Hour 2 - Defending Western Civilization

Summary

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 2 – Defending Western Civilization
Date: February 16, 2026
Hosts: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton

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Episode Overview

In this President’s Day edition, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton tackle hot-button issues in U.S. and global politics with their usual blend of wit and analysis. The primary theme is the defense of Western civilization and American institutions in the face of progressive critique—exemplified by recent comments from prominent figures and the ongoing culture wars. They touch on illegal immigration, the changing standards for political discourse, and the erosion of Western values, referencing recent events like the Munich Security Conference and viral political gaffes. Humorous banter and personal anecdotes punctuate their commentary, offering listeners both sharp insights and entertainment.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Behind the Mic – Banter and Video Expansion

• The hosts announce expansion plans: from June, viewers can watch all three hours of the show via YouTube (02:39).
• Amusing chatter starts off with facial hair: Buck mocks Clay’s return to a beard, referencing online reactions and joking about being the “Tom Selleck of talk radio.”
  • “The ladies of America have spoken. They love the clay stash.” – Buck Sexton (03:40)

2. Political Gaffes & Intellectual Standards

• AOC’s Geographic Slip:
  • Clay and Buck analyze Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC)’s recent comments confusing Venezuela’s location relative to the equator at the Munich Conference.
  • Buck analogizes to popping a wheelie: “If you do it, you better know what you’re doing.” (07:03)
  • Clay critiques over-emphasized pronunciations and recalls AOC’s school nickname, “Sandy Cortez.” (08:24)
• Identity Politics & Historical Ignorance:
  • Segue to the importance of cultural awareness, poking fun at ignorance about western history and the identities chosen by public figures.

3. Immigration: Hillary Clinton & Gavin Newsom at Munich

• Hillary Clinton’s Admission: (09:02)
  • Clay highlights Clinton’s surprising candor about illegal immigration:
    • “Illegal immigration was a mess and got out of control…disruptive and destabilizing and it needs to be fixed in a humane way with secure borders.” – [Paraphrased Clinton, played by hosts at 10:05]
  • Both hosts speculate on her motivations—attention, political influence, or behind-the-scenes king-making.
    • “She likes attention. She likes to be important…if she can’t be the role she wants, she wants to be involved in picking who has the role.” – Buck Sexton (11:13)
• Gavin Newsom’s 'Nazi' Comparison:
  • Newsom, speaking in Germany, likens ICE agents and immigration enforcement to Nazis, sparking outrage and ridicule from the hosts. (30:58)
    • Clay: “To go to the birthplace of legitimate Nazis and argue that ICE are Nazis is even beyond the pale for Gavin Newsom.” (31:30)
    • Buck: “The problem they have is if Trump is a Nazi…why should the Nazi rhetoric stop?” (32:04)

4. The 2020 Election and Erosion of Trust

• Skepticism on Biden’s Vote Total:
  • Clay draws a parallel between Biden’s “81 million votes” and baseball’s steroid era, suggesting many, even on the left, now question the legitimacy of 2020’s outcome. (13:18)
    • “I think more and more people are going to keep looking at that 81 million Biden votes…and are going to be saying there’s no way that legally happened.” – Clay Travis (13:18)
  • They explore how future historians will struggle to rationalize Biden’s historic vote count given his documented cognitive decline.
    • “Not Obama, not Trump, that guy. That’s a tough one for people to make sense of.” – Buck Sexton (13:43)

5. Rubio’s Munich Speech – A Defense of the West

• Key Audio: Marco Rubio at Munich Security Conference (21:38)
  • “We want allies who are proud of their culture and of their heritage…who together with us are willing and able to defend [Western civilization]. …We in America have no interest in being polite and orderly caretakers of the West’s managed decline.” – Marco Rubio (21:38)
• Hosts Reflect:
  • Clay describes the left’s efforts to “tear down the fabric of Western civilization” and credits Rubio for articulating its fundamental value. (22:39)
    • “Is Western civilization a good or bad thing? …They’ve been trying to tear down the fabric of Western civilization for some time…” – Clay Travis (22:39)
  • Buck details the technological and societal gap between pre- and post-Western influence in the Americas and elsewhere:
    • “The Iroquois were living in effectively a Stone Age level of existence…The ancient Romans were building aqueducts…” (23:28)

6. Media Bubble and Intellectual Echo Chambers

• Left-Wing Media Insularity:
  • Critique of Apple News for only sharing left-leaning perspectives, described as a major problem for balanced discourse and business (34:32).
  • Buck claims that right-leaning media personalities are forged under fire, while left-leaning counterparts face less intellectual challenge.
    • “Our team: just better, smarter individuals because we’ve had to be…wasn’t possible to just go everywhere you wanted and have everyone applaud whatever dumbass stuff you had to say…” (36:40)
• Invitations to Rogan and The View:
  • Both joke about never being invited to Joe Rogan’s show or Bill Maher’s, with Buck daydreaming about guesting on The View alongside Clay for a fun “Donnybrook” (34:18).

