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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Second hour of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. Just to give you a little bit of a roadmap because we are stacked today with a lot of news to talk about, but also a lot of excellent guests will be joining us here in the mix 1:30, Isabel Brown of the Daily Wire. She had this crazy idea, she said, deeply controversial. Hey, have families have babies. The ladies of the View very upset with this Clay, I will note, particularly upset that anyone would dare to have a child while Trump is president. It's just too horrible. It's just too terrible out there. How could you have a baby while Donald Trump is making mean jokes about Rosie o'? Donnell? It's, it's a reality, folks. People are still having babies even though Trump. I'm hoping we're gonna have, I'm hoping to have more babies while Trump is president. I'm gonna try to try to run up the scoreboard here. So yes, there's that. And we also have Representative Chip Roy of Texas will be with us. His career Criminal Accountability Act. I really want to talk to him about that. In addition, Clay, to the DHS shutdown situation because the crime thing is just, it's just too much now. We have too much data. We've lived through this reality. Three strikes laws are a good idea. Mandatory minimums for certain crimes are a good idea. The soft on crime stuff across the board has really just been a massive failure that's resulted in a lot of suffering for innocent people and victims.
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Buck Sexton
Can I give a positive here too? As we are starting off hour number two, the Dow as tensions in Iran are seen by the market as declining substantially is now up nearly a thousand points, roughly 2% on the Dow S P500. For those of you out there with S P500 index funds, it's up about 2 and a half percent, a huge rally. The Russell 2000 is a larger index of stocks also surging. So I do think this is somewhat interesting, Buck, MSNBC and cnn. Every time the stock market goes down under Trump, they put the ticker in the corner right of the screen so that all of their audience is aware of the fact that stock market prices are down. 0 mention of 1 of the biggest rallies in recent memory. I mean, a thousand point increase in the Dow is a crazy amount to be popping. Zero mention of that fact. So just FYI out there, the markets seem quite optimistic that, that things are easing in Iran and that, that that things are moving more towards a resolution in that respect.
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Clay Travis
And then there is. So we're talking about the crime thing there with Chip Roy. We'll get into that because I just think you've seen how this, how this works around the country. You enforce the law, you back law enforcement. Yeah, of course, you hold law enforcement to account. But that's not the problem. The problem is not a lack of accountability for law enforcement. The problem is lack of accountability for criminals. And that's the, that's the case in cities all over America. It's obvious the data is clear. Something needs to be done about it. We'll discuss that. But on the TSA DHS delay side, looks like things are better. We got our team checking in on there's some websites where you can go and look at the various delays. But here is so guys, pull that up for me. Give me the most recent. But here is NBC News report at the Houston airport from this morning. And this is cut one. Here's what it sounds like over there.
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NBC News Reporter
We're talking about a drastic change here at Houston's Bush Intercontinental where last week we saw lines up to four hours. And now you can see passengers virtually walking right up to an agent or an officer and being able to give them their ID and go through that screening process. And we've been looking at airports throughout the day. Baltimore, New York, Philadelphia, all wait times of under a half hour. I will tell you, travelers here and I'm sure across the country certainly relieved.
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Clay Travis
I still think, Clay, that this is one of the most clear examples we have of very important bifurcation, a very, very important difference in the Democrats and the Republicans today. And that is the Democrats create problems, Republicans solve them or at Least try to. And in this case, looks like solved.
