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I mentioned the first hour and Obama appointed judge in Boston, no surprise has said Trump can't stand stop visas of foreign students going to Harvard. I have been following this issue for a long time. I think it is this goes in the category of why are we doing dumb things that no other country that is a smart country would do. And Trump comes along and asks that question and does something about it. And I will make that case to you now. We had a caller and I appreciate the caller, you know, bringing his perspective to this in Savannah, which he probably knows is a town that I, I still, I just love that town. I love it so much that people I know who live there are like, you know, I don't know if you'd love it as much if you lived here. I'm like, yes, I would. I love Savannah, Georgia. But big fan, big fan of the town or of the city. And here's what I would say when we're talking about policy, there are always going to be anecdotes, individuals, situations where on a human level, on just a personal compassion level, you're going to say, oh, but what about, you know, what about this person? And like, this person's okay, I am not impugning any individual or, you know, anyone who has come into the country necessarily as a foreign student. I have friends who are foreign students. Like, I get it. But we've got a problem. And the problem is not high school exchange students who come here and decide they love, you know, Seinfeld, Coca Cola and Six Flags Great Adventure. Does Six Flags Great Adventure still exist? It does, right? Does it? I don't, does it? I don't even know. I just remember as a kid seeing the commercials all the time. I was never really a theme park guy. It wasn't really my, not really my thing. I don't know. Clay's at a theme park, I think today, so we'll get his review when he comes back from it. But on the foreign students issue, let me explain to you why I think this matters so much, because there are many levels to this. First of all, on a just, purely America first level, these are institutions that are great because of, and their greatness is in much more question now than it used to be. But these brands were built in this country, by this country. I feel a little bit the way about this, the way I do with Silicon Valley and the, the hubris and the just unbelievable disdain that some of those companies show the country. That is the only reason they had the ability to do what they have done. There's this stuff isn't happening in Europe, everybody. And the stuff that's happening in China, a lot of it is actually stolen from us. That's a whole other part of the conversation we're about to get into. But this is, and what I, what I mean by that is not, this isn't Obama. You know, you didn't build that. It's. It is because of our free market, which is backed. Well, you know, we just had Memorial Day. We only have our freedom and our free markets because Americans died for it for centuries. Ok? That's why we have the thing we have, because there were our fellow Americans who were willing to give their lives to protect this very special thing that is America, which is for all of its flaws. And it doesn't have that. I mean, the flaws are overblown by the left, of course, but for whatever flaws, it has the greatest, wealthiest and most powerful country in the history of known existence. That's quite a thing to say, but that is true. So there's something very special and unique about America that is worth protecting because it also protects whatever freedoms exist in the rest of the world, whatever. That changes a lot if China becomes the hegemon. Trust me, people in Edinburgh and Rio de Janeiro, they're going to feel it and not in a good way. So this is what we have to remember. There are bigger issues and bigger forces at work here. And if America first is to be taken seriously, Americans should get overwhelming preference and priority at American universities. Overwhelming preference and priority at America. Start with that. I know some of these numbers. Do you want to know what the, the number of foreign students is at, at mit, which is one of the most revered, you know, math and science universities in the country. Maybe the most sort of famous and revered, that Caltech. There's a few of them. 30%. 30% foreign. Really? Harvard, 30% foreign. This is outrageous. I mean, as far as I'm concerned, this is crazy. These places are only able to exist and charge the exorbitant, exorbitant tuitions that they currently do because they are backstopped. The loans are backstopped by the federal government. They have all these programs. They talk about, when was the last. You know what would be interesting? When was the last time that one of these universities came out and did some, like, invented something really important based on the federal dollars or. We're hearing a lot of this. What about the research programs? Okay, Harvard, in the last 10 years, what's come out of your research programs that has benefited the American people? Like, well, what. Incredible. By the way, maybe there are good answers to that. I just want to hear them. But I don't want to hear, oh, we did the study on critical race theory. And, you know, and that's what they usually do. What is this money actually going to. That's a. I think that's a fair question in and of itself. But if you're going to take tax dollars, which means you and me, we are on the hook for this, this is taxpayer money. And then you're going to take