7. Robert Duvall, Pop Culture, and Banter

• Obituary: Acknowledgement of actor Robert Duvall’s passing at 95, recalling his iconic roles and personal favorites from “The Godfather” to “Lonesome Dove.” (25:05–27:29)
• Debate over whether “The Godfather” or its sequel is better, referencing generational tastes and classic film rankings.

8. Ongoing News: Nancy Guthrie Case

• Update: Hosts play the latest clip from news coverage of Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance, noting ongoing ransom notes and media obsession (28:25).

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• On AOC’s Geography Flub:

  • Buck: “If you’re the guy on the dirt bike and you pop a wheelie and you eat it on the cement, that’s on you.” (07:03)

• On Hillary Clinton’s Intelligence:

  • Clay: “You can say she’s diabolical…she is way smarter than Kamala Harris and AOC and just way more politically astute.” (09:02)

• On Biden’s 2020 Vote Total:

  • Clay: "It is the equivalent of the steroids era in baseball...I think more and more people are going to be saying there’s no way that legally happened.” (13:18–13:43)
  • Buck: “That guy got by far the most votes in the history of the republic. Not Obama, not Trump, that guy. That’s a tough one.” (13:43)

• Rubio’s Speech:

  • Rubio: “We want allies who are proud of their culture and their heritage...who together with us are willing and able to defend [Western civilization].” (21:38)

• On Newsom’s Nazi Comparison:

  • Clay: "...it's even more absurd to go to the birthplace of legitimate Nazis and argue that ICE are Nazis." (31:30)
  • Buck: “If Trump is a Nazi, why should the Nazi rhetoric stop?” (32:04)

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Additional Segments of Interest

• Coffee & Health:

  • Reference to Alex Berenson’s article on coffee reducing dementia risk; promotion of show’s branded coffee (43:57).

• Listener Interactions:

  • Teasers about reading talkback messages, with hints of brewing unrest among mustache fans for Clay’s return to the beard (46:15).

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Summary

Clay and Buck deliver a sharp, lively episode weaving together viral political moments, serious cultural commentary, and signature banter. Using the lens of current events—from Rubio’s stirring defense in Munich to the latest in media bias and progressive overreach—they advocate for the value of Western civilization and traditional American principles. Notable moments include deep skepticism about the 2020 election’s historical oddities, critique of left-wing intellectual culture, and humorous asides about podcasting, facial hair, and pop culture. The hosts balance serious analysis with playful conversation, making even complex geopolitics accessible and entertaining.

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Transcript

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome in our number two President's Day edition. We know many of you are working alongside of us. We appreciate wherever you may be listening across the United States, indeed around the world. SiriusXM channel 123. Now you can get much video associated with the program at the Clay and Buck YouTube YouTube page. Starting in June, the plan is for you to be able to see all three hours every single day of the show on video. To the extent that all of you out there are desperate to see both Buck and, and me and what we look like on a day to day basis, well, you will have that incredible opportunity. So we're growing all over the place, 555am FM stations. But we appreciate you however you are consuming the show. You, you can certainly go download us on podcast as well.

[Buck Sexton]

What's. What's going on on the bottom of your face? What is this? Speaking of video, YouTube. What, what is going on here? You're abandoning the mustache? It's been like a week.

[Clay Travis]

I have.

[Buck Sexton]

The ladies of America have spoken. They love the clay stash.

[Clay Travis]

Mustache has not been trimmed in any way. But I just haven't shaved while I've been down on the Florida Gulf coast. So he's going back to the beard, everybody.

[Buck Sexton]

He's sneakily going back to the beard.

[Clay Travis]

Beard came in quick.

[Buck Sexton]

I.

[Clay Travis]

There were.

