Buck Sexton (2:58)

Co founder of Snapchat, Evan Spiegel, to name just a few. And we're asking you to decide if they're good, bad or just another billionaire. Good bad billionaire from the BBC World Service. Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts. Second hour of clay and Buck gets going right now. Thank you for being here, everybody. As you know, Clay hanging out with the Pope, eating some pasta, having a good time over in Rome. And he'll be back with us either Friday or Monday. I think it depends on his flight situation. And we have the near unanimous on the House one no vote and then the Senate all voted in favor of the release of the Epstein additional Epstein files. I'm just going to tell you this. There's going to be a lot of. Is it all of the files? Did they redact the files? Are there more classified versions of the files? Have they pulled stuff out? Have they covered, I mean, this is my, my concern with this is absolutely more transparency. Good, fine. Always in favor of more transparency. Is there such a thing as enough transparency that people will feel satisfied across the board? I don't think so. This has been going on, this investigation has been going on for a long time. The situation of Jeffrey Epstein spanned decades. There were a lot of things that happened on the government side that are by the official narrative, still inexplicable by the official narrative. Right. What we're being told. So I think it will end up being something along the lines of JFK, along the lines JFK's assassination, things like that, where people just ever believe that they have the full picture, so be prepared for that too. Some of you may feel that way yourselves. I don't think that there's going to be a big exhale of ok, finally we have all the answers, but we'll have more answers and that's a good thing. So I view it as more likely to be a step in a direction. Now, I also wanted to spend some time here on what Trump is trying. So again, that's happening, the release Trump's going to sign, it's coming out But Trump is hosting the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia. As you know, we talked about this a bit yesterday, and there was that very terse exchange with an ABC reporter who went after Mohammed bin Salman for the assassin, I mean, assassination of this guy Khashoggi and who's a journalist. And I think they like, buried his body in the yard of the consulate in Istanbul, right, Something like that. I mean, it was grisly stuff, but the world is the world that we live in. And learning to work with the Saudis and be operating in the interests of 350 million Americans, that's the goal. And that's what President Trump should and is doing. So he's trying to push things to Saudi Arabia. Remember Saudi Arabia. This is another part of this discussion that I think is worth bringing into it, is the single most important bulwark against Iranian ambitions and Iranian meddling and destabilization in the region. The Iranians are the Shia power of the Middle east, the Shia Muslim power of the Middle East. And the Saudis are host to the cities of Mecca and Medina, as you know, and they are the most powerful Sunni Arab nation in the Middle East. So if we're going to be working to box in the Iranians and make sure that that regime is, who knows how long it's going to be able to cling to power, but at least try to make sure that regime does as little damage as possible. The Saudis are a very important ally for us in that process. There's also the prospect of a full Saudi normalization with Israel diplomatically, trade wise. And if that were to happen, it would be a seismic, a seismic shift in the Middle east and the power dynamic and maybe put it on a much more stable path, not a perfect path, but a more stable path than what we've seen with the Middle east in the post World War II, World War, World War II, period, overall. So Trump said that there are some important agreements on. Let's get into this. This is just from the last hour. So this is just breaking, just getting out there now. This is cut 28. He was talking about what some of these agreements look like and he cited that trillion dollar figure. Listen to this.

Donald Trump (7:59)

This week, our countries also signed groundbreaking agreements on civil, nuclear energy, critical minerals and artificial intelligence. And I want to congratulate a lot of the great American leaders, business leaders that are in the room. And you'll do a great job for Saudi Arabia and for a lot of other people in the room that are buying your product, taking your product and using your product all of that is in addition to the $600 billion investment in the United States that Saudi Arabia announced during my unforgettable visit there last spring. Well, I said, could you try and get that up to a trillion dollars? And yesterday the crown prince announced that the number that they'll be investing in the United States is $1 trillion. So that's really a darling.