a third of your students from countries all over the world. So that's the broader America first component of this, which is we should have an America first university system. Of course. And you want to say, well, Buck, what does that mean? And to work hard before is like, but what about the people who come here and they like, you know, they like America. And I'm not saying, I'm not discounting that. I'm not, I'm not disparaging that point of view. I'm just saying, okay, yeah, there should be. We should, as a country. There should be a cap on this. Maybe it's 10%, maybe it's 5%. And I mean, really just the best of the best. What these schools currently do is they jack up tuition. So now it's like basically 70 grand at most of these private. I think it's, you know, high 60s or something a year. So it's a quarter of a million dollars to send your kid to, you know, Johns Hopkins or something. I think Johns Hopkins gets the most money of any university, I might add, from the federal government. You know, a lot of that probably goes toward really good medical stuff. And I understand that. But these places should all be telling us, hey, here's what we're doing. Now is the time to make your case. Here's what. Because I think there's a lot of stuff going on at Harvard with those dollars that you'd say, what? You know, why is. Why is this happening? Who cares about this isn't benefiting the American people or in any way worthy expenditure of the US Government? So that's the America first means Americans get priorities in American universities and colleges, full stop. And priority is not 30%. I'm sorry. And you know, some of you might even say it should be if they can't fill the slots with Americans. You know, that would be, that's probably a true America first. But, you know, I'm a reasonable guy, I'm a reasonable fellow. So maybe we go, you know, 10%, 5%, 30% is too much. Full stop. This is insane. Okay? This should not be happening. And it is. And it's the, at these elite universities in particular. And it's because they can also, they charge the foreign students. They don't get, I don't think they get financial aid. I forget all this stuff works now. But so they charge, they pull pay full freight. So they pay the outrageous tuitions. And then you have, you know, middle class families, particularly if they're middle class white families, they have to deal with the reverse discrimination or just discrimination against their sons and daughters to get into these places. And I might add Asians too. Asians and whites, reverse discrimination. That's what the Supreme Court found. This is, you know, we shouldn't feel uncomfortable talking about this. That is what has happened. It has been. It was harder for me to get into Amherst and if I was Asian American, it would have been harder for me to get into Amherst then. That was 20 years ago. More than that now I'm old than it was for a black or a Latino student. That's just a fact. Just a fact. I had to have different grades, different boards, you know, sats. That's the truth. And that play that out tens of millions of times across the country over the last couple of decades. That's what these schools have done. And that's. So that's just on the America first principle part of this. The other part of this is, guys, we can't be trained. This is where you get more into China. I'm less concerned about having, you know, foreign students here from France. You know, maybe I want to bum a galoise and talk about baguettes. I'm less worried about France. China's a problem for us. Notice I'm not singling out Japan. I, I have, I have less of an issue with Japanese university students coming here. I don't have any issue. I mean, you know, I like Japanese people. They're great. Japan is an ally and we don't suffer. Now, every country, I'm not doing the babe in the woods routine here. Like every country is actually an espionage threat to the United States. Something, you know, when you're in the CIA, we get a little too. Some of our very close allies have been involved in very egregious espionage against the United States in living memory. So I get it. But we are grading the threats here and Japan. Way different ball game for those. Let's say that 10% of students that. I would say, OK, you can be foreign. Way, way different ballgame than dealing with students from China. I'm sorry. China is a direct competitor and a threat to the future of a world with America as its leader, which is good for the whole world. China as the world leader is bad for the world. China as a modern state was founded by possibly the worst person in history, Mao Zedong. I really mean that. Way worse numbers than Stalin or Hitler. Way worse numbers. Not even close in terms of people killed and killed in the worst imaginable ways in huge numbers. And I think that Mao may be the worst person who has ever lived. My friend Michael Malice argued with me recently. He said, what about Pol Pot? Higher percentage killed in Cambodia. I'm like, yeah, but the numbers are way smaller. So, you know, you're talking about the most evil people in all of human history, and the founder of modern China is one of the most evil people to have ever lived. And that is just the truth. I don't think I'm gonna get a Beijing visa any. I've already been to China, so I don't think they're giving me a visa anytime soon. I'm not worried about it. But you say, well, Buck, why do you care so much? That's just me. Why does the Trump administration care about these foreign students that