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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Good Friday edition of the program. We are rolling with many of you. Lots of people out of work today, off work today, maybe more accurately. I hope all of you, wherever you may be, lots of people traveling as well. I hope everybody traveling, I hope you, wherever you may be, are having a good blessed weekend beginning with you and your family. Buck and I are here with you. Let me fill you in on a couple of big stories that are going on. One of the two crew members has been rescued after an F15 was reportedly shot down in Iran. Rapid search underway for the second of those pilots. And again one pilot rescued. Intense search for the other way. More new jobs created than was anticipated as we began the first hour of the program. Letting all of you, you know, and I am monitoring, making sure that I'm on top of the absolute latest on that search for the second pilot. Again, one pilot has been rescued since the start of this program when we brought you the news about that. All right, we've been talking about the Artemis mission. We have talked about a, a great deal already in the first hour. Some fun, Buck. Sylvia writes in clay. I am 88 years old and I heard that kid say friggin and I have hearing aids. Do you need hearing aids? Thanks for listening, Sylvia. I don't think so. Although to be fair, Buck, I went through the drive through this morning to get my kids some McDonald's because they're out of school today for Good Friday. And the lady, I think she was Hispanic, was trying to ask me if I needed jelly for my buttered biscuits. And I had no idea what she was saying coming through the intercom there at the drive through. So maybe, maybe I'm on my way to needing hearing aids. I don't know. Although I do think there's quite a few people that also heard on that clip the exact same thing that I heard. Maybe it's just a sign.
Buck Sexton
No, no, no.
Clay Travis
Of how dirty our, our, our hearings are. Okay, let's see. Hold on.
Buck Sexton
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I need to know something. Here you go. Butter and jelly. Are you a butter and jelly guy on biscuits? You double up?
Clay Travis
Yes, I am, but I'm fat. So these biscuits were these.
Buck Sexton
You know. You think you know a guy. You think you know a guy.
Clay Travis
These biscuits were for my 11 year old who all he wanted from McDonald's for breakfast this morning. He said, dad, just get me three butter biscuits. So, so he just wanted butter on him. Straight butter biscuits. And so I was trying to order those and the jelly question got me all befuddled. Okay, we do have a couple of talkbacks here. By the way, the clip that is that we played in the first hour was of a little kid who was at the Artemis launch and was super excited. I thought he used a different F word. This is pretty funny. Robert from Fort Bragg, North Carolina, 106.1 FM making a joke here. See if you get it very clean.
Buck Sexton
Buck Robert from North Carolina, Fort Bragg area. Now I can see why y' all haven't called it the Buck and Clay Show. Say that fast five times real quick.
Clay Travis
That gets you in trouble. I, there's 100% fair point.
Buck Sexton
I would be scared. I'd be scared to say it five times real fast on the radio, get
Clay Travis
a call from the boss. You know what I mean? FCC would take us out in handcuffs regularly if we had to. If we had to pronounce that coming in and out. This is, this is Linda, who is. Says she's dying laughing. It was fricking or frigging made me laugh even reading those, these emails. I feel like I'm, I'm dancing on, on very, very thin ice. Paul from Wisconsin, News Talk 1130. What you got for us, Paul?
Buck Sexton
Hey, Clay.
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Buck Sexton
clip by that kid.
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That was fricking hilarious.
Clay Travis
See, I can hear him. I can hear the enunciation there. All right, you know what else is fricking hilarious? It is Gavin Newsom's wife has started to go viral for being crazy. And I don't know how many of you have heard this, but, but she's been doing a lot of interviews and so far she had kind of fallen under the radar. But she seems to be a true Adherent of the woke virus. Buck. And here she is saying she gives her boys baby dolls to learn about caregiving. Cut 19.
Buck Sexton
I've given our boys dolls, even if
Clay Travis
they tear the head off.
Buck Sexton
I've given them dolls to learn that
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
What I've done with both my daughters and my sons is if I'm reading a book and the protagonist is a male, I just change the he to a she and it just normalizes.
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Buck Sexton
I want them to see that women can be the center of a story, that women matter, that women are interesting.
Clay Travis
What a weirdo Buck this is.
Buck Sexton
You know, you did something that I wasn't expecting. You made me have some sympathy for Gavin Newsom. That guy's got his hands full, man. That guy's. That's rough.
