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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Nate Silver
I'm Nate Silver.
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Maria Konnikova
And I'm Maria Konnikova. On our podcast Risky Business, we talk everything from politics to poker and from.
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Nate Silver
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Buck Sexton
Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now. Just a reminder, we are going to be joined for the first time here on Clay and Buck by Dr. Laura Schlesinger in about half an hour. So we're going to ask her about marriage, life and relationships. I know it's a little bit of a digression from our usual fare of MAGA and Trump and saving the country and defeating the communists, but we are a multifaceted show here. You know what I mean? We're multi tier, multifaceted. And we thought it'd be fun to talk a little about this because I actually think that so much of what we see in this country that as conservatives, we have to address from the perspective of politics and policy. A lot of things actually boil down to parental relationships, the family. You're talking about education, you're talking about the future of this country. You gotta get these other things right. And I think that important voices when it comes to marriage and kids and child rearing and the importance of family, we need more of that these days. And we need more of those discussions, I think, alongside tackling the debt and defeating the forces of jihadism in the Middle east and all this other stuff. So we're going to get into that in a little bit. I did want to speaking of the news, though, I did want to update on where things stand with the border and how the efforts of the Trump administration to rein in illegal immigration are going in this moment. First off, as we know, let's just let Tom Holman, this is cut 20. Let's let him say it. The numbers at the border continuing to show one, how serious Trump and his team are about border security. And two, what a disaster intentionally the Biden border was. This is Tom Holman play 20 quickly. President Trump's promise. President Trump has promised we're going to secure the border, which we've done to a large extent. We're still working on it. But we're at 96% decline on the border. And he promised we're going to prioritize public safety threats and national security threats, illegal aliens in this country. And that's what we're doing. Boston, I said at cpac, their sanctuary state. And we're going to come and despite their sanctuary status, we're going to bring agents there and we're going to take these worse and the worst off the street. 96% reduction, Clay, in illegal border crossings, which is an astonishing figure. Now, of course, they have begun to push back on what's gone on with this. Well, they've been pushing back on the Trenda Aragua expulsions from this country. And this, this was just here's an example of what we face here. People saying things like the expulsions of Trenda Aragua are so bad that, quote, the Nazis got better treatment under the Alien Enemy act. This is cut 18. Play it.
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Maria Konnikova
There are plane loads of people. There were no procedures in place to notify people. Nazis got better treatment under the Alien Enemy act than has happened here where the proclamation required the promulgation of regulations and they had hearing boards before people were removed. And yet here there's no, there's nothing in there about hearing boards. There's no regulations and nothing was adopted by the agency officials that were administering this. The people weren't given notice. They weren't told where they were going. District court here hasn't called into question the constitutionality of the Alien Enemies Act. It's, it's been upheld. As you said, it's a part of the war power. But so that's not the question here. The question is whether the implementation of this proclamation without any process to determine whether people qualify under it.
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Buck Sexton
Clay I think the Democrats once again are showing that they will, they will oppose the administration, even if it means they're going to do more damage to themselves politically.
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Clay Travis
What do you think? So the border is solved. I mean, we talked for four years.
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Buck Sexton
Legal, illegal entry is solved. Deportation is. We're in the very first inning when the first pitches of the first inning.
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Clay Travis
On that, which we said would be way more complicated. Complicated. But the fact that illegal crossings have collapsed, I think that some people are self deporting because they're aware that the open border policy does not mean that they're going to become citizens overnight, which some of them, I think, came to expect. What is, Buck, if we were giving Trump advice, which sometimes we do, if we were giving him advice on something he could come out in favor of, what is the most popular public thing that he could decide to make? An issue that Democrats would reflexively oppose men and women's sports is, is actually a great test case because the idea that you could get the Democrat Party to essentially go to war and make it a dogma that men pretending to be women should be able to compete in women's sports, I never would have believed was possible. What is something that, first of all, it's hard to find things that like 80 or 90% of Americans agree on. What is something that Trump could add to his roster of common sense endorsements that Democrats would then feel obligated to. I mean, they got him. Think about this, Buck. We got them opposed to electric vehicles now. Like, yes, electric vehicles on fire.
