Hour 2 - Bright Red Line

Summary

The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show: Hour 2 – “Bright Red Line”

Date: September 15, 2025
Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Hosts: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton
Episode Theme:
A raw and urgent discussion in the wake of conservative activist Charlie Kirk’s assassination—focusing on media reactions, the cultural response to political violence, free speech boundaries, and public accountability. The episode examines both the ideological motives behind the murder and the “demons unleashed” in its aftermath, drawing a bold line on acceptable behavior in public life.

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Overview

Clay and Buck confront the disturbing reaction to Charlie Kirk’s assassination, analyzing not only the details of the tragedy but also the chilling celebrations and responses from across American society, especially among those in positions of public trust or public employment. With input from listeners and prominent voices such as Bill Maher, they debate whether—and where—a “bright red line” should be drawn regarding who gets to keep their job after publicly celebrating political violence. The show is passionate, at times mournful, and ultimately calls for accountability and a reckoning around basic decency.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Investigation and Ideological Motive (02:28–04:25)

• Buck provides an update on the Charlie Kirk assassination, emphasizing new details about the suspect, his motivations, and background. The involvement of a romantic partner who was transgender is discussed—Buck argues the connection to trans issues and leftist ideology is direct, not a coincidence.
  • Buck (02:28): "It's a coincidence that Charlie was shot when being asked a trans question, shot by somebody who had a romantic relationship with a transitioning trans individual. No, these are not just coincidences. We all understand what's going on here."
• The left’s reaction: Buck and Clay point out that some try to downplay or dismiss the assassin’s motive, arguing this is ideologically driven violence.

2. Media Detachment and the Emmys (05:09–10:46)

• Disinterest in Hollywood award shows: The hosts express how out of touch media and entertainment elites are with America, using the Emmys and Stephen Colbert’s win as examples.
  • Buck (05:27): “The Emmy for best comedy show went to Colbert... because the narrative is that he was anti Trump and some kind of an anti Trump hero. The fact that he was overpaid and his ratings stunk don't matter.”
• Political signaling over substance: Clay highlights the Emmys' awarding and then revoking Andrew Cuomo's honorary Emmy as proof of the left's moral inconsistency.
  • Clay (06:29): “I have not paid attention to the Emmys since they gave Andrew Cuomo the special Emmy in the wake of COVID... then they pulled his special Emmy after he was accused of sexual harassment."
• Viral moments: The hosts play and criticize a viral "Free Palestine" statement by an Emmy winner, noting the superficiality of such political gestures (07:08).

3. Left-Wing Media Ecosystem and Cancel Culture (09:00–12:31)

• Protecting ideologues: Clay and Buck argue that left-wing billionaires and institutions ensure lucrative careers for progressive media figures, even when their popularity wanes.
  • Clay (09:00): “The left does a way better job basically protecting and giving their advocates ability to make a living in media than the right does.”
• Normalization of “both sides” narratives: Buck criticizes media calls for “dialogue” after political violence, saying they erase leftist responsibility for heated rhetoric.

4. Celebrating Assassination—Responses from Public Employees (12:31–16:14)

• Widespread disturbing reaction: The hosts are stunned by the number of teachers, pilots, and uniformed employees posting videos or messages celebrating Charlie Kirk’s death.
• Clay draws a bright red line: Anyone celebrating political assassination, if taxpayer-funded or in a trusted position (police, military, teachers), should be fired immediately.
  • Clay (14:04): “There are tens of millions maybe of Americans right now who would say yay for that. I know they would celebrate if you or I got murdered. I mean that's the reality.”

5. Erica Kirk's “Battle Cry” and Grassroots Response (21:44–24:25)

• Play and commentary on Erica Kirk's speech: The hosts play a powerful, emotional clip from Charlie Kirk’s widow, Erica, who addresses the country.
  • Erica Kirk (22:17): “The movement my husband built will not die... I refuse to let that happen. It will not die.”
• National impact: Clay shares how his own sons and students nationwide have responded by starting Turning Point chapters in honor of Kirk’s legacy.