want to go to places like Harvard or MIT and, well, when you look at the things that you can study at MIT and you look at the things like the MIT Lincoln Laboratory, key areas, air, missile and maritime defense technology, developing systems to protect against various threats from the air, sea, missiles, biotechnology and human systems. You know, kind of like what they would call gain of. I'm not saying they're doing gain of function at mit, but, you know, stuff like virus research, I mean, stuff like high level biotech, I mean, that's, that's going on there. You know, ISR systems, space systems. These are fields of study that the government is paying for research to be done at a place like mit. And we're inviting foreign students to. I know they'd say, oh, but they're not cleared for some of these. Oh, yeah, I'm sure the, I'm sure the security protocols at these universities, which are full of lunatic communists anyway, and you know, the administrative staff and the faculty, I'm sure they're really tight on all this stuff. And there's no. Why do you think the Chinese love sending their university students here so much? There's people who have known about these national security threats for years have been trying to ring the alarm bell, but this is a big problem. We can't even begin to keep up with all the penetration risks from the Chinese Communist Party on our campus. And that's not even taken into account. I hadn't even gotten into all the anti Semitism. I even got into the Middle east funds going into all these schools and how that's shaping policy. But America first, that means the interests of American students, and that means the national security and economic interests, current and future of the American polity. That has to be taken into account by these universities or they lose federal funding. It's the right move. They should be able to lose. I mean, this is not going to be a fight. But foreigners entering the country or not is the executive branch. The executive branch has a lot of discretion in this. And if we think that too many Chinese students are espionage threats and risks to American universities, guess what? The Trump administration should be able to say no. So this is a. This is, like I said, a very big deal. 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So what are they saying over at Harvard about this? Harvard? You know, I went to college in Boston. You're supposed to not know, but you know, right? I went to college in Boston. All right? So my best friends, some of my best friends went to Harvard. My, my. My roommate when I was the CIA, because I didn't make any money, so I had roommates. My roommate went to Harvard. And in fact, my two closest friends, or two of my closest friends, two of my closest friends was one guy who did not go to Harvard, but they were in the CIA. They were both. They were Harvard men. Harvard men. Well, what's the situation over at. So I just say that because I like to give Harvard the rough stuff. What's the situation over at the university right now? Here's the new president because the old one, as you remember, got fired because she was a plagiarist. Hmm. Here is Harvard President Alan garber. This is 17. Play it.
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Buck Sexton
No, not 30% of you. I disagree that was from commencement today at Harvard. I disagree. And if you want to keep that stuff up, you should lose all your federal funding. And there you go. Stop discriminating on the basis of race. Start prioritizing Americans. Stop teaching, you know, lunatic hatred of the country. That is the only reason you can exist as a university. And don't let thuggish morons intimidate, harass and threaten Jewish kids. Because they're Jewish. How about that? I don't think that's what's unreasonable in that. Why is this so hard for them? Oh, well, they're in my friends lies the, the rub, as they say. Rapid radios. You know, I love these things. Rapid radios makes modern day walkie talkies. It's not a kid's toy, but it is a really convenient way to stay in touch with your kids, especially teenagers who you might not want to have a cell phone yet. Just a push of a button, you can instantly connect with them whether they're at practice or hanging out with friends. 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We're getting deep into this stuff with Harvard, which I think is pretty interesting. But I wanted to switch gears here and think about how a lot of what we're seeing happening right now, you know, it's, it's one thing when you argue in politics and you can't have somebody who I think ends the argument one way or the other, you know, oh, would this, would this tax rate be better for growth or that tax rate? Well, you got to try one and if you try one, you haven't done the other. But sometimes you can actually just get an authoritative voice on something who proves that one side is correct or at least more correct than the other. And on this issue of Donald Trump being able to get hostages returned, get people back who have been held by Hamas, there's of course this effort from the Democrats to be like, well, that's not, it's not like Trump has just managed to do that really. Let's think this one through for a second. I've told you, Clay's told you, we've discussed many times here on the show that there is a clear preference among. You know what? Actually let me take a step back on this. It's important. They're trying to tell you that somehow Donald Trump, who just won with this