Buck Sexton (8:44)

So the Saudis are responsible for about 10, 11, 12% of global, something like that. 10, 11 ish percent depends on the time period of the world's crude oil. And so the Saudis matter. The Saudis play an important role in a global economy that is still entirely dependent really a modern civilization around the world that is entirely dependent on hydrocarbon fossil fuel. This is, this is also why our efforts to, and the international community, such as it is NATO, maybe more more specifically to box in Russia. No, Russia's got too much oil, too much gas, too much that the world needs. Regardless of how we feel about Russia's war in Ukraine and how evil Putin is and all that stuff, the oil is coming out of the ground and we need it and people are going to pay for it and they want it. Same thing is true of Saudi Arabia. You know, this is the, the reality of nation states is a bit like people. Does their talent outweigh their baggage, so to speak, does the upside outweigh the negatives of dealing with them? So, you know, you can get away with a whole lot more if you are Saudi Arabia and if you are Russia, then if you are North Korea, let's say North Korea doesn't export anything except problems, which is why we have been far more willing and the rest of the world has been far more willing to cut them off from a whole lot of things. Same thing with China, by the way. China is a, as we know, massive human rights abuser as well as a near peer competitor to the US Militarily, economically. And while we would like to decouple from China, perhaps it will take time. And while we would like to being able to bring more pressure to bear on China, we have some limitations. Trump is working with the cards that we have, but it's certainly not something where we just get to dictate. Same thing with Saudi Arabia. So a trillion dollars invested in the United States. Now this is a substantial, this gives the Saudis substantial influence. They've had substantial influence in the US in our media, in US A lot of US Universities have taken a tremendous amount of Saudi money over the years and really more Gulf, Gulf oil money more broadly. But that's something we should be aware of. There's a huge upside to this. Saudi investment in America makes us richer, more jobs, more. You know, we want money coming into this country from foreign nations. We just want to make sure we know where it's going and how it's being. You know, if here's a perfect example, BMW. I think BMW is a great, I drive a BMW. BMW is a great car company. They want to set up a US Based manufacturing plant. I think it's in South Carolina or something like that. Great, great. You know, that's. We want more jobs, we want more production here and we welcome that kind of an investment. Do we want China to control U.S. ports? No. Do we want China to be buying up U.S. farmland? No. Right there, there we can pick and choose and we always have. And there are offices of the US Government already that, that look at this issue and deal with whether there's too much foreign influence in say, a national security relevant industry. But with all that said, Trump's making these deals. He's bringing all this money into the country and that's a good thing. And he's doing what he knows, I think will have real benefits for the American people, for companies, for jobs, for the stock market and yes, for, for innovation and our production of technology here. We want more done here at the highest level possible when it comes to technology. I've spoken to you about how the Taiwanese semiconductor manufacturing company tsmc, I visited them when I was in Taiwan back in September and they're doing incredible things. I mean, it almost seems like magic, the level of technology that they operate at. And our entire AI future rests on the ability to make these very, very advanced chips. They've also now set up in Arizona. Some of you know, you've probably driven past it many times. A fab a fabrication facility for these chips and are expanding that rapidly over time. We need this, we want this. This is a good thing. Trump also spoke about tariffs in this. Sit down. This is cut 29. Let's hear what he said.

Donald Trump (13:32)

We're waiting for a decision. We hope that's going to be good, but if it's not, we'll do. We always find ways. You know, we find way and we've done things that nobody thought were possible and we're taking in trillions and trillions of dollars. Tariffs have been frankly the best thing that's ever happened to our country. They've always been used against us and we never had people that were smart enough to use them in the opposite direction. But now you do and we have taken in trillions of dollars. And it's been absolutely amazing. We're going to be doing a dividend to the people, low and middle income, moderate income people of at least $2,000. In addition to that, we'll be paying down debt very substantially. It's the kind of money we're taking in.

