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O U n D okay, second hour Clay and Buck. Let's look at immigration, shall we? Let's jump into the biggest immigration story today. A federal judge has ordered ordered President Trump, well, the Department of Justice to release Kilmar Abrego Garcia from ice. Immigration and Customs Enforcement from ICE custody. This is Judge Paula Zinnis. X I N I S I guess. Yeah. So he is supposed to be released immediately. T monitor this one for me. Let me know if in fact he does get released immediately. I have a, I have a feeling the administration is going to say, not sure that's how this is going to go. We'll see. But this has been quite a story and the Democrats are going to continue to push very hard on this. Let's just take a little, a little trip down memory lane, shall we? This guy, Abrego Garcia, he is the alleged MS.13 gang member who had an order of deportation against him at some point, wasn't deported, fighting his deportation, all this stuff. And on March 15th of this year, he was sent from the US to El Salvador where he was detained in the Seacot, the Center for Terrorism Confinement. And the Supreme Court weighed in on this one, and I believe it was nine. Oh, and they said, look, you guys, you can't just remove this guy to El Salvador. And this removal to El Salvador was illegal. So the US Then brought him back in. The Trump administration brought him back in. They, there's now all this legal wrangling about is he a member of Ms. 13, is he not? Abrego Garcia says he is not a member of Ms. 13. Now that matters because that gang has been designated a foreign terrorist organization. So from a legal perspective, the Trump administration seeks to treat, or now does treat at some, in some ways, Ms. 13, like Al Qaeda. And this guy is now supposed to be released. There was one point at which, at which the Trump administration was trying to remove him to Liberia, Uganda, Ghana or Eswatini. I gotta tell you, we're getting really deep into geography knowledge here with that one. That's one of these really tiny countries in Africa. There's some very, very small countries in Africa that are not well known. And yeah, he was not removed to those countries, but that was what was happening. Here's what's at issue with all of this. There has been. There's going to be the continued legal fighting over this and is there a detainee order. Our whole immigration system has been turned into a massive scam and a third world invasion of this country as a result of the misleading of the American people, the taking advantage of the American people and has been largely bipartisan. Democrats have been complete liars and frauds. On this top to bottom, a hundred, 100% of Democrats are terrible on immigration and half of Republicans, I would say in the 21st century, roughly half of Republicans are, are pretty terrible on immigration. I think that would be fair. May. You know, in recent years, the numbers changed a lot because of Trump. But if you were to take this all the way back to, say, the year 2000, you take this back to the, the Bush era, Republicans have been bad, too. So this has been a huge, huge issue. And a little bit like where we are with the debt. And I'm not somebody who traffics in despair on this program. Quite the opposite, right? We talk about the problems. We also talk about the solutions. We look at what's gone wrong. We never forget what's going right. But the immigration situation is a bit like our. For our soon to be $40 trillion of debt. It is massive. It is affecting everything. And I don't know if we're going to be able to fix it. This is just the truth. We're going to try. I certainly am advocating for it. But you hear people like Stephen Miller, who knows this issue and is of sound mind on this issue at the absolute peak. I mean, he's like at the top of his game on immigration. This is cut 16. He's pointing out that this issue of immigration and more specifically legal immigration, it is messing up everything in this country. You cannot bring tens of millions. We don't know the number. I would guess, see, whatever I say, you're going to say, buck, how could you? It's more or it's less. Most of you would say, I think there are 20 to 30 million illegals in the country right now. 20 to 30 million. And I don't think that's even. I think that's like definitely 20, 25, and maybe it's 30, 35. It's a lot. It's a lot. Tens of millions, for sure. The number they were telling us, it's 11 million. Please. They let 10 million in under Biden and they're planning to never leave. So we know, we know we're in the 20s. I think we're in the 30s. Some of you are going to say, buck, we're in the 40s, maybe, but it's definitely 20s, 30s, millions that we're talking about here. And this is Stephen Miller on what a big issue it is. Place 16. We mask the impact of immigration. Every public policy issue we discuss, we talk about test scores. If you subtract immigration out of test scores, all of a sudden our test scores skyrocket. If you subtract immigration out of health care, all of a sudden we don't have nearly the size of the health care challenges our country faces. If you subtract immigration out of public safety, all of a sudden, we don't have violent crime in so many of our cities. Issue after issue, we talk about these things as if they just happen to us. The schools just suddenly fail. Violent crime just suddenly explodes. The deficit just suddenly skyrockets. These are a result of social policy choices that we made through immigration. It's all true. It's all true. Now, the way that this issue has been, and this is why the Abrego Garcia thing, isn't it fascinating? Democrats, aclu, these types. Oh, my gosh, Anything to keep Abrego Garcia in this country. This guy's an illegal. He's been accused of crimes. He's illegal. He should go. Whatever it is they wanted, whatever it is they have to do, they will do. The left, the Democrats will do to keep illegals in this country. They want to keep them all. If they could keep them all, they would keep them all. Occasionally. And they'll say, what about Obama and all this? Yeah. In order to fool just enough people to stay in power, Democrats will occasionally go through a period of, oh, you know, you're right, this is a problem. Oh, maybe we should. And what Obama did was change the definition of a deportation such that people who were caught and turned away immediately at the border, they counted as a deportation. So they were. They were juicing the numbers there, but they were also doing that so they could create the political momentum with the Gang of Eight bill, with the, with the gang, the Senate Gang of Eight. They were trying to create the political momentum for a mass amnesty, which