6. Public Accountability: Who Should Be Fired? (26:18–37:51)

• Database of celebrators: Discussion of an online database cataloging 50,000+ individuals who have posted in support of the assassination. The hosts debate where employers should draw the line.
• Clay's framework: Public (taxpayer-funded) employees should be immediately dismissed for celebrating violence; private employers may choose their standards, but he personally would fire such individuals.
  • Clay (29:20): “If you are a teacher, I certainly do not believe that you should be in charge of molding young minds if you are celebrating political assassination.”
• Listener input: A caller describes a youth ministry leader with accolades who celebrated Kirk's death, shocking the hosts and reinforcing their point (31:21–32:48).
  • Caller (32:16): “He celebrated one less maggot on the world.”
• Buck’s assessment: This is a basic moral failure, not a cancel culture issue. Celebrating assassination is a red line no matter the politics.
  • Buck (33:11): “It has made me think that this country has a darker future than I had anticipated before just because this... has to be confronted.”

7. Addressing Charges of Hypocrisy & Free Speech (34:18–37:51)

• Rebuttal to “conservatives are doing cancel culture”: Buck says the left always demands firings for speech they dislike, e.g., pronoun slips; publicly cheering a murder is not protected by First Amendment at work.
• Clay on precedent: He would support firing a public employee for celebrating the assassination of a prominent figure on either side, such as Rachel Maddow, to establish a singular, moral precedent.

8. Listener Calls and Media Reactions (43:08–46:14)

• Laughter at TMZ? A listener describes alleged on-air celebration at TMZ; Buck and Clay clarify that TMZ contested the context, quickly saying the background noise was unrelated.
• Standard for decency: Clay repeats, “Don't celebrate a murder in public.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Buck Sexton (02:28):
  "It's a coincidence that Charlie was shot when being asked a trans question, shot by somebody who had a romantic relationship with a transitioning trans individual. No, these are not just coincidences. We all understand what's going on here."

• Buck Sexton (05:27):
  "They gave [Colbert] the award. And I just think it goes to how out of touch, deluded and kind of defiant in their absurdity… They are unrepentantly, completely detached from reality."

• Clay Travis (14:04):
  "There are tens of millions maybe of Americans right now who would say yay for that. I know they would celebrate if you or I got murdered. I mean that's the reality."

• Erica Kirk, via audio clip (22:17):
  "The movement my husband built will not die... I refuse to let that happen. It will not die."

• Bill Maher, via audio clip (27:14):
  "The right wingers say what you want about them, but they talk to you... they don’t have that attitude [of refusing to engage]."

• Clay Travis (29:20):
  "If you are a public employee, I think you should be fired... if you are a teacher, I certainly do not believe that you should be in charge of molding young minds if you are celebrating political assassination."

• Caller (31:21):
  "He celebrated one less maggot on the world."

• Buck Sexton (33:11):
  "It has made me think that this country has a darker future than I had anticipated... This has to be confronted."

• Clay Travis (36:53):
  "If you celebrate the murder of dads and moms for sharing their political opinions, in my opinion, you have failed the basic standard of humanity."

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Charlies Kirk assassination details & leftist motive: 02:28–04:25
• Emmys, Colbert, and leftist media bubble: 05:09–10:46
• How the left protects its own in media: 09:00–10:46
• Backlash to the Kirk assassination in public life: 12:31–16:14
• Erica Kirk's speech (audio): 21:44–24:25
• Call for accountability / who should be fired: 26:18–37:51
• Listener call about youth minister: 31:21–32:48
• Discussion of TMZ and media reaction: 43:08–46:14

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Tone & Style

The show’s tone is somber, outraged, and unwavering—Clay and Buck fuse their usual direct, conversational style with an urgency befitting the week’s events. They constantly return to themes of basic human decency, public trust, and the necessity to set real consequences for crossing “bright red lines” in civil society. Despite their political angle, the message is universal: celebrating political assassinations—whoever the target—should always be a fireable offense for those in public service.

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Summary prepared for listeners seeking an in-depth, timestamped recounting of the “Bright Red Line” hour following the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

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[Clay Travis]

I only knew they were happening because my friend Nate Bargazi, the comedian, was the host. So I had seen that he had posted that he was going to be hosting them. I did not watch one single moment. I was traveling to get up to New York during the Emmys, but otherwise I would have had absolutely no idea.