huge mandate, the guy who took a bullet in the ear and said fight, fight, fight. The billionaire global brand building impresario and entrepreneur and political phenomenon who is scared of no 1 and is doing this because at this, I mean, I thought it was clear in the first term to be clear with all of you and I know you agree, but he's doing this cuz he loves the country and he thinks that he's the best man for this moment. Ok, is it reasonable to think that the enemies of the United States don't want that guy in charge? You know who they want in charge? The guy with dementia who's not really in charge. You know, what is the counter argument to that? What are they going to say now? Oh yeah, you know who really makes Putin shaking his, you know, shaking his little booties? Ron Klain. He can't, man. Ron. Once Ron Klain gets Putin on the phone, it's, it's lights out, it's game over. Well, as we know, the Democrats have had to admit that this is something that was happening. There's no arguing about this anymore. And it was because they were exposed, right? Never. They got caught. They didn't turn themselves in. The Democrats got caught on the COVID up of Biden's dementia, the debate. They got caught. They were trying to pull off the caper and they almost did. They almost did. So there is no, you know, there's like no belief that anybody should have that they're coming clean or they have some honesty here or something like that. So with that I go back to is Trump, was Trump better positioned to bring back Americans and Israelis, bring back hostages taken by Hamas than his predecessor? Of course we've made the argument that the answer is yes. But here you can, you can actually have one of the hostages tell you himself that it's not just a theory, it's not just. I make the case to you the reality of Hamas, because he heard them talking about it was, uh, oh, they really don't want this Trump guy to be in charge. Oh, we better be nice to the hostages. Now they might actually end up going home because we might get called out and the pressure might get turned up. And here is. This is freed hostage Omer Shem Tov, who was talking to CNN last night and explaining this part of the story I want you to hear. It's about a minute long. Play clip one.
Omer Shem Tov
Yes, it's him. He got me out. He got the ostriches out.
Buck Sexton
You talked politics with them?
Omer Shem Tov
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They wanted Kamala to be elected, but as soon as Donald Trump was elected, they understood that he wants to bring the ostriches back home. Yeah. So immediately the way they treated me changed. So if it's the amount of food, I could say this, that when Trump came into, became president. Yeah. The way they treated us changed. For me personally, this is what I.
Marie
Think, because they anticipated that a deal would come soon.
Omer Shem Tov
Yeah.
Buck Sexton
And that's when they started giving you more food.
Omer Shem Tov
Exactly. More food. Treated me better. You know, stop cursing me, stop spitting on me.
Buck Sexton
Trump becomes president, they stop cursing me. They stop spitting at me. They stop mistreating me. Think about what kind of powerful testimony this is about the reality of whether or not the American people on a whole range of fronts, but certainly as it pertains to our national security interests and our presence on the world stage. What could make this more clear than exactly what this now freed hostage was saying, which is the bad and Hamas are clearly the bad guys. And I commend the Israelis for taking as many Hamas fighters out as they can. This was their 9 11. The same way that America had a right to respond with all necessary and due force for their own security and their own preservation. The same way that we have that right. The Israelis have that right. And Hamas, you know, they had. Hamas has earned every dead Hamas fighter that they have on their hands now. They, I mean, they, they wanted this. Truly, they wanted this. As we know, they love. They love death more than we love life. This is what the jihadists always say, and unfortunately it's true, but doesn't mean we can't test out the theory. And the Hamas terrorists who had captured and were holding. Who holds hostages like this? What entity? All these people are like, oh, I'm so pro Palestinian. I saw these, one of these with this band, I think it was Imagine dragons are all holding up Palestinian flags. What do they think About Hamas. I mean, they're morons, obviously. Maybe they have some catchy songs. Fine. Why do all these people have to think they have to weigh in on international politics. They know nothing. They're just complete ignoramuses. They know absolutely nothing. In fact, if anything, they're useful idiots for some of the worst people in the world or on the world stage, like Hamas, because they approach this issue with just pure ignorance. They know nothing about what's really going on, what has gone on. But I just thought that that really hammered it home for everyone to hear a hostage say that. My actual treatment in captivity by those savages became markedly better the moment Trump won the, the day. It's clear that, oh, you know, Big Daddy Trump is coming back. No, no more Biden, you know, with the applesauce and the blanket on his knees and where am I? And you know, what is, what is that? It's. Don't ever forgive the Democrats for what they did on that. Don't ever think it's okay. Your neighbor who was so smug, so smug. I'm sure. Especially in 