[Buck Sexton]

I saw lovely ladies online saying that you are the Tom Selleck of talk radio now. And that is high praise.

[Clay Travis]

Is there anybody to compete with to be the Tom Selleck of talk radio? Is there anybody else with a mustache on radio?

[Buck Sexton]

I don't. Not that I know of. Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

I don't even know anybody else that has a mustache that does Fox News hits. Like. I don't even know who I would compete with on the mustache front on Fox News.

[Buck Sexton]

So we both have like scraggly beards. Like, like Michael Berry has like a beard. He has like a Texas man's beard. There are people out there. A Jesse Kelly.

[Clay Travis]

No, come on.

[Buck Sexton]

He's.

[Clay Travis]

He's.

[Buck Sexton]

Most of his hair is on his face. There's that. It's not up top.

[Clay Travis]

So I just making fun of Jesse because at the Munich conference that they just had, did you see the German guy with like the tiny little speck of hair that's left on top of his head? I don't know what he's trying to do.

[Buck Sexton]

No, I, I didn't see this, but now I'll have to look this up. I'm sure you were harassing our friend Jesse on Twitter about have to go and see.

[Clay Travis]

Well, I just asked him. I was like, as a bald man, what does another bald man think about basically a soul spot that's left behind on the top of the head? To me, you should just go ahead and take that guy off because it's like, it just looks like a desperate island that's hoping for support that has been overrun by the baldness.

[Buck Sexton]

I've, you know, I've never seen Hannity with a beard. I've never seen Hannity not clean shaven. And I, we're going on a long time here.

[Clay Travis]

I've never seen. I will. First of all, Sean lost his super bowl bet to me. And then Wednesday, usually I go on every Wednesday. I don't want to throw Sean under the bus here, but I get a text from his producer and they say, hey, we can't have you on this week. I think Hannity might be ducking me after taking the L on the super bowl, and I'm just going to throw this out there. I'm not sure that Sean could grow a beard. You know, like, my dad can't grow a beard if he tries.

[Buck Sexton]

Sean could do a beard. He could definitely. He could pull off a Tom Selleck style stash, too. You got to get a facial hair bet with them for next year going.

[Clay Travis]

I don't.

[Buck Sexton]

Honestly, I don't even know. I could. Hannity with facial hair. I don't even know if I'd recognize it. I'd be like, who is this guy?

[Clay Travis]

He could go undercover. I don't know. I don't think my dad can't grow facial hair. Like, he couldn't grow a beard if he needed to. The problem I have is not the beard. It's that it's gone white. And now it looks like oftentimes there's not actually hair there. And so I don't know what to do. It's kind of, it's quite the conundrum on the facial issue. So speaking of facial hair, you see.

[Buck Sexton]

What Hillary Clinton said about illegal immigrants.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. But first, hold on. We went after aoc. That's a great. That's a great.

[Buck Sexton]

I just want to take a shot at Hillary. I just want to take a shot.

[Clay Travis]

Well, we'll play that audio in a sec here. Actually, I like it, but I, I teased that AOC was trying to make a point about Venezuela and didn't recognize where the equator was. Now I ripped her on Taiwan and China. I think huge majorities of Americans could not tell you what countries the equator runs through. I think that's actually high level geographic knowledge. But if you were totally. All she has to say is Latin America. She doesn't have to say that Venezuela is below the equator.

[Buck Sexton]

Clay, if you're the guy on the dirt bike and you pop a wheelie and you eat it on the cement, that's on you. You know what I mean? No one made you pop a wheelie. Like, is it hard?

[Clay Travis]

Sure.

[Buck Sexton]

But if you do it, you better, you better know what you're doing.

[Clay Travis]

Most people have globes. Here's AOC whiffing. We told you. She couldn't answer. She sounded like Miss South Carolina when it came to trying to explain what should happen if Taiwan invaded China or even what her perspective was on it. Here she is trying to play identity politics. Saying Trump only invaded because he thinks he can invade countries south of the.

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[Buck Sexton]

No, we can actually. We can, though actually. There's plenty of precedent for this. Slash, he's violating US federal law. There's no immunity for that because you steal an election somewhere else. Can I also add, I love that she really leans into with Maduro.

[Clay Travis]

This is, this is a big deal for me. I just pronounce every word like you actually speak English. It is such an, like a total over, over exaggeration there. Remember? Wasn't it. What was AOC's actual name when she went to school?

