B (2:37)

Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we're rolling through the second hour of the program encourage you, as always, go subscribe to the podcast. Also you can find us on YouTube. You can go click like and subscribe there. We are on every social media platform under the sun and we are joined now by Bill O'Reilly. You can find him certainly all over the Internet now@bill o'reilly.com. he's got regular articles there. He is a best selling author who has got one bestseller after another. And we were just actually talking about Whoopi Goldberg. Said, Bill, that Trump will just have no legacy whatsoever and he will vanish on the idiot show the view that she enjoys appearing on. And Buck and I both feel like Trump is definitely the most consequential figure of the 21st century. And Bill, I said I would put Trump right now behind only Reagan in my life as the best presidents. Now, you're a little bit older than me, but I was born in the last year of Jimmy Carter's presidency. You're a history guy, though. Where would you put Trump? And how do you assess Biden since we know Biden's 10 years over? How do you think history views this era, those guys?

C (4:03)

Well, first of all, we have to take Whoopi Goldberg seriously because she was in a movie called Ghost where she could see everything that happened. So I'm sure that carried over to her real life. And we know she has a PhD in history and political science, a combination which is extraordinary. So we can't just dismiss Ms. Goldberg out of hand. I'm being, of course, facetious. I read a book called Confronting the Presidents, which is right behind Confronting Evil, which is out now. We twinned them up. By the way, you can get both books on BillOrWilly.com for a very fine price. Now, every time I see President Trump, and the last time was five days ago in the White House. So he spent 40 minutes with him. He's asking me the same question that you just asked me. So what's my legacy? Am I number one yet?

C (4:58)

And you know, I.

C (5:01)

Can'T be blunt. He's never going to be number one. Abraham Lincoln will always be the best president the United States.

B (5:09)

So hold up the president. You're in the Oval Office. This is, this is a great scene. You're in the Oval Office with the president. And the president, who trusts your historical acumen, is saying, hey, Bill, how do you rank? This is very, very funny. So he's asking you directly, hey, where do I rank right now? And you told him, I mean, I love this. You told him what exactly?

C (5:29)

I told him that you know, he's going, I should be number one. That's the statement he makes. I said, you'll never be number one. You know me. I mean, I don't pander to anybody. I said, you're never going to be number one because Lincoln was so extraordinary and held the union together when few other presidents would have been able to do that. But you're in the top 10 right now and you're the hardest working president of all time. No president has ever approached the work ethic of Donald Trump. And it's not even close. There's not even a close second to that. And I said, but a lot of your policies are yet to be known as far as their effectiveness is concerned. You got the border in your pocket. Okay? And you also have accomplishments because you followed the second worst president in our history, Joe Biden. Only James Buchanan, who led up to Lincoln and who was an abject coward and allowed the south to arm itself for four years in preparation of the war of rebellion and began and did nothing, knew it, was too afraid to do anything about it. Worst president ever. Biden's number two. Why? Because in four years, Joe Biden did not solve one problem in this country, not one. And all my liberal friends who voted for him and Kamala Harris, when I say to them very politely, because I don't get angry about political differences, that's foolish. When I say, all right, give me one thing that he did, Joe.

D (7:16)

I'm sorry, Bill, I got to jump in real quick. You're leaving out that President Biden solved Hunter's legal issues, which, to be fair, he swooped in on that one.

C (7:26)

Okay, well, I, I'll, I'll debate you on that anytime you want, but they, the people who voted for him cannot come up with one.

B (7:38)

Yeah, well, they certainly don't care that.

D (7:40)

Hunter got a pardon or if they do, I think they don't like it.

B (7:42)

But you're right.

C (7:44)

If it were Donald Trump Jr.

C (7:48)

President Trump would have done the same thing. So I'm an honest guy.

B (7:52)

Yep.

C (7:53)

All right. So Trump has.