Buck Sexton (14:17)

Paying down debt, giving the American people a dividend who could really. People who could really use it. These are things that you would think the media would be in favor of. But no, instead you get ABC News attacking Trump and Mohammed bin Salman for, for 911 and Khashoggi. Do you think that if it were a Democrat administration, that scene in the White House yesterday would have occurred? Of course not. Of course not. The whole existence of the anti Trump media has really just now, for years. Well, maybe all along, but particularly in recent years in this administration, it just revolves around cheap shots, just an endless stream of, of cheap shots against Trump. And that's why when he gets a little bit, a little bit terse, a little bit salty in response, I think it's the right thing to do. What, is he going to sit there and get abused by people in bad faith? I'm a journalist, so I'm attacking and showing no, no respect whatsoever to the President of the United States. No, sorry, that's not going to fly. All right, look, there are some family get togethers this time of year that really feel like a family reunion. Lots of laughter, storytelling and picture sharing. Someone super organized. They'll put together a bunch of videos from back in the day, rewatch and relive some great memories from the past. That's where legacy box is super helpful. In fact, my friends, I have here, I'm gonna bring it over to my, I'm picking up with my feet. Cause I'm doing radio. I have my legacy box in my hands right here. Let's get it right in the shot. There we go. I've got my legacy box because you know what? I found some old things that I could get transferred into new media. And it's a fun thing to do this time of year, reliving these memories. Look, it's a box. It says legacy box. You put your old tapes, photos, film, you know, whatever the old media you got laser discs, all that stuff, you put it in there and you send it in. VHS tapes are really their specialty and they send it back to you all digitized. They do this with care. They're amazing. It's a great company. The founders are fantastic Americans. It's a really really good holiday gift. VHS, VHSC video cassettes, Hi8 film reels and 12 other types of analog media. All right now my friends, part of Legacy Box's Black Friday sale. Digitize your memories for just $9 per item. This $9 per tape deal will not last long. Head to legacybox.com buck for early access to our best deal of the year. That's legacybox.com buck legacybox.com Buck, you don't know what you don't know, right? But you could they hang with Clay and Buck podcast.

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Michael Watley (22:34)

What are the sources of American power?

Buck Sexton (22:37)

And that's what we saw on display here today. First, there's the military. So Saudis are going to be buying.

Michael Watley (22:42)

F35 coveted by everybody, everyone around the.

Buck Sexton (22:46)

World, proof that they are a valuable.

Michael Watley (22:48)

Ally to our great economy and the reserve currency status of the dollar. So they are willing to put in $1 trillion of investment into their portfolio that they already have here. The US Is the premier destination in the world.

Buck Sexton (23:04)

And then three, our technology and innovation economy. Again, they want to invest in that. They want to buy our chips. Yes. They want to have more productive and lucrative for American companies, businesses, individuals, relationships with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. And this is, this is a good thing. This is something that will benefit all of us. I will tell you this, the hypocrisy of the people who pretend to care about human rights only based upon whoever's the human rights, I should say, of foreign nations only when there is a Republican in the White House. It's just so tiresome. It's so tiresome. What are we really going to do? We're not going to talk to the Saudis. We're not going to deal with China. We're not going to, you know, sit down with regimes that do things that we don't like and that we don't agree with. But we don't get to call the shots for everybody all over the world. And it would be a huge misstep for the Trump administration to decide that in some, you know, feat of self righteousness or sanctimony, we say we're not going to deal, we're not going to deal with the Saudis because they, you know, assassinated a foreign journalist and years ago and so now the American people are all like, we're all supposed to suffer. What do they want us to do? You know, I always want to ask, ask this of the critics and they're just so cynical because it's only when there's a Republican, it's like figuring out the world is a dangerous place. There are people who play rough that we have to still deal with. But they only figure this out when Donald Trump is in office. This is not something, I mean, when, when doddering fool Joe Biden is, is stumbling around all of a sudden, you know, oh, real politic and Kissinger and whatever. Interesting how that happens. Christmas Eve is five weeks from today. Wow, that's actually crazy to say out loud. It's really important for all of you to think about what you're going to get for those holiday shoppers or holiday gifts rather. So the shoppers in this audience, I want to help you right now. Don't wait in line at the last minute Christmas Eve and feel like it's all stressful. Get your Christmas shopping done with Cozy earth. Go to cozyearth.com cozy earth products including, including their sheets, blankets, clothing and household items are hands down winners. I love cozier stuff. I'm sleeping on cozier sheets. Their pillowcases, their pillows, amazing. The bubble cuddle blanket, I told you. My mom loved it so much that my dad was like I want one too. So I had to get him a more masculine color. Cozy Earth sheets are amazing. The blankets are incredible. The pajamas. Black Friday has come early@cozyearth.com use my name, Buck, as your promo code. Up to 40% off site wide. Cozyearth.com go get your Christmas shopping done today. Promo code. Buck let's talk about what's going on in North Carolina. Our guest here, Michael Watley, running for a critical Senate seat there. Michael, appreciate you joining us here, calling in. Tell us what has been going on with your state when it comes to illegal immigration enforcement. There's been some very interesting exchanges I'm seeing online. Yeah.