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Buck Sexton
We've, we've shown that they, they don't want to stop waste, fraud and abuse of government spending. They don't want to expel dangerous criminal alien illegals from this country who are preying on their communities and have no right to be in the United States in the first place. They don't want to stop the entry of illegals from all over the world and the mass exploitation of the American people that occurs as a result of that. They don't want to stop the Russia Ukraine war. You start to go down this list and you wonder at what point do they realize that they're just kind of the bad guys in all this? I know that's a simplistic way of putting it, but they really are on the wrong side of issue after issue. And I'll tell you this, this Judge Patricia Millett, who was saying that Nazis got better treatment under the Alien Enemy Act. I assure you, I assure you right now, the same people who are saying, oh, we want Trenda Aragua, remember, these are illegals. They're not even supposed to be in the country. They're deportable. Just by virtue of their status, they're being prioritized because they're illegals who are hurting people in America, ok? That's why they're at the front of the line. That's why they got sent. But, Clay, when they're saying it's about process, I assure you, just like mark this down, the next time around, if there is process, they'll be saying, no, we shouldn't. We shouldn't be kicking these illegals out. They don't want them to leave. They lie to you about what they really want, just like they lie to you about how they want a secure border. They don't. They lie to you about how they want to expel these illegal criminals from Trent Aragua. No, they don't. I don't know why they want to do everything that's bad for the country, but it seems quite clear that they do that. That really is the operating, you know, oh, they care about due process. Did they care about due process for J6 individuals held in solitary confinement under the insane, the psychotic theory that they were going to have another insurrection if they were let out? That's insane. That's a lunatic position. They didn't care about due process.
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Clay Travis
Then they got used to the idea that Trump reflexively opposition to him was the route to political power. And what I really think they have not managed to Understand is Trump 2.0 is a far more sophisticated dynamic, incredibly well executed in general team than Trump 1.0. And I'll just go, I think this is significant. How many leaks have come out that the Trump team would not want to have come out in the first two months that he's been in office. Remember, it was like every day there was a new negative story on the Washington Post or the New York Times about internal deliberations, trying to embarrass the Trump team. How much stuff has come out that has been leaked internally that they would want to not be out? I can't even hardly think of anything, Clay.
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Buck Sexton
I think that what we saw in the first Trump administration was Trump brought in people who were playing their own version of Game of Thrones, trying to push each other out of Trump's orbit because they realized how much power and influence there was. If you were close to the Hand of the King this time around, there's none of that nonsense going on. You can tell this team is working as a team. And I can tell you from knowing these people, you know, whether it's Cash as FBI director or Dan Bongino as Deputy director or Pete Hegseth, at Pentagon or I mean, go down the list. These guys know each other. They like each other, Tulsi, I mean, the whole crew. They respect each other and they're working toward the same end. This isn't the petty Kremlinology nonsense that we saw term one.
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Clay Travis
I think that is true. I think also Trump has learned who he can trust, somebody who deserves a lot of attention. We've had Stephen Miller on a bunch. She doesn't even talk to the media anywhere. How about Susie Wiles, chief of staff? Ran a killer campaign in 2024 for Trump, has been almost completely under the radar. I don't even remember seeing her do an interview. Just quietly managing everything. I think Stephen Miller is, as you guys know, we've had him on the show for years, an intellectual heavyweight. Whatever you think of J.D. vance and Pete Hegseth, both very smart guys, very accomplished guys. Tulsi and RFK were Democrats until a few years ago, and now they've just joined the common sense revolution. I think the challenge that Democrats have from a boxing perspective is they can't really get a glove on Trump because even the things you're talking about, Buck, I saw a poll this morning. 66% of Americans believe that the Trinity Nicua gang members should be deported. So the judge is telling him, hey, you got to, you got to turn the plane around and bring all these violent predators back into our country. And the American public is saying, no, I saw a funny joke. It's circulating from a bunch of different people have made it that a federal district court judge has ruled that Jeffrey Goldberg has to be added back to the group chat, which is kind of a funny take on what has emerged as the primary opposition to Trump 2.0, which is the judiciary.