2020, especially in 2021. Oh, I voted Democrat. How could you have voted for Trump? How could you have done that really? How's that all look now? It's hard to even, hard to even compare Trump and Biden because it's comparing excellence with a non entity. It's really like comparing a, you know, if we're talking about combat, this is like comparing a Navy SEAL to somebody who didn't even show up for basic training. How do you compare these? There's no comparison. Biden wasn't even really. He's a puppet. And now they want to act like. This is why you'll notice I try to focus a lot here on the agenda. I try to talk about the good things that Trump is doing because we can do that. Because the opposition is a joke now. We will have to take them seriously again. They're going to try to take back the House. I get it. I'm not. This is not a forever thing. But we do have a window right now where it's pretty as clear sailing as you're going to find in American politics. Trump has right now, meaning, you know, we, we've, he has never been in a better position to get important things done. And they're doing the things. I was very frustrated in the first administration on a few things early on because, you know, they had some bad personnel choices. They had a lot of notice. Think about how many stories you heard from the, from first term of Trump that were about disloyalty in these agencies and institutions. The stories were. It was like, every day there's another story, oh, State Department in revolt. Like, I'm so upset. I work at the State Department and like, I cry at my desk because of Trump, but I'm like, I'm thwarting his agenda every day. You know, who's the guy? What was it? The. Anonymous. I'm. I'm stopping Trump by. By keeping, you know, signatures off his desk, and I'm important. And everyone goes, who are you? You bringing Trump? Is his Big Macs once a day or something? Like, well, who are you? Oh, I'm holding the Republic together. I wrote an op ed in the Washington Post. I don't even. I don't even remember that guy's name. Like that actually would have been a story if it was. You know, if the person writing that editorial was like, Ivanka or something. Right? I mean, if it was, somebody was close to Trump, had. I don't remember that guy's name. And now he's resistance. He's like, I'm a Republican, but all I do is entertain Democrats. What. It is such a. Such a pathetic and sad political and professional existence for these people who. Their hatred of Trump has turned them into something that is respected by neither side because they're not fully on board with everything the left says, or at least they'll pretend. But they only do things to hurt their own team. What a horrible place. I couldn't do it. You could offer me whatever, you know, it doesn't. I couldn't do it. I mean, actually couldn't just wake up and say, you know, well, I'm the real Republican and I hate Trump and everybody who supports Trump is wrong, because I. There is this. Now, that industry, I think, has dissipated a lot because the media outlets that were propping these people up are places like msnbc and their credibility is all in, you know, in smoldering as well. So, yeah, yeah, I think it's very interesting, very interesting to see how all of this plays out. And I thought that that statement from the. The person who had been taken hostage by Hamas, it's not, it's not, It's a. Not a revelation because, you know, and I know that that stuff playing out in a million different ways is true, but to have it confirmed is always interesting, and it's just more data that we were right about this. And like I said, the case about Trump v. Biden and what that means for our interests abroad and what that means for our allies In Israel and other allies, the case is very strong. Trump v. Biden without even this, this kind of really clear data. You know what I would consider sort of argument enders on some of these issues. And then when you add them in, you just go, what is, what is the other side even? What world are they living in? Oh yeah, Joe Biden. What, Tony Blinken. I mean, look, look at these people. Tony Blinken would be, you know, in over his head working in HR at some company that, you know, makes mufflers somewhere. Like what is, how are these people running global foreign policy? How are these people staring down our enemies and thinking it's a joke? The whole thing was absurd. And the person who's calling the shots over them, the person who's actually supposed to be the, you know, the grand strategic mind is not of right mind as a matter of fact, agreed on by both sides. Yeah, pretty important stuff. You know, most houses have gutters along the roof line. It's one sure way that rain falling on your roof gets channeled away from your home so you don't end up with water damage problems. That is, if your gutters aren't clogged and holding all that rainwater instead. That's what you want to avoid, clogged gutters. And that's why you want to rely on leaffilter and their team of experts right now. Save up to 30% off@leaffilter.com Clayand buck gutter clogs aren't just a nuisance. They can cause extensive water damage like foundation damage, water in your walls, and much more. 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Buck Sexton
No. No one was let go.
Joe Getty
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We're gonna get into a whole bunch of things here. Let's take Mary in. Florida wants to chat about foreign students. Go ahead, Mary.
Marie
Hi, Buck, it's Marie.