Michael Watley (26:26)

Well, the biggest thing to kind of table set for all of your listeners is the fact that my opponent, Roy Cooper, when he was the governor of North Carolina, vetoed legislation which would have forced sheriffs to honor ICE detainers and move violent criminal illegal aliens out of the state. And so now we have a system where we have a revolving door that's putting these criminals back on the street. They are not being deported. And ICE has come in to make a number of arrests and help clean up the mess that Roy Cooper has created in North Carolina.

Buck Sexton (27:01)

People who are trying to get a sense of the scale of the illegal immigration issue. I don't know if you saw this. It was being shared broadly online, this number that in the Charlotte public school system earlier this week, there were 21,000. Now, apparently the CMS data is not finalized yet, but basically 21,000 students miss school in just the Charlotte Public School District on Monday, which they say is 15%. I mean, this is, this is kind of stunning to think that that many kids are affected by. Because they have illegal immigrant parents. What's going on here? What can you tell us about this?

Michael Watley (27:38)

Well, I think it's stunning that when you look at the, you know, millions of illegal immigrants that came across the border during Joe Biden's administration, 10, 15 million immigrants that came across, hundreds of thousands of them were known criminals who had records and they still were released into, you know, states like North Carolina. The fact is that North Carolina should not be a border state, but we are a border state. And so, you know, when we think about having ICE come in and be able to take these people off the street and they're saying, you know, there have been over 200 plus arrest so far. You know, these are people who've been arrested who have criminal records that people who are wanted for criminal records and need to be deported. It is absolutely a dereliction of duty for, you know, the sheriff of Mecklenburg county, sheriffs of Wake county, which is Raleigh, or, you know, Durham county, to not honor these ICE detainers. And it was a dereliction of duty for Roy Cooper to veto legislation would have forced them to, to be able to do that.

Buck Sexton (28:46)

What kind of drain on the budget has it been for the state of North Carolina to have? And can you give us a sense? There are some places we think about illegal immigration a lot. Right. You think about New York City and the state of California, Texas, you know, places along the border. The Carolinas don't necessarily come to mind right away, but can you give some sense of the, of the scale and also the cost for the people of your state about illegal immigration and how much of an issue it has become?

Michael Watley (29:19)

Well, it's a huge issue, you know, when you talk about, you know, the federal programs and the state programs to be able to help our needy and the fact that we have, you know, millions of people around the country, illegal aliens that were on Medicaid, the fact that we actually had to pass legislation as part of the one big, beautiful bill to take illegal aliens and say that they cannot be on Medicaid, and the fact that the Democrats were fighting extremely hard to try and put, you know, those provisions back into place. When we look at food stamps, we look at the WIC programs, we look at, you know, schools and all of the other costs that are out there, the societal costs for services for illegal aliens is absolutely stupefying. And it is. It is remarkable that, that Democrats in North Carolina and around the country, including Roy Cooper, want to fight harder for illegal aliens than they do their own constituents.

Buck Sexton (30:18)

We're speaking to Michael Whatley, former RNC chair and candidate for Senate in North Carolina. I know it's technically early in that cycle, Michael, but the Republican Party has already been, you know, moving forward with your candidacy, trying to. Trying to back. Back things up, back you up in this, because I think they recognize, man, the Democrats, what kind of money are they going to put behind Roy Cooper to try to get this Senate seat?