Clay Travis
You haven't started reading books, kids. He's only one. Or you're reading, I guess maybe at bedtime.
Buck Sexton
Last night I'm reading. Can I tell you something that's really funny to me, actually. Speed is going to be one in about a week. April 11th is his birthday. So we're very excited. We're going to have a wild party for our one year old involving lots of his favorite little, like fruit crisp things that he likes to eat so much. And he has a bunch of books by his bed. Now he can't read, obviously. I mean, he'll be able to read very soon because he's my son, but he's not yet one, so he can't read and. But he. The only book he wants. It's almost like magic. We have a whole bunch of children's books for him. Big pictures and things where the wild things Are. That's it. If you try to put another book in front of him, he slaps it away. He loves where the Wild Things Are, which I got to say, I mean, you grew up. I had that when I was a kid. You had it that the. The. What is it about that book? It's just stood the test of time in a way. I would have thought there'd be all these new children's books now and everything else that book is. Is like a classic.
Clay Travis
Among classics, Goodnight Moon was one that my kids absolutely loved. That every time I read it, I'm kind of amazed at how popular it is. I bet every mom, dad, grandma, grandpa out there has read Goodnight Moon at some point in time. And my thought when I heard that clip, the doll's part was weird, but it didn't make as I didn't focus on it as much as the back end there. Changing the gender of the heroes of children's stories is a crazy thing to do. I mean it is like I'm thinking about it in the context of like my kids all loved Harry Potter before they could read we read Harry Potter. The fact that Hermione Granger is a girl is a significant part of that story. The fact that Harry Potter is a boy is a significant part of that story. They have male names, they have female names. Gender is real. The idea that you would be changing the gender of anyone in a children's story is something that a crazy person would do. Like this is not a normal thought process. And it actually thought to me, this manufactured delusion, she has become buck delusional. She has like, it actually makes no sense at all the choice that she's making. And it's more work and it's nonsensical.
Buck Sexton
I just got so excited. Clay used the title of the book. Thank you. Sorry. Just threw it in there. I appreciate that Clay's helping with the promo.
Clay Travis
It is a manufactured delusion with her book. I mean it just makes no sense.
Buck Sexton
It's becoming a phrase. It's becoming a phrase more and more people are using. That's why you got to go get the book. But Clay, I think that Gavin Newsom's wife is exactly. This is what's so funny about it. If you and I were coming up with what's Gavin Newsom's wife like? An actress who sort of up talks and is like really about feminism and like female leads in a story and that's what it like I, I knew this. I'd never seen his wife until recently or I'd never heard her speak or anything. And that's. I said, yeah, that's exactly what I would assume. Gavin Newsom's wife is like, you just tell. You can just tell the same way that I've never heard aoc. Is she married to that guy? This kind of like a red haired dude? That's. Are they marri.
Clay Travis
He got married to the red haired guy?
Buck Sexton
Yeah, yeah, the red haired guy. By the way, I'm going to say this. It's good work for him.
Clay Travis
No doubt.
Buck Sexton
You know, there's some guys who see a guy who's going, you know, I, I married up, you know, whatever Fine. That's. That's the whole.
Clay Travis
The whole point of being. I mean, the whole goal coverage of men, I think, should be to end up with women that are better looking than you are. I mean, that's a.
Buck Sexton
That's a good.
Clay Travis
That's a good life goal.
Buck Sexton
This is why we sit in cubicles and do all these things we do for so many hours. So we can, like, level up a couple levels, you know, with the ladies. But I would say there are some guys who see a guy who is. Who has out kicked his coverage, you know, and he's gone up a couple levels on the. On the hotness scale for his partner, and. And they get, like, jealous or they think it's not fair. I'm always like, high five, buddy. It's good to know. It's good to know that guys are getting it done out there, you know, it's good to know that we can still. We can still aspire. So I think that aoc's husband deserves credit at least for that. But I would also say I don't think he's a bro y guy. You could just tell. You're like, he's married to aoc. He probably kind of mumbles about like, yeah, I'm a male feminist, you know. Yeah. You can just tell. This is the reality of who these people are. You can tell based on what they would be subjected to day in and out. So Gavin Newsom, of course, he's not going to have. His wife's not going to be some cool chick that you just want to sit down and hang out with and have a conversation. She's pretty, of course. You know, I mean, Gavin Newson, very superficial guy. Of course she's pretty. But is she, like, talking about things that she doesn't really understand? And does she think that, like, everyone from the south is, like, maybe kind of racist? Yes. No surprise.