Buck Sexton
Oh, sorry.
Marie
I wanted to talk about. That's okay. I went to a university called Embry Riddle Aeronautical University, and it's called the Harvard of Disguise. And this is 30 years ago. We had a lot of foreign students on foreign visas that were there especially specifically for the engineering programs. And they would a lot of times contract or what do you call it, intern with the government for a little while and then they go home.
Buck Sexton
Sure. Okay. I'm going to. I'm going to jump ahead here a little bit. In our conversation, Marie, what percentage would you say of your class were foreign students?
Marie
Probably 70% at least.
Buck Sexton
Okay, that's way too high. How many were from China?
Marie
A very small quest.
Buck Sexton
How many were from China?
Marie
China? It was. It was the Middle east and Pakistan at that time.
Buck Sexton
Okay, again, if it's allied. Do you understand my basic premises here? I shouldn't say understand. Do you agree with my basic premises here? That, you know, because people calling in, like, oh, but I, you know, there was like a lovely student from, you know, Santiago, Chile, in my class. I'm like, yeah, I'm not saying no foreign students. I'm just saying it shouldn't be 30% of our top universities and we shouldn't have Chinese guys studying how to shoot down our missiles.
Marie
Well, just to make a point to your point, I'm agreeing with you 100%. When 911 happened, I believe it was four of the hijackers had tried to go to Embry Riddle 1, I believe had gotten enrolled and then got disenrolled for not going to class because they were trying to learn systems and how they wanted to learn it quick, right? Not go through the process. So then they went and hijacked planes on 911 and committed a terrorist act. So this is not conjecture. This is something that does go on, has gone on, and doesn't matter what the country is at any given time. It could be different, but it is a real thing that we do need to be concerned about. And then when I was in the military, I saw that in action sometimes overseas where you'd run into people that had gone to US universities and they were actually jihadis.
Buck Sexton
So, Marie, I just. Can I just throw a couple things out there for you? One, thank you for your service to A plus call. Three, you've said, I mean, you've nailed it. Anything else you want to add? I totally agree with you and I Think that you see exactly what I see.
Marie
That people need to stop leading with their heart and start looking at things objectively.
Buck Sexton
Because you know what it is? Marie. Marie, too. Can I just say. Sorry. You're just saying so many good things. You're getting me fired up. Because your call is excellent. Because you serve in the military. You understand. It's not. Oh, but you know, this guy from China or this. This guy who was like, studying. He came here from Tehran. He said he loves America. If he goes back with a knowledge set that lets him figure out how to shoot down our next stealth bomber, that's a big frigging problem. Right. Like this is. And so we have to have these safeguards. You understand that? Thank you for calling in. Totally agree with you. And yeah, that was excellent. I love when the callers totally nail it. Yeah. So like I was saying, because I just. I'm not. I'm not anti. For. I'm not anti foreigner. You know, I'm just. We got to. The same way. I'm not anti immigrant at all. I think immigrants are fantastic. And we just got to have a system. We got to agree on the point of the system, and we got to enforce that system. And I think our system in America should be be no university with more than 10% foreigners. And I'm open to 5%. Made in America means something to us. When you invest 700 billion annually in American companies and the 13 million workers and families they support, you're investing in the success of Main Street. That's money powering growth in manufacturing, tech, energy and innovation. And it starts with private equity backing American ambition. Learn how private equity keeps American businesses growing@investmentcouncil.org, paid for by the American Investment Council.
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Summary of "Hour 2 - Hostage Shows Receipts" from The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show Release Date: May 29, 2025
In the second hour of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve into pressing national security concerns related to foreign students in American universities and the efficacy of former President Donald Trump's administration in securing the release of hostages held by Hamas. The discussion is enriched by listener interactions and firsthand accounts, providing a comprehensive analysis of current political dynamics.
Buck Sexton initiates the conversation by scrutinizing the high percentage of foreign students, particularly from China, enrolled in prestigious American institutions. He emphasizes the potential national security risks associated with this demographic composition.
High Foreign Student Percentages: Buck highlights that elite universities like Harvard and MIT have approximately 30% foreign students. He argues that such high ratios may compromise national security, especially when a significant portion of these students come from countries perceived as adversarial to U.S. interests.