[Buck Sexton]

Sandy. Sandy. Sandy, yes, of course.

[Clay Travis]

Sandy Cortez.

[Buck Sexton]

Sandy Cortez. Interesting, isn't it, that she doesn't know who brought horses to the Americas when she's named for the guy who brought horses to America. You know what I mean? Like, if your name was like, if your name was like, you know, like Clay Washington and your parents named you, you should probably know who the first president is. You know what I'm saying? You should probably have an idea.

[Clay Travis]

No doubt. Here is your point. Speaking of bearded women, here is Hillary Clinton to steal your transition phrase.

[Buck Sexton]

Long chin hairs going, yep.

[Clay Travis]

Suddenly saying, yeah, illegal immigration was a mess and got out of control. This is also from Munich. I will say this before we play this audio buck. Hillary Clinton compared to AOC or compared to Kamala Harris, 20, 30 points, IQ smarter. I mean, you cannot like Hillary. You think she's diabolical.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, she's considerably smarter than these other. Look, there was a Obama said in this interview and I think we'll get to some of those clips. The Democrats are too old. I, I, I think that a problem that they have also is that some of these Democrats are honestly, they're too dumb for politics, which is really dumb.

[Clay Travis]

That's a very dumb standard. But Hillary, again, you can say she's diabolical, you can say she's evil. You can have a lot of criticisms for Hillary Clinton. She is way smarter than Kamala Harris and aoc and also she's just way more politically astute. Now, do I think she's being honest here? It actually makes me wonder what is her game plan? Why is she being interviewed? Like why is she in Munich? But here she is saying illegal immigration was out of control and it needed to be fixed. We need to call it for what it is. There is a legitimate reason to have a debate about things like migration. It went too far. It's been disruptive and destabilizing and it needs to be fixed in a humane way with secure borders that don't torture and kill people. Okay.

[Buck Sexton]

This is where we get into the. You go ahead.

[Clay Travis]

No, but to your point, like, um, she is at least willing to say publicly what is self evident to the vast majority of the Americans. And it makes me wonder, Buck, why is she doing this? What is the end goal for her? Because a lot of times you can say, well, that's just posturing to try to win an election. She's, I don't think, going to ever run for office again. What is her motivation to in any way be sane on this issue? Heck, why is she going to Munich at all? Just attention. I mean, I do think it's an interesting question for her. Most of the time the answer is politics, angling for, you know, trying to get a promotion, things like that. I don't know that necessarily applies here.

[Buck Sexton]

No, she likes, she likes attention. She likes to be important. I mean that's the, that's the one drug that a lot of these people in public life never tire of and the addiction never really fades and she wants people to listen to her and she wants to have a voice in things. I don't, that's not surprising to me at all. I also think, Clay, that with the collapse of the Obama Biden dynasty, which is what has happened, I think that she sees a way not to run again. She's not going to run again. She's almost 80. And we know the age thing is actually taken a little bit more seriously now. But I think she sees a way for her to be involved as if not kingmaker, have some behind the scenes power and sway. And what's more important to her than that? I mean, if she can't be the role she wants to be involved in, picking who has the role.

[Clay Travis]

I think Hillary loved Kamala getting smoked because it takes her off the table. Like everybody who came after her, hey, you didn't, you didn't campaign in the, and you didn't go to Michigan, you didn't go to Pennsylvania, Wisconsin in the final days. And you lost a race to Trump. And he's a joke. I actually think Trump winning the popular vote and smoking Kamala, deep down, Hillary took a great deal of glee in it because it takes Hillary off the table. I think as a awful politician who lost an election, she should have won. And again, this is my prediction in the years ahead. Buck, I think more and more people are going to keep looking at that 81 million Biden votes. And, and I just think more and more people are going to be saying there's no way that legally happened. Right. It is the equivalent of the steroids era in baseball where whatever you think of people, Barry Bonds, his performance, for those of you who, who remember when Suddenly he's hitting 70 home runs and you got all these different athletes out there that never sniffed 40 that suddenly are putting up 50 home runs and it was self evident that the rules had changed and everybody was cheating. I think the 81 million, increasingly, even for people on the left, they're looking around and saying, wait a minute, how did that happen? How did Biden get 81 million? My point on that is if you look at the overall Trump era and the votes that he produced in 16, 20 and 24, I think it's going to be less of, hey, can you believe these people lost to him? And more of what in the world happened in 2020 that Joe Biden was able to even get into office in any way?