is. And by the way, that's game over. Do you know that the Reagan amnesty, the worst thing that Reagan did when he was president was the amnesty they did under Eisenhower, the deportation operation they ran, I think it was over a million. It was like 1.2, 1.3 million in one year, deported. And that was in 1950, something. So we've been here before, and the country at some points has said, you know what? This is crazy. You gotta go. You gotta go. Also note, people act like it's so, oh, you've been in America for a year or three years or whatever it may be, the notion of going back to the country you lived in your whole life until you snuck into this country. It's so horrible. It's so unthinkable. What does that mean? Well, actually, it's interesting. Trump is just saying stuff out loud that you're. You're not supposed to say. You're not allowed to say, but we say it now. There are countries that people want to live in and countries that are crappy. This is true. There are cultures that produce countries where people live in security, prosperity, able to achieve some degree of, of, you know, of relative happiness. And, and there are countries where that's just not, not going on at all, where people live a far more Hobbesian, you know, life is brutish, nasty and short Hobbesian existence. And Somalia is at very, very high on that list of, of what Hobbes would say. That's a rough place. Here is Trump saying, you know, we should be bringing in more people from countries that produce extremely law abiding, extremely high productivity, aligned with our values, immigrants. That's what we should be doing. This is cut 15. This is what Trump says. We had a meeting and I say, why is it we only take people from whole countries, right? Why can't we have some people from Norway, Sweden? Just a few. Let us have a few from, from Denmark. Do you mind sending us a few people? Send us some nice people. Do you mind? But we always take people from Somalia. Places that are a disaster, right? Filthy, dirty, disgusting, ridden with crime. The only thing they're good at is going after ships. You can tell Trump, not a fan of Somalia. He's definitely seen Black Hawk Down a few times. Not a fan of Somalia. And a lot of Somalis aren't either. You know, we talk about the Somali population here in Minneapolis. There's a tremendous amount of displacement of Somalis into Kenya, which is right next door, which is still a country with a lot of. Tremendous amount of crime, unfortunately, a lot of problems, but functional country. Notice though that it's. You're not supposed to say we want people from happy, good countries. And you say, well, hold on, I thought our immigration system. We were, we have been told all this time that we're taking the next founder of Google and we're. This is, you know, immigration doing the jobs Americans won't do. And we're a nation of immigrants. You have hear all this propaganda, all this stuff all the time. It's supposed, the system is supposed to benefit the people. Here is the system is our immigration system in the 21st century benefiting those who are already here on a aggregate, you know, net. Net on an aggregate basis. Or have we turned into a immigration from third world countries welfare ward that we constantly are lied to? And because most of the very poor countries in the world, this starts to get into other conversations about immigration and about the nation state. Most of the Very poor countries in the world are non white countries. And so when you start to look at countries that you don't necessarily want to take a lot of immigrants from because they're going to have again, this is just objective stuff. It's not about not liking the way someone looks. It's not about judging someone because of their skin color. It's. We're making policies to benefit Americans. If you're taking people from countries with high levels of crime and, or terrorism, low level of education, do not speak English and have no, you know, cultural tie or affinity to America other than we're really rich here and they get to be safe and get free stuff. And then of course, as soon as possible, start voting in the directions that will undermine all of that, right? Start voting for socialism, start voting for Islamism, start voting for whatever. We are told that that's not what's happening, but that has been happening and people are allowed to notice that and be upset about it. And the American people are allowed to say this bait and switch cannot happen anymore. Where you say it is to our benefit, but really it is part of some global DEI crusade of we need to have the most non white immigration possible. And look, there are a lot, there are plenty of countries that are non white countries that are wonderful places. People are doing great. You know, I know everyone always is attacking Japan, for example, for its lack of, you know, replacement. They gotta have more kids. That's true. But it's an amazing. Taiwan, which I just came back from, is an amazing country, phenomenal in so many ways. Wonderful people, incredibly smart, incredibly civilized. And you know, there are many, many others. There are a lot of great countries all around the world. Our immigration system is absolutely not set up to prioritize those people. We say the reality of immigration is kind of the way if you had like a, you know, a Gavin Newsom voting California, you know, wine swilling lib, you know, with the chardonnay glass and oh, let's, let's take as many people from war torn fill in the blank as possible because that'll make me feel, I'm going to live in Beverly Hills, but it'll make me feel good about myself to say that we're going to take as many people from. What do they call it in Team America? Dirk Durka, Durkistan, Right. To take as many people from whatever country is some jihadist hellhole of the moment or whatever going through some famine or civil war supposed to have a very small percentage of asylum seekers. Look what happened. These millions and millions of people came in. They're all say they're here for asylum. They're not here for asylum. They're here for the spoil system. Can we get enough of them to actually go back to their home countries that America can be saved? This is the question. This is where we are and certainly where the Trump administration is on this. But I'm Is it too late? We'll see. What do you think happens if a Democrat wins the next election? They're going to open the floodgates again. Of course. Of course they are. If Trump can't get this done with the House and the Senate, who's going to. Who's going to reverse the flood? We need to talk about this. We have to be honest about this. All right. This holiday season, think food. 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