Buck Sexton (2:04)
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I mentioned the first hour and Obama appointed judge in Boston, no surprise has said Trump can't stand stop visas of foreign students going to Harvard. I have been following this issue for a long time. I think it is this goes in the category of why are we doing dumb things that no other country that is a smart country would do. And Trump comes along and asks that question and does something about it. And I will make that case to you now. We had a caller and I appreciate the caller, you know, bringing his perspective to this in Savannah, which he probably knows is a town that I, I still, I just love that town. I love it so much that people I know who live there are like, you know, I don't know if you'd love it as much if you lived here. I'm like, yes, I would. I love Savannah, Georgia. But big fan, big fan of the town or of the city. And here's what I would say when we're talking about policy, there are always going to be anecdotes, individuals, situations where on a human level, on just a personal compassion level, you're going to say, oh, but what about, you know, what about this person? And like, this person's okay, I am not impugning any individual or, you know, anyone who has come into the country necessarily as a foreign student. I have friends who are foreign students. Like, I get it. But we've got a problem. And the problem is not high school exchange students who come here and decide they love, you know, Seinfeld, Coca Cola and Six Flags Great Adventure. Does Six Flags Great Adventure still exist? It does, right? Does it? I don't, does it? I don't even know. I just remember as a kid seeing the commercials all the time. I was never really a theme park guy. It wasn't really my, not really my thing. I don't know. Clay's at a theme park, I think today, so we'll get his review when he comes back from it. But on the foreign students issue, let me explain to you why I think this matters so much, because there are many levels to this. First of all, on a just, purely America first level, these are institutions that are great because of, and their greatness is in much more question now than it used to be. But these brands were built in this country, by this country. I feel a little bit the way about this, the way I do with Silicon Valley and the, the hubris and the just unbelievable disdain that some of those companies show the country. That is the only reason they had the ability to do what they have done. There's this stuff isn't happening in Europe, everybody. And the stuff that's happening in China, a lot of it is actually stolen from us. That's a whole other part of the conversation we're about to get into. But this is, and what I, what I mean by that is not, this isn't Obama. You know, you didn't build that. It's. It is because of our free market, which is backed. Well, you know, we just had Memorial Day. We only have our freedom and our free markets because Americans died for it for centuries. Ok? That's why we have the thing we have, because there were our fellow Americans who were willing to give their lives to protect this very special thing that is America, which is for all of its flaws. And it doesn't have that. I mean, the flaws are overblown by the left, of course, but for whatever flaws, it has the greatest, wealthiest and most powerful country in the history of known existence. That's quite a thing to say, but that is true. So there's something very special and unique about America that is worth protecting because it also protects whatever freedoms exist in the rest of the world, whatever. That changes a lot if China becomes the hegemon. Trust me, people in Edinburgh and Rio de Janeiro, they're going to feel it and not in a good way. So this is what we have to remember. There are bigger issues and bigger forces at work here. And if America first is to be taken seriously, Americans should get overwhelming preference and priority at American universities. Overwhelming preference and priority at America. Start with that. I know some of these numbers. Do you want to know what the, the number of foreign students is at, at mit, which is one of the most revered, you know, math and science universities in the country. Maybe the most sort of famous and revered, that Caltech. There's a few of them. 30%. 30% foreign. Really? Harvard, 30% foreign. This is outrageous. I mean, as far as I'm concerned, this is crazy. These places are only able to exist and charge the exorbitant, exorbitant tuitions that they currently do because they are backstopped. The loans are backstopped by the federal government. They have all these programs. They talk about, when was the last. You know what would be interesting? When was the last time that one of these universities came out and did some, like, invented something really important based on the federal dollars or. We're hearing a lot of this. What about the research programs? Okay, Harvard, in the last 10 years, what's come out of your research programs that has benefited the American people? Like, well, what. Incredible. By the way, maybe there are good answers to that. I just want to hear them. But I don't want to hear, oh, we did the study on critical race theory. And, you know, and that's what they usually do. What is this money actually going to. That's a. I think that's a fair question in and of itself. But if you're going to take tax dollars, which means you and me, we are on the hook for this, this is taxpayer money. And then you're going to take a third of your students from countries all over the world. So that's the broader America first component of this, which is we should have an America first university system. Of course. And you want to say, well, Buck, what does that mean? And to work hard before is like, but what about the people who come here and they like, you know, they like America. And I'm not saying, I'm not discounting that. I'm not, I'm not disparaging that point of view. I'm just saying, okay, yeah, there should be. We should, as a country. There should be a cap on this. Maybe it's 10%, maybe it's 5%. And I mean, really just the best of the best. What these schools currently do is they jack up tuition. So now it's like basically 70 grand at most of these private. I think it's, you know, high 60s or something a year. So it's a quarter of a million dollars to send your kid to, you know, Johns Hopkins or something. I think Johns Hopkins gets the most money of any university, I might add, from the federal government. You know, a lot of that probably goes toward really good medical stuff. And I understand that. But these places should all be telling us, hey, here's