[Buck Sexton]

It is amazing. You go back at this, you go back and look at this. If you're a histor, in 20, 50 years from now, you will be told that a president who was unable to run for reelection because of his apparent and obvious dementia, which his opponents had been pointing out from the beginning of him running the first time in 2020, that guy got by far the most votes in the history of the republic. Not Obama, not Trump, that guy. That's a tough one. That's a tough one for people to make sense of. They're going to have to be a lot of democrat historians. Unfortunately, most presidential historians are super douchebags.

[Clay Travis]

But not only that, buck, it's as you stack additional elections and I don't know if anybody's going to get 81 million votes in 2028. And again, you like just plot it and you're like, wait a minute, what happened here? People are going to say, well, it was Covid, okay? And maybe do you think the fact that everybody suddenly allowed all of these different mail ballots to come pouring in and they just counted everything under the sun again, I think the success that he had is going to be increasingly looked at with a bit of an eyebrow raise even from people who claim that, that they're not going to take, you know, denialism or allow it to, to exist. We'll take some of your calls by the way. Continue to allow your talkbacks Again, if you're listening on satellite radio, I I'd be curious how many people are are finding us now on channel one 23. Let us know. Pure Talk likes President's Day. Their U. S. Based customer service team is working. That's the way it is all year long for Pure talk's team. This holiday reminds us, all of us, how affordable their monthly service plans are. Think about it. President Jackson on a $20 bill. President Lincoln on a five dollar bill. Combine that $25. Pure talk is your low monthly bill for unlimited talk. Text plenty of data. Now compare that to big wireless companies where you're likely to spend a whole lot more every month. Save your benjamins for another day. PureTalk is an American wireless company, one that supports our veterans and invests in a US only customer service team. So when you call, you're talking to someone right here in the good old USA. PureTalk uses the same towers as the big carrier. So enjoy superior 5G coverage with without the inflated price, just 25 bucks a month for talk text. Plenty of data, no contracts, no cancellation fees, just aisle £2 50 say the keywords clay and buck. You'll get 50% off your first month. That's £2 5 0, say clay and buck. To make the switch to pure talk today, that's £2 50 say Clay and Buck. Stories of freedom, stories of America. Inspirational stories that unite us all. Each day, spend time with clay and buck. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Clay Travis]

Laura is really adept at figuring out how to listen and to things. But I, I think it's much more of an unk thing what you do, which I like to do, which is actually read the transcript as opposed to.

[Buck Sexton]

Watch or listen to so much, so much more efficient and there's no, there's no, no fuss, no muss. But I watched the whole thing, the video of it instead of in the transcript. What I'm saying because the speech was so good. Just want to give you Guys, a taste of this. This is cut two. Here's Rubio's speech at the Munich Security Conference. It was masterful. Play it.

[Marco Rubio]

We do not want our allies to be weak because that makes us weaker. We want allies who can defend themselves so that no adversary never be tempted to test our collective strength. This is why we do not want our allies to be shackled by guilt and shame. We want allies who are proud of their culture and of their heritage, who understand that we are heirs to the same great and noble civilization and who together with us are willing and able to defend it. And this is why we do not want allies to rationalize the broken status quo, rather than reckon with what is what, what is necessary to fix it. For we in America have no interest in being polite and orderly caretakers of the West's managed decline.

[Buck Sexton]

That gives you a pretty good overview of what he talked about, Clay. But it was a full throated defense of the Western order, of Western civilization and of America's familial relationship to Europe, both in its origins and going forward.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, look, basically what we have is, if you want to talk about the biggest possible debate going on right now, it's is Western civilization a good or bad thing? Because the Democrat Party, because white people primarily were involved in Western civilization, believe that that makes it illegitimate. And so they've been trying to tear down the fabric of Western civilization for some time. And I thought Marco Rubio gave a very strident defense of the connective tissue between Europe and America, rooted in the foundation of our shared appreciation for Western civilization, which is the reason why we have basically everything that exists that is positive in the world today. You met, you had a great line. What was it? That they didn't even have the wheel yet in, in much of the Americas.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, yeah. They didn't have the. They didn't have the wheel. They didn't have written language. They didn't have iron working. They didn't have. I mean, go down the list. I mean, whatever. I mean, there were. The ancient Romans were building aqueducts that stretched for, you know, scores of miles to connect fresh water sources. And you know, we showed up in. The Iroquois were living in effectively a Stone Age level of existence. Yes, I mean, they. Stone Age.