[Buck Sexton]

I bring it up because one, it's funny how much these award ceremonies now have. I remember when I was growing up as a kid, like the Oscars, for example, was absolute. Everyone watched the Oscars and you were really rooting for a movie to win. You know, no one pays attention to stuff anymore. But I'll tell you, the Emmy for best comedy show went to Colbert, the canceled Stephen Colbert show, who ruined a dynasty, who ruined a franchise. They gave him the award. And I just think it goes to how out of touch, deluded and kind of defiant in their absurdity. I mean, why did he get the award? Because the narrative is that he was anti Trump and some kind of an anti Trump hero. So the fact that he was overpaid and his ratings stunk don't matter. And that just goes though to everything you see with their media now. They are clay. They are unrepentantly, completely detached from reality.

[Clay Travis]

I have not paid attention to the Emmys since they gave Andrew Cuomo the special Emmy in the wake of COVID and then had to. Then they pulled his special Emmy after he was accused of sexual harassment. Not for sending everybody into the nursing homes. This did happen last night on the Emmys though. This is someone named Hannah Einbinder or Einbinder.

[Buck Sexton]

Never heard of her before.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, I don't know who she is, but she won an aw and this is how she celebrated. I see it on the cut sheet here. Cut three.

[Buck Sexton]

Finally.

[Caller]

I just want to say.

[Buck Sexton]

I just want to say finally.

[Clay Travis]

Go Birds, ice and free Palestine. Thank you.

[Buck Sexton]

That's like that, right, right there. You know that this is a person who has honestly, just like low iq, low information voter. The. The most superficial and self congratulatory nonsense that you could say in, in one as the birds thing, by the way, is that, that's Eagles. Oh, that's for the Eagles.

[Clay Travis]

So the first one. The first one. Okay, like that one.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm not trying to antagonize Eagles fans here. That's fine. But the rest of it, you know, the bleep ice, they're 2, 0.

[Clay Travis]

They got the big win over the Chiefs. But yeah, F ice and free Palestine. And then afterwards she's Jewish and she said, I just think it's important for Jewish people to speak out. What, in favor of the eradication of Israel.

[Buck Sexton]

There are, there are a lot of left wing Jews, unfortunately, who are deeply critical of Israel and, and are. And give aid and comfort to Israel's enemies. I don't know what else to say. That's not a. I. When I was doing Middle Eastern Studies 20 years ago on campus there were a couple of Jewish professors who taught Middle Eastern studies and they were rabidly anti Israel. So this is not a, a new phenomenon that you could have somebody that is taking that position. But yeah, I don't even know this person is. I didn't want to spend much time on it. For me it was more just the, the fact that Colbert. It reminds me of when they gave the. What is it the Pulitzer to. Was it the Washington Post for the Russia collusion reporting? Right. Wasn't it? Or the New York Times. It was one of those. They all.

[Clay Travis]

I don't know. I mean the fact that they haven't pulled those, those awards, it's just.

[Buck Sexton]

But they're telling you who they are is the point. The point of Colbert show was not to be funny and get ratings. It was hashtag resistance. They did, he did that. They overpaid him to do it and now they give him awards for it. This is how the left wing media ecosystem operates.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, I mean I think you should prepare yourself. I mean he's been fired by CBS and he's fired because his show is losing. I think they said $40 million a year. Prepare yourself. A left wing media organization will pay Stephen Colbert over $100 million contract. Just prepare yourself for. To Buck's point, this is something that I think the right could do a better job of. There are lots of billionaires out there. You and I are fortunate. We've been able to make a living and a good living doing this. There are lots of people who struggle because they have politically unpopular opinions. I think the left does a way better job basically protecting and giving their advocates ability to make a living in media than the right does. Would you agree with that? That like there isn't like these.

[Buck Sexton]

The left takes care of their ideological warriors. They get canceled. They get. Remember Keith Olbermann who if you've seen on Twitter by the way is. Is completely deranged and has been for a long time and shown us even more recently how deranged he is. He is somebody who when he left MSNBC or was really pushed out at msnbc, remember he signed some preposterous deal with, I think was Current TV at the time. This is going back.