Clay Travis
Yeah. Well, I mean, I think also, yes. This is what, Wife two. This is the wife after he slept with his best friend's wife while he was the mayor of San Francisco.
Buck Sexton
Was he married to Kim Guilfoyle? I believe he was, yeah.
Clay Travis
Oh, yeah, that was his first wife. Yeah. But I had somebody come up to me over the. The weekend who knows Gavin Newsom actually quite well. And we were talking about 2028. That's how it came up. Like, who are the Democrats going to nominate? Not like we were just sitting around, hey, let's talk about Gavin Newsom. And he said that he was a Californian, and he said that he knew Gavin Newsom. Quite well and lots of people did. And they said that for people who knew him on a personal level this is people that actually know him. The sleeping with his best friend's wife. While I think was it his best friend was like his chief of staff in some way. There was a connection. There too was a line of demarcation that a lot of them cut Gavin Newsom off and just said this guy's a sociopath. And I think a lot of guys out there kind of can get this. I mean look, cheating on your wife not a good thing to do. Cheating on your wife when it is your best friend's wife supposedly is. I mean for a lot of guys
Buck Sexton
is just like that's lunatic, lunatic self.
Clay Travis
I mean it's sociopathic. Like you need significant help style decision making. And that's why he's somebody who knew him personally and said that was a point where a lot of people were just done with him on a personal level. And it doesn't get talked about that much. But I do think it's significant.
Buck Sexton
He's the perfect Democrat. This is my whole point. He's like a lizard person who just changes with the temperature around him as necessary. He's a chameleon. He turns into the color of his surround. It doesn't matter. He doesn't care. There's nothing left inter. There's no like voice from the soul internally that's saying, hey man, that's really gross. Don't say that or hey, you really shouldn't support that. No, anything. Perfect vessel for the Democrat. Joe Biden in many ways perfect vessel for the Democrats. Look, sounds you know presents old timey grandpa that like couldn't be that much. Couldn't be that radical, couldn't be that progressive. And you know, of course all lie. Gavin Newsom in his own way perfect for the Democrats. Soulless but slick. Soulless but slick. That's what they need, that's what they want. Someone who will say whatever. People got mad as we had by the way. I think the Democrat who came on seems like a. It seems like a nice guy. I think he's confused about what political party he belongs to or he's lying about what he actually thinks about that stuff. Which I can't. If someone says hey. If I say hey, do you agree with Trump securing the border? I go, yes, I think that's a great idea. What do you want me to do? Be like, no, you're lying. What am I supposed to do? The guy says it's a great idea. Ok, so but that Guy, I think, you know, I think he's confused about his party, but I think a lot of his general impulses. General. General Harris. We had a lot of general impulses make sense and come from a place of honor. Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom doesn't know how to spell honor. Gavin Newsom is. But I say that with some degree. Clay of not reverence.
Clay Travis
What's the word?
Buck Sexton
I'm like, I almost respect how soulless he is. It's. It's pretty amazing. Like his. His X factor is that he'll say and do anything he has to do for power. It does not matter. It's actually very Hillary Clinton in that sense. Anything goes, whatever works. That's very powerful. You know, you guys saw me yesterday and I was actually drinking this glass of blue water. I mean, you know, not clear because that's what water is. It was actually like this light blue color. That was Chad mode. Because I take it during the show sometimes to get me fired up, I got to keep up with Clay who's like the Energizer Bunny. This guy's like a freak show of media. I've never seen anything like it. He'll do 50 media hits. I wake up, I'm like, you did like six Fox hits last night. You've only been awake for 10 hours. So how do I try to keep up here on the show? Chad mode from Chalk. Chalk is an incredible company and the Chalk Daily product has been on my desk for years now. Chalk Daily is great. That's got a lot of things in it you can take every day, obviously, Chalk Daily and that's going to be helping with a whole spectrum of things that include energy, drive, focus and the Chalk male vitality stack. For a lot of you guys out there, if you want to do a little bit of something that specifically boosts testosterone levels over time, up to 20% in just three months according to studies. That's where the male vitality stack comes in. But basically, your one stop shop for the highest quality supplements is chalk. Go to chalk choq.com unlock chalk spring special. Get yourself some Chad mode. Try this stuff. I just drink it straight in water, by the way. I just. I don't even need to make. You can mix it with juice or whatever you want, but I just take it in water. I think it's delicious. Go to chalk.com choq.com when you subscribe with my name, Buck is your promo code. Chalk will pack a free 99 bag of chalk lit powder with your first delivery. That's chalk choq.com code buck chalk choq.com code buck stories of freedom, Stories of America.
