Times wrote about this. There's a lot going on here, everyone. And he claimed that he was African American. Now, just so we get the facts, let me just get the facts out.
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Clay Travis
Black. The clip, the box that he checked is African American or black, right?
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Buck Sexton
Well, if he's, he's hanging his hat, so to speak. I mean, he's, he's, you know, claiming that the African American part of it.
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Clay Travis
Is like, because he was qualified Africa.
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Buck Sexton
Because he was born in Africa. So we're gonna talk about this in a second, right? So he says he's African American and slash black. Now we know that's, that's he's clearly not black. And. But this, this goes to a few things. First of all, this guy is. I don't think he didn't get in. Right.
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Clay Travis
He did not get admitted to Columbia.
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Buck Sexton
Now there's only two. There's only really one way, I think that that's possible based on. Because now Chris Rufo, you don't want Rufo on, on your, on your tail. You don't want him coming after you. He has his whole Columbia file. Have you seen this?
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Clay Travis
No.
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Buck Sexton
He has this whole Columbia admissions file. Somehow Chris Rufo got this. And he has his SAT scores. He has everything. Chris Ruffo has all this stuff. So here's, here's what we have. He got a 2140 out of 2400. I wish it was out of the 1600 because I don't know what 2140, really. I mean, I guess that's like a 700 equivalent. So maybe it's like a 1400, which is not a bad score. It's a good SAT score. But for Columbia, if you're white or Asian, that's probably not going to cut it. Not even close. So this guy, he applied. He applied. The point here is everyone. He did. He pulled in Elizabeth Warren. All right, let's just, let's just get right down to this. Clay. I mean, Mom. Sorry. Zoron Kwame Momdani figured I'll pretend to be black to get. For the purposes of admission to get into Columbia University. It didn't work. I think they figured it out. That's what I was going to say before. I think they knew this guy wasn't really black. And he's now saying because he was born in Africa. Well, under that standard, Elon Musk, any white South African, anyone born in Egypt or North Africa, I might add, if you're Algerian. There are al many Algerians, Claire, are as. Are as light skinned as you and I are. Ok? There's a whole ethnic Berber.
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Clay Travis
B E R. B E R. They're a lot.
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Buck Sexton
Some of them have blue eyes and light hair and light skin. Live in North Africa and been indigenous to North Africa for like a thousand years or something. All right. They've been there a long time. If you applied as a North African, as an African American, slash, black people would, would flip out. If you were Egyptian, Cairo is a huge city, millions and millions of people, they would flip out. Mamdani tried to pull the card of, oh, I'm Kwame Mamdani, the black guy applying to Colombia. Let me in. The guy's a fraud. He pulled the Elizabeth Warren and now we know.
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Clay Travis
Yes. And I think also to build on the analogy you made, I mean, Charlize Tyrone is from South Africa. Elon Musk is from South Africa. If Elon Musk had gotten government contracts because he had marked African American on applications for the government contracts, if he.
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Buck Sexton
Said, I'm a black small business owner, give me, give me loan preference, people.