[Clay Travis]

Al Gore owned Current tv.

[Buck Sexton]

That's right. And he never had more than a few thousand viewers at a time. And the whole thing was. But he was making some absurd amount of money to do that. My point is that the left takes care of their people. Left wing billionaires. Left wing billionaires in this country, not just George Soros. There's a bunch of them, there's Reid Hoffman, there's others. They make sure that fringe and delusional voices are well paid, well funded and well distributed. And that has a massive negative impact on our conversations nationally, really about everything. I would also just add right now, Clay, in the background, we've got CNN here in the office with us. Of course, Jeff Flake, he who was, was shouted at over the Kavanaugh thing. Remember that? Jeff Flake and Gabby Giffords have written a piece together saying for an end to political violence. Well, our side, we're actually always opposed to political violence. We don't wait. And this for me from a lot of Democrats has a hint of the call for ceasefire after October 7 to it, you know, something horrible happened. One person's responsible, maybe more. There might be co conspirators and I don't want to preclude that. But one person we know is responsible for the act. But for the encouragement of the ideology, for the encouragement of the demonization. No, this is a broad left wing Democrat problem and that they want to do this. Both sidesism drives me up the wall. And especially after what just happened. Notice, Clay, there's no, there's no accountability among people on the left for this. There's no sense that our rhetoric got overheated and crazy on this stuff. They just say, yeah, well, you know, it happens on both teams and no it doesn't. By the way, I can sit here and rattle off all the, the only thing that they will point to that has any real connection to Trump world is January 6th. And the only person who was killed on January 6th was a Trump supporter shot in the neck when she was unarmed. And you know, this is, that's it. This is the only thing that they can say. And I just feel like we can't play into their hands by pretending like this isn't a problem that needs to be confronted squarely on the Democrat side of things. Because it is.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. And I think we can get into some interesting discussion on the celebration of Charlie Kirk's death. I don't know how you feel about this, but if you are a taxpayer funded employee and you go on social media, certainly if you're an elementary school teacher. Did you see the story Buck, about the. I've got a 10 year old about the teacher.

[Buck Sexton]

We have people calling in, by the way, who have experienced what you're saying right now themselves. So we'll take those calls about the.

[Clay Travis]

Teacher who played the assassination of Charlie Kirk in his classroom and told the kids that Charlie Kirk deserved to be killed. I can't believe that's possible.

[Buck Sexton]

Let me point this out. There are two pilots who are now suspended. I'm not sure if they've been fired yet for major airlines. You saw this. Who also were in the celebrating Charlie Kirk's assassination. I do not feel safe with someone driving an airplane with 200 people. If I, you know that I'm one of. I do not feel safe with a pilot who celebrates political assassination of an American. And I don't think that's a strange position to have at all. I don't want to be on that person's plane. I don't trust their psych. I don't think they're psychologically fit to be at the controls of a commercial jet.

[Clay Travis]

I couldn't believe that I. Yes on that. Also, I couldn't believe the number of people who were in uniform posting videos celebrating Charlie Kirk being assassinated. I don't think you should be able to be a police officer. I don't think you should be able to be a member of our military. Our taxpayer dollars are funding you. And you, some of these guys in uniform are celebrating Charlie Kirk being murdered. And I've said this for a long time, people get fired up on First Amendment in uniform at work. You shouldn't be, in my opinion, advocating for anything politically. This is an easy test. If I go to Walmart and I go through the checkout line and the person at Walmart says, hey, here's my opinion on abortion when they're like checking me out for my, in my, my food, no, you should be fired, right? If I go up to McDonald's and try to get a hamburger and the person taking the order says, you know, meats murder, maybe you should get a salad instead. You should be fired, right? In uniform at work. No one has the right to advocate for politics. And I don't even see political perspective on, hey, murder is good. I think you should get fired if you're at work and you're advocating and if you're taxpayer funded. It's crazy to me. The number of people who have failed a basic test of humanity of hey, is it okay to kill a dad if you disagree with him politically. There are tens of millions maybe of Americans right now who would say yay for that. I know they would celebrate if you or I got murdered. I mean that's the reality.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in Clay. TRAVIS Buck Sexton show. We are working through the continued fallout of the assassination of Charlie Kirk from Wednesday, and there are a lot of different reactions that are pouring in. But I do think we should play Erica Kirk's inspiring comments that she made on Friday evening. In case some of you missed this, this is cut eight. Erica Kirk, Charlie Kirk's widow, two young children. Listen to this.