D (7:56)

I was kidding about the pardon thing. I'm not, I'm not trying to divert you from what you're saying. He clearly is a terrible president who didn't manage to solve much of anything. But I also wanted to ask you, Bill, if I could, the president, the current president, who you say is excellent, not number one, he probably was a little miffed at that, but that's ok. He's an excellent president. He's going on a affordability tour of sorts, going to eastern Pennsylvania, because I think there's a recognition even in this White House that despite the excellent policies, there's frustration with the economy. On affordability, do you think Trump's making the right move here by going, do you think that this is something that the White House can successfully address so we don't lose the control of house in the midterms?

C (8:36)

Well, on the night before Thanksgiving, I was at the Islander hockey game, and the puck was about to drop, and I got a phone call from President Trump.

C (8:48)

Right at the game. Now, when a president calls you, you got to take the call. He can't go to voicemail. All right? So I got a private office, the owner of the team is a friend of mine, and President Trump can proceed to yell at me for 10 minutes. All right. Which is not unusual.

C (9:06)

And when he gets going, you can't interrupt. He's like, all right. Essence of the disenchantment with O'Reilly was that I was reporting that the affordability situation could very much hurt him because all he has to do is go back to 2018 midterms. He got whacked, Trump got whacked, and Obama got whacked. And midterms are very difficult to hold power. And the press is pounding every second. Affordability, affordability, affordability. Now, the stats are not bad for Trump. They're not, in fact, on the no Spin news tonight. I'll lay them all out for you. But if you have a specific stat you want, I'll give it to you now. The economy is in pretty good shape. Stock market's good, 401k people, retirement plan, people prospering. You can get a job if you want it. Wages are up. Bacon is up. If you like bacon, you're paying more for bacon, okay? But a whole number of other foods are down. So this is a contrived thing, with one exception. Insurance costs are killing working Americans, killing them. Health insurance, car insurance, house insurance. That after President Trump got through yelling at me, I said, all right, it's my job to report what's happening. Mr. President, of course, you're not going to like some of it, but I'm fair. This is what you have to do. You got to get out there and you got to tell people in 26, here's what we're going to do to bring down these prices very specifically so. I think he followed my advice, but I'm sure he got that advice from other people as well. I'm not taking credit for it. And he's out in Pennsylvania tonight.

B (11:13)

Bill, this is A little bit of a pivot. But the last time we had you on, we had a caller who wanted us to ask you about Patton's death.

D (11:22)

Yeah.

B (11:23)

And whether you bought into, and I know you wrote about the death of Patton in your killing series, what you thought about his death, whether he wrote.

D (11:33)

A book, Killing Patton.

B (11:34)

Yeah. Whether what your take is on that death and what occurred.

C (11:41)

Okay, first of all, you get all the books. And this is a shameless plug, but you guys are nice. You can get all 13 killing books in the two confronting books in one package on bill o'reilly.com which will save you hundreds of dollars, Christmas gift expenses because people want these books. Okay. So you get 15, you dole them out. You add up the money that you spent on that as opposed to what you would spend on 15 individual gifts. You're way ahead. Bill O'Reilly.com killing Patton. We walk through the whole career of the best American general in World War II, second best in history next to John Pershing. Pershing was the best. Okay. Patton was second at the end of his life. Many very strange things happened to George Patton. None of them added up. He should not have died in that hospital in Luxembourg.

C (12:47)

So a lot of people, including me, suspect that he was murdered. Who would want to murder him? Russia, Stalin, Soviet Union. And they had access because remember, they were our allies in World War II because Patton wanted to fight them. He did not want to stop because he knew that the Soviet Union was going to be replace Hitler and the Nazis as our main enemy.

B (13:18)

So when you say he was killed, sorry to cut you off. Do you mean that in the. Oh, poisoned in the wake of the car accident while he was recovering. Okay.

C (13:28)

Poisoned in the hospital. And the car accident itself did not make any sense. And we trace it in killing. Pat, you can. It did not make any sense.