what we're doing. Now is the time to make your case. Here's what. Because I think there's a lot of stuff going on at Harvard with those dollars that you'd say, what? You know, why is. Why is this happening? Who cares about this isn't benefiting the American people or in any way worthy expenditure of the US Government? So that's the America first means Americans get priorities in American universities and colleges, full stop. And priority is not 30%. I'm sorry. And you know, some of you might even say it should be if they can't fill the slots with Americans. You know, that would be, that's probably a true America first. But, you know, I'm a reasonable guy, I'm a reasonable fellow. So maybe we go, you know, 10%, 5%, 30% is too much. Full stop. This is insane. Okay? This should not be happening. And it is. And it's the, at these elite universities in particular. And it's because they can also, they charge the foreign students. They don't get, I don't think they get financial aid. I forget all this stuff works now. But so they charge, they pull pay full freight. So they pay the outrageous tuitions. And then you have, you know, middle class families, particularly if they're middle class white families, they have to deal with the reverse discrimination or just discrimination against their sons and daughters to get into these places. And I might add Asians too. Asians and whites, reverse discrimination. That's what the Supreme Court found. This is, you know, we shouldn't feel uncomfortable talking about this. That is what has happened. It has been. It was harder for me to get into Amherst and if I was Asian American, it would have been harder for me to get into Amherst then. That was 20 years ago. More than that now I'm old than it was for a black or a Latino student. That's just a fact. Just a fact. I had to have different grades, different boards, you know, sats. That's the truth. And that play that out tens of millions of times across the country over the last couple of decades. That's what these schools have done. And that's. So that's just on the America first principle part of this. The other part of this is, guys, we can't be trained. This is where you get more into China. I'm less concerned about having, you know, foreign students here from France. You know, maybe I want to bum a galoise and talk about baguettes. I'm less worried about France. China's a problem for us. Notice I'm not singling out Japan. I, I have, I have less of an issue with Japanese university students coming here. I don't have any issue. I mean, you know, I like Japanese people. They're great. Japan is an ally and we don't suffer. Now, every country, I'm not doing the babe in the woods routine here. Like every country is actually an espionage threat to the United States. Something, you know, when you're in the CIA, we get a little too. Some of our very close allies have been involved in very egregious espionage against the United States in living memory. So I get it. But we are grading the threats here and Japan. Way different ball game for those. Let's say that 10% of students that. I would say, OK, you can be foreign. Way, way different ballgame than dealing with students from China. I'm sorry. China is a direct competitor and a threat to the future of a world with America as its leader, which is good for the whole world. China as the world leader is bad for the world. China as a modern state was founded by possibly the worst person in history, Mao Zedong. I really mean that. Way worse numbers than Stalin or Hitler. Way worse numbers. Not even close in terms of people killed and killed in the worst imaginable ways in huge numbers. And I think that Mao may be the worst person who has ever lived. My friend Michael Malice argued with me recently. He said, what about Pol Pot? Higher percentage killed in Cambodia. I'm like, yeah, but the numbers are way smaller. So, you know, you're talking about the most evil people in all of human history, and the founder of modern China is one of the most evil people to have ever lived. And that is just the truth. I don't think I'm gonna get a Beijing visa any. I've already been to China, so I don't think they're giving me a visa anytime soon. I'm not worried about it. But you say, well, Buck, why do you care so much? That's just me. Why does the Trump administration care about these foreign students that want to go to places like Harvard or MIT and, well, when you look at the things that you can study at MIT and you look at the things like the MIT Lincoln Laboratory, key areas, air, missile and maritime defense technology, developing systems to protect against various threats from the air, sea, missiles, biotechnology and human systems. You know, kind of like what they would call gain of. I'm not saying they're doing gain of function at mit, but, you know, stuff like virus research, I mean, stuff like high level biotech, I mean, that's, that's going on there. You know, ISR systems, space systems. These are fields of study that the government is paying for research to be done at a place like mit. And we're inviting foreign students to. I know they'd say, oh, but they're not cleared for some of these. Oh, yeah, I'm sure the, I'm sure the security protocols at these universities, which are full of lunatic communists anyway, and you know, the administrative staff and the faculty, I'm sure they're really tight on all this stuff. And there's no. Why do you think the Chinese love sending their university students here so much? There's people who have known about these national security threats for years have been trying to ring the alarm bell, but this is a big problem. We can't even begin to keep up with all the penetration risks from the Chinese Communist Party on our campus. And that's not even taken into account. I hadn't even gotten into all the anti Semitism. I even got into the Middle east funds going into all these schools and how that's shaping policy. But America first, that means the interests of American students, and that means the national security and economic interests, current and future of the American polity. That has to be taken into account by these universities or they lose federal funding. It's the right move. They should be able to lose. I mean, this is not going to be a fight. But foreigners entering the country or not is the executive branch. The executive branch has a lot of discretion in this. And if we think that too many Chinese students are espionage threats and risks to American universities, guess what? The Trump administration should be able to say no. So this is a. This is, like I said, a very big deal. 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