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Buck Sexton
Yes. And again, I think Linda from Arizona, who I hope let her, let us know. Linda, we, we mailed you the autographed Trump hat. It came to my house and then we mailed it out to Linda. If she could reach out and let us know she got that, that would be great. But the TSA decision was brilliant. Look, and Buck, there are reports out there and I flagged them. I meant to mention it that basically the, the ICE agents were effectively running the TSA checkpoints and were doing so in a really expeditious fashion. At LaGuardia Airport, for instance, I saw our friend Will Kane tweet out that he was certain he was going to miss his flight. But the ICE agents were shepherding everybody through and basically checking IDs and, and, and helping to ensure that you got through. And I got to tell you, I mean I, right now, who do you trust more to be able to help you with security? I sorted the tsa. To me, it's ice. I saw where they saved a life. You see the one year old started to choke and I think it was in a New York airport and an ICE agent managed to, to take care of it. I saw ICE agents passing out bottles of water holding places in line for people with young families. I saw an ICE agent passing out lollipops to little kids. I actually think this worked quite well. By the way. Update. It looks like JFK is basically the only airport in America that has substantial wait times right now. Our staff doing checks on TSA screening everywhere else, by and large Newark, which is always a little bit of a mess around 30 minutes. I think that's probably the math. Buck. 30 minutes would be frustrating, but you're okay with it. I think anything over 30 minutes is frustrating. And look, ideally you get through in five or 10 minutes, ideally. But the fact if you can keep it 30 minutes or less, most places, most of the time, I think there is a general positivity associated with that.
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Clay Travis
I think that this shows that the out of the box thinking the administration engages in can have clear, clear benefit to the American people. And I think that's great. Now I wanted to make, because you know we're going to have her on, so I don't want to make her sit there while we go through this. I wanted to queue up a little bit of this for our friend Isabel Brown from the Daily Wire because it is such an important conversation in our culture right now in America. There have been a lot of people and I can Only speak to this as somebody who grew up in New York City, right? So for some of you, I mean, you, Clay, you got married on the younger side. Probably standard for Nashville and for your age range there. But I know so many people in New York now. The age keeps going up. It's true in California, I think, as well, of when people are getting married. And also this notion that everyone should delay children. Delay, delay, delay, delay having kids. I wish I had met my wife when I was younger. I was just waiting to find the right person to have as a life partner and to. To be my wife and to build a family with, because I only. I wanted it to be a one and done. I want to find the right person. And it just took me longer. And I think I've been pretty open about that. A lot of people, though, I think Clay, have this plan set up in their minds. I'm going to wait until I have all the money lined up that I need to have the life for my family that I need. I also want to have a lot of years. This is men and women, by the way, of being able to go to, you know, go to Tulum or Sao Padre island or, you know, whatever and party it up and have fun and delay and delay and delay getting married and having kids as long as I can. And I think that there's also this sense that, don't worry, this is true for a lot of people. The science is there. If I'm having trouble, I can just sort of turn. It's like a light switch. I'm 39 and I'm going to turn on. I'm going to turn on the kid switch. It doesn't work that way. Biologically. It doesn't work that way. It gets harder as you get older. This is a fact. I think a lot of women have been lied to about this, by the way. A lot of women have been told, freeze your eggs. It's, you know, freeze your eggs and wait. And now I'm not even getting into people's feelings about IVF or anything else. I'm just saying this is the strategy that has been sold to women by corporate America, Google and these different companies, Clay, have one of their big, big enticements for females in the workforce is, oh, you know, we'll. We'll will pay for like five rounds of IVF and we'll. You freeze your eggs and do all this stuff.
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Buck Sexton
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
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Clay Travis
Do as much work as you can be in that office, get that VP title, have kids when you're 40 that's not a good plan in general. For some people, it works out fine. Everyone is allowed their own life path. But if you want to have a family, delaying family is something that can be challenging. Okay, then, you know, this is just the reality of it. This is the scientific reality of it. And Isabel Brown was at CPAC and she was just saying to other young people assembled there, I just think it's such an important message. And again, this is a do as I say, not as I do thing. I waited until I was 40 to get married and I get all that. Clay did it.
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Buck Sexton
Clay did it.
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Clay Travis
The old fashioned. What were you, 25, 26? You were a whippersnapper?
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Buck Sexton
25. I got married at 25.
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Clay Travis
If I got married at 25 in New York City, I would have been truly the youngest person I know in New York of other people that I grew up with. Married. Just give you a sense of how different it is. No one even thought about it till their 30s. Like it wasn't even a conversation. So that's a cultural difference between New York and Tennessee. Here's Isabel Brown at CPAC last week. Play 2.
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Isabel Brown
If you're not encouraging your children to grow up and have the courage to get married and have kids, more kids than they can afford, before they think they're ready, it is high time to start. It is these choices like deleting our dating apps and quitting birth control pills and saying I do at the altar that ultimately trickle down into the political policies that we will see save our country.