Michael Watley (30:47)

Well, it's going to be the most expensive Senate race in the history of the country. We've seen estimates that this could be as high as 600 to $800 million that will be spent in North Carolina. We know the Democrats are going to pour hundreds of millions of dollars into the race. It's really, they're one of two pickup opportunities that they have all around the country, Susan Collins up in Maine being the other one. And the fact is, we're going to have the support of President Trump, we're going to have the support of the grassroots. We're going to have the support from people all across North Carolina to be able to go toe to toe with that out of state money. But, you know, we look at, you know, the amount of money that Roy Cooper is going to be able to bring in from around the country, and it's not daunting because as we saw in the last election cycle, President Trump got outspent by a billion dollars. Kamala Harris, you know, raised and spent, you know, $2.5 billion. But she had a terrible message. And, you know, good policy is good politics. So we're going to win this race even if we're outspent, because we're going to be focused on creating jobs and raising wages. We're going to be focused on keeping our kids and our communities safe. And obviously, this current conversation is a big Part of that. And we're also going to focus on making sure that our men and women in uniform have what they need to protect our interests and our allies around the world.

Buck Sexton (32:11)

I wanted to let you react to Josh Stein, the governor of North Carolina here. Michael, this is cut 17 on our, on our sheet team. He's, he's saying. Well, I'll let everybody hear what he's saying. Play 17. We've seen Masked, heavily armed agents and paramilitary garb driving unmarked cars, targeting American citizens based on their skin color, racially profiling and picking up random people in parking lots and off of our sidewalks, going after landscape or simply decorating a Christmas tree in someone's front yard and entering churches and stores to grab people. This is not making us safer. It's stoking fear and dividing our community. We are a nation of immigrants and our state and this country is stronger because of our immigrant communities. Unfortunately, our immigration system is broken. But rather than fix it, the federal government continues to play politics with it. So, Governor, Governor Stein in North Carolina, Michael, does he get all of his talking points from msnbc? How does that work?

Michael Watley (33:17)

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that is lock, stock and barrel. The messaging platform from the far left, the progressive, radical left. The fact is, if Roy Cooper had signed that legislation and sheriffs had honored their ICE detainers, then we probably would not need to have President Trump sending his administration down here and taking these people off of the streets. Nobody can dispute the fact that the hundreds of arrests that have been made are people who have criminal records and should not be walking the streets, whether it's in Charlotte or Raleigh or anywhere else in North Carolina. And the fact is that there are thousands of people who are in North Carolina jails right now that are not being turned over to ice. When they are, when they are illegal aliens is a huge problem. That is the fault of Roy Cooper. It's a total failure of leadership on his part.

Buck Sexton (34:09)

Now, Roy Cooper, your opponent in this Senate race, going to be trying to convince everybody that, you know, he's a pragmatic Democrat or one of the reasonable Democrats. Right. I mean, we're seeing right now in real time what that actually means on say, illegal immigration and the enforcement of underway from the Trump administration. Democrats are expected to pretend that this is like the East German Stasi picking up innocent people off the streets, whatever. Where are some other key areas of difference between what you would bring to the United States Senate versus Roy Cooper? Just so we have a huge audience all across North Carolina, I want them to hear from you. How you two guys would be markedly different and what that would mean in the United States Senate.

Michael Watley (34:55)

Well, we certainly could talk about the fact that he vetoed six different bills with tax cuts, balance budgets, police pay raises and teacher pay raises. And we can talk about the legislation that he vetoed that would have kept boys out of girls sports and men out of women's locker rooms. But I think that probably the most important thing that we're going to need to talk about is keeping our kids and our communities safe. And Roy Cooper, when he was the governor in 2020, when we had Antifa and BLM rioting all across North Carolina, was out there marching with them in protest and also signed an executive order that basically created cashless bail and pretrial release in North Carolina, created a revolving door for all of our criminals and led to violent crime spikes in all major North Carolina cities. And that that is the reason why we had Aryna Zyrotska, a beautiful young lady who was murdered in Charlotte, has kind of been held up as the most vivid example where her murderer had been arrested 14 different times and released under Roy Cooper's soft on crime policies that we need to keep our kids and our community safe. That is the number one function for any government, whether it's state, local or federal. And we need ultimately to have policies that are going to be set at the federal level to keep our kids and communities safe. And we cannot trust Roy Cooper with it. But at the end of the day, this is going to come down to a vote in the Senate and whether we're going to have somebody who will be an ally for President Trump and stand up for the conservative values of North Carolina or are we going to have a radical, progressive, card carrying member of the WOKE mob like Roy Cooper? And ultimately, at the end of the day, North Carolina is going to side with North Carolina values. They do not want a candidate who's going to fight every day harder for criminals and illegal aliens than he is his own constituents.