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Buck Sexton
to Clay and Buck. Let's get, let's get to some of the latest heat from, well, from our audience, of course, our beloved audience. I was trying to think of what we could do in the next one minute of time we have. Mike Rogers is going to be joining us during the program today. He's a former FBI 230 hour from now. The way the way Clay looked at me, I was like, I didn't get his name wrong, did I? That's always, that's always a bummer. But yes, there will be, it'll be Mike Rogers. Join us talking about some of the situation in Iran. As we know, there's one pilot recovered. I believe they're still trying to, we're still trying to figure out what's happened with the other pilot downed over in Iran. And in the meantime, there's a lot of things going on here. This is something that came up, oh, wait, I got 30 seconds. I'm like, no, do you want to do a little bit of the Pam Bondi aftermath?
Clay Travis
Yeah, let's talk about the Bondi situation. We come back on the flip side because that story kind of got snowed under with everything else going on. Usually when you fire the attorney general, it gets more attention than it has. We'll talk about some of the names that are being considered bandied about whether Lee Zeldin is going to be the guy. Is there a possibility that they decide to stay in house and elevate Todd Blanch? Could they go into the Senate? And we'll get some more of your talkbacks. A lot of you reacting here on this Good Friday. I want to tell you though, you can save up to a thousand dollars right now, £2,50 if you go to Pure Talk right now, £250 say clay and Buck, you get to keep your same phone and your same phone number and you could potentially save $1,000 over the course of a year. Tremendous difference for you and for everyone else out there. No matter what you use right now, you could be saving a lot more $25 a month for unlimited talk text, plenty of data. Compare that to your current cell phone bill. Calculate the amount you'll be saving every month. Switch your service to PureTalk. Dial £250, say our names, Clay and Buck. To make the switch to PureTalk today. That's £250, say Clay and Buck. Switch to America's wireless company, PureTalk. They share your values. They will make a tremendous difference for you. Get hooked up now. £250 say clay and buck. Speaking truth and having fun. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Welcome back in Clay Travis, BUCK Sexton SHOW okay, yesterday during the program, Pam Bondi, attorney general out. Not even very much discussion today about the fact that President Trump moved on from his attorney general yesterday. These are the names that are at the top right now of the poly market. Who will be the next attorney general? Prediction Markets. Buck, I'm going to hit these for you. We talked about a variety of different names. Lee Zeldin is a Pretty big favorite, 53% right now. Coin flip. But he's the favorite to be the next attorney general. He is the current EPA head. Then you have Todd Blanch, who is the interim was working as the second in charge of the Department of Justice has now been elevated. For those of you certainly who remember, Todd Blanche was President Trump's private attorney during much of the criminal mess that he had when he was not in office, they seem to have a very good relationship. And then in third place, 25% chance right now that it will be Todd Blanche. In third place, Judge Jeanine Pirro, who is right now the head of the D.C. attorney's office that has been prosecuting as the district attorney basically of the District of Columbia. Many of those cases. Obviously also very well known to many of you as a panelist on the Five, which is the most popular show on cable before she was elevated into this job. Couple of other names that are out there, they are substantial underdogs. Ken Paxton. Now, I don't know, Buck, if Ken Paxton could be confirmed by the United States Senate. He is the current attorney general of Texas. He's been on this program many times. He is running against John Cornyn in the Senate primary. This would be kind of a masterstroke for Trump. Ken Paxton has been a longtime ally of President Trump. If he were able, and I don't know if he would be able to, but if he were able to be confirmed by the Senate, remember, we only have 53 votes. So you assume unified opposition from Democrats. Ken Paxton maybe could be an incredible choice because it would end the Senate battle in Texas and basically take Texas and the amount of money that's going to be spent between now and May, late May, off the table and kind of put Talarico down in a way that he would be unlikely to win. It ends the acrimony of the primary. Ken Paxton would get a more important, I would argue, job as the attorney general than he has right now in the Senate. Those are the top four you and I talked about the fact that we thought Ron DeSantis would be an amazing attorney general. I'll stand by that. If they wanted to go in the Senate, Mike Lee could make a lot of sense because theoretically he would be easy to confirm. That's kind of what I would say. Top five or six. You mentioned Harmeet Dillon. Where do you see this going? Do you think the favorites, do you think it's very likely it's going to be Lee Zeldin and or Todd Blanche? That's about a 85% chance according to the prediction markets. Or do you think Trump could just go off the board?