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Clay Travis
Would lose their minds. And I think what this really kind of brings up is the reason he did this is because his test scores were not incredible. According to this article, 89th percentile. It's good to be top 10%, most things. That's not good enough to be a white or an Asian kid and get into Colombia. So he was trying to pretend that he had black background because the standard to be admitted if you are black, that would be good enough to get in. And here is this racial spoil system in general. It just has to vanish. It really does have to, to once and for all give up the ghost, so to speak. If you want to go to these elite schools and they want to only take kids who are amazing, right? Like getting over 1500 1600s on the SAT, 34, 35, 36 on the ACT, great AP scores, good GPA's, all those things, that's fine. But they should do it on a race blind level. And if they really want to focus on diversity, the only diversity that matters is diversity of thought. Because otherwise you have a bunch of people who look different but think the exact same, which is unfortunately what has become the case in so many elite institutions out there. So I, I think this should be disqualifying. And you can say, okay, well, he was only 18 years old. I mean, look at the standard that they put in place for Rachel Dolezal. Rachel Dolezal, for those of you who don't remember, was a white woman who was pretending to be black that I believe ran the Spokane, Washington, NAACP chapter. They found out that she was actually just a white woman who was somewhat dark skinned and was pretending to be black. And she was ostracized from popular society, from politics, from all that world. This guy is clearly trying to trade on the racial spoil system. The fact that his middle name is Kwame. I guarantee you he got his SAT scores and he looked at it and he said, there's no way as an Asian or white kid that I would get in, but my middle name is Kwame. Maybe I can confuse people by clicking African American or black. Here's the other thing, Buck, and I think this is important. He wasn't actually African American. He did not become an American citizen until 2018. So even if you're going to give him the. Well, he was born in Africa, so it's fine for him to click African American. We know what the intent of the racial box there was. He wasn't even African American, so he actually lied. Now, here's a question for you that I think, I hope people are going to look into. Was he admitted as a minority to the school that he ultimately went to?
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Buck Sexton
Bowdoin.
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Clay Travis
Bowdoin, which I couldn't even pronounce.
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Buck Sexton
1400. No, 1400 at Bowdoin. He'd get in. That's. That's. That's not.
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Clay Travis
So you think he got in regardless?
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Buck Sexton
I mean, I went to a Nescac school, so Bowdoin's technically a competitor. And, you know, Bowdoin's not that hard to get into. Oh, snap. The Bowdoin alumni are going to flip out at the Amherst guy. But, sorry, no, it's a very good school. But he was. That's the thing. Clay Bowdoin is the school, you know, that this guy would. That's the. That's the school that he would get into for on his own merit. He tried to get into Columbia, pulling the I'm Kwame momdami Mandani card. Right? That's the.
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Clay Travis
Now, here's where he may have gotten caught. His dad was actually a faculty member, so the admissions staff may have looked into this, and I wonder if they rejected him because they thought that he was lying about his background actually blew up on him and inequality.
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Buck Sexton
This is a huge deal. This is a huge deal, because I know this from friends of mine who work at universities. I have a friend who works at Columbia University, for example. Don't want to name him. Don't want him to get fired for being friends with me. But his children can go to Columbia for free, which, when you think about that, value. And then on top of that, the unspoken part of the deal is if your child is even vaguely child, you know, young adult, when they're going to college, if your kid is vaguely qualified, they are much more likely to be accepted and they go for free. A huge. These Ivy League schools. A huge. This true of all the Ivies. A lot of schools in general, but the Ivies for sure. A huge benefit to. Now, I think it might only be for, like, tenured professors. There's probably some, you know, I don't know if you're the guy who's, you know, like, sweeping the floors of the auditorium, but maybe. I actually don't know. I'm getting beyond my brief on that. But there's this other story I just want to remind Everybody of from 2015. I interviewed this guy, you know, Mindy Kaling, the actress slash comedian from the office.
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Clay Travis
Yes. Her brother. Her brother, Yeah. I wondered if. Yeah. Tell this story for people who don't know.
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Buck Sexton
DJ Chokil Ingham was his name. He was Indian. Mindy Kaling is his sister. So she's a famous actress, comedian. She's from the office. She's the South Asian descent woman in the office. So you've. The one who's like. Anyway, you know, she is. If you've seen the office, he. Clay, didn't get into. He had very mediocre scores. Didn't get into the medical school programs. He wanted to. So he reapplied. Shaved his head, I believe. Yes. Shaved his head. Darkened his. Or, you know, tried to, like, change the photo so he would look darker in the photo. He tried to appear more black and changed his name to Jojo. And guess what? Same score, same person. All of a sudden, getting into top medical programs across the country and the left went bonkers.
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Clay Travis
He wrote a book about it, right? Was it a book or a movie he made about this?