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Buck Sexton
Well, it also, you see with this judiciary, is that they were willing under Biden, these same judges, to allow the just clear and endless violations of law and the dereliction of duty from the Biden executive branch, specifically at the border. But a lot of places and it people are, I think, clay, fed up with, oh, so the rules only mean that we can't fix the country. The rules won't help save the country, you know, so to speak. But the rules mean we can't fix anything. You know, the rules only go against the interest of America somehow right now. And you say, well, a perfect example of this is with illegal immigration. These people are all deportable. All illegals are deportable under the law, and yet they make it impossible to deport them. How is that, how is that reasonable or Rational. Right. You've. They effectively use the process as a weapon against the purpose. And that's what you see with these judges. They'll do it over and over again. But that's what you see with the Democrats as well. Remember, the whole border Wide open policy under Biden was based on false asylum claims. Well, Clay, that's really easy. What they do is they just say, oh, we're going to pretend that we're total morons and that we believe anybody who shows up for any reason at the border and says, I have a credible fear of violence in my country. That's all you had to say. Well, if that's the case, what's the point of having any rules or laws about this in the first place? Right. So they ignore the law and they subvert the law when it's to their purpose, which is, I think, fundamentally undermining this country. And then they turn around and say, I thought you had respect for the Constitution. And we're saying, can we stop fraudulent weight as fraudulent spending and wasteful spending? Can we stop people from entering the country illegal, illegally here? This. You know what I was. I don't have time for this right now. But I wanted to get to Kathy Hochul, who is saying New York State will not help the federal government with its law enforcement efforts when it comes to illegal immigration. I'm sorry, does Kathy Hochul does she just doesn't care about federal law. I mean, doesn't care about federal law. On no other part of the law would you have state law enforcement told, stand down, don't help your federal counterparts.
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Clay Travis
This is also where they're going to lose. I think she probably knows that she's going to lose to the extent that she's smart enough to understand the law. The president sets immigration policy. The states have to follow. We had these battles, unfortunately. Remember when Governor Abbott in Texas was trying to stop the illegal crossings and the Biden administration said, hey, you aren't allowed to protect Texas. I get to make the decisions. And a lot of courts lined up behind Biden because the president gets to decide federal policy as it complex as it deals with immigration and border control. She's going to lose. But again, a lot of this is just, it's going to take months for the courts to tell her that she's going to lose.
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Buck Sexton
I'm not sure she's going to lose. I'm not sure she's going to lose. It depends on what she. Because you can't have federal law enforcement. Can a commandeer state law enforcement to federal law purposes. So it's, it's a, has to be a choice by the governor to assist. So the point I'm making is she's choosing not to assist, which shows you she has no respect for the federal law. Now, to your point on things like not giving DMV data to the feds and things like, I think that may cross the line to obstruction and that's where she may lose in court. But it's going to be picking and choosing here and there what she has.
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Clay Travis
To do and not she's up for reelection next year. She is making the calculated decision that being contra Trump is going to help her in the Democrat primary and then also in the general election. That's, I mean, that's the calculus. And unfortunately, the people of New York lose out because what Trump is doing would actually be beneficial to him. Look, there are lots of good days out there for sports fans and some of them include those of you who are out there celebrating with Sweet sixteen coming up. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Also, Major League Baseball starts back up on Thursday, not to mention NBA, NHL, whatever you like. Prize picks has got a game for you. All you have to do right now, I'm going to give you a pick for Thursday for the Sweet 16, maybe Friday as well. Right now you get a free square. If you go for Cooper Flag to score more than 1/2 a point, you get an automatic win. He's going to score at least one point for Duke in their Sweet 16 game. You can get hooked up with fast withdrawals, safe and secures your money in as little as 15 minutes. MasterCard, Visa, Discover Card, Quick and Easy deposits. You play $5, you get back $50. You can play in California, you can play in Texas, you can play in Florida. You can, you can play in Georgia if you've been feeling left out. 40 plus states, 13 million people playing. Go to prize picks. Use my name, Clay as the code for $50 after you play a $5 lineup. We're going to give you picks Thursday and Friday here on the show to have a little bit more fun with the NCAA tournament. That's prizepix.com code clay saving America. One thought at a time.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, it is Ryan. And I was on a flight the other day playing one of my favorite social spin slot games on chumbacasino.com I looked over the person sitting next to me and you know what they were doing? They were also playing Chumba Casino. Everybody's loving having fun with it. Chumba Casino's home to hundreds of casino style games that you can play for free, anytime, anywhere. So sign up now@chumbacasino.com to claim your free welcome bonus. That's chumbacasino.com and live the Chumba livestock.
