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Mary Kathryn Hamm
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Ice Cube
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Clay Travis
All right, second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now and we are joined by Howie Kurtz. He is the host of Media Buzz over on FOX News and how we appreciate you making the time for us. You've had Clay on and me on many times in the past. Great program you do there over at Fox. You're focused on all the news, but obviously the media angle in particular. Let's start with this one. Have you been surprised at how the Democrat aligned or I should say more Democrat favoring, however you want to put it, the CNN MSNBC industrial complex going after Trump on the crime thing, even though some of their own Democrat talking heads are saying this is not a winning issue for us.
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Buck Sexton
Guys stunned because there is this sort of knee jerk with reaction among media liberals that if it's Trump, it's a police state, he's an authoritarian. And yet, you know, numbers aside, we can argue about the numbers. I mean, people here are scared there's been a wave of carjackings. There was 16 carjackings in July alone. And that's scary stuff. I know people that it's happened to. And so you would think it'd be a welcoming of some extra firepower, FBI, National Guard and all of that. And instead a lot of folks on the left are using it as an opportunity to beat up on the president.
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Howard Kurtz
Are you? I mean, even by crazy anti Trump reflexive ideology, I was surprised when Trump said, hey, we're going to surge resources in Washington, D.C. i think it's hard to argue the president doesn't have the constitutional authority to do this based on where DC is. So it's not la. So you don't really have a separation of powers argument in some way. I was stunned by how aggressively Democrats have come out and said, well, crime's not really that bad. And to the credit of we played this clip earlier, even like Joe Scarborough on msnbc, quite a few left leaning media have been willing to say yeah, this is actually not a argument to make. Crime is awful. Are you surprised that typical Democrats, the Chuck Schumer's of the world, have really tried to fight Trump on this?
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Buck Sexton
I am. Well, if you're Chuck Schumer, you've got like, you know, 20 security agents surrounding you, so he doesn't have to worry. But, yeah, I think Scarborough kind of nails it. Like he says, I talked to my Democratic friends and, you know, they're worried. And, you know, we can get into a debate about the numbers and Trump says it's never been this bad and actually it's down from what it was last year. But who cares about the numbers? The District of Columbia, where I am now, is the fifth most dangerous in terms of violent crime in the country. That's an embarrassment. It's a disgrace. And I get the home rule argument, but D.C. has always had limited home rule powers, and if this can help at all. And now Trump wants to extend it beyond 30 days. Why? It makes the Democrats appear like they don't really care about crime, they only care about the politics of it. And I just think it's disgraceful.
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Clay Travis
What do you make of these allegations that Senator Adam Schiff approved leaking classified information to harm President Trompawi? I know you've been following this story.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, it's a little hard for me to judge because this is a whistleblower whose name we don't know and who first made these allegations several years ago. I do think there's a little bit of a risk for the president in that at the present moment, he seems to be going after, or having the Justice Department go after a whole lot of his political enemies. And he's not a fan of Shifty Schiff, as he calls him. But I think we have to take it seriously. And I think there does seem to be an effort to go after Letitia James and all these people who, who have basically tried to screw Trump over the years. I think if you do too much of that, and, you know, it's not like the Justice Department just says, oh, hey, let's go after Schiff. You know, Trump is pushing him. And the thing about Trump is, like, he's totally transparent about it. He says the quiet part out loud. He says, Barack Obama is guilty of treason. And you can agree, you can disagree. But again, coming back to the point that even if people don't like this president, don't agree with his policies, you gotta give him credit for being aggressive on crime, on Putin, and a whole.
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Howard Kurtz
Bunch of other things we're Talking to Howard Kurtz. You're in D.C. buck and I both have lived in D.C. i went to college there. Buck worked there. The Washington Post used to dominate the city of Washington in a way that very few newspapers have ever dominated any city's overall media scene. What, how would you assess the Post influence now? How do you analyze what Jeff Bezos is trying to do? How does the newspaper impact daily life in D.C. now compared to how it might have in past generations?