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Buck Sexton
It was a website. Almost. I mean, this. I'm just telling you what it's called. Almost. Black.com was the website that he launched.
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Clay Travis
You know what it goes to is it points out the absurdity. He got looked at as an Indian guy and didn't get in anywhere because.
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Buck Sexton
Can I tell you something? This is. Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah. I just. This is the amazing thing. This is cnn, which is now, like, about to be on the trash heap and turned into a channel where they sell, like, Swarovski crystals or something to you, Clay, the CNN piece on this. There's little evidence to suggest that his posturing as a black applicant helped him get into the following schools. There's nothing but evidence. He applied, didn't get in anywhere. Says he's black, changes his appearance and gets into a bunch of schools. And CNN's like, there's no evidence that being Black helped him. This was the, this was a delusion that we were all supposed to live in.
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Clay Travis
Not only that, I mean, the fact that the, if you care about minority advancement, all of these Indian kids are so successful in America that they're actually being penalized for being Indian. And same thing is true of Chinese, Japanese. I mean, we've talked about this before, I think on the program, but do you know the highest earning race and sex group in America? It's Asian men. Asian men on average make more money than anyone in America. Okay. So you have all these young first and second generation immigrants that want to be doctors and they're being used, their race against them because there's too many of them doing so great. This guy pretends to be black, he can suddenly get in everywhere.
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Buck Sexton
Nigerian American immigrants out earn. Native American, Native born American, I should say. Households.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
So I mean, you got it. But substantially, they're actually a high earning.
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Clay Travis
Income is a perfect distillation of the actual lack of racism. That you could come here from Nigeria and immediately become wealthier than the average person who's been born here. The fact that people from Nigeria are desperate to get here or the fact that people from any part of Africa or Asia or Latin America destroys the racism argument on its face. Why would you want to come to a profoundly racist country? But I actually give credit to that. I remember that story because Mindy Kaling is actually a super leftist, at least publicly in the way that she is embraced.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, of course. Also, the reason they got upset about this is because it exposed the absurdity of the whole situation as well as the truth of it. And the truth of the affirmative action regime in this country has been that they've been changing standards for people, primarily people who are black, Native American or Hispanic, primarily changing it so that they give them a couple of hundred points equivalent on the SAT and lying about it. And they've been doing this for about 40 years. And people are sick of pretending that this isn't what's been going on. Our generation is the one that saw it and it's all a big lie and we're tired of it.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. And also, let's also point out doctors, theoretically, the people that you would want to be the smartest and the best at taking care. We're not talking about somebody getting a grad graduate degree in ethnic studies or.
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Buck Sexton
Something, surgeons, heart surgeons, airline pilots. There's a whole range of merit should.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
I did the. Yeah, I'm glad you pointed this out. I did the back of the envelope math on that and I assumed. Okay, well, divided, it's like a 700. 700 times 2. No, no. If it's more like a 1280, his chance of getting in as a non minority to Colombia, basically zero. No chance. I mean, not even with, even with.
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Clay Travis
His dad as a, as a professor.
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Buck Sexton
Professor. Yeah. Yeah. It's just they would have said you're just not qualified. Like you won't be able to handle the, the, you know, the low. So kind of rough for Bowdoin. Bowdoin? I thought you were taking a 1400 guy. Sorry, Bowdoin, 1280.
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Clay Travis
No, let me say this too, for people out there that might be, I do think this is a story because if he marked black African American on Columbia's application, I wonder if he might have gotten a minority scholarship at a place like Bowdoin or somewhere else that he ended up applying because his middle name is Corporate Kwame and he's saying he's African American or black. I think it's reasonable to assume that he might be mixed race?
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Buck Sexton
Well, they, they would give him it would probably be financial aid. I don't think that Bowdoin those small nescacs like Amherst didn't have scholarships, but some people go for free based on the financial aid they get. So he might have got. But he has wealthy parents. So did he get, you know, he has well off parents. Did he get a lot of financial aid? Clay to your point, because he pretended to be black?
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