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Nate Silver
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Nate Silver
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Maria Konnikova
And I'm Maria Konnikova. We're both journalists and professional poker players. And on our podcast Risky Business, we talk about taking risks in everything from poker to politics.
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Nate Silver
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Maria Konnikova
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Nate Silver
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Maria Konnikova
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Let's hit a couple of your calls in advance of Dr. Laura, who's gonna join us here in a sec. Mike in West Palm Beach, Florida. What you got for us?
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Buck Sexton
Hi, guys. I know that you guys believe there's no such thing as coincidence and also that the Democrats are very crafty in what they do. The more I've been reading in the newspapers, online, whatever it may be, all this preoccupation now with due process, free speech, et cetera, I'm of the view that all these recent cases are the prelude to the big finale, which is before we can deport all of the other illegals, the other 10 million, we're going to need to have 10 million trials because everybody will be viewed as entitled to due process. Wanted to get your thoughts on that.
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Clay Travis
Look, I think that there's zero doubt that the deportation process is going to be incredibly challenging and they are trying to put up as many roadblocks as possible and that there is no single president who can solve the issue. And I mean, you need multiple terms. We talked about this beforehand. I said it was going to be very hard to deport a huge percentage of people and that's proving true. So I think this is why you have to stack multiple administrations together in order to fix this problem.
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Buck Sexton
Yes, you have to start to turn this around. It's a bit like dealing with the debt. Trump is not going to make the debt disappear. It's not going to happen. But if you can make it start to go in the other direction, then there's hope because you can continue that and the American people can vote for that continuation. Same thing with deportations. You can continue it and it can become a manageable problem instead of what it is or has been. Clay, which is totally unmanageable.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back to Clay and Buck everybody. We are very pleased to welcome onto the program Dr. Laura Schlesinger who recently celebrated 50 years on the radio. She is a best selling author. She's also auctioning off some handmade items to support Children of fallen patriots. Go to drlaura.com for more of that. Again, Dr.laura.com Dr. Laura, I just say it's an honor to speak to you because I've been hearing your voice ever since I got married because my wife is a longtime Dr. Laura listener. Let me tell you, I am very thankful. I am very thankful for it.
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Maria Konnikova
Well, then she's your girlfriend.
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Buck Sexton
She's the best. She's fantastic. You know, I come home and we got married and I came home and there's dinner on the table and I say, honey, I want to go to the shooting range with the guy. She says, you need guy time. You know all these rules and lessons. And then I found this book, the Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands, which is dog eared and underlined and everything else. I tell you, I'm, I got married a little later in life. Dr. Laura. So I got married around 40. I think it was 41. And my wife is absolutely love my life. She's absolutely fantastic. We're about to have a baby in, in a couple of weeks. So everything is going. I really wanted to have you on in part just to thank you because, and I, this comes from my, my wife as well. I think you give so many women such incredibly important and powerful advice for them to have great, meaningful lives as, as wives, as mothers is. So I'm always, whenever Kerry starts saying Dr. Laura says, I start nodding my head. Yup, that's, that's great. She sent in my wife's so I just got to tell you this. It's the truth. My wife sent in a question for you and Clay's wife Laura has a question too. She says, Hi, Dr. Laura. I'm a longtime listener and read the Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands. I also took the online course. Your wisdom has not only made me the wife I am today, but also led me to find an incredible husband who adores me. Fact check. True. In a couple of weeks, we will be welcoming our first child. We're so thrilled to grow our family. But what is your advice for ensuring our solid and healthy marriage stays intact after the first baby comes? Thank you for all you do.