[Caller]

Evil doers responsible for my husband's assassination have no idea what they have done. They killed Charlie because he preached a message of patriotism, faith, and of God's merciful love. But they should all know this. If you thought that my husband's mission was powerful before. You have no idea. You have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country in this world. You have no idea. You have no idea the fire that you have ignited within this wife. The cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry to everyone listening tonight, across America, the movement my husband built will not die. It won't. I refuse to let that happen. It will not die.

[Buck Sexton]

Powerful. I mean, I was watching it over the weekend, Clay. I was traveling and I watched and I actually gave a speech on Friday night in Las Vegas. And Erica had spoken just before I went on stage. And everybody was saying, did you see Erica's speech? I said, yeah. And a lot, A lot of tears. A lot of tears. But also just People in awe of the strength, the poise and the power of her words. Given the circumstances, I mean, none of us could even imagine what she's going through.

[Clay Travis]

I thought it was powerful. I went on immediately after and did the Sean Hannity show on Friday, his television show on Fox News and I 48 hours after her husband dies. Super positive story that is out there is the number of people who are starting turning point organizations, young people on campuses, on high school campuses. I mentioned that my sons, my two oldest sons. Happy 15th birthday, by the way, to Lincoln. Today is, today is my middle son's 15th birthday. So happy birthday, big guy. And he and his brother and most of their school wore ties and suit coats in honor of Charlie Kirk. They had a on campus meeting that they couldn't even fit all the people in the room. I think this is happening on campuses all over the country. I think it is an incredibly positive reaction. We'll continue to update you on all of this, including Dan Lanning. I thought Buck really powerful statements, particularly when you consider that he is Oregon's football coach, that he is, you know, dealing in a state that is not necessarily very receptive. We'll play you some of those cuts in a minute. And I was in Knoxville, Tennessee over the weekend for the Georgia Tennessee game. And the number of you out there that came up to me when was absolutely fantastic to talk about Charlie Kirk. And I, I was just, it was great to be out in a public arena and if you are going to football games, if you are a fan of sports in general, I bet a lot of you were watching college football and the NFL over the weekend. How about the big Texas A and M win over Notre Dame Eagles take down the Chiefs. Unfortunately, my Tennessee Volunteers missed a chip shot field goal, Georgia one in overtime. You can get hooked up right now with prize picks. You can play in California, you can play in Georgia, you can play in my home state of Tennessee, you can play in Buck state of Florida. You get $50 instantly. We'll give you a pick on Thursday to let you know what we got going for all of you. $50 when you play $5. Just go to prizepix.com use code click clay. That's prizepix.com my name clay. One more time, prizepix.com my Name clay. Sign up today.

[Buck Sexton]

All right, welcome back in to Clay and Buck. We're going to talk a bit here about the unhinged and demonic reaction to the assassination last week of our friend Charlie Kirk. It's important that everyone understand what is going on here and that we not push aside or sweep this under the rug or anything. People need to know what some of the nurses, some of the pilots, some of the teachers, some of the go down the list, what they think about this or what they're saying publicly about this. I will point out Bill Maher on his show. This is cut 30. And he said this to me before. And I'll get into, Clay, what he's said to me, because I think it goes right to this. But there is a huge difference, even in just whether someone who is a leftist will talk to you or not if they know you're conservative. Play 30.

[Bill Maher]

They're the people who don't want to talk. It's my main issue with them. And Charlie Kirk was a guy who, like, he was always talking, and I talked to him here. You know, the right wingers say what you want about them, but they talk to you. They're not into this leftist think that the left think really has much more of a. I don't talk to you. I don't want to deal with you. You're deplorable. I can't break bread with you. That attitude. And like all the right wingers, they don't have that attitude. No, again, I didn't vote for them. And Charlie Kirk and I certainly don't agree on much politically. But he sat here. He's a human being. He's not a monster. And a husband and a father. Yes. And I liked him. I liked them all. They're all nice people when you meet them in person. And they're not as crazy as they would. Nobody's as crazy as they make them out to be.