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Buck Sexton
That's a great question. Unfortunately, as an alumnus of the paper back when it was not quite so blatantly left leaning, almost all the stars have left and they're blaming Bezos. Now. I understand, you know, they don't like the idea that Bezos wants certain editorial stances on the editorial page. That is his prerogative as the owner. But as I've watched one after another after another, people leave. It is just not the paper it was. Plus, newspapers are not as influential overall. They were. You know, the Post still comes up with some good scoops, but it is kind of sad. I mean, I think, you know, radio shows and podcasts are now the new media that drive a lot of coverage. But you can't drive all your, you know, your best investigative reporters, your best people who cover these beats. You can't drive them all away and still claim to have an influential newspaper. It's a sad situation. And obviously the Washington Post is not the only place that faces this.
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Clay Travis
Can they rebuild? I mean, you look at a place like cnn, Howie, which, you know, I was a conservative contributor there a decade ago, and as I say to people, there were others, Kayleigh McEnany, when I was there was another, she's an alumna of, of cnn. But they would actually have conservatives on. I know they've started to have Scott Jennings because they've realized they can't and a few others. They can't just do this total echo chamber situation that they've had under Biden and Trump before that. But is it possible to fix these brands? Would it require a total overhaul? Do they just think that people will forget and they'll slowly but surely move more toward sanity? What, what do you think happens? Like, how can you advise a place as somebody who follows the media closely, how do you advise a place like CNN if you were asked to win back? I'm not saying to get the conservative audience. I'm just saying to be able to look people in the eye and say, we're actually a news network again.
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Buck Sexton
Well, sure, you can rebuild by going out and aggressively Hiring people and turning them loose. Same thing at the Washington Post. But you got to be willing to spend the money. Jeff Bezos, by my calculation, has a lot of money, so that's true.
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Howard Kurtz
We would.
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Clay Travis
Clay and I checked on that.
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Howard Kurtz
Jeff Bezos fact check is accurate. Yes, yes.
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Buck Sexton
But you got to be willing to spend it. And, you know, a lot of places are just worried about their profit margins these days. You know, the business model has kind of collapsed, especially for a place like CNN. Yeah, it's like 50 liberals and Scotch innings. At least they have Scott Jennings. But I think that a lot of these places just don't get it. Like, they bring in these new CEOs, and they just want to fatten the profit margins. Well, you got to invest money in journalism in order to have an audience. And if you don't do that, then you're just skating along. It just seems to me that the world has changed. Digital media has changed. Everybody's got all this stuff on their phones, and you gotta really rethink what you're doing because these places, cnn, I mean, MSNBC as an example, when Trump announced the crackdown on crime here in Washington, just completely went into opposition mode. No, he's not telling the truth. The numbers are wrong. Well, it doesn't really matter if you're being hijacked. I know people this has happened to. If people are afraid to walk the streets and then you start arguing about numbers, it's just, you know, it's like going into opposition mode. It's back into the resistance. And I think that's what's happening with a number of these media outlets.
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Howard Kurtz
We're talking to Howard Kurt's Media Buzz on Fox News every Sunday. Both Buck and I have been guests, really enjoy that you have the space to actually make arguments on the show to have real discussion.
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Buck Sexton
Than.
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Howard Kurtz
And I would suggest, Howie, that the discussion surrounding Trump and Putin meeting tomorrow will likely be just an absolute mess because of the past Russia collusion stories and frankly, much of the hoax surrounding it. How can the media, if people want to be informed, accurately cover anything happening with Putin and Trump? Given all the mess of past Putin Trump coverage, is there a way to actually do it in a trustworthy manner at all?
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Buck Sexton
Well, you guys should go do the show from Alaska. That's number one. Secondly.
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Clay Travis
Because Clay. Clay actually is desperate. I'm being serious. He's desperate to go to Alaska because I told him it's. If you like the outdoors and natural beauty, it's. It's. It's incredible. I want to go Once you see a grizzly bear in real life, you're like, oh, that's very interesting.
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Howard Kurtz
We've got the governor, by the way, a little bit of a tease here. Next hour of Alaska, who will be with us talking about the situation. But how do you cover it based on the failures of the media in the past?