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Maria Konnikova
You don't stop having your hands all over each other. That means when you're walking around, that means when one of you takes a shower, maybe we could, you know, save on water. We could both be in the shower. It's really the physicality and the silliness. Everybody thinks it's got to be marital therapy and heavy duty conversations which you and I both know. Guys don't enjoy. So the more physical you are with each other and the more cute you are with each other, that's really all you need.
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Buck Sexton
I love it.
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Clay Travis
That's really good advice. Now, I don't even know what my wife has sent in, but there is audio. She went and used the app and then she needed more space. So she said, just give context.
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Buck Sexton
Clay, how long, how long have you been married? Tell Dr. Laura how I have been.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, so I've been married. Oh, man, 21 years will be August. So I've been married over 20 years. Now we have three boys, 17, 14 and 10 year old. And here is what my wife Laura wanted to ask you.
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Maria Konnikova
Listen, Clay and I are parents of boys, and thus far, I think we have weathered adolescence fairly well. However, some of our friends who have daughters, their experiences, the way they talk about it, sound very different. In fact, some of them say raising daughters through adolescence is a complete nightmare. I had a friend this morning tell me that she feels she's coming home to a bag of snakes every day when she comes home to her adolescent daughters, which is funny but harsh. So in general, do you have some great advice for parents going through adolescence with their children? Obviously, the children are going through adolescence. And do you have different advice for parents of girls weathering adolescence versus parents of boys weathering adolescence? Thank you. I thought you were just going to have me on for a few minutes. That's going to take me about half an hour to get through. Let me try to bring it down. Number one, whether it's a boy or a girl, that it's a tight family that does things together, that is sweet with each other, that the father spends time with the daughter, the father spends time with the son, the mother spends time. And the family is always together for dinner, if they have to go do sports things or what have you. That, you know, that's a very important part of the family. People keep divvying it up. Yeah. There are differences in how you raise girls from boys. And I'd have to come back another time to go through that. But the first and foremost thing, just like I spoke about husbands and wives and the physical and the cuteness, the I was with a family and I thought and I talked about them on my air that this was the best family I had seen in decades. Anytime anybody got something, may I. Would you send me? Could I have. Yes, please. Thank you. Everybody was so concerned and polite to one another. That is not something that families do. You have two career families. You have all kinds of other stuff. Going on in the house. And it's not a family. It's mother and father and kids. But when it's a family, when people are always saying please and thank you and show concern for each other and discipline in kind ways, with understanding and compassion, you'd be surprised how it minimizes how crazy it gets. And also take your kids out of public school.
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Buck Sexton
Wow, Dr. Laura, we're definitely going to have to have you back. And I'm really looking forward to all the questions and comments we're going to get from the audience about you coming on and just beginning this arc of. Of wisdom. And like I said, as. As a husband and a very happy husband who does completely adore his wife. And I know, you know, it's. It's so important that I think women get a lot of the messaging and men. And men, but that we both get a lot of the messaging that you're putting out there. And I wanted you to address something that's more just sort of general for the country right now. You know, we talk here about politics and national security and education, all these different things, but the importance of family and marriage is central. Should be central. Maybe should be is a better word these days. You know, there's a story just out today, and it says, and the headline is, american Women are Giving up on Marriage. And one of the lines from it is, american women have never been this resigned to staying single. They are responding to major demographic shifts, including huge and growing gender gaps in economic and education attainment and beliefs about what a family should look like. What is going on and how do we fix it?
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Maria Konnikova
Not enough fathers in the home, raising sons to be men of honor and courage and principle. And that's basically, again, the women. The women have gone through the feminist thing where men are the evil empire, and. And all this negativity toward masculinity, it's all toxic. I think it's wonderful. Give me a guy with a cowboy hat and boots and I pay attention, because there's a sense that there's a strength there. And women like to feel protected. That's probably the number one thing women don't admit. They want to feel protected. And that's why they like those silly books where there's this ripped guy on the COVID and she's being carried, you know, into safety. Why do they read those things at such large amounts? Because ultimately, as smart and incompetent as we can be, we want to be protected. And men have not been brought up to be that anymore.