[Clay Travis]

Same thing in Australia, which happened relatively recently in 1780 or whatever. When they arrived in Australia, I think it was the 1780s. They were living in basically Stone Age.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Some sad news. Robert Duvall, 95 years old, legendary actor, Godfather, Apocalypse Now, To Kill a Mockingbird. I loved him in one of the great westerns of all time, Lonesome Dove. For those of you out there who remember the miniseries based on the Larry McMurtry Pulitzer Prize winning book. He was McCall. Gus. He was Gus. And Call was played by Tommy Lee Jones. One of the great westerns. I think it was a miniseries on television. Probably the greatest miniseries of all time. Incredible thousand page book about a cattle drive from Tex to Montana. But Robert Duvall and a lot of you obviously are going to remember him from Godfather. But Robert Duvall dead at the age of 95. That has just come down in the past couple of minutes. You have a favorite Robert Duvall Character.

[Buck Sexton]

1 in the Consular Consulary and the Godfather is I think the. That's just. You can't be more iconic in a non leading role than that. I think. I think that was really. He was really good sir. German, Irish, you know I remember the whole. Remember he goes. He goes the guy. Oh yeah, he wants the role and he's like. And if he tries any rough stuff, I ain't a boy scout. Remember that whole thing then the horse's head and his bed. Godfather 1 is an incredible holds up and an incredible. A lot of old movies people don't like to hear this. There's a lot of indicating not acting. They're too slow. Whatever. Godfather 1 is incredible still to this day. Great.

[Clay Travis]

I think you can make an argument Godfather 2 is better than Godfather 1 which is one of the rare of all time sequels that you can even make an argument is better than the original.

[Buck Sexton]

A lot of people say that. I'm. I'm in the camp that the original, the first one is still the best one. The second one is obviously a phenomenal movie too. I like the first one better. Just as a movie. I enjoyed it more. A lot of people of our parents generation, I think, would say that the Godfather is their. They think the best movie of all time. There's definitely a. Fair enough. If you look on like, like top 100 all time movie lists, Godfather is routinely 1 and 2 are routinely top 10, top 5.

[Clay Travis]

Truly phenomenal. In fact, I was talking about the Godfather this weekend with my kids who haven't seen it yet. I was telling them I need to, to get it on. All right, let's play a couple of these other cuts we mentioned. Well, should I mention, should I update the Nancy Guthrie thing? I mean, they still lead the news with it every single day. And so I figure there must be a huge segment of this population that is following it every single instant. Here is the latest on Nancy. Nancy Guthrie. Let me play it for you. TMZ now says that they have received a fourth different ransom note. And that this, this email that they have received says that Nancy Guthrie is now in Mexico. It has been, what, 16 days, I believe, since she went missing out in Arizona. And that is. Let me make sure I get this cut right. That is cut 32, I believe it is.

[News Reporter]

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[Clay Travis]

Okay, so that is ongoing. It is obsessive coverage for two straight weeks. And candidly, very little in the in the realm of certainty that has come out, Savannah Guthrie has put out a video trying to address the people who have kidnapped her mom. Allegedly the search for the guy who was on, I presume it's a man that was on the video does not seem to have led to any tangible result there. So that is the latest on that one. Buck, you were mentioning Obama. We'll get to him in the third hour for everything he had to say. But I did want to play this. Gavin Newsom, who is certainly running for president, went overseas to Munich and he said in Germany that ICE are basically Nazis. And this is the argument that is continuing to be made to go overseas to Germany, the birthplace of actual Nazis. And, and make this argument is, I think, even beyond the pale for Gavin Newsom. It also confirms that. But basically everybody that Democrats don't like is a Nazi or is Hitler. This is just a never ending argument that they are on the constant Nazi merry go round with. But here was Gavin Newsom saying this in Germany, the country that did produce actual Nazis. Oh, today, ICE agents enforcing America's immigration law. They're Nazis.

[Gavin Newsom]

Listen, I want to remember all those images of masked men, the secret police, something familiar in Germany. Those first images came out of my state, the second largest city in the United States of America. We saw 4,000 National Guard federalized, first time. We never seen anything like this. And 700 active duty Marines sent not overseas, but to the second largest city in the United States of America, militarizing the streets of my city. Masked men. Masked men showing up, unaccountable. No idea. IDs.