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Buck Sexton
I think it has less to do with the media's insane over coverage of Russia, Russia, Russia than it does with what appears to be happening. I mean, a week ago, Trump was gung ho about this and there has been a dramatic, dramatic lowering of expectations where he says, well, we'll have the first meeting, but it's just a listening exercise. And if the first meeting goes well, we'll get to the second meeting. He's also got Zelensky not going along. So I think, you know, Trump loves this sort of face to face negotiation, big TV spectacle with world leaders. I did it with King Jon Hun, for example. But he's got to have something to show for it. And I think, you know, he'll come out and do the big joint press conference. And if it looks like he's at least started a process where there could be a ceasefire in this brutal and bloody war started by war criminal Vladimir Putin, then I think he'll get good coverage. And if it looks like it's just a small step and they haven't really done much, then people, people in the press will question whether it was worth inviting this dictator onto US Soil, no doubt.
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Clay Travis
Appreciate you being with us, Howie. Thanks for making the time and we'll see you soon on Media Buzz on Fox News.
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Buck Sexton
Great to be here. Thanks, guys.
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Clay Travis
Anytime. Yeah, the Alaska thing, do you, you don't fish, do you, Clay?
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Howard Kurtz
That's a good question.
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Clay Travis
So that's usually not a, that's usually not, no.
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Howard Kurtz
Well, I mean, I, I, I, I feel like you can't be a, like, dilettante fisherman, if that makes sense, because the people who do fish are very, very serious about it. And so if you say, well, yeah, I like to fish, then they're like, what lures do you use? Well, so I grew up, my grandfather and uncle fished all the time. It was their favorite thing. So I grew up going out with them and fishing a lot. I have tried to take my boys out when we go down to the Gulf coast to get out and fish. And we have a lot of lakes in my neighborhood that people, maybe ponds is more accurate to describe it, but they're stocked and you have to throw the fish back. But my kids have enjoyed Doing that. So occasionally. But I feel like fishing is one of those things that you can't say you did occasionally. You either live and die fishing or you never do it. But I do wish if I went to Alaska, I would fish. I mean, I went and learned how to. What's the, the fly fish. I learned how to fly fish with buddies. We went and did that. So if I went to Alaska, I think I would fish for salmon. To answer your question.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, I think it's. I think it's something you'd have to do. I've done it before and I tried a little flat look. I also think this spinning, I think it's called spinning reel. I'm a. I'm not even an advanced beginner. I'm a fishing beginner. I grew up fishing with my dad who is a fisherman and can do all the lures and the stuff and you know, he's been fishing all over the world, but he would just bring me and I never got good at it. So he's a. To your point, he's a fisherman. I'm somebody who's come along fishing with him many times. But spinning reel versus fly, fly to me is a whole other. You know, this is like, like the difference between bow hunting and rifle, you know, and using a rifle. It's a big, big step up in terms of the technique and the time. But yeah, it's just awesome to be out there and see I've done.
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Howard Kurtz
I think I told you this. I went deep sea fishing for shark. I have caught a. What, what is the sailfish? I've been the deep sea fishing for those big, you know, sailfish. You can't keep them.
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Clay Travis
But you catch swordfish.
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Carol Markowitz
Sure.
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Howard Kurtz
Yeah. And, and we took the boys out recently and did red snapper, which is down on the Gulf. There's tons of red snapping fishing that was really, really fun and we ate a lot of red snacks.
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Clay Travis
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Howard Kurtz
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. I Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We've got some talk backs. Let's see here. Steve is upset in Orange county because I keep saying the word according to him. Fabulous. Fire away. This is Stephen in Orange County, California. Hey, man, I'm just trying to help you out, but if you really want to stop being an unk, you need to quit trying to channel Patsy Stone. You say fabulous way too much, pal. Thanks for all you guys do. But Clay, get yourself in order. Is it. I don't even understand. Is that saying that it's an old man thing to say, fabulous or what word? I don't understand.
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Clay Travis
I didn't quite understand the dunk. It was definitely a dunk attack or dunk attempt, but I'm not sure that I really understood the dunk. I would say this.
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Buck Sexton
You're.
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Clay Travis
What was the word that somebody pointed out? Because that you definitely do. But that's a Tennessee thing. You say appreciate. You appreciate.
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Howard Kurtz
Yeah. Well, that's an accident.
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Clay Travis
That's a clay.
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Howard Kurtz
That's it.