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Clay Travis
Are you more. You've Been doing this for 50 years and buck just laid out. Marriage is becoming less common. A lot of men are not present in homes. Unfortunately, the overall birth rate in many Western civilizations is collapsing. Are you more or less optimistic about the future of the family unit today than when you started? How would you analyze the scope of relationship that you've seen over 50 years?
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Maria Konnikova
Oh, no, I'm. I was more optimistic then that I am now because there have been so many forces. We have like one or two generations now, I think are lost. These are young people who are not being brought up that you finish and you aim to be and do things and you make a family and you raise kids and you have communities. And that was how I was brought up, and it was all this optimism. Now you have throngs of kids who have no idea where they can go and what they can be. And so they get involved in all of these cliques, like non binary. And, you know, I belong now to a group of people who are equally lost and don't have an identity and don't have a direction and don't have a sense of self other than I can belong to this community. It's like what we used to look at with groupies with rock stars. This is what's happening. So I'm worried. Be honest with you, I'm worried. But the one little piece of optimism I have is I'm still here. People are still calling. Somebody wants the help to pull it back together again and make life meaningful and something you can feel comfortable and safe with and productive and loving and receive all of that. So as long as I still get that response, I keep my optimism up.
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Clay Travis
Doctor, that's a great line. You just laid out some of the challenges. How much do you think it has to do with kids getting phones too young? What advice would you give parents out there? My wife asked a question about adolescents, but what advice would you give to parents about social media and about what they allow their kids to be exposed to, particularly on the Internet?
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Maria Konnikova
Well, everybody tells me I'm insane to think, you know, you can push up against a tsunami. But it takes just everybody lining up. I tell people that they're irresponsible parents if they give smartphones to their kids. Any minor child, period. Get them a flip phone that takes calls. That's it. No texting, no Internet. And instead of spending one's time with screens, how about we actually have families that do stuff together? I mean, when my kid was talk about a screen, though, we would watch Law and Order as a whole. Family. And then we would sit here and we would go, I think he did it. No, I think she did it. And so it was all of this thinking through using pieces of information. And I just read today that our children are really suffering the inability to have fine motor skills because they're not playing with crayons, they're not playing with scissors. They're just sitting there like that. And so we're actually losing physicality. I mean, is that not shocking?
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Buck Sexton
It's. It's amazing. I mean, think about all the influences that are on kids these days and what they're being told and how I think a lot of them are being set up for. For misery. I mean, Dr. Laura, you know, you have. I agree, the. The metrics these days and the metrics for young women in particular in terms of happiness, self described happiness is terrifying. In terms of how bad it is. How do we start? Oh, yeah, turn I again, it's. You're. You're going up against a tsunami. But how do we start to turn that around?
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Maria Konnikova
Well, I just. It popped into my head as you were asking me the question, look at all the very intelligent and very attractive women that are now in positions of power in our government. I am so enthralled with that. And I think that's wonderful for young women to have something to aspire to, keep my act clean. No more shacking up, using drugs, this and that and the other thing. I want to be like that lady who's now running the. Whatever it is. So having role models like that, you know, I have people calling who say, I was in a car seat in the back of my parents car listening to you, and now I have kids and I'm using what I've learned. So anytime you can be a positive influence, do it.
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Buck Sexton
My wife makes fun of me because I just always sit there in the car when she turns you on, I'm just like, Dr. Laura's right. So I'm just telling you, I was like, we have to have Dr. Laura. I'm like, Dr. Laura's right. And Carrie looks at me, she goes, oh, I know, Clay, go ahead.
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Clay Travis
Last question for you. And we appreciate your time. And you're certainly a radio legend. You've been so influential for so long. When you I the modern era. Like I was reading the other day, the number of successful women that are choosing to go find a sperm donor to have a child with instead of an actual man is staggering to me. What kind of world. Okay. I wanted to get your take on this.
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Maria Konnikova
Makes me angry because Kids need a dad and I just say to these women, oh, that's not. Well, I have money and I can take care of. I don't care about that. You had a mommy and a daddy and I'm sure that meant something to you. Now you're going to rob a kid of a dad because it's convenient for you not to commit and give of yourself and be vulnerable to another human being and be invested in each other's lives beautifully. That's a real shame. That's a real shame. That is so selfish. It. Yeah, I don't like it.