C (13:41)

So anyway, that I'm not a conspiracy guy. You guys know that I don't deal with that. I am a reporter and what I lay out is 100% accurate. The only resolution to this is to exhume the general's body, which is in Europe and test. They did that for Zachary Taylor. Zachary Taylor got that treatment. Then they won't do it for Patton.

D (14:10)

Yeah, we have a caller.

B (14:15)

Bill.

D (14:16)

We had a caller who called in who said, who claimed that his father was the driver for the car when Patton was in that accident you mentioned. Just wanted you to hear this. This is 31.

B (14:27)

You say your dad was driving the car when Patton was killed. When he died in the car accident.

C (14:33)

Yes, he was okay, well, what did.

B (14:35)

Your dad tell you about that?

C (14:37)

He actually died nine days later. He was driving a 38 Cadillac limo and Patton was sitting in the back on the edge of the seat as usual and they were waiting for a train to pass. And he passed, he pulled away, got up to about 25 miles an hour and there was a personnel carrier about a quarter mile down the road that pulled out at the same time. And when they got to each other, the personnel carrier turned right into the Cadillac and Patton flew forward, hit his forehead on the partition between the front, the back, scalped his scalp himself and broke his neck.

B (15:15)

And so from your perspective, your dad told you there is no conspiracy. There is for people out there that have bought not believe that this was a traffic accident and it was a freak accident in some way based on the speed. But Patton died.

C (15:30)

Yeah, my dad never talked about any conspiracies about it or anything like that. But I mean there's three drunk GI's that all disappeared. You know, they were in, they were in the personnel carrier and you know, Pat was starting to do a lot better and then he died all of a sudden.

D (15:47)

Hey Bill, take it away. What do you make of it.

C (15:51)

Man? I believe that his father was the driver. The three soldiers he cited. That, that is unbelievable evidence. I mean when you get a general, a four star dying in this kind of circumstance, you would interview everybody and nothing was done. Nothing was done. Washington feared that Patton, that would be Harry Truman, the Democratic Party, because Patton was going to run for President. He was going to come back to the United States and run just as Eisenhower did. And Eisenhower of course won. And so there were a lot of reasons that Patton had a lot of enemies, but the big enemy was Stalin and Stalin had access.

C (16:38)

So I'm not saying.

C (16:41)

That Patton was murdered because I cannot prove it. What I am saying is that you could find out if this general was poisoned or not. And nobody is.

C (16:55)

Apparently wants to do that.

D (16:57)

So that's the, but the, the, the point about he had a turn for the worse in the hospital. I mean that was, it's interesting that, that he was, it seemed he was getting better then all of a sudden. And so you're saying that all of a sudden to you is very suspicious. You'd like to get to the bottom of it or people to get to the bottom of it with the testing of, of Patton's remains.

C (17:14)

Yeah. If you read Killing Patton, anybody very interested in the subject, should we really walk through it in a non hysterical way? So we have all the eyewitness reports in there. And you know, in my style, my style is I'm not boring you. I am moving this story along. But I'm not a guy who ordinarily buys into this stuff. But here you had motive, you had accessibility, you had enemies both abroad and at home. And George is a tough guy. He was a big, strong guy. And it just doesn't stack.

B (18:00)

Bill, thank you for hanging out with us here. Good Christmas gift, as you said. Bill O'Reilly.com for not only kill.

C (18:07)

Real quick, I know you got to hit a break.

C (18:11)

President Trump asked me to give him Confronting Evil.

C (18:17)

Specifically for the chapter on Putin because we trace what has happened to Putin. He's not the same guy that Trump was dealing with in the first term. And the president wrote me a really nice note after he read.

C (18:37)

Confronting Evil. So I just want you people to know that that is out there.

B (18:43)

That's outstanding. Thank you for the background stories. We'll talk to you again probably after the first of the new year. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year to you.

C (18:51)

Okay, guys. You too. Have fun. Thank you.