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Clay Travis
So many young women, I think Clay benefit, particularly young women benefit from hearing this message and the corporate leftist, female industrial complex, including the view, which we'll get to. They are furious when people say this stuff.
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Buck Sexton
Well, I think also what it brings home is there is a biological difference that is substantial and they don't want to acknowledge a difference between men and women. This is sort of the essence of the Democrat party. There's a very big difference between what a 35 or 40 year old man can do and what a 35 or 40 year old woman can do. When it comes to basic biology, men have the luxury of, of being able to be kind of, frankly, morons about what biological clocks actually represent. Because if you're a guy and you wake up suddenly at 45 years old and you haven't gotten married and you've been single and you suddenly think, you know what? I'd really like to be a dad, you can do it. And yes. Are there some challenges that come with being an older dad? 100%. And you know, keeping up with kids, your own sperm counts, to be frank, are more challenging the older you get. But it's possible. Women, it is. And this. Look, I know that sometimes this people get angry about this, but I do think that some women, not all, some women get to 45 or 50, they have a mediocre middle management job that they have put their entire life into their career and they look around and say, I was sold a bill of goods. I was told life fulfillment came through career. And by the way, some men have this same realization. But it isn't that much fun to be a VP of something. I'm going to be honest with you all at 52 years old and be single and have no kids. I mean, there isn't for most people a substantial life fulfillment there. And so I think people look around and they say, I did what I was supposed to do, I dominated. I was a girl boss. And then they're unwilling to acknowledge that their choices were frankly made them sad. And so they pour themselves into politics, which becomes a vessel for life empowerment to them that otherwise would go into their family or in past days, buck would go into their faith where you're working in a church and you're trying to build a better.
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Clay Travis
And this is how they end up looking really sad and pudgy at a no Kings protest. Just the way it goes. It's a shame, but that's what happens.
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Buck Sexton
And so we'll talk with Elizabeth Brown about this because she's saying, hey, go get married young, have a bunch of kids. This is the other part. Sometimes I really do believe this, particularly for men. I know it's true. Having kids doesn't make your career worse. It gives you purpose in life. And taking care of a family and providing for them for men, makes you way more reliable and makes you way better off a human. I really think this is true for men for sure.
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Clay Travis
Because you have to take into account more than just what you feel like or what you want if you're going to be a good father and a good husband. It can't just be. I'm just letting it ride because I feel like it.
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Buck Sexton
You have to make family relies on your production. You got to get up out of bed. You can't sit around and play video games all day. You can't waste away your time if you're driven, like most men are, to be a provider. Children for many men clarifies their purpose in life and allows them to be more successful. And I think women candidly are more successful when they're moms too. Meaning more successful in creating a family and a legacy. Because you have something that matters more than just your individual, you know, excitement or frivolity on a day to day basis now.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. Clay. Sorry I just jumped in, but I'm so excited that I'm going to let you react to this. The View has some advice for women out there. I think it's fair to say if you want to be shrill, unhappy and bitter in your years beyond 40 listen to the view. Here is what they had to say about our friend Isabel Brown, who'll be joining us shortly. Her advice to get married and have kids to young women. Here's what they say about this. Play it.
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The View Representative
I think it's just really reckless to be suggesting that people should have children when you now know in this country there's this affordability crisis. And for a two person household, a married household, you need over $400,000 for child care. Over $400,000. Most people don't make over $400,000. So she's advocating for people to be born into poverty. People not being able to feed those children, people not being able to educate those children, and people not being able to house those children at the same time. When this government is cutting all of the services that would allow people to have families over the lifetime of the child or what?
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Clay Travis
No, no.
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The View Representative
It's a year. It's an annual income expense exceeding $400,000 to afford child care.
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Buck Sexton
Okay.
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Clay Travis
She's.