[Buck Sexton]

Say, Bill, when I did a show the first time, I don't even know now, Clay, years ago, and this is one of our first conversations backstage. He's like, I appreciate that you come here and you say what you say and you tell people what you think, but you're nice to everybody. You're cordial, you're not being a jerk. And he said you're one of these happy warriors. I think that's a term very well applied to Charlie Kirk. Many have already said it. Happy warriors. Ideological or idea warriors.

[Clay Travis]

Right.

[Buck Sexton]

That's the whole point. It's supposed to be exchanging ideas. I don't take the positions that I take, and neither did Charlie. Neither do you, Clay. To make anyone feel badly, it's because we want to share the truth with other people. I actually want them to agree with me. I'd rather, much rather have them say, you Know what, you've got a point. Or you know what, you're right than to feel mocked and belittled or attacked. That's actually not the point. I mean that can happen sometimes because of the way these exchanges go. But that's not the point of the exchange. But I know you're looking at this. I mean, there is a movement now to create a searchable database online for people that are celebrating, and that is the appropriate word, they are celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk, which is so monstrous and so disgusting. What are you seeing about the numbers that have been gathered so far?

[Clay Travis]

Supposedly 50,000 names. And here's the way that I would analyze this. 50,000 people who have gone on social media and celebrated the assassination. The way that I would work through it is this. I think if you are a public employee, I think you should be fired. That is, when I say public employee, I mean taxpayer funded. If you're a member of the military, if you are a member of police, if you are a member of first responding communities, firefighters, I think everyone who has gone on social media and celebrated a political assassination should be fired. I don't believe our taxpayer dollars should go for that. If you are, the University of Tennessee, for example, just announced that they have fired a faculty member who celebrated Charlie Kirk's assassination. If you are a teacher, I certainly do not believe that you should be in charge of molding young minds if you are celebrating political assassination. When it comes to people who are employed by private companies, I owned a company, I sold it, I would fire anyone at my company When I own the company who went on social media and said in any way this is celebratory, I think individual business owners should have that right. I don't think certainly it should be mandated if you're a private employee, if you did it in uniform at work, to me it's a no brainer. I would do it individually. But again, if you are taxpayer funded and I think we should have a pretty bright red line and I think the bright red line should be you shouldn't celebrate, hey, if Rachel Maddow got assassinated, if Barack Obama had gotten assassinated, you should be fired. If you are a military member, if you're a police officer, I think you can easily kind of work through this and I don't have a problem with that at all. Private employers I think should be able to to make their own decision.

[Buck Sexton]

We'll take some calls here. Krista in Florida with a story that ties right into what we're talking about. Welcome, Krista.

[Caller]

Hi, Clay and Buck, thank you so much for taking my call. I really appreciate it. This is. It's been shocking. It's been heartbreaking, but I just want to read you from this man's LinkedIn page. Firefighter, EMT. Hazardous materials specialist. Chemical material.

[Clay Travis]

Sorry, sorry. Let me. Let me say. Can you not share full name? Because, look, there could be.

[Caller]

I will not.

[Clay Travis]

There could be somebody having imposters. I just don't want this station to be putting people on blast with us knowing anymore. Okay, thank you.

[Caller]

No, absolutely not. I will not say the name. Just the credentials. Yes, because then the most shocking part of that was this was my children's youth ministry leader, and he has. You know, he. He was working with my young adults.

[Buck Sexton]

And what did he.

[Clay Travis]

What did he say specifically?

[Caller]

He. He celebrated one less maggot on the world.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, my God.

[Clay Travis]

I just.

[Caller]

He was insulting our priest for praying.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, look, I appreciate you calling. Anyone who is involved in children should be, in my opinion, immediately fired from their job if they are in any way celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

[Buck Sexton]

You know, thank you for calling.

[Clay Travis]

Thank you.

[Buck Sexton]

I know that's a tough thing.