Buck Sexton
I think that Trump is running yet another episode of the Apprentice, the Apprentice, Department of Justice, meaning that he wants everyone to be in a, in a tizzy, running around thinking about who could be, who will be. You know, the only person who knows Clay is Donald Trump. I think that he's probably still considering what his options are. He's going to listen to different voices over the days ahead. I think all of these options are, are strong, the ones that he's talking about. And I don't think Ron DeSantis, I don't think he will be asked, nor do I think he would take the job, quite honestly for a bunch of reasons.
Clay Travis
Let me ask you this, by the way. Sorry to cut you off, but, but I get a lot of responses on this. What is Ron DeSantis going to do? He is an elite political talent who has transformed the state of Florida in his eight years. His term ends in November. He's not going to run again. Byron Donalds, I believe, is going to be the next governor of the great state of Florida. I think Byron Donald's going to do a good job. But Ron DeSantis, come November, basically, I know he'll serve until January when we have a sworn in swearing in occurring of the new governor. What is he going to do?
Buck Sexton
Well, the easiest thing would be to go into the private sector and make a whole bunch of money, which I think he could easily do. The less easy thing that I actually think is the more likely thing is that he will run for president, but he'll run for president as Ron DeSantis would saying, Hey, I think I'D be the best for this job, but I'd also be a great secretary of state under a JD Vance or a Marco Rubio or whatever administration. So I think he's going to run. I think he's going to run because I think now we've seen running for president and this has been played out many times in recent elections going back now decades. Running for president is a brand enhancing and sometimes cabinet position enabling maneuver. So why not? So that's what I think.
Clay Travis
He's so start. I mean, and basically, as we have talked about it sounds like he would be out of office. But the presidential primary starts basically In January of 27, when people come out of Christmas and New Year's, the 2028 presidential cycle will begin. By January and February, March, everybody will be announcing that they are going to be running for president. We'll see how many they end up actually being.
Buck Sexton
I hope everyone enjoyed the one year of Trump's first or Trump's second term where we weren't essentially gearing up for either a midterm or a presidential election, because that's the way that this goes. We had one year and now we're in the midterm year.
Clay Travis
Yes.
Buck Sexton
And then it's going to be the beginning of the presidential cycle. So we're going to be jumping into this right away. But yeah, I think, I think Ron's going to run and I think very much in the way that, you know, he ran. He even ran last time, which obviously didn't work against Trump, didn't work very well at all. But he'll run on. Hey, guys, I think I'm great for the job, but he's not, it's, he's, he doesn't get, he's not going to get ugly with fellow Republicans. I think he'll probably be, if he does run, and I'm right, he'll be smiling at Rubio on the stage again, I don't even know. There's a lot of talk as to whether JD Or Rubio is the heir apparent. I don't really have a. I think they're both really solid choices. I don't really have a dog in that fight. Some people feel very, very strongly about it. I'm somewhat agnostic. I think they're both. If I thought one was much weaker than the other, I'd have a strong opinion on it. But right now I want to see that play out. But I think, yeah, Ron would be somebody who, if he, if he were to run again, it would be, hey, let's see what kind of traction I get, Slash, he would be a really good AG or secretary. Said, I don't think he wants to be the AG at the end of Trump's second term. Quite honestly, that's, that's where he doesn't want to go.