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B (22:51)

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D (23:59)

Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. So we have much to discuss with with the Trump roundtable that occurred yesterday. We were just talking to Bill O'Reilly about the situation of affordability. And Bill is saying that that's there's a lot of perception driving that, more so even than the actual cold hard numbers. If you look into it, which I'm sure that is, that is the case. But Trump at an Econ roundtable, look, he's going to Pennsylvania to address affordability because it's a political issue, whether the numbers bear that out entirely or not. And a lot of people do feel like, well, first of all, prices are high. They've remained high. So you have to get into, ok, is it that affordability is not an issue or is that it's not Trump's fault that affordability is an issue or a whole range of things. But one thing that that is definitely the case that came up is Obamacare. Clay, these new Obamacare premiums, they're just going up and up and networks are getting smaller and smaller. And sure enough, the whole promise of Obamacare has fallen apart. And that's been the case for a long time. Trump here, this is cut 21 was saying, look, it's been great for the insurance companies. It's been really bad for people that actually need health care.

C (25:13)

Play 21 the insurance companies stock has gone up by 1700%, 1800%. They're taking in trillions of dollars. I don't want to pay the insurance company companies anything. And I know a lot of them, but they're owned by the Democrats and the Democrats have Obamacare is a setup to make insurance companies rich. And I want to pay the people and I want the people to go out and buy their own health care. And that's what we want to do. And that's what the Republicans want to do. Because Obamacare is a disaster.

D (25:48)

Clay. It is a disaster. And it's time Republicans dig into this so that Democrats can't control the messaging going into the midterms.

B (25:55)

All of healthcare. It is a disaster. And I don't care if you're a Democrat, Republican or Independent. Nobody has any idea what things cost. Nobody is happy. I would submit to you that everyone's least favorite thing almost in the world is having to get on the phone with an insurance company adjuster and try to explain why you're being overcharged to the extent that you can even tell what your bill has on it. It is all just a huge game of hide the hide the ball. And what Trump is saying is in essence a very real position. And honestly, I think most people in out there would probably prefer this. It's let you have the money and then make your own decisions about what health care you need. I don't even think most people realize if they're not the employer, what percentage of your overall salary goes for health care now. But this is crazy. I mean, there are lots of people out there paying 25, 30, $35,000 a year for your health care plans inside of whatever job you get. And you don't see that money. You don't have any idea how it's being allocated. I think huge percentages of people out there listening to us would like to get all of that money tax free to themselves and then be able to make the choices about how to best allocate those resources for them and their family. And so what we basically have is a huge subsidy for all the health insurance companies of America. That is what Obamacare is. And the problem here, Buck, is the math. We have way more older people entering into needing substantial amounts of healthcare than we do young people. And by the way, this is not just for healthcare. This is Social Security. This is everything. All of these government policies are predicated on constantly having way more young people than we do old people. And in the next 20, 30, 40 years, the reality is we're going to have way more old people than we are young people. And that's true in a lot of countries. And the shell game, the hide the ball aspects of this are going to become more and more prominent and people are going to get angrier because they don't feel like they're getting a good value for their money. I mean, I hate to say it, but this is part of what motivated the UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting is people are just misallocating anger and, and in Many ways lashing out when you see what.

D (28:30)

The real structure of Obamacare is. You have to have a lot of young, healthy people who don't use very much in the way of health care resources to spend into a system that is going to put a huge majority of it on older, sicker people. And that's what. So the whole system is a redistribution of wealth via health care. And then beyond that, there's also people who are getting subsidized in the. In the programs and on these exchanges. That's what was really at issue in this shutdown. Government just funneling money into it to make it seem not as bad as it really is for individuals. But you have a lot of people who are getting massive subsidies because if they had to pay what the market rate is based upon the system of redistribution, the pricing on this would be insane. I mean, you'd be paying 50 grand a year for health insurance, remember, not for health care. You're still on the hook to pay for your health care. You know, you know, 20% of the hundred percent of the. Whatever percent they say is like, you know, customary and normal, or however they, you know, phrase the language so that they can play all these games, the insurance companies. So that's a giant mess. And then there's also this because we've been discussing the boat strikes in mostly in the Caribbean against the narco terrorists. This is Trump with ABC's Rachel Scott. A little bit of a back and forth here. There's now a push, Clay, to have the video released because clearly we have video because we were. They were under ISR. They're under surveillance. This is cut 20. Trump doesn't like this request.