Buck Sexton (36:51)

Well, Michael, make sure that you keep in touch with us here and our team so that as you get deeper into this race and you have, I'm sure, a debate that will happen with Roy Cooper. You know, we want to get the word out and continue to talk about this one because as you point out, it's North Carolina and Maine that are the big targets for Democrat pick up. So hundreds of millions of dollars going to be spent against you. A lot of it's going to come from Malibu and Manhattan. But anyway, as you already know, where can people go to follow what you're doing. Help out, pitch in.

Michael Watley (37:22)

Excellent. Michael Watley.com is the website and they can follow me on X at at Whatley nc.

Buck Sexton (37:30)

Bring home the W for us. Michael, thanks for joining us. We'll talk to you again soon.

Michael Watley (37:34)

Yes sir. Take care of.

Buck Sexton (37:37)

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Before you met the pontiff and you.

Buck Sexton (43:50)

Didn'T wear that wretched orange jacket. Whoa, the range is hot. We have caller there calling out Clay saying he shaved and I don't know which one is the orange producer. Ali, do we know which one is the orange jacket? Clay's jackets. He definitely goes game show host jacket sometimes. I'm just saying, right? He's not here to defend himself. So when he comes back, he can explain his jacket choices. But I'm sure. I'm sure he was dressed up very nice, very nicely, very nicely for a meeting with the pontiff. But no, I'm really excited for him. That's a very cool thing. I remember I went a long time ago. I was maybe 14, 13. I was in Italy and went to St. Peter's and went to the Vatican. Vatican City was really, really quite. Especially as a Catholic. It was quite an experience. He's got that Syracuse orange jacket. That's hideous. Bruce Riley says, oh, wow. Okay. He's got an ugly orange jacket. I don't even know about that one. Um, let's also take here Mike CC Listener from San Diego. Play it. This is Mike in San Diego. I'm really curious to see what happens with the people that are on this Epstein lists. I know that there were flight logs that showed movie stars and politicians and other celebrities and powerful business people. I'm really curious to see if there's fallout outside of government. Yeah, I'd be curious as well. I wouldn't hold your breath on it. Just because we don't know what's in these files. And like I said, the files are in the possession of the Department of Justice of the United States government. If they're going to release the files, I think it's very, very unlikely that they're going to release files and say, oh, wow, you're right, we should have prosecuted this person. We didn't even think about that until now. So this is also what I was saying about the complete non story of Trump's tax returns. You remember that? Do you remember how insane Democrats were about the tax return? And I used to joke about this when I was doing my solo show years ago. I'd say, they speak of this and I mean, Rachel Maddow at MSNBC and the big voices of the time on the left, they spoke of Trump's tax returns as if there was going to be a page that was like, big bribe from Putin. Like that's not going to happen. There isn't going to be something. The tax returns are in the possession of the government. So they think that if they got leaked, then all of a sudden it would be, oh my gosh, the government was sitting this whole time on the smoking gun evidence of Trump's Russia collusion. That is a crazy belief that made no sense. And as we know, they eventually some guy went to prison for leaking Trump's tax returns. It made no sense. But, but there you go. Wow. Producer Alley says that Clay has a pink Pepto Bismol colored jacket too. I, I haven't seen this one. That's something. That's something I gotta check out. Although a pink blazer in Miami is, especially with maybe a light blue shirt, something like that. It's pretty Crockett and Tubs. You know, it's a throwback to Miami Vice days. So I'm not going to hate on a pink blazer, at least not down where I am. So we're going to come back in here and dive into the latest on immigration. Oh, and Ron DeSantis, governor of Florida, my state. Fabulous governor.

Michael Watley (47:34)

Governor.

Buck Sexton (47:35)

Fantastic governor. He'll be with us tomorrow. At least that's on the schedule for right now might talk a bit about the housing situation, affordability and a lot of the debates surrounding property tax, which could affect all of us. We'll talk about it then.

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