[Clay Travis]

Okay. I mean, look, as ridiculous as these arguments are, so it's even more absurd to go to the birthplace of legitimate Nazis and argue that ICE are Nazis. And I will point out, Buck, that right after President Trump got shot In July of 2024, Democrats came out and said, oh, the Nazi rhetoric has to stop. And then lasted about, what, two weeks? And then they went right back to Republicans or Nazis. Donald Trump's a Nazi. Everybody that votes for Donald Trump is Nazi adjacent. And now ICE are the new Nazis.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, but the problem that they have is if Trump is a Nazi, why should the Nazi rhetoric stop?

[Clay Travis]

And then you should go back to why should not kill him. Right. I mean, that's the real challenge of this. Right?

[Buck Sexton]

He's actually the next level of the analysis.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, they should kill it.

[Buck Sexton]

The people who are saying, hey, maybe we tone down the Nazi rhetoric are people who have said he's a Nazi. So if you've said he's a Nazi. Why would you tone it down? If you've said it as a Nazi and he's not, that's the only reason you would tone it down. So they're essentially admitting that they're scumbag liars, which is not a surprise. But that's. That's where things are. It's. It's also tiresome. But, Clay, that kind of psychological manipulation is very common among demagogues and among leftist totalitarian movements, which I get into in some detail in manufacturing delusion. The fantastic book is available tomorrow on wherever fine books are sold, including how.

[Clay Travis]

Many interviews are you. Where will people hear you promoting the new book, which is out tomorrow? And everybody. Everybody should go by a whole.

[Buck Sexton]

A whole bunch of shows. Some of. Some of your favorite conservatives are very kindly going to be having me on their programs, which you know will be a lot of fun. Not going to get on Rogan.

[Clay Travis]

I don't.

[Buck Sexton]

I don't know what it is at this point. At this point, like, Rogan's had so many episodes. Neither you nor I have been on that show.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

And at this point, it's like, what, I'm going to be episode number 6,000 in, like, the year 2055 or something. Like, you know, there's like, comedians. I've never heard of that. No one's ever heard of that. Go on there. People are coming back for, like, their eighth round. I'm just like, all right, man.

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[Buck Sexton]

No love from Joe. What can I tell you? I. It is. It is what it is. There are only two CIA guy writes what's clearly going to be a bestseller about mind control. Why would Joe Rogan want to talk about that book? I don't know. No interest.

[Clay Travis]

Only two outlets that I would want to do that I haven't done. I mean, this. Honestly, Bill Maher, for whatever reason, won't have me on. I think it has to do with the. The banning from cnn because they're owned. HBO and cnn. Same parent company, Warner Brothers. I would go on that show. You went on that show. You've been a fun sort of Donny Brook over a variety of different issues. And then Joe Rogan is the other one I would put on. Otherwise, like, I don't even. I feel like I've done every. Well, the View.

[Buck Sexton]

Right.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, there are some that would just be fun to go on.

[Buck Sexton]

I have a dream, Clay. I have a dream that one day the two of us will get to do the View together. And. And now maybe this is a fantasy more than a dream. But it would be a lot of fun. That's all I could say. It would be great time for everybody, all involved.

[Clay Travis]

Well, were you on when I had Brendan Carr on? I think you were out that day, the chairman of the fcc. And I said, just so you know, because he's got continues to give guidance about the fact. I don't know if you saw this story. I think it's a huge story. I meant to share it on my Twitter feed about the unfair treatment of political ideas. Did you see Apple News, which is among the biggest of all news sources, has basically not linked Fox News, the New York Post, the Wall Street Journal. It only links left leaning news sources. And so if you're out there and you were just super busy and you get your iPhone and you used Apple News to inform you as to what is going on in the world. Apple News only cites left wing news organizations. It never ever cites. And I'm talking about big organisms. I mean Fox News kind of big, the Wall Street Journal kind of big. New York Post, pretty big, never cites him. And so it's actually not only the citation. The site traffic that a site like that sends is a basically in kind contribution to the overall business itself. Because if you go look, and I know this because I ran outkick for a long time and you go look at the data on where traffic comes from even now in an AI age, Google, Apple News, these big sort of news aggregating sites drive tremendous traffic that is translated into real dollars from an advertising perspective. And they're not even citing it. But when we had Brendan Carr on, I pointed out to him, hey, you know, Buck and I emailed the ladies at the View because they argued that they invite conservatives but they just don't come on. And I thought Bill Maher was funny about this too because Bill Maher said, yeah, basically every conservative that I invite comes on the show. Lots of left wingers won't come on because they are afraid of leaving their bubble where no one challenges their arguments.