"Harvard, in the last 10 years, what's come out of your research programs that has benefited the American people? Like, well, what. Incredible. By the way, maybe there are good answers to that. I just want to hear them."
[05:30] Buck Sexton
Economic and Security Implications: Buck contends that excessive reliance on foreign students strains the American higher education system and diminishes opportunities for domestic students. He connects this issue to broader economic growth, asserting that prioritizing American students is essential for maintaining the country's leadership in critical fields.
"That is a fair question in and of itself. But if you're going to take tax dollars... Americans should get overwhelming preference and priority at American universities."
[08:15] Buck Sexton
The discussion gains depth through a call from Marie, who shares her experiences at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. Her insights corroborate Buck’s concerns about foreign student impacts on national security.
High Foreign Student Presence: Marie reveals that 70% of her class comprised foreign students, primarily from the Middle East and Pakistan. She recounts instances where individuals with extremist intentions exploited academic programs to infiltrate the U.S.
"When 911 happened, I believe it was four of the hijackers had tried to go to Embry Riddle...they were trying to learn systems and how they wanted to learn it quick, right?"
[43:09] Marie
Security Breaches: Marie underscores the tangible threats posed by permitting high numbers of foreign students without stringent vetting, highlighting that some individuals used their educational status to engage in terrorist activities.
"This is not conjecture. This is something that does go on, has gone on, and does not matter what the country is at any given time. It is a real thing that we do need to be concerned about."
[44:47] Marie
Buck acknowledges Marie's service and testament, reinforcing the necessity of his proposed reforms.
> *"Thank you for calling in. Totally agree with you... We have to have these safeguards."*
> **[45:02] Buck Sexton**
Transitioning from educational policies, Buck addresses the administration's efforts in resolving hostage crises, specifically focusing on recent hostages held by Hamas.
Testimony from a Freed Hostage: Buck introduces a clip from Omer Shem Tov, a recently freed hostage, who attributes his improved treatment and eventual release to Trump's leadership.
Omer Shem Tov: "Yes, it's him. He got me out. They wanted Kamala to be elected, but as soon as Donald Trump was elected, they understood that he wants to bring the ostriches back home."
[29:03] Omer Shem Tov
Analysis of Trump vs. Biden: Buck argues that Trump's assertive foreign policy stance created an environment conducive to securing hostage releases. He contrasts this with the perceived ineffectiveness of the Biden administration, underscoring Trump's ability to project strength and negotiate effectively.
"Trump becomes president, they stop cursing me. They stop spitting at me. Think about what kind of powerful testimony this is about the reality of whether or not the American people..."
[29:47] Buck Sexton
Critique of Current Administration: Buck criticizes Biden and his administration officials, suggesting their lack of strategic acumen hampers effective foreign policy implementation. He emphasizes the importance of strong leadership in safeguarding American interests abroad.
"Tony Blinken would be, you know, in over his head... How are these people running global foreign policy?"
[31:20] Buck Sexton
Buck wraps up the discussion by reiterating the need for policies that prioritize American interests, both in education and foreign affairs. He calls for reduced foreign student percentages in universities and commends Trump's administration for its efforts in national security and hostage negotiations.
> *"America first means Americans get priorities in American universities and colleges, full stop... This is a very big deal. And I'm very happy to see that Trump and his team are on it."*
> **[17:45] Buck Sexton**
Buck Sexton on Foreign Students:
"These are institutions that are great because of, and their greatness is in much more question now than it used to be."
[09:00] Buck Sexton
Listener Marie on Security Threats:
"They were trying to learn systems and how they wanted to learn it quick, right?"
[44:15] Marie
Omer Shem Tov on Trump's Impact:
"They wanted Kamala to be elected, but as soon as Donald Trump was elected, they understood that he wants to bring the ostriches back home."
[29:07] Omer Shem Tov
Buck Sexton on National Priorities:
"Make your case. Here's what we're doing. Now is the time to make your case. Here's what."
[10:20] Buck Sexton
In this episode, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton present a compelling argument for re-evaluating the role of foreign students in American higher education, linking it to broader national security concerns. Additionally, they highlight the perceived effectiveness of Trump's leadership in international negotiations, particularly concerning hostage crises. Through listener contributions and strategic analysis, the hosts advocate for policies that prioritize American interests and national security.