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Clay Travis
That's an accident. I don't know about the word choice thing with fabulous. I do not, no doubt is a clay word choice. I don't know that fabulous is a clay word choice.
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Howard Kurtz
I haven't noticed that. I say fabulous very much, but I don't even understand the criticism was that that is an old man word or it's a young person's word. And I'm trying. I don't even understand. You got to be better at your criticism, Steve Job.
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Clay Travis
One of my favorite Clay Travis boys story is when they called you an unk. Because I got to learn that word and laugh at it at the same time. So that was good.
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Howard Kurtz
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Clay Travis
All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. Thanks for being with us everybody as always. Send us your talk back. Got a lot of talkbacks coming in on a whole range of topics and we will get to those shortly. I just want to note this was interesting. Melania Trump has sued Hunter Biden for a billion dollars. You see this Clay?
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Howard Kurtz
Yeah. We should ask Carol Markowitz about it because she is sitting about to talk with us.
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Clay Travis
That was exactly teeing up. Thank you. Carol Markowitz joins us now of the Clam Buck Podcast network and she got to hear my intro the Melania lawsuit. But, but you know what, Carol, first of all, thanks for being with us at the Carol Markowitz show.
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H
Thank you.
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Clay Travis
Were just traveling abroad as we saw public, as I saw on Instagram. So I don't think I'm giving away any secrets. What, where were you and what was your favorite place?
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H
I was in France. My middle son who's 12 years old had a week long history competition in Paris. He came home with a silver and bronze medal representing Florida. So very proud of him.
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Howard Kurtz
This was, by the way, didn't you quiz us on some of the things that I, this is like not, hey, what year was Louisiana purchased Style history. This is like super nerd history stuff.
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H
Right? It's really hard. Like I don't know anything at his competitions and his international ones like and his regional ones. I'll have some answers.
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Clay Travis
But yeah, I would like to say that if Clay and I teamed up we would be able to give him a run for his money. But I think I've already suffered maybe a little overconfidence lately on some things. So I might have to, might have to dial that back and say I.
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H
Think your boy heard about the thousand mile an hour tennis swing.
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Clay Travis
Well, no, no, no, no, no. Not a thousand.
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Buck Sexton
Definitely not.
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Clay Travis
That's definitely not going to happen. We're looking for 100. We're looking for 100. And you know, this is good. It's a little bit of like a middle aged guy. Reality check. I might have to do a little bit of lifting for a couple of weeks here. I, you know, I'm going to, I'm going to make this happen one way or another. This is like, this is like somebody who's, who's decided that they're going to dunk a, dunk a basketball once. Not that they're an NBA player, but they will get to a place where they can one time dunk a basketball. That's kind of how I view it.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
So all the people who are like, like pros serve 125, I'm like, I'm a middle aged radio host who plays tennis like twice a month. Everyone needs to calm down. But, but here we go with. Let's get back to Hunter Biden for one second here. This is, this is his response to the suit from Melania Trump. Play one.
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I
Ladies and gentlemen, the day of presidential litigation has arrived. It's lawsuit time. In my hand is a legal demand letter addressed to Mr. Hunter Biden from the first lady of states demanding a retraction of Channel 5's video called Hunter Biden Returns, in which Mr. Biden here makes some speculative comments about the relationship between Jeffrey Epstein, Melania Trump and Donald Trump. He didn't make these claims out of nowhere. They come from another journalist named Michael Wolfe, who is a biographer that actually spoke to Jeffrey Epstein. But now here we are, and I've got a billion dollar document in my hands because Mrs. Trump is seeking $1 billion in damages if we don't take the video down and if Hunter here doesn't issue a formal to Mrs. Trump. So now we're here maybe to give you the platform to apologize to the first lady for your statements that you made about her possible connection to Jeffrey Epstein.
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H
That.
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Howard Kurtz
That's not gonna happen.
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Clay Travis
Whoa. So it looks like, see, here's the thing. Is it tough guy Hunter, or is it this guy's got nothing to lose and I mean, quite literally, like, what cash does he have anyway? What do you make of this?
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H
Well, I think like three Hunter Biden paintings should cover that billion.
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Clay Travis
Good point.