[Clay Travis]

And a youth minister. I mean, come on.

[Buck Sexton]

Because it feels like such a betrayal. You've entrusted your kids to this person for their moral development. Youth minister. And you can't understand the obvious, unbelievable and demonic moral failure of celebrating this in any way, shape or form.

[Clay Travis]

It's.

[Buck Sexton]

It's stunning. And we're seeing so much of this, and. And I just. I don't know. I. Clay, It's. It has made me think that this country has a. Has a darker future than I had anticipated before just because this. This has to be confronted. And I would just point out. And that's why I don't like this. Oh, it's on both sides. And let's just all do dialogue now. No, Charlie was doing dialogue. That's the point. His whole movement was built on peaceful dialogue. And this is what happened. And look at all these people who are celebrating this. And now there's also this. Really, Honestly, it's just so lame. But this effort to say, well, conservatives are doing cancel culture now. Everyone who's saying that if any person in any job said a particular racial slur, they would all demand the immediate firing of that person, probably in any context whatsoever. They all absolutely believe in people being fired from their jobs for offending or for political reasons or whatever, but now they're pretending like this isn't so.

[Clay Travis]

They.

[Buck Sexton]

They obviously have their red lines. They're pretending like this, celebrating the assassination of a father, a husband, a young guy, 31 years old. That's not a red line. Like you should keep your job even after you have brought that kind of infamy on whatever organization you work for. That's insane.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. And I also think this is where I always try to think on preced. And I know this is challenging, but I don't even know who the equivalent of Charlie Kirk would be on the left. But I've just used the name Rachel Maddow. Buck's right that she's not a perfect analogy. They don't have a perfect analogy because their arguments are bad and they don't really believe in free speech.

[Buck Sexton]

By and large they are very much trying to build up somebody on the left now as the new person for the youth. And he's a. I'm not gonna say his name on the show. He's a very bad person. He's just a bad human being. So I don't want to, but there's someone on the left that they're wrote an op ed for the New York Times, as I understand it about this issue is a. I could play clips on this show. The fact the New York Times would give that guy. Well, the New York Times is a disgrace too. But it's interesting to me because our Charlie was a good and decent human being just completely without getting into his politics. And the left, of course, the person that they want to build up is an outright scumbag. Outright scumbag. Just so you just, just so anyone who's curious knows he does. Does understand this guy does understand Internet culture and online video games. That I will say, but that's about it.

[Clay Travis]

Well, let's use Rachel Maddow as an example or this unnamed guy. I also think if they were assassinated at a free speech event and you went on and you celebrated that as a teacher, as a faculty member at a university, as a first responder, as anyone who's employed by taxpayers. I think you should be fired for that too. So I think you can easily to me setting the precedent of where is the line that we draw. And again, I think private employers should be able to make their own decisions. I would have the same standard both directions. I would fire someone when I ran my own company. And I have expansive First Amendment beliefs. But people don't celebrate death.

[Buck Sexton]

Let's understand something. So, so is the standard that the left thinks that we're all supposed to live by that you can say absolutely anything and I mean anything and keep your job. Of course they wanted people to get Fired for using the wrong pronouns. Okay, These are the people that now all of a sudden are free speech absolutists. The first amendment means that the government can't take action against you for what you say. It doesn't mean that your private employer has to keep you employed no matter what you do and no matter what you say in public. That's not what it means.

[Clay Travis]

So I know that's why to me, I mean, again, you break it down. I think in times of emotion it's challenging, but there is a standard for basic humanity. And if you celebrate the murder of dads and moms for sharing their political opinions, in my opinion, you have failed the basic standard of humanity. If you fail the basic standard of humanity, I don't want you employed at my company. I don't want you instructing my children. If you are taxpayer funded, then I think you, if you fail the basic standard of humanity, you shouldn't be taxpayer funded anymore. Now, individual owners of businesses, I think they should have the right to decide who they employ and not. But this is not a tough call to me. We can debate sometimes gray areas of hey, what is acceptable speech, what's not. Cheering Assassination. You should get fired. In my always humble opinion, this is not a tough call.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. Tons of you weighing in, not surprisingly, on a variety of different topics. But Buck, you want to punch some of these up? Let's say, by the way, Senator Marsha Blackburn going to join us about the Memphis National Guard call out. Top of the next hour.