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Buck Sexton
I would, I would just say this and, and I thought about this when I had kids because it's nerve wracking. I don't know if you had this, this thought, Buck, but I tend to intellectualize everything. And this is where history comes in. If you are a man and a woman and you are having a baby in today's world, as your wife is pregnant and as you are going through the process, if you're nervous, the average American today, even if you are not super wealthy, as most people are not, your children have advantages and opportunities that dwarf everything that the vast majority of young children born throughout the course of the past 250 years of America have had, starting with Buck. The fact that they're actually going to live and make it to adulthood almost overwhelmingly. I'm just fired up about this. Isabelle Brown is going to join us next. The view's been teeing off on her. We'll let her tee off on them when she comes back. But if you're out there right now and in your home, you're worried about the fact that you don't have a great roof, well, guess what? Erie home can make a tremendous difference for you. All they have to do is get an opportunity to come check out your home and they can save you up to $1200 on a brand new roof that will last 50 years. Think about that. A 50 year transferable warranty. Get a free inspection from ErieHome.com Clay today and you can get up to $1200 off any installation work that offer of $1200 valid for new roof installations. Only valid on new roofing installations. Again check them out. E r I e home.com clay eriehome.com clay get hooked up today with a value of saving up to twelve hundred dollars. That's eeriehome.com Clay welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show we bring in the Views Most hated villain Isabel Brown, who had the audacity to suggest that people get married and have kids. And true to form, I believe you have a young child in the background. But that child is sleeping I think I've been told right now. So if she starts to scream everything is fine. But you are living as you have preached. Buck was pointing out. I got married when I was 25. Isabel and I had my first we had our first kid when I was 28. He is now going off to college this coming fall and it's best decision that I ever made. We're fortunate to have three and I got started somewhat young for a lot of men at least who go to school for a long time. What is your experience been like and what is the reaction to the View attacking you been like? Because I just think this is amazing that you got attacked for telling people get married and have kids is a way to be happy.
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Isabel Brown
Yeah, you know Clay, I'll say first, I love that the Views most hated woman. I might have to make that my Instagram bio moving forward. That's pretty fun. And in true working mom fashion, as expected based on what happened yesterday, we're in a crazy busy schedule. So thank you guys for all bearing with me. Clearly I'm on the road between a million different news hits today. My daughter is speaking in the background. But truly, like you said, this has been the greatest honor of my lifetime. I had a baby at 28 as well. She'll be one at the end of next month. And though I am still a working mom and working full time, my relationship with my husband and my relationship with my daughter will be infinitely more important to me than my paycheck than at any other time in my life, especially right now. So I had the audacity to share that on stage at CPAC last week as part of a question I was asked on a larger panel about the importance of family. And never in my wildest dreams as a conservative podcaster did I expect that would be what the View is attempting to cancel me over. Yet here we are, where someone like Whoopi Goldberg has the audacity to actually look in the camera and say if you tell women to have as many children as they want to, then I'm sending you back to the past, insinuating that that is not a valid choice and you should not want children if you are a member of Generation Z in this country. I, for one, am really grateful because the demons are getting pretty loud. But it's so obvious to me which side is for American families and for actual women's empowerment in 2026.
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Clay Travis
You know, Isabella, I have to tell you, I think that the message that you're putting out there, and you're a great messenger for it, and I really mean this. I hope that you can get out and speak just to as many young women, especially who are on that, you know, starting off that career track, you know, they want to make partner at Goldman or they want to be, you know, a partner at Cravath or whatever. You know, whatever. Those are big names in New York City. You know, they want to be the law firm in D.C. or the big law firm in Atlanta, or they want to be the marketing firm in Chicago. And there's so much in the culture that tells them, wait, wait, wait. Grind it out like a guy in your 20s in terms of the hours. And I got to tell you. Cause I'm on the other side of this. You know, you're so young that I can ask your age. What are you? You're like, you're. You're not even 30 yet, are you? How old are you?
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Isabel Brown
I am 28.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, you're 28.
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Buck Sexton
So you're.
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Clay Travis
You're a youngin. I mean, you're, you're, you're a young blood. I'm. I'm 44. Clay is like 70. I don't even know how old Clay is. Like, Clay is like, he's like. He's like Gandalf the Wizard on this show. And I sit here and I say, I have so many peers, women my age, that I grew up with, particularly in New York, and they turned around at 40, and maybe they had the big career, maybe they didn't. But they turned around and said, okay, time to find a guy and get married. Because they deprioritized it and it didn't happen. And they're so unhappy about it. And they tell me this. And for the View not to be honest with you with its audience about this, I think is just really, just really disgraceful.