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H
That's the price they used to go for when his dad was president. I don't know if that's still the rate of those paintings today. I love that Melania is doing this. This is a new era of Melania Trump where she just doesn't take anything from anyone. Love that she's going after him. Love that she's defending herself and her husband. It's really, I love to see it. I think it's great. And I just, it's a perfect way for her to say, you will not be spreading lies about me. You will not be telling tales about me. Don't think you can get away with it just because, you know, your dad was president.
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Howard Kurtz
We Trump took over the entire news cycle this week by deciding that he was going to lower the crime rate in D.C. and that it was unacceptable. I still remain stunned that Democrats have fallen for the crime is not actually that bad or this is totally unnecessary angle. Are you? I mean, because it seems so tone deaf. Even Joe Scarborough called him out today on MSNBC and said, Look, 91% of D.C. residents say crime is a big problem. I think trying to lower crime is not particularly political. I mean, it's crazy to me that they took the tack that they did.
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H
It is insane. And, you know, look, when I left New York three years ago, it was partially because crime was getting bad, and that was just a part of it. But the real thing was that nobody would admit it. Like when you said to your, you know, on a neighborhood chat, on a one of those boards online, hey, I'm getting worried, crime is getting bad. All the responses would be like, no, what are you talking about? Crime is not getting bad. You're being lied to by Fox News and et cetera. It was a very standard thing to deny that anything was happening. And that's what the media people are used to. They're used to just saying, we can't admit this is happening. If we admit this is happening, that means our philosophy of governing has failed. And that's exactly what it is, actually. It's the fact that when Democrats are in charge and they make crime basically legal, crime goes up and that's the way it goes. So I'm not at all surprised that that's where the Media went in 2020 when the riots were going on. Tons of media people would say, oh, I'm eating a burrito in this park and I don't see any rioters here. And that was what they went with as the argument for, don't worry, American people are too smart for that. At this point, even the mayor of D.C. is welcoming the help. So I think the media has found itself really out of step with the American public yet again.
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Clay Travis
Well, it reminded us, Carol Clinton, I talked about a couple days ago of the Abrego Garcia moment where everyone on CNN was like, can you believe that this alleged, alleged MS.13 gang member involved in human trafficking and one of the most violent and horrific gangs in America, who's definitely an illegal, was deported from this country. What kind of a country is this? Everyone's looking around like, that sounds like a great idea. Like, what are you talking about? They completely lit themselves on fire with that one.
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H
Yep. Yeah, that. That's right. They. They just keep thinking that it's 2020 and they can get away with saying this kind of thing and that the American people will just, you know, be too afraid to admit that there's a problem here with illegal immigration or any of it. And I just think Americans have had enough. They had five years of, you were not allowed to say what you're really thinking, and you had to monitor your language, and you weren't allowed to have certain opinions. And now they're free and there's a vibe shift and Donald Trump is president and they're not having it anymore.
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Howard Kurtz
Where do we go from here with the Friday meeting between Putin and. And Trump? We were just talking with, with Howard Kurtz, who does the media buzz. I actually think because of all the Russia collusion lies, it makes media coverage of any meeting between Trump and Putin almost impossible because they failed to analyze honestly this relationship for so long that even saying something honest today would feel. Boy who cries wolf. So how should the media at large approach this meeting face to face between Trump and Putin? And how do you think they will compared to what they should do?
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H
So I think that they should approach it as Donald Trump wants to help end bloodshed. He wants to help end a war that has been going on for a long time. And in a lot of ways, it has been at a stalemate where people are dying needlessly. How they will cover it is that Trump is Putin's stooge and he's in his pocket. And any kind of concession to Putin at all would be just the absolute worst thing that could ever happen. Now, I am not a fan of Russia. I was born in Russia. I have no love for the place. I am very anti Putin. So I say this as somebody who, if I could wave my magic wand, Ukraine wins today, and that's it. But that's not what we have. We have an ongoing war. People from both sides have been dying at astonishing rates for years now. So if Donald Trump can bring an end to this, that should be what the media would want. They should want a win for Donald Trump because that win means a win for the Russian people, for the Ukrainian people, and for America to be able to play that role on the world stage, you know, in 2025.