[Buck Sexton]

What we got, Buck, Sandy in Memphis. Let's take her call. What's going on, Sandy?

[Caller]

Hey, guys, love your show. I'm not sure if y' all mentioned this or not, but Harvey Levin is the TMZ guy and he's he was on air when Charlie Kirk's death was announced and in the background were all his people he employs and they were literally cheering and laughing and cheering and.

[Buck Sexton]

So Sandy, can I jump in just because I did watch this video? I just want to point something out, and I'm not saying that that I agree or rather that I think this is true or not. They came on air and said, oh, the cheering you heard wasn't for that. It was for a car chase going on nearby. I find that, you know, very convenient under the circumstances I'll say that. But I just want to be clear. They did try to claim right away that those were not related.

[Caller]

Okay, I'm glad you said that, because I did know Hair. Harvey, or whatever his name is, did put out a statement, but the statement I saw said we were not laughing at that. But he never followed up with. A normal person would say, I mean, Clay, did you.

[Buck Sexton]

Did you see this?

[Clay Travis]

I saw both.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, first of all, Harvey wasn't laughing at it, but there was. There was laughter in the background, or not laughter, cheering in the background. Background. But they, in the moment, within a few seconds, said, I just want to be clear that's we're covering an unrelated issue, a car chase right now. So, I mean, I just want to be fair that they didn't say that an hour later. They said that, like five seconds after you heard the. The cheering or, you know, the cheering going on.

[Clay Travis]

I think that's. Look, I want to.

[Buck Sexton]

It was quick enough that I think it maybe was true is what I'm saying.

[Clay Travis]

I want to make sure we focus on people that are intentionally cheering for murders to take place. And there are tens of thousands of them on social media who want their opinions to be. To be shared.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, you know, I think given the speed of the. Of the. That wasn't for the Charlie situation. And it was said right then. I, you know, I think you give them a little. I think they maybe deserve the benefit of the doubt. I don't really know TMZ very well. I just know it's kind of tabloid stuff. Yeah, I can't really speak to, like, I don't know, Harvey. I don't know what they're like in that. You know, if it had been some other organizations out there, I'd be like, well, it's definitely a lie. So.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. I also think, remember, the standard here is very lenient. Don't celebrate a murder in public. You could still. We can't see into people's hearts. You could still be happy that it happened. All we're saying is you. And by the way, I'm not defending that. That's still a failure of your own humanity. It's a next level step to say, I want the entire public to be aware that I'm happy a dad got assassinated for his political beliefs.

[Buck Sexton]

That video that you and I have both seen is one of the worst things I've ever seen in my entire life. And I've seen a lot of horrible things because of the work that I used to do. That's one of the worst things I've ever seen in my life. I mean, I can't think of something that is more soul crushing and grotesque than the video of what happened to Charlie up there. So how could that not hit someone, you know, right in their soul? How could they not understand right away? Like this is the most basic human thing. I, I'm, I'm appalled when, I'm appalled by what is going on with these tens of thousands of people celebrating.

[Clay Travis]

When I talked with my sons about the Charlie Kirk assassination and my two oldest boys were big fans of Charlie Kirk. They watched his videos, they're active on tick tock and YouTube and they circulated and were influential there to such an extent that many of our young men in particular have seen these videos. One of my boys said, dad, do you think Charlie Kirk's kids are gonna grow up and one day watch the video of their dad getting assassin?

[Buck Sexton]

I hope not. I don't think there's any reason for them to ever see it. And I hope nobody ever, you know, crosses that line. They shouldn't see.

[Clay Travis]

It just hit me right in the solar plexus. I just, I couldn't because I was seeing it through their eyes and thinking about the dad that those kids will never know. And that video being out there is just, it's just brutal frankly to brutal to think about. When we come back, we'll talk with Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee about the National Guard guard being called out in Memphis, what she thinks should happen. And we just mentioned the University of Tennessee. A lot of different universities are dealing with this. Faculty members. University of Tennessee just fired a celebratory faculty member. We'll talk about that and more.

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