[Buck Sexton]

This is, this is something that I've been saying Clay for a very long time which is starting even on like I was a college Republican in the year, the first time in the year 2000. Okay, so going back quite a ways, starting in college and then all the way up through if you happen to do anything in media, writing, TV work, any of that kind of stuff, radio, the right wing ecosystem was one of constant, you know, iron sharpens iron, right? It was constant heat and challenge and difficulty. And you know, how do you get stronger through overcoming Challenges through resilience through. Whereas the left wing, you got to just bounce from easy, overpaid gig. The easy overpaid gig. Huge ecosystem for you to go to, never challenged or whatever. They got intellectually flabby and flimsy and they got the media that they deserve as a result of that. It's really true. I, Clay and I have said talk about this before. We could sit here, there's a whole. I could name a dozen. And I mean big name people, right? Because the left lose. Like, what about this guy who's like an assistant professor of this at Harvard who's also writing for, you know, HuffPost on the, on occasion. No, I mean their big names, our big names are way more competent and way more capable and intelligent than their big names in media. It's not even close. Not even close would absolutely smoke them. Not just Clay and me, a lot of the others out there too, our team. Just better, smarter individuals because we've had to be. Because it wasn't, it wasn't possible to just go everywhere you wanted to go and have everyone applaud whatever dumbass stuff you had to say, which is true of a lot of people that worked at, you know, CNN and then ABC and then, you know, and at the BBC and then, you know, all these different. It's all the same crap.

[Clay Travis]

Well, you have to know the full scope of arguments, which is the only way that you can actually be well versed. And I still think most people on the left have no earthly idea what arguments we make on this show. And I said, I mean, they don't even hear when their side people like AOC embarrass themselves at the Munich conference. It just doesn't even echo or ricochet inside of their world such that they can realize that they're supporting true ignoramuses.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. We've got a lot of calls, a lot of things to talk about today which we're looking forward to with all of of you. I also want to tell you our friend Alex Baronson. Clay put out an article over the weekend talking about how healthy coffee is for people. Specifically a big study that he cited in his substack that looked at how it decreases dementia. A great time to remind everybody of Crockett Coffee. Substantial decrease according to some major study.

[Clay Travis]

Long term 5%. This is like a big deal.

[Buck Sexton]

Big deal. Substantial decrease in dementia. So coffee is not just delicious. It doesn't just Give you a boost, some evidence that it's actually good for you, which is great. And we love coffee. I drink it every day. And I drink our coffee. Crockett coffee every day. And it's.

[Clay Travis]

I am drinking Crockett right now out of my mug down in Florida, where I have. You can get light roast, dark roast, medium roast. You can get organic. You can get this mushroom coffee, which is supposed to be even healthier than. Than traditional coffee. And all of it'[e-mail] when you subscribe, I think use code book. You can get an autographed copy of the new book. Right? Didn't we determine that? Which is going to be out tomorrow?

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, I think we're doing that. I gotta. I gotta figure that out.

[Clay Travis]

There you go. Code book. But put book on the. Put Buck on the hot seat here.

[Buck Sexton]

Okay? Code book. We gotta get some code book for subscribers. Gotta figure that out for the first hundred subscribers.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, no. Make him sign more than that. I signed. I signed a thousand. We have thousands of subscribers, Buck. Sack it up. Get some. Get that. Get that wrist.

[Buck Sexton]

How do I get all those books, though? You know, I gotta figure this out.

[Clay Travis]

You gotta buy them. Figure it out. All right, when we come back, you should go buy Buck's book, You should drink our coffee, and you should hear what Barack Obama had to say in a sit down. Also, I gotta tell you, it's rare that I'm surprised by what people are angry about in the talkbacks. This one surprises me. We can have some fun with this when we come back. Anger afoot. We will play it for all of you. And thanks to everybody out there hanging out with us on a day when a lot of people are off, we are hanging out with all of you. How many of you are working?

[Buck Sexton]

Have you upset the mustache? Contingency. Contingency of America. Because you're an apostate. Now back to bearding.

[Clay Travis]

No, this is both of us, actually.

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