C (29:59)

Whatever he wants to do is okay with.

A (30:01)

He now says it's under review. Are you ordering the Secretary to release that full video?

C (30:06)

Whatever he decides is okay with me. So every boat we knock out of the water, every boat we save 25,000American lives. That was a boat loaded up with drugs. I saw the video. They were trying to turn the boat back to where it could float, releasing the full video. Didn't I just tell you that?

B (30:25)

You said that it was Secretary, obnoxious.

C (30:27)

Reporter in the whole place. Let me just say you are an obnoxious, A terrible. Actually a terrible reporter. And it's always the same thing with you. I told you, whatever Pete Hegseth wants to do is okay with me.

D (30:40)

There you go, Clay, laying it down.

B (30:43)

They're trying to create a fall guy here. They tried to create the Admiral as the fall guy. They tried to create Hegseth as the fall guy. They've tried to create Trump as the fall guy. This story, other than on the far left wing, has vanished as soon as the video was shown in behind closed doors in Congress. Now, I know some Democrats came out and they said, oh, my goodness, I can't believe this happened. But the fact that the story vanished kind of tells you what the video is going to show. And I presume the video will show what has been reported already. And the numbers came out from the Harvard Harris poll that I believe it was 58% of Americans support the strikes that are going on with Venezuelan narco boats. 42% disagree. And I bet if you show that video that it'll break down. About 60% of people will say, yeah, I agree with that. And about 40% will say, no, I disagree. But this is the world in which we're in where you kind of have people floundering in every direction trying to find something to be able to pin to Trump. And so far, they really aren't able to find anything. And I think it's going to be.

B (31:59)

A challenge going forward how exactly they convey their anger over Trump. And we come back, we can play audio because Susie Weilsbuck is telling everybody that Trump plans to be on the road campaigning starting in Pennsylvania right now to sell the agenda that he has put in place. And I grabbed a picture, I need to tweet it out again. I think a large degree of Trump's success is just being ignored because he solved things so quickly on the border that almost no one is able to even contemplate how quickly he solved things. And I was reading our buddy Ryan Gardusky this morning as I was doing my prep. The White House has said about 2 million people have self deported and or been removed who are illegals. And Ryan Gardusky looked at the data on newborns in the country and he said, actually the data does support the idea that there are increasing numbers of people leaving the country because they're not having kids. Non citizens, illegals are not having kids at the rates that they were before. But when you look at the graphic, it's really kind of amazing to see.

D (33:13)

Yes, the Trump immigration policies are working in ways that aren't even necessarily at the center of the conversation on immigration, but are very, very effective on the other side of things. You have Zoran Mamdani in New York City telling people how to telling illegals how to avoid law enforcement. This is cut 24. Listen to this one.

C (33:39)

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B (33:47)

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C (33:49)

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B (34:15)

You are legally allowed to film ICE.

C (34:16)

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D (34:24)

I just say, imagine if he did this for drug dealers. All of that would be true as well.

B (34:29)

Let me be clear.

D (34:30)

Everything that he said there is true in general, for any criminal, for any violation of law. All of that is true. But he's doing it for illegals because they're. They're a. For Democrats, Illegals are a protected class of person, Clay. And this is what is going to continue to be a huge problem for him. This is what is going to continue to drag them down because they can't avoid that reality without completely inflaming the left wing base of their party.