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Isabel Brown
Disgraceful is a perfect word for it. And honestly, what's even more disturbing to me is that every single woman sitting around that table yesterday, except for one, has children and every one of them, except for one has either been married in the past or is currently married. The one who isn't is engaged to be married. So it's good enough for them, and they're able to make this working mom lifestyle work, but it's not good enough for general people who apparently can't afford to spend $400,000 on child care every year. Talk about just blatant propaganda and lies. And what's really sad to me, too, beyond all of this clan buck, is that as a working mom in particular, I realize that there are sacrifices that have to be made everywhere in order to make that type of lifestyle work. My mom, as a working mom, always famously said, you can have it all, but not at the same time. And you need a great team behind you to make that happen. But how unbelievably pathetic, with the bigotry of low expectations to tell women that it is not possible to have a thriving career and to have children. Look at our second lady of the United States. Look at the White House press secretary. Look at partners in law firms and news anchors and entrepreneurs and investment bankers all over this country who are figuring out a way to manage both, but more importantly, to prioritize their family and share that with their children in the process. If you are a young woman listening to this today, thinking you cannot have a career and a family at the same time time, you absolutely can. And stop letting Democrats tell you that's not possible.
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Buck Sexton
Well, and look, thank you for coming on with us, and we've talked about this with you before. To me, having a baby is actually the most important thing that a couple can do, because this is one where I don't think it gets any attention. Everybody wants to talk about catastrophes and how awful things can be. Many of the greatest Western civilizations in the world are having their population collapse. Japan, Italy, many parts of the United States. Because if women don't have an average of 2.1 children, then the population collapses in a hurry. I was looking at the data on South Korea the other day. I think in South Korea, it's less than one child. So while you're focusing on the United States, this is actually a Western civilization, highly educated, major issue that is occurring across the world right now. We used to talk about being too much population. There's a legitimate argument that the population of the world has already peaked and has begun to collapse. And, you know, that's. That doesn't seem ideal to me.
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Isabel Brown
No, not ideal. In fact, the ladies of the View screamed about how we have 8 billion people on the planet. What's a few more? Why? Why do we need to have a few more? In fact, 55% of the countries on the face of this planet planet that make up 2/3 of the world's population are below replacement rate, meaning they're not having 2.1 children per family. We are not in an overpopulation crisis. We are in a severely under population crisis. And it's time for us all to pitch in because we love humanity and we want it to continue to thrive.
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Buck Sexton
One other thing here, I think it's important. Isabel. Cost. People throughout history have managed to raise children. You mentioned the View said it cost $400,000 or whatever the heck they said. If Buck and I were just talking about this, I think that having children actually makes parents make more rational choices and put themselves in better positions than they would be if they didn't have children. Because your stakes as a provider go up so much more significantly than if you're just a single person. In other words, I think career success often follows parenthood as opposed to the reverse.
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Isabel Brown
Absolutely correct. We're covering this at length in my full, unadulterated response to the View from my episode of my podcast. But it turns out a new study that came out last year actually found my daughter wants to weigh in, that your wealth throughout your lifetime goes up by 23% if you have children because you are making those smarter decisions in investing for your future and saving for retirement, making sure you're providing for your family. This lie that all of a sudden, a, the most important thing is your bank account is insane, but B, that all of a sudden you're going to be severely impoverished and living in poverty for the rest of your life if you have a child is truly just another arm of the propaganda that they must peddle in order to convince young women to abandon the idea of a family.