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Buck Sexton
Dr. Laura, we gotta have, we gotta have you back because you know, for you to solve all problems of relationships and family and child rearing in about 10 minutes is asking a lot. But you did a remarkable job. Guys, there's so many books. I mean the Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands. I've actually got Carrie's very dog eared and underlined copy in my hand. Great book. And go to Dr.laura.com because she's doing some great charity work. To Dr. Laura, we'd love to have you back and thanks for being here.
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Maria Konnikova
I would love it. Thank you guys. And I love listening to you too.
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Clay Travis
Oh well, thank you so much.
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Buck Sexton
Thank you very much.
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Maria Konnikova
I like that.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Nate Silver
I'm Nate Silver.
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Maria Konnikova
And I'm Maria Konnikova. We're both journalists and professional poker players. And on our podcast Risky Business, we talk about taking risks in everything from poker to politics.
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Nate Silver
And we talk about betting. From betting on elections to betting on your favorite basketball team, we've learned a lot about taking risks through our own research and sometimes even our own bets. And we share what we've learned with you.
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Maria Konnikova
Are you still doing sports betting? I had no idea that you'd wagered over a million dollars for your research.
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Nate Silver
I bet almost the entirety of the 2022, 23 NBA season, all the regular season and about half the playoffs. And I learned that, I mean, it's probably what I should have expected, but I learned that it's pretty hard. I went on a huge heater at the start of the NBA season where it was up like 70,000 bucks. I'm like, man, I'm really good at the sports betting stuff. But then, but then things change.
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Maria Konnikova
Now that March Madness is upon us. We're talking bracket strategies and a whole lot more. Join us and listen to Risky business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis, buck sexton show. Dr. Laura was awesome. A lot of great reaction rolling in from her. She's a 50 year radio legend, much like Rush was a 30 plus year radio legend. Many of you grew up listening to her as well as to him. And I think we could have talked to her for a long time, Buck, like that. She could have kept taking questions and I think we would have gotten a lot based on what I'm seeing rolling in from you guys as well.
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Buck Sexton
And I think it's so important. I think a lot of people don't get, they don't get a basic framework. Like we're taught so many things about so much different stuff in our lives. How are you a good husband? How are you a good wife? What builds now? I know some people say, well, I didn't get instruction and I've been married 50 years and I'm so happy. Okay, fine. But the same way that learning about personal finance is just empowering, I think learning about healthy and productive personal relationships, I mean, you know, getting an understanding of it, not just going through the experiential side of it, is really important with family and child rearing, you know, I'm reading books now about how to be a great dad and the expectant father and all this stuff. I think, I think it is a really good thing to know. I know a lot of you have a tremendous amount of knowledge from your lives about this but you know, does your 20 year old. I think the 20 year olds are getting terrible information about dating now. I think the 25 and 35 year olds are getting terrible information about how to find a husband or a wife.
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Clay Travis
I also think that this ties in with boys and men in crisis. We have a lot of people who aren't getting raised by men. Somebody said on the show recently, or I think I heard it on our show, but that we basically have tried to turn women into men and men into women. That we've created sort of this amorphous unisex which frequently makes both men and women unhappy. But the data reflects buck that the overall young men suffer by far the most from being in single parent households. Young women tend to not be bad, probably because they're often being raised by women and they have a strong female role model. But as good as a mom is, it's very hard to do both sides of the raising. And men frankly are not lifting up enough. And I think that's one reason we've seen masculinity in crisis. We'll talk more about this dive into the third hour next. Thanks for hanging with us.
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Buck Sexton
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Maria Konnikova
And I'm Maria Konnikova. On our podcast Risky Business, we talk everything from politics to poker and from.
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Nate Silver
Betting on elections to betting on your favorite basketball team. Sports bettors need a bit more street smarts, because there's this whole second side to sports betting of how do you actually, how do you get your money down? Good if people think that you're a winning better. And now that March Madness is upon us, we're talking bracket strategies, odds, how to maybe actually win your office pool. You can listen to Risky businesses on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.