B (34:59)

Yeah, look. And they're on the wrong on this issue. They're on the wrong on every issue, which is why I think you're going to see them just try to pivot and blame Trump for the fact that Biden's inflation drove up the prices of goods so substantially. That's the reality. Even though inflation has come back down substantially. We're at 2.7%. I think target is 2%. People are just angry. And I get it, because it feels like goods cost more than they should. And until that starts to settle in, that rapid increase becomes embedded into our minds as to what things should cost. This is the pernicious nature of inflation. It is diabolical in its impact to frustrate everyone.

D (35:46)

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D (39:51)

All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. And we coming up here, talk more about the immigration issue, but also, Clay, did you see this guy who is Vietnamese by background, immigrant to America, and he has some things to say about what he sees as a immigrant from Vietnam to this country, what he sees going on with the Somali community in Minneapolis, which I thought was very interesting. And I think we shall get to that in just a few minutes, as well as taking all of your Christmas gift slash music slash holiday cheer recommendations from now through. I can't believe this. Next week is next week is the last week of full show before Christmas. So this time is flying by. And that's where we are. Mike in Minneapolis. CC on the talkbacks, let's hear what he has to say.

C (40:46)

The number one thing killing Americans from a financing standpoint is not insurance, it's taxes. We can't afford the taxes.

D (40:58)

That's a broad statement. I mean, I think, yeah, taxes are too high. We have to, we're overtaxed in general as a country. But I think we have to figure out, well, then what is the. What is the move? And the challenge that I see, Clay, is people say we're taxed too much. But then, you know, you start, even people who say that, you start to say, well, we got to either cut some money that we're spending or we got to figure something out. Nobody ever wants to believe that the government is Santa Claus. When push comes to shove, not everybody, but a lot of people want to believe the government is Santa Claus and can just make the goodies appear. No cost to anybody.

B (41:34)

Over 50% of people pay $0 in federal income tax. And many of those in the under 50% that are not paying actually get paid by the government. So when you say taxes are too high, that's an important fact. And look, I agree, basically, for some of you out there, if you live in Texas or you live in Florida, I mean, the way that I always think of it is you work half the year for the government. You don't work half the year for yourself. For me, because I live in Tennessee, basically, I work until May 31 to give money to the government. I don't start actually getting money in. So I'm paying, you know, 40% in taxes. I don't actually start getting money in my pocket until June 1st. Some of y' all out there don't get money in your pocket until July 1st or July 15th.

D (42:22)

You see, you see Jasmine Crockett video going around of her saying that she thinks that a path to or an approach to reparations would just be that black people don't have to pay taxes.

B (42:32)

Yeah.

D (42:33)

See this video, this is circulating as well. Interesting. I actually did the research on it. I was curious. Currently, 60% of black led households. So black American led household don't pay any federal income tax whatsoever.

B (42:48)

Yeah. I mean, you're already at 60. Now. People can say, well, we pay payroll taxes and people who have jobs do. And you can say, hey, we pay sales taxes and people who buy products do. But again, like, the government is just sucking up much of the dollars that people out there who work for a living get. Brad in Omaha has a question. Brad, what you got for us?

C (43:16)

Hey, thanks for taking your call. I'll admit I'm coming into the Lions den. I'm an independent left leaner. But much like Donald Trump should have known when gas prices were rising underneath his first term, I want to understand how Biden caused the inflation in your perspective that led into the current, the current Trump term that we have.

B (43:35)

Well, he was inflation when Biden came into office was 1.7% percent, I believe. And he immediately ensued spending trillions of dollars. He got not as much as he wanted to spend. And by June of 22, I think we were at 9.1% inflation. So I would say quite clearly, Biden thinking that the economy needed to be juiced drove inflation to record high levels in much of our lives.

D (44:02)

Yes, the Biden outlay in 2021 was $6.8 trillion. So you inject that much money into the economy in one year and guess what you get. Inflation. More money chasing fewer goods and services. The definition of inflation. So, Clay, that's how it happened. We'll come back in the third hour and talk about more of things happening.

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