- [33:54]
Clay Travis
Do you feel like we're speaking Isabel Brown of the Daily Wire got to give some shout outs. Go check out her podcast because she's got kids to feed. But if we're speaking to Isabel Brown about what's going on here in this conversation that she's taken on just by telling women the truth and the women of the View taking umbrage, really. And I think that's the proper word, umbrage. Some of it is just their Trump derangement. Of course. They're like, how could you have kids in a world where Donald Trump is president? It's like, I don't know. To not have kids because Trump is president is certifiably. Insane and should probably institutionalize, if that's your point of view. But beyond that, I feel like the culture is starting to change. There's a shift now, Isabelle, where it's not considered anti women or anti female or at least you can't be shouted down the same way for saying things like, one, being a mom. For most moms that I've ever talked to, and I know a lot of moms, I'm married to one, and I had one, that being a mom is the job that they revere the most of all jobs. And number two, that, sure, if you want to pursue a career, if you have a certain area of excellence that you want to pursue in the workplace, that's fine. There's nothing wrong with being a mom and taking a break from that and going back to it later, that I just feel like, you know, I had so many women in my class at Amherst. I'll just speak to my personal experience. I'll speak from the I perspective who went into investment banking and clay, I remember thinking at the time, that's a horrible idea because all the guys who are doing it are going to crash out. They're not going to last more than a few years for the most part. They're going to try to transition to other areas of finance. But they were essentially mortgaging their 20s to make money in abundance so that they could then be a provider for a family later on. Women don't have to make these same choices. They don't have to compete in areas like this if they don't want to. And I just feel like they're being pushed into this in a lot of capacity. Again, they should have the freedom to do whatever they want, work wise. I get that. But I feel like the culture has shifted and it's. They're telling women, you can be a mom, it's okay. You can be a mom young and it's okay. You can pick a career later, and it's okay.
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Caller Wendy from Long Island
Mm.
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Isabel Brown
You're absolutely right. And I do think it also matters, if I can jump in here for a second to say there is a gender divide here that matters very, very deeply. Recently, Pew Research found that for young men under 35, their number one and number two political priorities are to get married and to have children. But for women under 35, whether you voted for Donald Trump or Kamala Harris in the last major election, that's their second to last priority, politically speaking, at the personal level and at the country level, it's because of this propaganda that's being directly targeted to young women in particular and why it matters for female voices and these beautiful feminine voices with influence, people like Brett Cooper and Riley Gaines and Ali Beth Stuckey promoting the joy of motherhood to this generation. That's how we continue to continue shifting that culture. The same way you just mentioned. But, Buck, the trend of all of this crazy stuff we see on the View and the likes of other network shows.
- [36:55]
Buck Sexton
I want to let you talk to young women on this in particular, but Buck and I were just talking about it before you came on. There is a biological difference between men and women when it comes to having children, particularly if women out there are thinking, hey, I'd like to have two, or I'd like to have three, which is, I think, why population is often collapsing. Because if women wait until they're 35 to have their first kid, the math on having multiple kids becomes very difficult. If men wait until they're 35 to have their first kid and marry younger, we don't have the same biological constraints. Does part of this tie in to trying to convince women that men and women are exactly equal biologically? I. I see this as connected with, like, men being able to play women's sports and all these things. There's a big difference between the sexes, and women are being sold a bill of goods. Men don't have to think about babies, frankly, as early as women do.
- [37:48]
Isabel Brown
Yeah, well, Clay, that's so oppressive of you. How dare you.
- [37:52]
Buck Sexton
Yes, I know.
- [37:53]
Isabel Brown
Remotely is a biological difference between men and women. The women of the View actually pointed this out yesterday on the show that we're all one group of women. And I'm realizing now they're admitting that you do need a uterus in order to qualify as a woman. It's impossible to be a woman with a penis. So glad we arrived here in 2026. All of that said, there's certainly a biological component to all of this. And I don't find it coincidental that as you've seen the decline of the American family from the numbers perspective and the decline in our fertility rate, you're also watching 1 in 7 married couples today trying to conceive, facing what they're calling unexplained infertility, because this is waiting so much later in life to when you're facing all kinds of issues that's also being exacerbated by our food supply in the pharmaceutical industry. But the reason the fertility rate is the lowest it's been in 100 years in America today, in 2026, is largely because women are Just choosing not to have kids, that is a severe problem. It's something that you don't have the opportunity to go back in time and reverse and needs to be messaged to women while they're young and that ability is before them.