Clay Travis
Let me give you one. It's a sad story. Justice Alito report came down, sounds like he's fine, but he was hospitalized in March after a Federalist related issue with his health. They said he was dehydrated. He had to be taken to the hospital. If you are looking at the landscape of available candidates for the Supreme Court and you are trying to avoid a Ketanji Brown Jackson situation, I think Ron DeSantis would be an incredible Supreme Court justice. I don't know that anybody else has ever said this. Alito and Clarence Thomas, he has a good relationship with both. I don't know that he would want it. I haven't Talked to Ron DeSantis about this, but I'll tell you a story. I don't think I've told this story on the air before. DeSantis is a legal nerd and that's not an attack, that is an endorsement. He reads the actual opinions as one should as the chief executive of a state. He is a strong legal scholar. Some people would prefer at times to be immersed in the policy details, the challenges of legalities. Other people kind of float above it. I don't think Trump is sitting down, pouring through Supreme Court justices like opinions, saying what? Can you believe this footnote? Is this dicta or is this the official opinion? I know he was at the argument on Wednesday. I think he gets the big picture impact. I don't think he goes into the nitty gritty. I think Ron DeSantis, a nitty gritty guy. I think Ron DeSantis as a replacement for Alito or if Clarence Thomas, these guys are both 75 plus ish and buck. We may lose the Senate and nobody else wants to talk about the fact that if we lose the Senate, Trump has no ability to appoint new Supreme Court justices. And who knows when the Republicans will have the Senate and the presidency again. I don't, I, I, I may be, I feel like I'm the only person, like hitting this, hitting this button and talking about it. But we saw what happened with Ruth Bader Ginsburg. When you get to be 75, if you're having every now and then a little bit of a health condition, it can turn in a hurry. And next thing you know, Ruth Bader Ginsburg is getting replaced by Amy Coney Barrett. And that reverse could happen. Right. Clarence Thomas could be replaced by the equivalent of Katanji Brown Jackson if Democrats have the ability to this same thing with Justice Alito. I think there needs to be a real discussion behind closed doors about health and whether in the summer it could make sense when this term ends in June to have a Supreme Court confirmation. And I'll just toss that out there. The timing would be perfect on a Ron DeSantis on the Supreme Court. Have you heard anybody else ever make that suggestion or have I blown your mind with this idea?
Buck Sexton
No, that's up there with Linda from Arizona talking about deploying ice to if this were to happen. I've never heard anyone talk about Ron for the Supreme Court.
Clay Travis
So that would be quite he's 45, 46 years old. So you got a long Runway. Young. Right. As judges would go. I think it could make a ton of sense.
Buck Sexton
Yeah. Interesting. I, I, I can see that more than Ted, Ted Cruz wants to be president.
Clay Travis
You're you and I would be in agreement that Ted Cruz is going to run for President 2028. I mean, period. He'll start running in January of 27.
Buck Sexton
Yeah. People are going to say, oh, but what about there's not the same feeling about this which we all very much heard. When people ran, including Ron DeSantis against Trump. It was it's not their time. It has to be Trump. It has to be Trump. I do. There is not a unified voice of the Republican Party that I think is going to insist that there is only one going forward. I haven't seen that maybe Trump. The only way that changes is if Trump says everyone maga, JD Or Marco. But let's assume it's JD JD Is my guy. He is the, you know, Trump would have to do that in a very clear, very concerned. I don't know if he'll do that. I think if he just kind of says, you know, I'm going to let MAGA decide, it's up to them, you know, let the Republican base do what it does. I think you're going to have a
Clay Travis
lot of people run, actually, and I
Buck Sexton
think it'll be much more interesting. There's only one Trump.
Clay Travis
Right.
Buck Sexton
I mean, it's a different thing. No one else is Trump.
Clay Travis
I'm going to give you a crazy take part two that no one else has said that I don't think anybody else has said. I think there's a possibility that Marco Rubio would rather be commissioner of the NFL after his secretary of state run than Vice president, because I think he's doing a tremendous job as Secretary of State. We've talked about vp. You know, there's the talk of, hey, Marco's going to run with J.D. i don't know that Marco Rubio wants to be vice president. I. I think he might see it as a demotion relative to what he gets to do right now as Secretary of State. I think he might be done with government. To Marco Rubio's credit, he's never made any money. He's in his 50s. And everybody out there used to talk about Condoleezza Rice wanting to be one day the NFL commissioner. Roger Goodell may. Oh, you never heard that story? Oh, yeah. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. She was a top candidate in the public arena to be the Commissioner of the NFL.