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Clay Travis
Carol, we haven't had a chance to talk to you about this yet on the show, but there's been far. There's been less coverage of it lately. But for a couple of weeks there in particular, there was this very Widespread and not just among the usual, like globalize the Intifada. Left wing people who hate everything Israel does is terrible. America's on puppet strings with Israel pulling all that stuff. Right? I'm not talking about those people. We can, we know where they are on this. The ones who are calling for a ceasefire on October 8th. You know, like that's, that's a separate thing. There were people on the right though who were also very loud about an intentional starvation campaign in Gaza. Intentional. Now Netanyahu has said this is of course, he's the, he's the Prime Minister of Israel, so we know what he's going to say. But he has come out very clearly and said, look, there's been some shortages. There's no campaign of starvation. If we wanted to, we could just kill everybody in Gaza in a day. And obviously we're trying to feed them. What, what are you, like, how did this get to the point where so many people thought that they were bringing a, a quote, genocide and a quote, famine to the, to the place where they thought that that was actually what was going on, including people on the right.
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H
I've been referring to those people as marks. And that's what they are, they're the marks for this kind of propaganda. They fell for a picture on the COVID of the New York Times of a starving child in Gaza who obviously, and you didn't need to know very much about the conflict to know that the New York Times was lying here, that obviously this child had some other issues. His overweight mother is holding him and they cut his healthy looking brother out of the picture. But you know, anytime you see a well fed mom and a starving baby, understand that you're being lied to. There's not a mom in the world who's not going to feed her child before herself. So I, you know, I was actually in France when that story broke it up. Set me so much because I saw kind of people that I think are good people, but like, I'll never ever look at them the same way again because they fell for the story. Like, how dumb do you need to be to believe the New York Times propaganda on this kind of stuff? Like, and the idea that Israel would starve the population of Gaza is so ridiculous. If you know anything about Israelis, Israelis care far more about the Palestinians than the Palestinian leadership cares about the Palestinians. So it's definitely not reality. Israel is continually sending aid, which frankly I don't think is the right thing to do in a lot of the cases in war to send aid to your enemy. But this is the situation that Israel finds itself in. They're expected to do insane things, to go above and beyond, to do things that no other country would do to get the most minimum support. And still all these countries around the world are recognizing some state of Palestine to reward the Palestinians in hamas who did October 7th. They win if that's the case. They win if they get a state at the end of this. It's really sad and I really was very just disheartened to see people on the right be the marks for this kind of propaganda. And I hope they don't continue to fall for things, but I'll never trust those people again.
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Howard Kurtz
We're talking to Carol Markowitz, New York Post. Last question for you, Carol. The I had a funny one because Denzel Washington went off on the went off on the Cowboys and I know your husband is a big Cowboys fan and your sons and you know they're never going to win anything. And I understand why that's tough.
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H
Hey, Titans fan. All right.
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Howard Kurtz
Yeah, well, we don't even attempt to try to defend the Titans at this point. But on a, a more interesting note, I thought you lived in New York City like Buck. For a long time, Buck and I have debated how people who are not Mom Donnie supporters and people who truly think that he would be an awful choice should handle this. And I, I took the tack of, hey, you know what? Sucks for New York City, but at least if he wins, that's a, that's for nationwide for the midterms next year. He is a face of socialism, face of communism. New York's going to suffer, but the rest of the country might be more likely to vote against Democrats. Are you in that camp or are you in the camp of we have to do everything we can to save Democrats from themselves?
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H
Oh, so tough, because I really am between it because I have families still in New York who all are trying to vote themselves to sanity but keep having the roadblock of this kind of thing come up. I think if he wins, he will be the poster child for Republicans going into the midterms saying, look what happened. Look at this guy. But because Trump has done such an incredible job on the border, New York City just closed its last migrant hotel because they simply don't have enough people coming in anymore. So he might be able to skate for a little while and make it seem like New York's really not doing that bad under his leadership. I'm a little worried about the strategy of using him in that case, because I really do think he can make it seem like New York is doing just fine. And look, all the hysterics were so wrong about how I was going to go.
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Clay Travis
But, Carol, can I just jump in? That's what de Blasio, inheriting a great situation from for the first, you know, three, four years of de Blasio was. What are you guys talking about? The city's super safe. Everything's great. And we kept saying, your policies are moronic. It's going to get bad. It's going to get bad. And then by the time it all got really bad, it was too late to just sort of turn the spigot off, and it was a mess.