- [38:57]
Clay Travis
Women should have kids in their 20s. Biologically, that's just the reality. Yeah. Isn't it strange that to say that? It's almost like you can't say anymore. Or at least they try to make you not say that women do not, in fact have penises. You're also not allowed to say that biologically, it's best for women. They have a highest chance of success, the highest chance of a successful pregnancy. All those things in their 20s, in their 30s, yes, too. But it starts to go down in your 40s. You're talking about really? It's called the geriatric pregnancy. Over 35. It's high risk for a reason. That's what it is called. So anyway, you got to keep speaking the truth on this, Isabel. We appreciate you. Go to the Daily Wireless, Isabel Brown. And also just note the little baby in the background.
- [39:38]
Isabel Brown
Perfect.
- [39:39]
Clay Travis
Perfect for this conversation. I got to say, it's like you couldn't.
- [39:43]
Isabel Brown
Yeah. You know, the women of the View may all be moms, but this is what real working mom life looks like. It's not in a multimillion dollar TV stud, and yet it's the most beautiful thing I've ever done. It's worth pursuing if you're listening to this.
- [39:55]
Buck Sexton
Yeah.
- [39:55]
Clay Travis
Even the ones on the View who are moms, I doubt they've ever changed the diaper themselves. I think the staff does that for them. But that's another conversation. Thanks so much, Isabel. Great to talk to you. You know, here in Florida, land of the free, I love it. The sun can do a number on your plants, though. I love that. Beautiful sunshine, Big, beautiful sunshine. But it can scorch your plants if you don't have the right kind of plants. This is a problem. Carrie and I have dealt with this. I'm going to tell you, out on our balconies, we have plants and they look like they've been lit on fire sometimes because we had the wrong plants. But this is where fast growing trees comes in. Okay. Fast growing trees is awesome. Not just because of the variety, so many different plants, trees, all kinds of stuff. But also the expertise because you can buy really cool looking stuff. But if it's not right for your area, whether you're in Michigan or Miami, if it's not right for your area, you're not going to have a good result. And having plants, having stuff in your yard, around your house, plant life that is beautiful, that you can just, you can enjoy. It really just brightens up your day and I think it's critical. So Carrie set up a whole call with fast growing trees where they walked us through. This is what we need. And guess what? We've got all this amazing stuff, this beautiful bamboo. It is on the way right now. Fast growing trees. And they've got an alive and thrive guarantee with everything you order. That's how well they've nurtured your new trees and plants. We'll have trees growing this spring from fast growing trees in on our balconies, which we have like eight of them at my house or something. So they're really, really important. You should be doing the same for your yard, for whatever you've got fenced in around your house. Indoor, outdoor, fast growing trees dot com. Use my name Buck as your promo code to get 20% off your first order. If you know a lot about trees and plants or you want to know a lot, fast growing trees is what you need. Fast growing trees dot com. Use my name Buck for 20 off news you can count on and some laughs too. Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton.
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Buck Sexton
Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back in play Travis Buck Sexton show Wendy on Long island weighing in. Our thanks to Isabel Brown. A lot of reactions pouring into that. Wendy, what you got for us?
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Caller Wendy from Long Island
Whenever it says on your tombstone, beloved employee of Colgate Palmolive, and you could even look back to the Bible and you could see how important it was to women to have kids. So.
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Clay Travis
Hello.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, we're here.
- [42:23]
Caller Wendy from Long Island
Oh, yes, I was going to say, I'm not saying that women should go to those extremes to have kids, but I think that men and women were not meant to be alone. And having a family is very rewarding. And I think that people should consider that.
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Clay Travis
I believe a very intelligent voice once said, go forth and multiply.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, look, I think what Isabel is talking about is so incredibly important. I think you're starting to see it. Buck, we didn't ask Isabelle this, but one of the major issues is if women now, and this is the reality, are not getting married on average until after the age of 40, 30. The ability to have multiple children when you are getting married after the age of 30 is a very significant biological challenge. And so a lot of this is just when people get married.
- [43:11]
Clay Travis
And also you went through this three times. But when my baby smiles. It's my favorite thing I think I've ever seen in my life.