Buck Sexton
This I do know. Goodell makes like 40 or something million a year, Right.
Clay Travis
I think there is an argument that the best job in America is commissioner of the NFL when you consider the amount of money they make, the fact that you're selling something that everybody loves football. I think Marco Rubio could be the. When Roger Goodell steps down. Remember, Goodell's dad used to be a senator. I mean, he's of political, you know, background in many ways. I think Marco Rubio could be the next NFL commissioner. And I think he would prefer that. This is where people are going to say, you're crazy.
Buck Sexton
I'd rather be NFL commissioner than vice president.
Clay Travis
I think I would, too. I mean, if you gave me the choice right now, would you rather be vp? And I say it only in the context of Marco is getting to do the Secretary of State job at an elite level. Vice president, you're kind of just floating around there, right? Especially vice president. I think JD has found this to be a tough spot. When the president is the sun, the moon, the stars. You're sort of a secondary by far satellite there. Marco Rubio as Secretary of State and, sorry, as next NFL Commissioner, and Ron DeSantis is next Supreme Court Justice. If I hit both those buck, I might have to retire because I don't know that I would have more incredible predictions.
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Clay Travis
Person who called in and complained about
Buck Sexton
having a Democrat candidate on to be as close minded as the Democrats. I respect the man's accepting the challenge to come on your show even if I don't respect his politics. And I certainly wouldn't turn you off if you had him on. Thank you. And we felt the same way about the way that at least he was willing to show up and answer questions. So, you know, there you go. Look, it was a unique situation because we had on his competitor in that district. And so to be fair, under, under the rules, we got to have him on too. We're not, we're not usually going to have congressmen in a primary on. But that happened. Or sorry, Congressman, from a random election on. But that happened.
Clay Travis
I think it speaks to also again, we mentioned this at the time, but the growth of the program overall and the fact that even Democrats now, you know, if you watch Fox News, there are Democrats who are saying John Fetterman's on Fox News more than he's on any other program. I think at this point the audience is so big that if you want to talk to a lot of people, you have to come on places like Fox News and this program. And the Democrats that are willing to do it, I think deserve some credit for stepping a little bit into the lions den.
Buck Sexton
And I'll be honest with you, I also think some of these other brands out there, like cnn, if Anderson Cooper wants to sit down at like the top of his show and interview me. That I might do because that could be interesting. But hey, will you be on a three person panel where you can shout at each other? No, because not worth it. There's not enough people watching and I don't care. So they don't have the value proposition that we do or that Fox does of mass scale. Big audience.
Clay Travis
Amen. Tom in Pennsylvania, former F14 pilot. You wanted to tell us the search going on for one of the pilots out there. Thanks for calling.
Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
We trained them in our school as well.
Buck Sexton
And we were socializing after class one day and we were talking about the Falklands War, which was only six years prior to this day. And one of the pilots was telling us that he was one of the two guys that launched on a mission
Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Oh man. We'll have to talk to him more at the top of the next hour. What a tease.
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Episode: Hour 2 - DeSantis for SCOTUS?
Date: April 3, 2026
Hosts: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts
In this Good Friday edition, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton offer their trademark blend of conservative humor, news analysis, and listener interaction. The hour centers on the evolving political landscape: key developments in the Trump administration, speculation over the next U.S. Attorney General, and a headline-grabbing pitch—could Florida Governor Ron DeSantis be a candidate for the Supreme Court? The hosts also lampoon woke parenting trends, discuss Presidential cabinet speculation, and field audience calls and talkbacks, making for an energetic and insightful hour.
Lighthearted but sharp, Travis and Sexton intertwine serious political analysis with irreverent humor. They balance insider political talk with down-to-earth anecdotes and audience engagement, maintaining a conversational, bantering spirit throughout.
This episode is a quintessential mix of Clay and Buck's signature levity and inside-the-Beltway insight. They tackle big “what’s next” political questions, giving listeners smart, sometimes cheeky, and always opinionated takes on everything from the next Attorney General to the (possibly wild) case for Ron DeSantis as a future Supreme Court Justice. The hosts also mock the perils of “woke” parenting, discuss the risky business of political ambition, and highlight how their show increasingly shapes (and attracts) America’s shifting political conversation. A must-listen for anyone seeking both informed speculation and a few hearty laughs.