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H
Exactly. So Mamdani has a very similar situation where the police chief, Tish is very respected among police officers. She's doing a great job. Murder rate is way down, so he might be able to carry that kind of wind, which is funny that Eric Adams can't run on it successfully. He brought murder rates down to a very low level in New York City. He should be proud of that. He should be running on that. But I don't even know where he is. So it's interesting because it's exactly that same situation as Blasio. He might be able to just make it appear that, look, nothing bad is going on under my leadership, but we know from the de Blasio years and that that simply can't last. It might be after the midterms, though, so I'd be wary of him being the mayor.
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Howard Kurtz
Carol, outstanding stuff, as always. Appreciate you coming on. Encourage everybody to sign up for the podcast. I think I'll be your guest next week. So there you go. That's something. Something to be fun.
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H
Thanks so much, Clay. Thanks.
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Howard Kurtz
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Ice Cube
The reviews and ratings are in and Ice Cube's Big three is the surprise hit of the summer. And to cap off the season, iHeart presents the Big Three basketball playoffs this Sunday at 3pm Eastern. The remaining four teams battle it out for the right to make the Big three championship in the most physical, fierce and competitive basketball league in the world. The action starts with the Big 3 Monster Energy Energy Celebrity Game where your favorite stars compete in big three three on three basketball. Then the first of two semifinal games features Dwight Howard and the LA Riot taking on Montrez Harrell and Dr. J's first place Chicago triplets. The finale will see popular Miami 305 with stars MVP Michael Beasley and Lance Will make youe Dan Stevenson take on Nancy Lieberman's Dallas Power, who finished the season winning five straight weeks to capture second place. Can Glen Rice, Greg Monroe and Paul Millsap stop Miami's physical assault? Or will Miami and Beasley put an end to Dallas winning ways? Who will make it to the big three championship? This no holds barred action starts Sunday at 3pm Eastern, 12 Pacific only on CBS.
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Mary Kathryn Hamm
Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Hamm.
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Unknown Speaker
And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time.
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Mary Kathryn Hamm
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
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Unknown Speaker
That's why we started normally a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
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Mary Kathryn Hamm
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling and with a healthy dose of humor.
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Unknown Speaker
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
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Mary Kathryn Hamm
So if you're into common sense, sanity and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of normally every Tuesday.
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Unknown Speaker
And Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen.
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Howard Kurtz
Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck Sexton show all right, final hour of the show coming up here in just a bit. We're gonna have some fun with some of your talkbacks. Orlando is reacting. The guy called in trying to dunk on me for using the word fabulous too often. He's trying to analyze it too, by the way Trump is talking live about the 90th anniversary of Social Security in the Oval Office. We will bring you some of those cuts when we come back in the next hour. But here is Pia from Orlando, Florida. What you got?
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H
Hi guys. I just found it interesting that some guy was trying to dunk on clay for apparently saying fabulous and he said that he sounded like Patsy Stoned. But last time I checked, the only people who know who Patsy Stone is are people who watch Absolutely Fabulous or Ab Fab, which are mostly women and gay men.
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Howard Kurtz
Wow, I didn't see that coming. The way she just like subtly sliced him to death there at the end with that final sentence. Pia just said basically, hey, that guy who was making fun of you is either gay or a woman. And wow, just out of nowhere. Evisceration when we come back. Speaking of evisceration, tennis pros are weighing in on Buck Serve. Andy Roddick, John Isner like the tennis pros, not just like American tennis players will tell you what they said.
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Ice Cube
Iheart presents the Big three Playoffs this Sunday. The remaining four teams battle to make the championship in the most physical, fierce and competitive basketball league in the world. The action starts with the Big three Monster Energy celebrity game. Then Dwight Howard and his Ellie Riot take on Montrez Harrell and Dr. J Chicago triplets. The finale will see popular Miami 305 with stars MVP Michael B. Paisley and Lance Stevenson take on Nancy Lieberman's Dallas Power who will make it to the Big Three championship. The no holds barred action starts Sunday at 3pm Eastern, 12 Pacific only on CBS.
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Carol Markowitz
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Mary Kathryn Hamm
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